FW: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem - more part 2

2007-04-18 Thread Murray Taylor


 BTW we have also successfully booted the 
'offending box' with FC4 and it all came up ok.
This should rule out hardware issues I hope.

Is there a way to force a (re)scan of the other PCI
busses ??

Or is there a hint.??? line I can add?

mjt

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From: Murray Taylor 
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Subject: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem - more

OK -- at present I cannot get a 6.2 install disk
to get anywhere further.

Trying FreeSBIE 2.0.1  (aka 6.2) I can get a boot
with 

set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
set acpi_load=NO
boot -v

However it doesnt find the bge card nor has it found
an fxp card we have tried, so I cant get to dmesg output 
off the machine

What i have seen is that the ServeRAID 8i controller 
say it is on PCI bus 1:2:0

Nowhere in the boot log is pcib1 or any mention of
the physical pci bus 1

Just to test I booted an IBM pizza box x305 with the FreeSBIE disk
in the same fashion, and up comes its bge i/f, the boot -v logs 
show 

pcib0 , pcib1 , pcib2

along with their associated physical busses.

Any help  greatly welcomed

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Re: BSD make vs. GNU make

2007-04-18 Thread Kevin Brunelle
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 13:15:08 Bill Campbell wrote:
 The gmake program has many extensions which tend to be used in
 the gnu automake, autoconf, libtools system.

 I suspect that gmake will work with most non-gnu Makefiles, but
 the reverse is not true.

This suspicion is not necessarily true.  That is something I learned the hard 
way back when I was in college.  I was doing all my development on FreeBSD in 
my dorm room but the target machine was Linux.  Because I was naive, I didn't 
concern myself with which make I was using.  And I hand created a Makefile 
for my project.  I did this in my room and I was referencing the 
documentation for PMake (/usr/share/doc/psd/12.make) as recommended by the 
man page.

The time of the week comes to move to the lab environment... and I copied my 
files there and saw a bug.  So I started fixing it and ended up on a roll 
where I wrote a large portion of code.  I saved the code, exited vi, and ran 
make.  Well, some syntax in my Makefile and gmake did not agree.  And rather 
than just erroring nicely, it zeroed out my source file and then errored out.  
I'd lost well over an hour of work which I never really did recreate to my 
recollection of it.  Even though I have saved religiously while working, I 
have never bothered to commit the changed to the repository so it was all 
lost.  Had I stayed in vi and run make in a subshell or committed my 
changes... well, can't go back and make better choices now.

I've since moved on and that project collects digital dust somewhere... along 
with the circuit board it was meant to control.  I wish I had kept the 
original Makefile so I know exactly what I did.  But at the time I was so 
panicked that I rewrote it to work with gmake and just remembered to use 
gmake in my room as well.

Anyway, I am rambling.  We can't make the assumption that gmake is backwards 
compatible with any other form of make.  Actually, we can demonstrate that 
it's not the case by trying to use gmake with ports... you will find that it 
fails with an error.  At least with ports it's nondestructive.  :)

-Kevin
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Re: MS, Adobe competition heats up, Will Adobe wake and port Flash to BSD?

2007-04-18 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri

On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 17/04/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
. . .
 Porting Flash to more OSes will sure will make adobe beats MS when it
 comes to web media.

I hope they kill each other and take the whole
retch-media enhanced web experience with
them flaming into the pit of hell from which
they came.

But that's just my opinion.

References:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood


I'm sorry but rich media is a fact in the web, and you can't ignore it.

Flash is used with Yahoo! maps, and so with alot of useful apps like
stocks prices ..etc.

Instead of ignoring it, we should see it ported to FreeBSD.


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Regards,

-Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
Arab Portal
http://www.WeArab.Net/
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FW: IBM / FreeBSD - Install Update - Seems to be ACPI

2007-04-18 Thread Murray Taylor

In our initial posts, we stated that we seemed to be having issues
getting the machine to boot with the 4 processors, so to bypass this we
disabled ACPI on boot. This allowed us to get past the CPU error and
continue to boot. However down the track we noticed things like the
ethernet adapater not getting picked up, and the big problem - none of
the disks getting recognised.

We have since tried a few things, one of which was removing all but one
of the CPU's. If we do this, and boot with ACPI enabled, all is totally
fine. All disks are found, and I receive no CPU panic error.

So it appears to me that by disabling ACPI in an attempt to bypass the
QUAD CPU problem, we are causing another issue behind the scenes.

The root of the problem now appears to be, that if we have anything over
1 CPU, directly after the kernel is loaded (when booting from the CD),
we receive the error message panic: madt_probe_cpus_handler: CPU ID 38
Too High. The moment a second CPU to the machineit bombs out.

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Re: MS, Adobe competition heats up, Will Adobe wake and port Flash to BSD?

2007-04-18 Thread Garrett Cooper

Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote:

On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 17/04/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
. . .
 Porting Flash to more OSes will sure will make adobe beats MS when it
 comes to web media.

I hope they kill each other and take the whole
retch-media enhanced web experience with
them flaming into the pit of hell from which
they came.

But that's just my opinion.

References:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood


I'm sorry but rich media is a fact in the web, and you can't ignore it.

Flash is used with Yahoo! maps, and so with alot of useful apps like
stocks prices ..etc.

Instead of ignoring it, we should see it ported to FreeBSD.


Flash is a decent media, but it just gets abused like any other form of 
web-based media. Same goes for Javascript, Java, and even HTML. Flash is 
just easier to abuse than Java and Javascript because of the tools and 
delivery of content (audio and video, etc).


-Garrett
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