Re: Current testing strategy - a request for information

2002-11-23 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 09:30:01AM -0600, Mark Johnston wrote:
 
 Thanks for testing -CURRENT!
 
Well I guess I will end up using it one day for *real*.
It looks like some pretty radical changes heve been made..

Testing before Complaining

There's a motto for you :)

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Re: make release broken (touch: not found)

2002-11-23 Thread Andrew
Well thanks for all your help - I can now build successfully. I'm not sure
exactly what the cause was or for that matter exactly how it was fixed but
I think it was something to do with me building world again (though it had
been done once already) before make releaseing. If I can ever reproduce
the problem again I'll carefully write down everything i do as I try it
:-)

For all those who asked, yes, my clock was fine - but thanks for the
suggestion.

Thanks again for your help,

Andrew



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Re: make release broken (touch: not found)

2002-11-23 Thread Antony Mawer
Andrew wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to make release for 4.7-RELEASE-p2 and it is failing with
'touch: not found (errors below). I found someone with a similar problem
in the archives
(http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=243803+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-stable/20021027.freebsd-stable)
but from the follow up they seem to indicate the problem has gone away but
I am still getting it.

I have to admit I can't even see where touch is called...


Have you done a cd /usr/src  make buildworld first? I ran into this 
about 24hrs ago, as it seems 'make release' expects a 'make buildworld' 
to have been executed prior to execution. It then installs into the 
chroot'd directory and starts its work from there!

-Antony



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Re: nvidia tv-out

2002-11-23 Thread Martin Gumucio
Im using a composite cable (not s-video) and an adapter to plug it to scart. It was 
actually plugged into a VCR, but i got the same problems when connecting it directly 
to the TV.

I guess the horz sync freq's are wrong, but 30-50, (from the nvidia docs) is about 
the only thing that works even a little. What freq's work for you?

Thanks for your help!
// Martin Gumucio

On 22 Nov 2002 09:20:23 +1030
Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 02:16, Martin Gumucio wrote:
  I have almost been successful at getting the tv-out from my nvidia card to work.  
The picture is there but it skips around horisontally. The skipping seems to get 
worse when playing movies (as opposed to just displaying my desktop) and when there 
is a lot of bright areas in the picture.
 
 Could it be Macrovision?
 That screws with the sync pulses - are you displaying it through a VCR
 or anything?
 
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Re: Port INDEX dependency list incompletes

2002-11-23 Thread Kent Stewart


Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote:

a wrote:


On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 17:30:04 +0200
Lefteris Tsintjelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



OK, I re-CVSup and the only thing that was different was the INDEX.
I try to rebuild the INDEX database and this time I get different
dependency list incompletes. What is going? Can someone please
explain? Should I re-CVSup again and see what happens? :-)


Well, i had these error a while ago. I did not care about them. Someday the errors where gone. And,
after a while, the came back. 
So, now i have also errors like yours, and i have installed 261 ports and all of them are working. 


I guess there is a small chance for this to happen, but that
depends on the port and the missing dependencies list.



So you have cvsup the base system? Did you also cvsup the ports?



I cvsup everuthing, but I don't think port dependencies have much to do
with the core system in this case.

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You can't use portsdb -U right now. You have to

cd /usr/ports
make index
portsdb -u

Kent

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RAID performance problems

2002-11-23 Thread Pete French
I wonder if anyone can shed any light on the following, as I am
starting to come to the conclusion that its possibly some BSD driver
issue.

I have been testing the performance of the various drives on my system
using bonnie, just out of curiosity. The system has 3 different drives on
it:

1) a 15k RPM drive attached directly to an Adaptec SCSI controller
2) a RAID-1 mirrored pair of 10k RPS drives
3) a RAID-5 set of 5 7200 RPM drives

All SCSI buses are 40MB/sec. Both the RAID drives are being run from the
same Compaq 4200 RAID controller. Both the RAID controller and the Adaptec
SCSI card are on the same PCI bus.

So, what I expected was that the driect drive would be fastest, followed by
the RAID-1, then the RAID-5 (at least as far as write performance goes)

The actual results are that both the RAID drives have identical performance!
The direct drive is 4 times faster than these.

This was a bit of a shock to me. Especially ater all the effort of utting
in thr 10k RPM drives to try and speed that disc up. The obvious conclusion
is that somewhere there is some component common to both RAID drives which is
limiting the performance.

The bottleneck cannot be the PCI bus to the card as the direct drive is
shifting 4 times the data on the same bus. It also cannot be the SCSI
bus to the drives by my reasoning - even assuming that the controller 
aggregates the writes so that RAID-5 and RAID-1 are taking the same bandwidth
on the bus (which is necessary if they are to perform the same with the bus
being the bottleneck right?) then the bus is operating 4x slower than the
direct bus. The Compaq card supports 40MB/s bus speeds according to
the documentation - plus the bus is terminated correctly as plugging the array
into the SCSI card shows all the drives up as 40MB/s

So I'm left with one of two conclusions

a) This is a limitation in the processing power of the RAID card. This seems
   very unlikely - the work needed to be done by the controller for RAID-1
   is far less than that which needs to be done for RAID-5 (it would take a
   complete muppet to design a controller where this wasnt the case wouldnt
   it ?) and this is one of Compaq's meatier controllers afer all.

b) This is some strange limitation in the speed at which FreeBSD's device
   driver for Compaq controllers can talk to the actual device.

Its the fact that I have arrived at conclusion b) as a possibility that makes
me ask on here. Does anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ? I know
there are people around who can argue at great length about RAID performance
after all :-)

-pcf. [puzzled]

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Re: nvidia tv-out

2002-11-23 Thread Warner, Michael - Contractor

Could it be an issue with something being set between NTSC vs. PAL?

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Re: Port INDEX dependency list incompletes

2002-11-23 Thread Lefteris Tsintjelis
Kent Stewart wrote:
 
 You can't use portsdb -U right now. You have to
 
 cd /usr/ports
 make index
 portsdb -u

OK, Thanks Kent.

 Kent
 
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Re: Port INDEX dependency list incompletes

2002-11-23 Thread Lefteris Tsintjelis
Kent Stewart wrote:
 
 cd /usr/ports
 make index
 portsdb -u

I get almost always dependency list incompletes with portsdb -Uu.
Would it be a good idea to always use the above instead?

Lefteris

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Re: Port INDEX dependency list incompletes

2002-11-23 Thread Kent Stewart


Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote:

Kent Stewart wrote:


cd /usr/ports
make index
portsdb -u



I get almost always dependency list incompletes with portsdb -Uu.
Would it be a good idea to always use the above instead?


No, because portsdb -U uses much less computer time to rebuild INDEX 
than make index does. On my AMD 2000+ XP, which is designed to do 20 
minute buildworlds, a portsdb -U requires ~7 minutes and a make index 
requires ~11 minutes. If you are going to work on your ports, the 
extra time is time you just sit there. I find people go into their own 
version of an idle-loop after 2 minutes.

We just have to wait for knu to fix it.

KEnt

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Re: Opera for FreeBSD

2002-11-23 Thread Peter Losher
(Apologies for the late response, but I wanted to get this answer in the 
archives, and I am now catching up on my -stable mail...)

On Monday 04 November 2002 12:03 pm, Dave Cantrell wrote:

 Yeah, but if you *bought* the linux license to run under emulation, you
 still have to *buy* the FreeBSD license, now that they finally got it
 native.  For me, I'm switching to konqui (KDE).

A clarification, like you I have a Linux license (as well as a Windows; I 
really do like Opera)  What I did is upgrade the license for US$15 to 
convert my Linux license to FreeBSD.  Since I have had my Linux license 
for over a year, paying $15 for letting Opera know I use FreeBSD and will 
support Opera natively on FreeBSD is good value for money, IMO.

Hopefully soon there will be a opera-sharedqt port, since I use KDE, I can 
take advantage of the AA support I have compiled into my QT install, and 
makes Opera look just as good as the rest of my KDE setup :) (I still use 
Konq for my IPv6 web browsing, so it still has a use) ;)

Best Wishes - Peter
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Re: named.root

2002-11-23 Thread Tim Wilde
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Thomas Seck wrote:

 No one is kept from modifying his or her local copy of FreeBSD to suit
 his resp. her needs. I do not think that Network Solutions will assign
 198.41.0.10 tomorrow to $evil_person for $most_evil_purpose but YMMV.

They have explicitly stated, in fact, that it will continue providing root
DNS service for at least 5 years.

Tim Wilde

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