Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On Saturday 22 August 2009 02:40:53 Scott Schappell wrote: > On Aug 21, 2009, at 17:32:13, Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Friday 21 August 2009 07:34:11 Scott Schappell wrote: > >> Looking at info.0 I see: > >> > >> > >> Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b > >> Architecture: i386 > >> Architecture Version: 2 > >> Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB) > >> Blocksize: 512 > >> Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009 > >> Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org > >> Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > >> Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT > >> 2009 > >> r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR > >> Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod > >> Dump Parity: 2778312054 > >> Bounds: 0 > >> Dump Status: good > >> > >> This is interesting: > >> > >> "Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod" > >> > >> It looks I'm guessing this is saying "read only file system > >> modified". So it looks like the problem is with mount? > >> > >> If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me > >> know. > >> > >> Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted > >> then mount -o rw /backup. > >> > >> Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware > >> related. > > > > There should be a backtrace in info.0 already. That part contains more > > relevant information. > > Nope, that's all info.0 contains. Follow up. Temp fix available here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=193338+0+current/freebsd-current -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On Friday 21 August 2009 07:34:11 Scott Schappell wrote: > Looking at info.0 I see: > > > Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b >Architecture: i386 >Architecture Version: 2 >Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB) >Blocksize: 512 >Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009 >Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org >Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump >Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT > 2009 > r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR >Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod >Dump Parity: 2778312054 >Bounds: 0 >Dump Status: good > > This is interesting: > > "Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod" > > It looks I'm guessing this is saying "read only file system > modified". So it looks like the problem is with mount? > > If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know. > > Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted > then mount -o rw /backup. > > Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related. There should be a backtrace in info.0 already. That part contains more relevant information. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
Looking at info.0 I see: Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b Architecture: i386 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009 Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod Dump Parity: 2778312054 Bounds: 0 Dump Status: good This is interesting: "Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod" It looks I'm guessing this is saying "read only file system modified". So it looks like the problem is with mount? If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know. Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted then mount -o rw /backup. Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related. Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On August 20, 2009, Scott Schappell wrote: > I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified > it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have > dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well. If you don't have it already, you may also need ddb_enable="YES" savecore_enable="YES" Cheers, -- Norbert Papke. npa...@acm.org http://saveournet.ca Protecting your Internet's level playing field ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:40:27 Scott Schappell wrote: > On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote: > > On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ker > >>neldebug.html > > > > OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following > > > > umount /backup > > mount -o rw /backup > > [r...@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024 > > dd: /backup/testfile: end of device > > 21122+0 records in > > 21121+0 records out > > 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec) > > [r...@arthur ~]# > > As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB, > using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw. > > This is puzzling. I agree. These errors make no sense to me, which leads me to drive cable or physical memory problems, perhaps filesystem corruption. Since you have plenty of space on /home, is it possible for you to move whatever's on /backup to /home, then newfs /backup? Of course you could try fsck -y /backup in single user, but with these weird errors, I trust the filesystem on that disk as far as I can throw it. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote: On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following umount /backup mount -o rw /backup [r...@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024 dd: /backup/testfile: end of device 21122+0 records in 21121+0 records out 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec) [r...@arthur ~]# As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB, using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw. This is puzzling. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following umount /backup mount -o rw /backup [r...@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024 dd: /backup/testfile: end of device 21122+0 records in 21121+0 records out 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec) [r...@arthur ~]# You can see by that snippet it barfed at 21627094 bytes (21 megabytes, ish). /backup has 100s of GiB free. Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a9.7G453M8.5G 5%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1d 15G481M 13G 4%/var /dev/ad0s1e 15G3.1G 10G23%/usr /dev/ad0s1f 15G1.4G 12G10%/usr/local /dev/ad0s1g216G3.5G195G 2%/home /dev/ad2s1d226G 32G176G15%/backup I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well. Could this have anything to do with how I added the drive? I followed the handbook instructions but maybe I messed it up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On Thursday 20 August 2009 15:00:48 Scott Schappell wrote: > On Aug 20, 2009, at 15:42:05, Mel Flynn wrote: > > I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and > > on the same > > node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the > > system. > > > > If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump, > > though I > > suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine > > such a bug > > has slipped into vfs/ufs. > > -- > > Mel > > Since using the mount -r syntax, it hasn't crashed once. How does one > obtain a crash dump? I'll be happy to force the system to hork and > send a crash log. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 12:11:10 Tim Judd wrote: > On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell wrote: > > I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read > > only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If > > I set /etc/fstab to: > > > > /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro > > 0 0 > > On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run: > > mount -uw / > to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're > trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics. I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and on the same node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the system. If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump, though I suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine such a bug has slipped into vfs/ufs. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On Aug 18, 2009, at 13:11:10, Tim Judd wrote: On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run: mount -uw / to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics. Try in your script: mount -u -w /backups or shorter by a little: mount -uw /backups do your stuff, then go back to read-only: mount -ur /backups HTH We have a winner. I am sheepish in admitting I didn't read the man page well enough for mount. Thanks for the answer! Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell wrote: > I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read > only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If > I set /etc/fstab to: > > /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro > 0 0 On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run: mount -uw / to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics. Try in your script: mount -u -w /backups or shorter by a little: mount -uw /backups do your stuff, then go back to read-only: mount -ur /backups HTH > > to mount it read only most of the time then do: > > umount /backup > mount -o rw /backup > > the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing > data. The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write. > > Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and > touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 > #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/ > obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR i386 > > Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot? > > Thanks! > > Scott > > P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :) > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot
I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If I set /etc/fstab to: /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro 0 0 to mount it read only most of the time then do: umount /backup mount -o rw /backup the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing data. The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write. Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated. # uname -a FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 r...@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/ obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR i386 Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot? Thanks! Scott P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: remounting a drive
Are you running the command as root? -- Original message -- From: Steel City Phantom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >i tried that command as well, still got the operation not permitted >error >Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > On Friday 22 June 2007 00:30, Steel City Phantom wrote: > > >tried >mount -u rw / >and >mount -u rw /dev/ad1s1 / >with the same result, no permission error >next idea or did i get the command wrong > > > Yes, the command is wrong. > It is "mount -u -w [ device | mount point ]" > > Nikos > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > [2]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to [3]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > References > >1. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >2. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: remounting a drive
i tried that command as well, still got the operation not permitted error Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: On Friday 22 June 2007 00:30, Steel City Phantom wrote: tried mount -u rw / and mount -u rw /dev/ad1s1 / with the same result, no permission error next idea or did i get the command wrong Yes, the command is wrong. It is "mount -u -w [ device | mount point ]" Nikos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list [2]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [3]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" References 1. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 2. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions 3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: remounting a drive
On Friday 22 June 2007 20:33, Steel City Phantom wrote: > > > Please, use plain text when posting to this list! > i tried that command as well, still got the operation not permitted > error Is the filesystem clean? can you "fsck /" just in case? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: remounting a drive
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:30, Steel City Phantom wrote: >tried >mount -u rw / >and >mount -u rw /dev/ad1s1 / >with the same result, no permission error >next idea or did i get the command wrong Yes, the command is wrong. It is "mount -u -w [ device | mount point ]" Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: remounting a drive
On Thursday 21 June 2007 16:30:11 Steel City Phantom wrote: >tried >mount -u rw / >and >mount -u rw /dev/ad1s1 / >with the same result, no permission error >next idea or did i get the command wrong >Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Steel City Phantom [1]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > ok, i had a working bsd system. > > i shut it down, and removed a drive from it to use in another computer > > i turn it on and i get mounting errors, nothing unsual, can't find drives > > from the manualroot prompt i put in the path to the root partition to > the drive that is still in the machine > > i boot to single user mode > > im now trying to edit my fstab so i can boot normally (the drive > numbers moved from ad1 to ad0 because i removed a hardrive) > > i can see all the files, i mounted my /usr partition, but for some > reason i can't remount the / parition to edit the fstab. when i enter > the command mount -o rw / i get operation not permitted. i tried > mount -o rw /dev/ad1s1 / and mount -o rw /dev/ad0s1 /and got the same > thing. ive used this in the past and it works, i don't know why its > not working now. any ideas? > > bsd 6.2 if it matters > > when i do mount > /dev/ad1s1 on / (ufs, local, read-only) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/ad1s1f on /usr/ (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > > Try the "-u" (update) option. > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > [3]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > [4]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > References > >1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >2. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >3. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >4. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" might try a freesbie live cd or freebsd install cd, to find your partition and make your edits to the fstab there. good luck, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: remounting a drive
tried mount -u rw / and mount -u rw /dev/ad1s1 / with the same result, no permission error next idea or did i get the command wrong Lowell Gilbert wrote: Steel City Phantom [1]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ok, i had a working bsd system. i shut it down, and removed a drive from it to use in another computer i turn it on and i get mounting errors, nothing unsual, can't find drives from the manualroot prompt i put in the path to the root partition to the drive that is still in the machine i boot to single user mode im now trying to edit my fstab so i can boot normally (the drive numbers moved from ad1 to ad0 because i removed a hardrive) i can see all the files, i mounted my /usr partition, but for some reason i can't remount the / parition to edit the fstab. when i enter the command mount -o rw / i get operation not permitted. i tried mount -o rw /dev/ad1s1 / and mount -o rw /dev/ad0s1 /and got the same thing. ive used this in the past and it works, i don't know why its not working now. any ideas? bsd 6.2 if it matters when i do mount /dev/ad1s1 on / (ufs, local, read-only) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad1s1f on /usr/ (ufs, local, soft-updates) Try the "-u" (update) option. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list [3]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [4]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 3. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions 4. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: remounting a drive
Steel City Phantom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ok, i had a working bsd system. > > i shut it down, and removed a drive from it to use in another computer > > i turn it on and i get mounting errors, nothing unsual, can't find drives > > from the manualroot prompt i put in the path to the root partition to > the drive that is still in the machine > > i boot to single user mode > > im now trying to edit my fstab so i can boot normally (the drive > numbers moved from ad1 to ad0 because i removed a hardrive) > > i can see all the files, i mounted my /usr partition, but for some > reason i can't remount the / parition to edit the fstab. when i enter > the command mount -o rw / i get operation not permitted. i tried > mount -o rw /dev/ad1s1 / and mount -o rw /dev/ad0s1 /and got the same > thing. ive used this in the past and it works, i don't know why its > not working now. any ideas? > > bsd 6.2 if it matters > > when i do mount > /dev/ad1s1 on / (ufs, local, read-only) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/ad1s1f on /usr/ (ufs, local, soft-updates) Try the "-u" (update) option. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
remounting a drive
ok, i had a working bsd system. i shut it down, and removed a drive from it to use in another computer i turn it on and i get mounting errors, nothing unsual, can't find drives from the manualroot prompt i put in the path to the root partition to the drive that is still in the machine i boot to single user mode im now trying to edit my fstab so i can boot normally (the drive numbers moved from ad1 to ad0 because i removed a hardrive) i can see all the files, i mounted my /usr partition, but for some reason i can't remount the / parition to edit the fstab. when i enter the command mount -o rw / i get operation not permitted. i tried mount -o rw /dev/ad1s1 / and mount -o rw /dev/ad0s1 /and got the same thing. ive used this in the past and it works, i don't know why its not working now. any ideas? bsd 6.2 if it matters when i do mount /dev/ad1s1 on / (ufs, local, read-only) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad1s1f on /usr/ (ufs, local, soft-updates) thanks willie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
