Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-08 Thread Joan Picanyol i Puig
* Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20031102 16:24]:
 * Joan Picanyol i Puig:
 
   It works for me, the accentuated chars show up in xterm...
  It doesn't for  me, nor in console or under  X. I'm pasting underneath
  what I see from the console (excerpt from the test file):
 3) Run the command LC_CTYPE=ca_ES.ISO8859-15 more mail.test
Ok, es_ES works but ca_ES doesn't. I'm on RELENG_4_9, what are you running?
I believe misc/45874 has not been MFC'ed.

I have a _big_ problem now. I upgraded to samba-3.0.0 which defaults to
using UTF-8 instead of doing charset conversion by itself. User profiles
stored in the server don't work because 8-bit characters are not
translated properly. I'm downloading the full cvs repo now in order to
try to make a patch, will this work?

(17:22:18 /usr/src/share) 0 $ cvs diff -r RELENG_4_9 -r RELENG_5_1
colldef/ mklocale/ monetdef/ msgdef/ numericdef/ syscons/ timedef/
zoneinfo/

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Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Joan Picanyol i Puig:

  It works for me, the accentuated chars show up in xterm...

 It doesn't for  me, nor in console or under  X. I'm pasting underneath
 what I see from the console (excerpt from the test file):

What I suggest is:

1) Restore login.conf and shell profile as it was
2) Test in X11 as it is more reliable than the console (no need to set
   fonts)
3) Run the command LC_CTYPE=ca_ES.ISO8859-15 more mail.test

Once you get the desired result, modify your environment or login class
accordingly.

I just  read Using Localization[1] again  in the handbook, but  I didn't
discover anything  obvious.  The  only case where  I can  reproduce your
result is:

LC_CTYPE=us-ascii more mail.test.

Best regards,
-- 
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http://caraldi.com/jbq/

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html
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Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Joan Picanyol:

 I can't  see accents in mutt's  internal pager (even though  I can see
 them in  vim). I've read  iconv(), terminfo() and  the Internalization
 section in the Handbook among others, but I'm out of ideas.

* In console or in X11?
* If X11, what terminal emulator do you use?
* What shell do you use?
* What language and especially encoding has your mail?

I suggest  to set LC_CTYPE=es_ES.ISO8859-15  in your shell's  init file,
and don't  forget to  export that variable  (export with  [ba]sh, setenv
with [t]csh).

Also, please test with  more or less, not mutt, so it  will be easier to
find the solution.  Make a test  file with special characters not in the
7-bit range, and view it.

Cheers,
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Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-01 Thread Joan Picanyol i Puig
[please honour MFT, not subscribed]

* Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20031101 12:12]:
 * In console or in X11?
Both

 * If X11, what terminal emulator do you use?
xterm

 * What shell do you use?
bash

 * What language and especially encoding has your mail?
(15:23:01 ~/tmp) 0 $ grep ontent mail.test 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

 I suggest  to set LC_CTYPE=es_ES.ISO8859-15  in your shell's  init file,
 and don't  forget to  export that variable  (export with  [ba]sh, setenv
 with [t]csh).
I have these lines in /etc/login.conf

:setenv=LC_CTYPE=ISO8859-15,LANG=ca_ES.ISO8859-15: \
:lang=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15:\
:charset=ISO8859-15:\

 Also, please test with  more or less, not mutt, so it  will be easier to
 find the solution.  Make a test  file with special characters not in the
 7-bit range, and view it.
I'm attaching my test file (an actual message). Both under xterm and
console the results are the sime: cat works fine but more and less do
not.

Where's the culprit?

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Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Joan Picanyol i Puig:

  I  suggest to  set  LC_CTYPE=es_ES.ISO8859-15 in  your shell's  init
  file, and don't forget to  export that variable (export with [ba]sh,
  setenv with [t]csh).

 I have these lines in /etc/login.conf
 
 :setenv=LC_CTYPE=ISO8859-15,LANG=ca_ES.ISO8859-15: \
 :lang=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15:\
 :charset=ISO8859-15:\

LC_CTYPE is wrong.

  Also, please test with more or less,  not mutt, so it will be easier
  to find the solution.  Make a  test file with special characters not
  in the 7-bit range, and view it.

 I'm attaching my  test file (an actual message). Both  under xterm and
 console the results are the sime: cat  works fine but more and less do
 not.

Where is the attachment?

Cheers,
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Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-01 Thread Joan Picanyol i Puig
[I expect mutt to properly set MFT, if it didn't please Cc: me]

* Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20031101 15:53]:
 * Joan Picanyol i Puig:
  I have these lines in /etc/login.conf
  
  :setenv=LC_CTYPE=ISO8859-15,LANG=ca_ES.ISO8859-15: \
  :lang=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15:\
  :charset=ISO8859-15:\
 LC_CTYPE is wrong.
Yep, I changed it to both ca_ES.ISO8859-15 and es_ES.ISO8859-15 and made no difference.

   Also, please test with more or less,  not mutt, so it will be easier
   to find the solution.  Make a  test file with special characters not
   in the 7-bit range, and view it.
  I'm attaching my  test file (an actual message). Both  under xterm and
  console the results are the sime: cat  works fine but more and less do
  not.
 Where is the attachment?
Oops, now it's there

tks
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Eco, eco,eco,  co,  co..co...co...co...o.o.o.o oo.oo.oo.
Hi ha algú a l'altre banda o estic al 'planeta dels simis'? sol amb el 
floquet, i la seva aixella tuberculosa...
Un dia d'aquests de segur que em trobaré amb el que quedà de la sagrada 
familía; (a la terra prohibida de la Catagònia, vora l'oceà; diuen que s'hi 
han vist les restes d' un monument mega-elíptic de singular bellesa contruit 
per éssers de civilitzacions passades); deu ser això...despres d'un llarg 
letargi a través de l'espai inter-celest-i-tal he retornat al mateix indret 
de procedencia, convertit en paisatge lunar i desolador si no fos per 
una crónica, una espurna d'esperaça que arribà ahir signada pen PICA, 
(Persona Identificada Com Androide potser) i jo pregunto ¿ com recollons 
s'entra de nou a la virtualitat compartida???, eu canviat el correu o es que 
no s'envien més bits d'informaciò.
Les úniques dades de que disposo són les d'un desalentador 5-3, a_viram si 
ens posem les ales colla de garseso haurem de venir a repartir llenya... 
qui la busca la troba, la brega la verga i el que faci falta.

Ja ha començat la NBA, el master of the univers in the stars? (MBA  'Marc  
Bernat Administrators' altrement dit en referencia al draft d'aquesta 
pretemporada o ' Millor que a Buenos Aires' pels escèptics...)
Doncs bè, per BsAs tot segueix igual de diferent, uns dies plou i els altres 
fa sol i les bruixes patinen i el colectivo treu verí, el fútbol mou les 
muntanyes i Maradona escombra tota la neu caiguda durant el llarg hivern.
Demà es 'feriado nacional', coincideix amb l'aniversari de l'astre, el mago 
Diego,( no sè qui va ser primer si l'astre o el feriado) la meva teorìa es 
que van convencer a en Diego perque canvies la seva partida de naixement per 
tal de donbar-li un sentit al dia Festiu...
Es pronostica una pujada de temperatures, necesaria per restablir 
l'equilibri global, a uns els toca patir el fred i als altres gaudir del 
calor i els rodamons com jo compartir i jugar amb la bola del mòn, ara cap 
aqui ara cap allì i anar amoldant el clima a les necesitats corporees...
Presisament demà arriben tambè els meus pares, disposats a escombrar-se mig 
continent, el punt d'inici ,com no, Bs As, com si tinguessim telepatia, 
venen al mateix lloc on jo estic, el que no saben és que aixo es immens, i 
que poden trigar dos mesos en trobar-me...

La nova més significativa és que l'1 de novembre em mudo a un piset junt amb 
dos alemanys i dos argentins al bell mig del barri de la BOCA, lluny dels 
turistes i de les influencies europees. Es el primer barri que tinguè la 
ciutat, construit per italians, encara preserva el color i l'activitat 
frenetica de carrer, pero avui en dia te fama de ser la zona mès perillosa 
de la ciutat, ja veurem... o ja veuran...Per que us feu una idea, allì es on 
ve naixer i es va criar en Riquelme, (a on es va deprimir mès ben dit), i la 
Bombonera està a dos cuadres i tres estables del piset, (potser ens farem 
socis de Boca).
Tot i així el caseta és molt acollidora, té un patì compartit amb tres 
altres cases, 

Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Joan Picanyol i Puig:
   
 
 * Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20031101 15:53]:

  * Joan Picanyol i Puig:
 
   I have these lines in /etc/login.conf
  
   :setenv=LC_CTYPE=ISO8859-15,LANG=ca_ES.ISO8859-15: \
   :lang=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15:\
   :charset=ISO8859-15:\
 
  LC_CTYPE is wrong.

 Yep, I  changed it to  both ca_ES.ISO8859-15 and  es_ES.ISO8859-15 and
 made no difference.
   
 
Try:
   
 
LC_CTYPE=ca_ES.ISO8859-15 more mail.test
   
 
It works  for me, the  accentuated chars show  up in xterm...  could you
dump the result  of « env »  to check your settings?  BTW  you can check
whether a given locale is available by looking at /usr/share/locale.

Also, when modifying login.conf, don't forget to logout completely from
X *and* console.
   
 
Cheers,
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Re: login.conf and accents weirdness

2003-11-01 Thread Joan Picanyol i Puig
* Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20031101 19:09]:
 * Joan Picanyol i Puig:
  * Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20031101 15:53]:
 
   * Joan Picanyol i Puig:
I have these lines in /etc/login.conf
   
:setenv=LC_CTYPE=ISO8859-15,LANG=ca_ES.ISO8859-15: \
:lang=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15:\
:charset=ISO8859-15:\
   LC_CTYPE is wrong.
  Yep, I  changed it to  both ca_ES.ISO8859-15 and  es_ES.ISO8859-15 and
  made no difference.
 Try:
  

 LC_CTYPE=ca_ES.ISO8859-15 more mail.test
  

 It works  for me, the  accentuated chars show  up in xterm...
It doesn't for me, nor in console or under X. I'm pasting underneath
what I see from the console (excerpt from the test file):

Eco, eco,eco,  co,  co..co...co...co...o.o.o.o oo.oo.oo.
Hi ha algFA a l'altre banda o estic al 'planeta dels simis'? sol amb
el
floquet, i la seva aixella tuberculosa...
Un dia d'aquests de segur que em trobarE9 amb el que quedE0 de la
sagrada
familEDa; (a la terra prohibida de la CatagF2nia, vora l'oceE0;
diuen que
s'hi

I wonder how you see it...

 could you dump the result  of « env »  to check your settings?
attached

 BTW  you can check whether a given locale is available by looking at
 /usr/share/locale.
(19:47:33 ~) 0 $ ls /usr/share/locale/ca_ES.ISO*
/usr/share/locale/ca_ES.ISO8859-1:
LC_COLLATE  LC_MONETARY LC_NUMERIC  LC_TIME
/usr/share/locale/ca_ES.ISO8859-15:
LC_COLLATE  LC_MONETARY LC_TIME
/usr/share/locale/ca_ES.ISO_8859-1:
LC_COLLATE  LC_MONETARY LC_NUMERIC  LC_TIME
/usr/share/locale/ca_ES.ISO_8859-15:
LC_COLLATE  LC_MONETARY LC_TIME

Beware, these are local modifications and might work. However, replacing
ca for es doesn't work either (and es_ES comes with the system)

 Also, when modifying login.conf, don't forget to logout completely
 from X *and* console.
I assume setting variables shoud work (from my reading of login.conf,
all it does in this context is set up the environment...)

tks
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