Re: BitTorrent configuration in FreeBSD-6.2 -for Large file downloads uploads

2007-10-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 03:15:28AM -0500, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:

 There are quite a few PHP trackers around, though the one I use is
 Torrent Trader Lite. (http://www.torrenttrader.com/) This is a
 lightweight tracker that stores all its information in flatfiles, so no
 rdbms is necessary. This should be placed on a publicly accessible URL,
 so that the people who wish to download via bittorrent can use it.

Or http://sourceforge.net/projects/torrenttrader .

I had a quick look at Torrent Trader Lite after your suggestion, and
while it doesn't appear to depend on MySQL, it's still far from
lightweight!  It really requires you to build the web site around the
tracker rather than adding a small tracker to a pre-existing site.

I also had to do a lot of work to get it working under PHP5.  I fixed
some things by replacing ? with ?php but there were still some
problems with rendering of pages.  I don't know if the tracker part of
it actually worked.

To the OP, have you looked at BNBT in /usr/ports/net-p2p/bnbt ?  It
might be more along the lines of what you want.  There doesn't seem to
be much documentation supplied with the port though.  Consequently I
don't have it working yet.  There does seem to be some useful info here
though:

http://bnbteasytracker.sourceforge.net/documentation.php

Regards
Andrew
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Re: BitTorrent configuration in FreeBSD-6.2 -for Large file downloads uploads

2007-10-14 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
andrew clarke wrote:
 I had a quick look at Torrent Trader Lite after your suggestion, and
 while it doesn't appear to depend on MySQL, it's still far from
 lightweight!  It really requires you to build the web site around the
 tracker rather than adding a small tracker to a pre-existing site.

For theming and integration, I suppose. I just wanted something I could
use to share a few torrents with friends, though, so I just untarred it
into a subdirectory, set permissions, and let it do it's thing.

 I also had to do a lot of work to get it working under PHP5.  I fixed
 some things by replacing ? with ?php but there were still some
 problems with rendering of pages.  I don't know if the tracker part of
 it actually worked.

I suppose it is possible I did some patchwork to get it running, but it
was about half a year ago already, so I can't remember. Thanks for the
information, though.

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Re: BitTorrent configuration in FreeBSD-6.2 -for Large file downloads uploads

2007-10-12 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
dhaneshk k wrote:
 But how I can use Bittorrent to serve these big files to the remote
 users of my website (so that I can save a lot of bandwidth of  my network 
 connection )  
 
 The Bittorent is installed in this box was(  py24-BitTorrent-4.20.2_1,1 )  . 
 I have the ISO images , but how can I put these ISO's to be served via  
 Bittorrent  how others can accesss these iso's from my webserver through 
 bittorrent 

To serve torrents, you need a tracker, and you need clients to seed.
Fortunately, your server can work as both.

On the subject of trackers:

There are quite a few PHP trackers around, though the one I use is
Torrent Trader Lite. (http://www.torrenttrader.com/) This is a
lightweight tracker that stores all its information in flatfiles, so no
rdbms is necessary. This should be placed on a publicly accessible URL,
so that the people who wish to download via bittorrent can use it.

You may also consider creating and uploading torrents to a popular
public tracker, such as The Pirate Bay, to boost exposure and reduce the
amount of software you must deal with. I would suggest avoiding
registration-required trackers if you're hoping for impulse downloads,
though, as mandatory registration can be a bit of a turnoff for a lot of
people.

On the subject of clients:

There are a myriad of bittorrent clients in existence, but most of them
require some form of graphical interface. You've found one of the best
for console downloading, but it still can't be run in the background
(ignoring for the moment running things in screen). The software I use
for downloading torrents is TorrentFlux (http://www.torrentflux.com/).
It is a PHP webapp frontend to BitTornado (a fork of BitTorrent)
designed to run the torrents in the background, while providing a pretty
interface for controlling them. As this will act as your seed, this
should be kept private and password-protected.

Best of all, both of these solutions can be run through your current
webserver infrastructure, via virtual hosts or simple subdirectories.

After getting your tracker and client set up, you can use TorrentFlux to
create a .torrent file for your chosen ISO or group of ISOs, specify
your tracker's announce URL, register the .torrent file with your
tracker (if necessary) and start seeding, and your bittorrent-savvy
visitors can torrent to their heart's content.

A big notice, though: BitTorrent won't initially save bandwidth,
especially if your server is the only seeder, and may actually be much
slower if the files aren't very popular, as there won't be as many other
visitors to help distribute chunks of the files.

I hope this helps!

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Re: bittorrent consuming 100% cpu

2006-10-17 Thread Andy Greenwood

I'd recommend transmission. You can get the source from
http://transmission.m0k.org/. You can configure it for console use
with

./configure --disable-gtk  gmake. It needs GNU make, BSD make won't
work. Uses very little resources as it's written in C, so your python
port won't matter.

On 10/16/06, Matthew Rench [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Due to the recent security advisor, I upgraded my python port. Foolishly,
I managed to upgrade from version 2.4 to 2.5, which forced me to also upgrade
my bittorrent port (from version 3.x to 4.20.2_1,1). Unfortunately, I now
find that the bittorrent console app (/usr/local/bin/bittorrent-console)
now consumes 100% of my CPU, according to top. I am quite sure that even
5-10 instances of the previous version did not together use this much CPU.

So, I ktrace'd a running copy of bittorrent, and found the following,
repeated more or less continually:

493 python   1161045605.243985 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x5,0xe)
493 python   1161045605.272699 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.272750 CALL  gettimeofday(0x281dd788,0)
493 python   1161045605.272783 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.273029 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0)
493 python   1161045605.273097 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.273865 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfdf34,0)
493 python   1161045605.273955 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.274837 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfe014,0)
493 python   1161045605.274920 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.275304 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfdd14,0)
493 python   1161045605.275375 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.276452 CALL  gettimeofday(0xbfbfec94,0)
493 python   1161045605.276543 RET   gettimeofday 0
493 python   1161045605.276758 CALL  poll(0x87ede20,0x3,0)
493 python   1161045605.276845 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.276909 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x4,0)
493 python   1161045605.276956 RET   poll 0
493 python   1161045605.276998 CALL  poll(0x8138000,0x5,0x14)
493 python   1161045605.302720 RET   poll 0

Since I don't know much about python, I'm at a loss to explain this. Has
anyone else had similar issues with newer versions of bittorrent? Is there
a different client I should be using?

mdr
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Re: Bittorrent link for 6.1 does not work

2006-05-12 Thread Siju George

On 5/12/06, Scott Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 05:48:30PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
 Hi,

 I am not subscribed to the list.

 The Bittorrent Link on

 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/announce.html

 doesnot seem to work :-(

Working fine here (I've downloaded 6.1 over BT twice now).

How is it not working for you?



Its working now Scott :-)

Sorry for the trouble.

Kind Regards

Siju
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Re: Bittorrent link for 6.1 does not work

2006-05-12 Thread Scott Mitchell
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 05:48:30PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am not subscribed to the list.
 
 The Bittorrent Link on
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/announce.html
 
 doesnot seem to work :-(

Working fine here (I've downloaded 6.1 over BT twice now).

How is it not working for you?

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Re: bittorrent client

2005-05-16 Thread RW
On Saturday 14 May 2005 00:37, Paulo Roberto wrote:
 Hello,

 Any suggestions? I have been using ctorrent, but I am getting a lot of

I use Azureus, it's full of features, but it uses a lot  resources. Bittorrent 
is probably the next best port, and is much lighter.

 files it shows that it has downloaded 100%, but if I start it again (to
 seed) it was fully completed.

I don't see what you are getting at here, aren't 100% and fully the same 
thing.
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Re: bittorrent client

2005-05-16 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
Paulo Roberto wrote:
Hello,
Any suggestions? I have been using ctorrent, but I am getting a lot of
files it shows that it has downloaded 100%, but if I start it again (to
seed) it was fully completed.
thanks,
Paulo
 

Do not use ctorrent it's unmaintained and buggy. It should probably be 
removed from the ports.

ports/net/rtorrent
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Re: bittorrent client

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Shadwick
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On Fri, 13 May 2005, Paulo Roberto wrote:
Hello,
Any suggestions? I have been using ctorrent, but I am getting a lot of
files it shows that it has downloaded 100%, but if I start it again (to
seed) it was fully completed.
thanks,
Paulo
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Re: bittorrent client

2005-05-13 Thread pete wright
On 5/13/05, Paulo Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Any suggestions? I have been using ctorrent, but I am getting a lot of
 files it shows that it has downloaded 100%, but if I start it again (to
 seed) it was fully completed.
 

why not use bram's own bittorrent code, it's written in python and is
in the port's tree to boot:

/usr/ports/net/py-bittorrent





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Re: bittorrent corruption problems

2005-03-06 Thread Bevan Coleman
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:26:11 +, Jason Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been getting this error:
 
 data corrupted on disk - maybe you have two copies running?
 
 I have looked on the net and the only causes I can see are bad ram and
 bad software.  I noticed this after I started using the gui, never
 noticed it on the command line.  I used to never get this.  It has


I had this a while back on one of my Linux boxes. Turned out to be bad ram.

Memtest86+ should do the trick, just leave it testing over night and
see what it says in the morning.



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Re: bittorrent corruption problems

2005-03-06 Thread Jason Henson
On 03/06/05 22:36:38, Bevan Coleman wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:26:11 +, Jason Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I have been getting this error:

 data corrupted on disk - maybe you have two copies running?

 I have looked on the net and the only causes I can see are bad ram
and
 bad software.  I noticed this after I started using the gui, never
 noticed it on the command line.  I used to never get this.  It has
I had this a while back on one of my Linux boxes. Turned out to be  
bad
ram.

Memtest86+ should do the trick, just leave it testing over night and
see what it says in the morning.

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Re: Bittorrent secure?

2005-01-27 Thread gabriel
You want true security, DONT USE IT! *hides behind the fridge*


On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:58:06 -0500, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hanspeter Roth wrote:
On Jan 25 at 14:48, Chuck Swiger spoke:
  You need to have an external source of information which specifies a
  checksum or MD5 hash to confirm that the file has not been tampered with.
 
  That to say I should download CHECKSUM.MD5 from one of the public
  FTP-servers by hand and do the MD5 checks myself, right?
 
 Yes indeed, or use the files in a context like the ports tree, which does this
 sort of checking for you.
 
  If you trust the Torrent tracker file, then BitTorrent has this part
  built-in.  Otherwise, you would use something like the distinfo files in
  /usr/ports to help confirm the validity of files.
 
  BitTorrent doesn't get some public checksums from some public
  servers transparently, does it?
 
 Each file distributed by BitTorrent has a tracker and a seed .torrent which
 describes the checksums of the file (and it's parts), and manages the list of
 hosts offering the file.
 
  On the other hand, Torrent doesn't do any worse than FTP or HTTP.
 
  The FTP-servers should be more or less official and should contain
  more or less uncompromised data.
 
 A lot of people thought that about ftp.gnu.org, or ftp.sendmail.org, or other
 well-known FTP sources which have been compromised.
 
  Hosts that offer BitTorrent probably are less official.
 
 True, but you are not relying on them to confirm the downloaded data is
 correct, you are relying on the seed host and it's .torrent file.
 
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Re: Bittorrent secure?

2005-01-27 Thread Hanspeter Roth
  On Jan 25 at 16:58, Chuck Swiger spoke:

 Hanspeter Roth wrote:
   On Jan 25 at 14:48, Chuck Swiger spoke:
 You need to have an external source of information which specifies a 
 checksum or MD5 hash to confirm that the file has not been tampered with. 
 
 That to say I should download CHECKSUM.MD5 from one of the public
 FTP-servers by hand and do the MD5 checks myself, right?
 
 Yes indeed, or use the files in a context like the ports tree, which does 
 this sort of checking for you.

Ok, I forgot to mention that I thought of the ISO images of
4.11-RELEASE (or ISO images of future releases).
This has probably noting to do with the ports tree.
So the CHECKSUM.MD5 file from an FTP-server is still required.

-Hanspeter
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Re: Bittorrent secure?

2005-01-25 Thread cpghost
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:22:53PM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
 Hello,
 
 how secure is Bittorrent?

Do you mean the Bittorrent *protocol*, or a specific
*implementation* thereof? And what do you mean with 'secure'?

 How can one know how trustworthy the stuff
 downloaded from other Bittorrent fellows is?

From which torrent? :-)

You get what you download. This is *normally* that, what the
seeders offered. You may want to checksum (md5, sha1, ...)
the files you get, comparing the digest strings with the
signatures published on trustworthy sites (e.g. if you
download an ISO image or so). All this is independent of
the transport protocol that you used (ftp, bittorent, ...).

The bittorrent protocol uses TCP to transmit the chunks,
therefore ensuring that the chunks are not *intentionally*
corrupted along the way. Moreover, bittorrent checksums
the chunks internally, as an added measure of security.
But you are still encouraged to checksum the complete
file(s) anyway.

 -Hanspeter

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Re: Bittorrent secure?

2005-01-25 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:22:53 +0100
Hanspeter Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how secure is Bittorrent? How can one know how trustworthy the stuff
 downloaded from other Bittorrent fellows is?

This a bit OT for a FreeBSD list, but I'll answer it anyway. A torrent
file contains info about the tracker and hashes for each part of the
file(s). So, quick answer, no, you cannot join a tracker and inject
bogus data because the hash check will fail. If you can trust the person
who created the torrent and initially seeds the file you're good to go.

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Re: Bittorrent secure?

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hanspeter Roth wrote:
how secure is Bittorrent?
It's not secure.
How can one know how trustworthy the stuff
downloaded from other Bittorrent fellows is?
You need to have an external source of information which specifies a checksum 
or MD5 hash to confirm that the file has not been tampered with.  If you trust 
the Torrent tracker file, then BitTorrent has this part built-in.  Otherwise, 
you would use something like the distinfo files in /usr/ports to help confirm 
the validity of files.

On the other hand, Torrent doesn't do any worse than FTP or HTTP.
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Re: Bittorrent secure?

2005-01-25 Thread Hanspeter Roth
  On Jan 25 at 14:48, Chuck Swiger spoke:

 Hanspeter Roth wrote:
 how secure is Bittorrent?
 
 It's not secure.
 
 How can one know how trustworthy the stuff
 downloaded from other Bittorrent fellows is?
 
 You need to have an external source of information which specifies a 
 checksum or MD5 hash to confirm that the file has not been tampered with.  

That to say I should download CHECKSUM.MD5 from one of the public
FTP-servers by hand and do the MD5 checks myself, right?

 If you trust the Torrent tracker file, then BitTorrent has this part 
 built-in.  Otherwise, you would use something like the distinfo files in 
 /usr/ports to help confirm the validity of files.

BitTorrent doesn't get some public checksums from some public
servers transparently, does it?

 On the other hand, Torrent doesn't do any worse than FTP or HTTP.

The FTP-servers should be more or less official and should contain
more or less uncompromised data.
Hosts that offer BitTorrent probably are less official.

-Hanspeter
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Re: Bittorrent secure?

2005-01-25 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hanspeter Roth wrote:
  On Jan 25 at 14:48, Chuck Swiger spoke:
You need to have an external source of information which specifies a 
checksum or MD5 hash to confirm that the file has not been tampered with.  
That to say I should download CHECKSUM.MD5 from one of the public
FTP-servers by hand and do the MD5 checks myself, right?
Yes indeed, or use the files in a context like the ports tree, which does this 
sort of checking for you.

If you trust the Torrent tracker file, then BitTorrent has this part 
built-in.  Otherwise, you would use something like the distinfo files in 
/usr/ports to help confirm the validity of files.
BitTorrent doesn't get some public checksums from some public
servers transparently, does it?
Each file distributed by BitTorrent has a tracker and a seed .torrent which 
describes the checksums of the file (and it's parts), and manages the list of 
hosts offering the file.

On the other hand, Torrent doesn't do any worse than FTP or HTTP.
 
The FTP-servers should be more or less official and should contain
more or less uncompromised data.
A lot of people thought that about ftp.gnu.org, or ftp.sendmail.org, or other 
well-known FTP sources which have been compromised.

Hosts that offer BitTorrent probably are less official.
True, but you are not relying on them to confirm the downloaded data is 
correct, you are relying on the seed host and it's .torrent file.

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-09 Thread TM4526
In a message dated 11/9/04 1:10:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
don't believe in democracy but in this case it could come handy. 
Somebody could propose like: let's get this fuck off the list and we'd 
say ... well ... I say YES!

wow, i think both name-calling and using 4 letter words is against the 
charter.
Lets see if they only practice selective enforcement.
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-09 Thread Quinn Ellis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wow, i think both name-calling and using 4 letter words is against the 
charter.
Lets see if they only practice selective enforcement.

Is it too late to say it was just a passing curiosity and that if you 
boys can't play nice, then don't play at all?!
Quinn
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-09 Thread David Jenkins
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:54:26 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wow, i think both name-calling and using 4 letter words is against the
 charter.
 Lets see if they only practice selective enforcement.

Can someone please ban him (her?).

They never seem to have anything constructive to say...
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread TM4526
In a message dated 11/8/04 2:22:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Lets do the math...
 you'll note that http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ at this moment 
 says there's been 1978 completed downloads.
 Lets pick an arbitrary average size for each file downloaded: 388MB

 388 * 1978 = 767.5GB

 11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:30PM: Now
 11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00PM: Official availability of 5.3
 
 27.5 Hours

 767.5 / 27.5 = 27.9GB/h / 60 = 465MB/m / 60 = 7.75MB/s
Your math doesnt include the tremendous overhead associated with the 
protocol

Of course anyone with an ISP that has a bandwidth management device,  
bittorrent (a cancerous protocol which wastes others bandwdith in the process 
of 
possibly saving yours) will likely either not work well or be very slow.

No reputable organization would promote bittorrant for getting a release.
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Matthias Buelow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course anyone with an ISP that has a bandwidth management device,  
bittorrent (a cancerous protocol which wastes others bandwdith in the process of 
possibly saving yours) will likely either not work well or be very slow.

No reputable organization would promote bittorrant for getting a release.
Surely you can elaborate?  Bittorrent was explicitly designed for the 
very purpose it has been used with the FreeBSD ISOs (and other 
organizations are using it aswell, for example RedHat for Fedora Core, 
and it works very well.)

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 08:05:59AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No reputable organization would promote bittorrant for getting a release.

This was the last straw for me.

*PLONK*

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread TM4526
Its become  widely used for sharing in the same way as Kazaa and
other point to point as they're called protocols. Many ISPs block it,
or at least substantially slow it down.
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Matthias Buelow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its become  widely used for sharing in the same way as Kazaa and
other point to point as they're called protocols. Many ISPs block it,
or at least substantially slow it down.
Well.  Of course it can be abused for w4r3z aswell as used for legal 
purposes.  If my ISP would block it or noticably slow it down, I would 
consider changing to a different ISP.  And I think there's still a 
difference in quality compared to things like edonkey, which are used 
exclusively for illegal filesharing.

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread TM4526
In a message dated 11/8/04 11:33:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Its become  widely used for sharing in the same way as Kazaa and
 other point to point as they're called protocols. Many ISPs block it,
 or at least substantially slow it down.

Well.  Of course it can be abused for w4r3z aswell as used for legal 
purposes.  If my ISP would block it or noticably slow it down, I would 
consider changing to a different ISP.  And I think there's still a 
difference in quality compared to things like edonkey, which are used 
exclusively for illegal filesharing.

Its not a legal/illegal issue. Its a using more bandwidth than you are
paying for issue. Im sure if you were running bittorrent all day long
your ISP would be very glad to see you go.
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Matthias Buelow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its not a legal/illegal issue. Its a using more bandwidth than you are
paying for issue. Im sure if you were running bittorrent all day long
your ISP would be very glad to see you go.
I'm paying for a flatrate (ADSL) at home.  I don't use the bandwidth 
most of the time, simply because I have no interest in leeching movies 
without end, but a lot of others do.  In fact, the ISP has just upped 
the downstream from 768 to 1024 kbit/s at no extra cost.  Many people I 
know have p2p-stuff running day and night.  I mean, the company isn't 
giving you the bandwidth for altruistic reasons either, you pay them 
money for it.

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread TM4526
In a message dated 11/8/04 1:23:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Its not a legal/illegal issue. Its a using more bandwidth than you are
 paying for issue. Im sure if you were running bittorrent all day long
 your ISP would be very glad to see you go.

I'm paying for a flatrate (ADSL) at home.  I don't use the bandwidth 
most of the time, simply because I have no interest in leeching movies 
without end, but a lot of others do.  In fact, the ISP has just upped 
the downstream from 768 to 1024 kbit/s at no extra cost.  Many people I 
know have p2p-stuff running day and night.  I mean, the company isn't 
giving you the bandwidth for altruistic reasons either, you pay them 
money for it.

This is a technical forum? Yikes!
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Matthias Buelow
This is a technical forum? Yikes!
Is it, Mr./Ms. [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread TM4526
In a message dated 11/8/04 4:59:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This is a technical forum? Yikes!

Is it, Mr./Ms. [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Well then why don't you fill Mr. I pay my ISP so I should be able to use all
the bandwidth I want how things really work, because I don't have the 
energy.
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Thomas Lippert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/8/04 4:59:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This is a technical forum? Yikes!

Is it, Mr./Ms. [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Used to be Mr./Ms. [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
and in a bit will be Mr./Ms. [EMAIL PROTECTED]? sigh
It would be nice if TM452? could more or less refrain from
trolling though, and perhaps gasp back one of the claims
up. These posts used to be kind of amusing, but now they
just clog up the list.
Well then why don't you fill Mr. I pay my ISP so I should be able to use all
the bandwidth I want how things really work, because I don't have the 
energy.
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
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This is a technical forum? Yikes!

Is it, Mr./Ms. [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
I remember a man.  His name was Don.  He called himself Rev.
And then one day, god truly spoke to the dear Rev, or maybe just the 
rest of us, and we stopped feeding the troll.  and for a time, it was 
good.  Time to fire up the wildcard function on the blacklister here. 
Thanks for the good times!

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-08 Thread Karel Miklav
I don't believe in democracy but in this case it could come handy. 
Somebody could propose like: let's get this fuck off the list and we'd 
say ... well ... I say YES!

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re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread nbco
Hey list,
I downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1 iso via bittorrent.

The iso (644.91MB) downloaded in about 3 hours, over a  512/256 adsl 
connection. Which I think is pretty good.  

There don't seem to be that many people uploading it from me at the 
moment.

I'm impressed,
.nbco
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread Quinn Ellis
nbco wrote:
Hey list,
I downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1 iso via bittorrent.
The iso (644.91MB) downloaded in about 3 hours, over a  512/256 adsl 
connection. Which I think is pretty good.  

There don't seem to be that many people uploading it from me at the 
moment.

I'm impressed,
.nbco
 

Why do you download with bittorrent as opposed to FTP?
Quinn.
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread Dev Tugnait
Nice dude..well quinn the freebsd team is giving bitorrent a whirl!

* nbco ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hey list,
 I downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1 iso via bittorrent.
 
 The iso (644.91MB) downloaded in about 3 hours, over a  512/256 adsl 
 connection. Which I think is pretty good.  
 
 There don't seem to be that many people uploading it from me at the 
 moment.
 
 I'm impressed,
 .nbco
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread Tim Aslat
In the immortal words of Quinn Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Why do you download with bittorrent as opposed to FTP?

Distributed sources, this way FTP servers don't get as hammered if parts
of the download are coming from multiple sources.

Cheers

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread nbco
On Monday 08 November 2004 00:28, Quinn Ellis wrote:
 nbco wrote:
 Hey list,
 I downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1 iso via bittorrent.
 
 The iso (644.91MB) downloaded in about 3 hours, over a  512/256 adsl
 connection. Which I think is pretty good.
 
 There don't seem to be that many people uploading it from me at the
 moment.
 
 I'm impressed,
 .nbco

 Why do you download with bittorrent as opposed to FTP?
 Quinn.

Hi there,
Well, I suppose one of the main reasons is to keep pressure off the ftp 
servers: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/060205.html
Also it's being released as a torrent on an experimental basis:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/042511.html
The community were interested in it coming out this way too:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/063501.html

.nbco
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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread Nikolas Britton
Quinn Ellis wrote:
Why do you download with bittorrent as opposed to FTP?
Lets do the math...
you'll note that http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ at this moment says 
there's been 1978 completed downloads.
Lets pick an arbitrary average size for each file downloaded: 388MB

388 * 1978 = 767.5GB
11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:30PM: Now
11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00PM: Official availability of 5.3

27.5 Hours
767.5 / 27.5 = 27.9GB/h / 60 = 465MB/m / 60 = 7.75MB/s
-
All of this data and bandwidth above has been shifted off the servers 
and onto the downloaders. This saves freebsd and its primary mirrors 
money, this is why I chose to download freebsd via bittorrent and why 
I'm going keep my bittorrent client open for others.

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread Nikolas Britton
Nikolas Britton wrote:
Quinn Ellis wrote:
Why do you download with bittorrent as opposed to FTP?

Lets do the math...
you'll note that http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ at this moment says 
there's been 1978 completed downloads.
Lets pick an arbitrary average size for each file downloaded: 388MB

388 * 1978 = 767.5GB
11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:30PM: Now
11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00PM: Official availability of 5.3

27.5 Hours
767.5 / 27.5 = 27.9GB/h / 60 = 465MB/m / 60 = 7.75MB/s
- 

All of this data and bandwidth above has been shifted off the servers 
and onto the downloaders. This saves freebsd and its primary mirrors 
money, this is why I chose to download freebsd via bittorrent and why 
I'm going keep my bittorrent client open for others.
Also, to put this into terms of money, a fractional T3/DS3 line will 
cost around $7,000/Month.

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Re: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread Nikolas Britton
Nikolas Britton wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
Quinn Ellis wrote:
Why do you download with bittorrent as opposed to FTP?

Lets do the math...
you'll note that http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ at this moment 
says there's been 1978 completed downloads.
Lets pick an arbitrary average size for each file downloaded: 388MB

388 * 1978 = 767.5GB
11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:30PM: Now
11/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00PM: Official availability of 5.3

27.5 Hours
767.5 / 27.5 = 27.9GB/h / 60 = 465MB/m / 60 = 7.75MB/s
- 

All of this data and bandwidth above has been shifted off the servers 
and onto the downloaders. This saves freebsd and its primary mirrors 
money, this is why I chose to download freebsd via bittorrent and why 
I'm going keep my bittorrent client open for others.

Also, to put this into terms of money, a fractional T3/DS3 line will 
cost around $7,000/Month.

Sorry, I fudged my terms up (MegaByte, Megabit)  7.75MB/s = 62Mb/s
That means you'd need a OC2 line (104Mb/s) and this is around $27,000/Month.
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RE: re bittorrent

2004-11-07 Thread Joseph H. Fry
Not to mention, if there are enough clients hosting, then downloads can
often be faster.

Why?  Because partial downloads can be pulled from multiple sources.

I just downloaded the miniinst iso in under 15min at an average rate of
about 360KB/s from a pool of 10 servents (bittorrent server/clients).
The only way I could get it that fast with FTP is if I used getright or
someother ftp client that allows for splitting a download across
multiple FTP servers.

Now of course the real benefit comes just after a release when everyone
and their uncle is downloading a copy and the FTP servers are extra
busy.  When things slow down a bit it's not as big a benefit.

 Joe Fry 
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Re: Bittorrent not in ports?

2004-06-21 Thread Gordon Freeman
Try:

/usr/ports/net/ctorrent
/usr/ports/net/py-torrent
/usr/ports/net/qtorrent
/usr/ports/net/torrentsniff

I am currenlty using py-torrent. But I will be taking a look at the
other two (ctorrent and qtorrent) shortly.

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:05:22 -0300, Joey Mingrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 ..or see:  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=torrentstype=all
 
 There are a few different options for torrent clients.
 
 On June 18, 2004 22:38, Julian M. Mason wrote:
  ...is bittorrent really not in ports?
 
  my usual
  # cd /usr/ports ; make search name=bittorrent
  and
  # whereis bittorrent
 
  turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net.
 
  Do I have to actually go and get something myself? gasp
 
 
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Re: Bittorrent not in ports?

2004-06-20 Thread Joey Mingrone
..or see:  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=torrentstype=all

There are a few different options for torrent clients.

On June 18, 2004 22:38, Julian M. Mason wrote:
 ...is bittorrent really not in ports?

 my usual
 # cd /usr/ports ; make search name=bittorrent
 and
 # whereis bittorrent

 turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net.

 Do I have to actually go and get something myself? gasp


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Re: Bittorrent not in ports?

2004-06-19 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 06:38:23PM -0700, Julian M. Mason wrote:
 ...is bittorrent really not in ports?
 
 my usual 
 # cd /usr/ports ; make search name=bittorrent 
 and 
 # whereis bittorrent
 
 turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net.
 
 Do I have to actually go and get something myself? gasp

As others have mentioned the location of the bittorrent port I'll skip
that bit - just a note though to say check out the portsearch perl
script which is useful for finding ports:

/usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch -i bittorrent

turns up plenty to go on.


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Re: Bittorrent not in ports?

2004-06-18 Thread Chris
On Friday 18 June 2004 08:38 pm, Julian M. Mason wrote:
 ...is bittorrent really not in ports?

 my usual
 # cd /usr/ports ; make search name=bittorrent
 and
 # whereis bittorrent

 turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net.

 Do I have to actually go and get something myself? gasp


 --Mac

Try this:

make search key=bittorrent | more


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Re: Bittorrent not in ports?

2004-06-18 Thread Danny Pansters
On Saturday 19 June 2004 03:38, Julian M. Mason wrote:
 ...is bittorrent really not in ports?

 my usual
 # cd /usr/ports ; make search name=bittorrent
 and
 # whereis bittorrent

 turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net.

 Do I have to actually go and get something myself? gasp


 --Mac


/usr/ports/net/py-bittorrent

Python ports have names like py-THE_NAME and packages have py23-THE_NAME (or 
any later python version).


Cheers,

Dan

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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-20 Thread Andreas Kohn
Am Wed, 2003-07-16 um 07.30 schrieb Dragoncrest:
   Is there a copy of BitTorrent that will run on Freebsd?  Is it in the 
 Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like to run my 
 BT downloads on my bsd box as that's the only machine that's ever up 24/7 
 hence the perfect choice.

net/py-bittorrent is the correct port.

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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread Vulpes Velox
Yeah...
/usr/ports/py-bittorrent

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:48 -0400
Dragoncrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Is there a copy of BitTorrent that will run on Freebsd?  Is it in the 
 Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like to run my 
 BT downloads on my bsd box as that's the only machine that's ever up 24/7 
 hence the perfect choice.
 
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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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On Wednesday 16 July 2003 07:30, Dragoncrest wrote:
   Is there a copy of BitTorrent that will run on Freebsd?  Is it in
 the Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like
 to run my BT downloads on my bsd box as that's the only machine
 that's ever up 24/7 hence the perfect choice.

# cd /usr/ports  make search name=bittorrent
Port:   py22-BitTorrent-3.2.1.b
Path:   /usr/ports/net/py-bittorrent
Info:   A peer-to-peer tool for distributing files written in Python

I've been using it for about a month, it works great.

Antoine
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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread Joshua Lokken
Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
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On Wednesday 16 July 2003 07:30, Dragoncrest wrote:

Is there a copy of BitTorrent that will run on Freebsd?  Is it in
the Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like
to run my BT downloads on my bsd box as that's the only machine
that's ever up 24/7 hence the perfect choice.


# cd /usr/ports  make search name=bittorrent
Port:   py22-BitTorrent-3.2.1.b
Path:   /usr/ports/net/py-bittorrent
Info:   A peer-to-peer tool for distributing files written in Python
I've been using it for about a month, it works great.

Ditto!  A great tool.

Joshua

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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread Edy Lie
What is the main file which run bittorrent after installing it from port
?

Thanks!
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:09, Vulpes Velox wrote:
 Yeah...
 /usr/ports/py-bittorrent
 
 On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:48 -0400
 Dragoncrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there a copy of BitTorrent that will run on Freebsd?  Is it in the 
  Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like to run my 
  BT downloads on my bsd box as that's the only machine that's ever up 24/7 
  hence the perfect choice.
  
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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
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On Wednesday 16 July 2003 18:45, Edy Lie wrote:
 What is the main file which run bittorrent after installing it from
 port ?

/usr/local/bin/btdownloadgui.py

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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread Dragoncrest

 What is the main file which run bittorrent after installing it from
 port ?
/usr/local/bin/btdownloadgui.py
GUI?  Can this run in console or does it have to run under a WM like KDE?

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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread lewiz
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 01:30:48AM -0400, Dragoncrest wrote:
   the Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like to 

cd /usr/ports
make search key=bittorrent will help you ;)

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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-16 Thread Vulpes Velox
 more pkg-plist

On 17 Jul 2003 00:45:42 +0800
Edy Lie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the main file which run bittorrent after installing it from port
 ?
 
 Thanks!
 On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:09, Vulpes Velox wrote:
  Yeah...
  /usr/ports/py-bittorrent
  
  On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:30:48 -0400
  Dragoncrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Is there a copy of BitTorrent that will run on Freebsd?  Is it in the 
   Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like to run
   my BT downloads on my bsd box as that's the only machine that's ever up
   24/7 hence the perfect choice.
   
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Re: BitTorrent for Freebsd??

2003-07-15 Thread mpd
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 01:30:48AM -0400, Dragoncrest wrote:
   Is there a copy of BitTorrent that will run on Freebsd?  Is it in 
   the Ports cause if it is, I certainly haven't found it yet.  I'd like to 
 run my BT downloads on my bsd box as that's the only machine that's ever up 
 24/7 hence the perfect choice.
 
/usr/ports/net/py-bittorrent

I've had it installed for several months. Perhaps it's time to
cvsup your ports skeletons?

mike

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