requesting 'QA' assistance

2008-04-08 Thread Jim Stapleton
I have something I'd like to add to ports eventually, but it isn't
read yet. I was wondering what the preferred method of requesting
users take a peek at it and tell me what they think/want.

The actual software would go under ports-mgmt, and has the main
functionality intended. The actuall set of programs is called 'virtual
ports', and it allows a keyword and virtual directory indexing of the
ports tree. The goal is to allow people to play around with different
designs of the ports tree without having to change the system ports
tree - preventing breakage in programs, and giving both the users and
maintainers of the ports tree more flexibility in organization.

Should I post the tbz file on my web server, and post a link on a
mailing list, or post the copied/pasted shar to the mailing list
(466kb, so I'm guessing /no/ to that one).

Should I post here or to -ports?

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: requesting 'QA' assistance

2008-04-08 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have something I'd like to add to ports eventually, but it isn't
 read yet. I was wondering what the preferred method of requesting
 users take a peek at it and tell me what they think/want.
 
 The actual software would go under ports-mgmt, and has the main
 functionality intended. The actuall set of programs is called 'virtual
 ports', and it allows a keyword and virtual directory indexing of the
 ports tree. The goal is to allow people to play around with different
 designs of the ports tree without having to change the system ports
 tree - preventing breakage in programs, and giving both the users and
 maintainers of the ports tree more flexibility in organization.
 
 Should I post the tbz file on my web server, and post a link on a
 mailing list, or post the copied/pasted shar to the mailing list
 (466kb, so I'm guessing /no/ to that one).
 
 Should I post here or to -ports?

My opinion would be make a .tgz of the port directory and put it on
a web/ftp server somewhere, then post a link to the ports mailing list
asking folks to look at it and provide feedback.

Yes, a 466K shar file posted to the mailing list is going to tick a lot
of people off ;)

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Re: requesting 'QA' assistance

2008-04-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:42:02 -0400
Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In response to Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I have something I'd like to add to ports eventually, but it isn't
  read yet. I was wondering what the preferred method of requesting
  users take a peek at it and tell me what they think/want.
  
  The actual software would go under ports-mgmt, and has the main
  functionality intended. The actuall set of programs is called 'virtual
  ports', and it allows a keyword and virtual directory indexing of the
  ports tree. The goal is to allow people to play around with different
  designs of the ports tree without having to change the system ports
  tree - preventing breakage in programs, and giving both the users and
  maintainers of the ports tree more flexibility in organization.
  
  Should I post the tbz file on my web server, and post a link on a
  mailing list, or post the copied/pasted shar to the mailing list
  (466kb, so I'm guessing /no/ to that one).
  
  Should I post here or to -ports?
 
 My opinion would be make a .tgz of the port directory and put it on
 a web/ftp server somewhere, then post a link to the ports mailing list
 asking folks to look at it and provide feedback.
 
 Yes, a 466K shar file posted to the mailing list is going to tick a lot
 of people off ;)

.shar, .shar.gz, .tgz - whatever, put it somewhere and post a link to
it on ports@ which is the best place for it.

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Re: requesting 'QA' assistance

2008-04-08 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman

Jim Stapleton wrote:

I have something I'd like to add to ports eventually, but it isn't
read yet. I was wondering what the preferred method of requesting
users take a peek at it and tell me what they think/want.
  


Normally I would agree with everyone that says to ask on -ports@ but 
this fits extremely well with what is generally refered to as ports 2.0 
(different names are used by different members of the loose community 
working on it, I have CC'ed everyone else so you know who they are).

The actual software would go under ports-mgmt, and has the main
functionality intended. The actuall set of programs is called 'virtual
ports', and it allows a keyword and virtual directory indexing of the
ports tree. The goal is to allow people to play around with different
designs of the ports tree without having to change the system ports
tree - preventing breakage in programs, and giving both the users and
maintainers of the ports tree more flexibility in organization.
  


I don't know if this fits 100% what Ale calls virtual ports (see 
http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsToDo) but it very close to the image I have 
for them (we need to know more details of course).   I am going to 
forward you some stuff so you can have a better idea of where the ports 
2.0 are heading.   Also keep in mind that at the very least I will 
likely want to look at your stuff in extreme detail because something 
like this is a natural extension of the SoC project I am awaiting 
approval on.

Should I post the tbz file on my web server, and post a link on a
mailing list, or post the copied/pasted shar to the mailing list
(466kb, so I'm guessing /no/ to that one).

Should I post here or to -ports?
  


There are some historical/political reasons why you should have a small 
group look at it before you post the code to -ports@ (see the references 
I am sending you)

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: requesting 'QA' assistance

2008-04-08 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
Oops Alex Ryba was a careless click on my behalf the actual person is 
Alejandro Pulver [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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