Re: 4.5-PRERELEASE (25 Dec) and IBM IC35L040AVER07-0

2001-12-29 Thread Eugene Grosbein

On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 09:11:07AM +0100, Blaz Zupan wrote:

  You do not use tags, do you?
 The default is off I believe and I have not explicitely turned them on, so
 yes, I'm not using them.

Those errors were 100% reproducible.
Now I've commented out 'hw.ata.tags=1' from /boot/loader.conf
and all errors have disappeared.

I still wonder if it software or hardware incompatibility.

Eugene Grosbein

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Re: Size of / partition?

2001-12-29 Thread Francisco Reyes

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Julio Merino wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:32:36PM -, David Reid wrote:
  Just cvsup'd to stable and I've almost run out of room on /!  How big should
  I create it when I reinstall as I now don't have enough to do another build.

 I allocate 70Mb for / on a 20gb disk and never ran out of space. You may
 have old /modules and/or kernels laying around, as well as files in
 /root. Also check your /tmp (which I mount on its own partition,
 or with mfs!).

On a new machine with a big drive I would recommend people used at least
100MB. In particular I have found that some programs when they crash and
create a core file it may end up filling up /. On my newer machines at
work with lots of space I made / 1GB, /var 1GB and the rest to /usr. These
are machines where I have much more free space than they will probably
ever need anyway so space wasn't much of an issue.

On a machine which is tighter with space I would suggest still to try and
get 100MB root. Another possible approach may be to leave /var on / and
give / 150MB.

Space ALWAYS comes down to what are you going to do with the machine.
On most instances / is rarelly used. /var can sometimes be a problem if
you have a runaway log which you forgot to add to newsyslog and this is
why many people like to have /var separate from /.



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Broken Pipe

2001-12-29 Thread Sam Drinkard

Can someone confirm something isn't broken in pipe?  Each time I attempt
to read/write thru a pipe of any siginifcant size, it breaks.  Files
built dec 18th from -Pre.

Sam


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Re: Downgrading source

2001-12-29 Thread Gunnar Flygt

On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:35:48AM +, Dominic Marks wrote:
 On Saturday 29 December 2001 11:24 am, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
  I have a machine that run 4.2-RELEASE. This one is also the
  webserver where I keep access to the latest documentation (i.e.
  FreeBSD) I've been lazy and always run make update from the
  /usr/src directory, when updating the /usr/doc sources. The tag for
  cvsup is RELENG_4, so the sources are stable.
 
  To upgrade the machine I want to `make buildworld` with 4.3 first
  and then to 4.4.
 
 Okay. Any particular reason?

Just don't want to break something by taking a too big step.
 
  Is it safe to just change the tag for cvsup to the 4.3-RELEASE
  branch or should i delete the sources first?
 
 CVSup will deal with it for you.
 
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686B Testing

2001-12-29 Thread Joshua Coombs

I see it's gone quiet on the 686B front, this due to a lack of testers and
if so, what do I need to do to provide usefull info?

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Re: Downgrading source

2001-12-29 Thread Dominic Marks

On Saturday 29 December 2001 6:50 pm, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:35:48AM +, Dominic Marks wrote:
  On Saturday 29 December 2001 11:24 am, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
   I have a machine that run 4.2-RELEASE. This one is also the
   webserver where I keep access to the latest documentation (i.e.
   FreeBSD) I've been lazy and always run make update from the
   /usr/src directory, when updating the /usr/doc sources. The tag
   for cvsup is RELENG_4, so the sources are stable.
  
   To upgrade the machine I want to `make buildworld` with 4.3
   first and then to 4.4.
 
  Okay. Any particular reason?

 Just don't want to break something by taking a too big step.

I wouldn't say thats a big jump, but you do whatever your 
comfortable with.

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4.5-PRERELEASE -- Pobs in compiling custom kernel

2001-12-29 Thread Bernie

Hello,

i'm new to freebsd and did cvsup for first time a couple of days ago...

build world went all ok and i'm now with the generic kernel. I tried to
compile a custom kernel but the compilation stops.

Errors i get is of type 'syntax error line...', 'undefined variable...'
etc. It seems to occur in linux...c and linux...h files and i suspect
it's caused by the option LINUX_COMPAT.

Anyway, since i'm new to all this:

1. Is this the right list for this kind of stuff? or should i post in
freebsd-questions instead?

2. Is it ok to send attachment on lists? i have captured the stdout and
stderr of make (for the custom kernel) in different files. Can i send them
to the list togrther with the kernel config file?

Thanx a lot.

Bernie


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Re: 4.5-PRERELEASE (25 Dec) and IBM IC35L040AVER07-0

2001-12-29 Thread Bill Moran

Eugene Grosbein wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 09:11:07AM +0100, Blaz Zupan wrote:
 
 
You do not use tags, do you?

The default is off I believe and I have not explicitely turned them on, so
yes, I'm not using them.

 
 Those errors were 100% reproducible.
 Now I've commented out 'hw.ata.tags=1' from /boot/loader.conf
 and all errors have disappeared.
 
 I still wonder if it software or hardware incompatibility.

So do I. See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/29045
Nobody responded to my last post on this pr, and I have no idea
where to go from here without direction. This level of technical
debugging is quite beyond me at this time. But the problem still
exists, it happened again earlier this week (even with the drives
throttled to ata33). What kind of HDD are you using? Personally,
I suspect HW problems, and I seem to recall a few months ago,
someone else with IBM HDDs complaining about the same thing. Have
there been any patches to the ata code that could affect this? If
so, I'll update this machine and see if it continues to be a problem.

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Re: Size of / partition?

2001-12-29 Thread ian j hart

David Reid wrote:
 
 Just cvsup'd to stable and I've almost run out of room on /!  How big should
 I create it when I reinstall as I now don't have enough to do another build.
 
 bash-2.04$ df -k
 Filesystem  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s2a 4958344564 105398%/
 /dev/ad0s2f   2646093  1830324   60408275%/usr
 /dev/ad0s2e 19815 82121001845%/var
 procfs  440   100%/proc
 
 david
 
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Here's my 0.02 euro

(IDE) disk space is very cheap.
dump, repartition and restore is a right royal PITA.
FreeBSD systems are long lived.

So pick a number and double it. I've been using
256Mb for some time. A minimal install will just
fit in 128Mb, at least last time I checked. This
gives you an alternative to the live file system
CD if your disk gets trashed, and you want to
attempt a repair.

I usually do my vinum systems this way.

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Re: 4.5-PRERELEASE -- Pobs in compiling custom kernel

2001-12-29 Thread Bill Moran

Bernie wrote:
 1. Is this the right list for this kind of stuff? or should i post in
 freebsd-questions instead?

Not unless you've determined that it only occurs with -STABLE. Otherwise,
you should post to freebsd-questions.

 2. Is it ok to send attachment on lists? i have captured the stdout and
 stderr of make (for the custom kernel) in different files. Can i send them
 to the list togrther with the kernel config file?

That's not good practice. Post snippits of the output that you think are
important, and if someone asks you for the entire capture, send it to
that person only. Sending large messages to the list will generally not
be received well.

 Thanx a lot.

Thanks for being curteous enough to check before posting :)

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Re: weekly run output contains invalid compressed data--crc error

2001-12-29 Thread Dominic Marks

On Saturday 29 December 2001 3:57 pm, Dan Langille wrote:
 Any ideas as to why I'm getting these invalid compressed data--crc
 error messages during the weekly run?

 --- Forwarded message follows ---
 Date sent:Sat, 29 Dec 2001 04:15:48 -0500 (EST)
 From: Charlie Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  undef.example.org weekly run output

 Cleaning up kernel database files:

 Rebuilding locate database:

 Rebuilding whatis database:

 gzcat: /usr/share/man/man1/date.1.gz: invalid compressed data--crc
 error

 gzcat: /usr/share/man/man1/lint.1.gz: invalid compressed
 data--format violated

 gzcat: /usr/share/man/man2/getpgrp.2.gz: invalid compressed
 data--crc error

 gzcat: /usr/share/man/man3/strchr.3.gz: invalid compressed
 data--crc error

 --- End of forwarded message ---

Hey Dan,

Have you tried rebuilding that systems man pages?

# cd /usr/src/share/man/  make clean all install

That may fix it, or did you perhaps set any of these variables in 
your /etc/make.conf:

 NOSHARE
 NOMANCOMPRESS

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Re: Art work

2001-12-29 Thread Nevermind

Hello, Chad R. Larson!

On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 11:15:30PM -0700, you wrote:

 I got my 4.4-RELEASE CD-ROMs via UPS today.
 
 I'm thinking about making a clone of them to take to work.  My CD
 duplicating software can generate labels for the CDs, and inserts
 for jewel cases.  Rather than scan them, are they available
 somewhere for download?
You can find out when 2.2.8 came out and cvsup with RELENG_2_2 with 1
day before, and you will get 2.2.7-STABLE.

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birda port (was Re: Some questions concerning Thinkpad T20)

2001-12-29 Thread Brandon S. Allbery

On Sat, 2001-12-29 at 08:44, Benno Rice wrote:
 NetBSD has a userland IrDA stack in their pkgsrc (read ports) collection.

Attached find a very preliminary attempt at a FreeBSD port for it; I
haven't yet completed a hotsync with my Visor, but it at least started
to sync properly and the failure was more likely due to the IR ports not
being aligned properly (major jury-rig...).

The tarball expects to be unpacked in /usr/ports.

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Re: Yahoo! and FreeBSD Article

2001-12-29 Thread Nevermind

Hello, Muhannad Asfour!

On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:21:38PM -0500, you wrote:

 I seem to have found something even better.  A PDF version of this article mirrored 
at sunsite.dk.  If anyone else was looking for this article here is the URL: 
 
 http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/freebsd/doc/newsletter/issue1.pdf
A friend of mine is working for Yahoo! Inc., I'll ask him if he has an
article there. If so, I'll post the link to it here.

Yahoo! rocks!

P.S. Happy new year to all.
P.P.S. Save god all freebsd commiters and developers.
P.P.P.S. Kris (Kennaway) I didn't expected that you are skin-head :)
Just saw your photos on bbq :)
Cc:-ing to -chat

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