Re: Adventurous fix for wheel mouse not working in FreeBSD 6.0

2005-12-07 Thread Adrian

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:03:19 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

After installing FreeBSD 6.0, I was no longer able to scroll using the  
wheel on my Logitech Optical Mouse.  I ran moused with the -fd flags and  
confirmed that the  mouse daemon was catching the z-axis events.  My  
xorg.conf looked OK to me:


Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  AlwaysCore
Option  Protocol Auto
Option  Buttons 5
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

I struggled for days and tried dozens of things.  I came to suspect that  
the
problem was related to changes in the way ZAxisMapping is handled by  
Xorg.  Based on stuff in an Xorg mailing list, I suspect further  
changes, likely  to be corrective, will be in future versions of the  
FreeBSD xorg-server port.


However, for the adventurous and impatient, this is what I did to fix my  
problem:


1.  Edit  
/usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/input/mouse/mouse.c

and change from NULL to 4 5 in the following line:

530c530
 s = xf86SetStrOption(pInfo-options, ZAxisMapping, 4 5);
---

s = xf86SetStrOption(pInfo-options, ZAxisMapping, NULL);


2.  portupgrade -Wwf xorg-server

3.  Restart the X server with CTRL-ALT-Backspace.

I don't really know why it works, so I recommend it only for daredevils,  
unless someone wiser can say it is sound.


Cheers,

John


Funny, besides upgrading from 5.4 to 6.0, I changed from nVidia to Radeon  
and from a bloated old mouse to a Logitech Optical USB mouse.


Anyway, the video cards were easy to change. But the mouse was tricky.

The generic /dev/sysmouse didn't work for me so i had to specify /dev/ums0  
and ZAxisMapping 4 5 and the rest was history.


I don't use xdm/gdm/kdm though, i have startx with kde for now. And  
sometimes i have to kill the moused daeomn before starting X.


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Re: Adventurous fix for wheel mouse not working in FreeBSD 6.0

2005-12-07 Thread Yann Golanski
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 07:03:19 +
 After installing FreeBSD 6.0, I was no longer able to scroll using the
 wheel on my Logitech Optical Mouse.  I ran moused with the -fd flags
 and confirmed that the  mouse daemon was catching the z-axis events.
 My xorg.conf looked OK to me:

The following works fine with a Logitech UltraX optical mouse.
However, I have using it in PS2 mode and not usb.  Maybe the problem is
there?

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
option  Buttons 6
EndSection

I am running: 
; uname -a
FreeBSD hovel.york.ac.uk 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sun Oct  9
20:32:57 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 i386
; pkg_info | grep xorg
xorg-clients-6.8.2_1 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.8.2 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from
X.Org
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.8.2 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.8.2 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.8.2 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.8.2 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.8.2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.8.2 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-server-6.8.2_7 X.Org X server and related programs


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Re: Adventurous fix for wheel mouse not working in FreeBSD 6.0

2005-12-07 Thread Android

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:29:49 +0200, Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 07:03:19 +

After installing FreeBSD 6.0, I was no longer able to scroll using the
wheel on my Logitech Optical Mouse.  I ran moused with the -fd flags
and confirmed that the  mouse daemon was catching the z-axis events.
My xorg.conf looked OK to me:


The following works fine with a Logitech UltraX optical mouse.
However, I have using it in PS2 mode and not usb.  Maybe the problem is
there?

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
option  Buttons 6
EndSection

I am running:
; uname -a
FreeBSD hovel.york.ac.uk 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sun Oct  9
20:32:57 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 i386
; pkg_info | grep xorg
xorg-clients-6.8.2_1 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.8.2 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from
X.Org
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.8.2 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.8.2 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.8.2 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.8.2 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.8.2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.8.2 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-server-6.8.2_7 X.Org X server and related programs




It's works for me:
Logitech UltraX optical mouse, USB-mode

dmesg:
ums0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/20.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1
ums0: 4 buttons and Z dir.

xorg.conf:
...
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolAuto
Option Device  /dev/sysmouse
Option  Buttons   6
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

uname -a:
FreeBSD callisto 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #4: Sat Dec  3 12:07:10 EET  
2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/callisto  amd64


pkg_info | grep  xorg
xorg-6.8.2  X.Org distribution metaport
xorg-clients-6.8.2_1 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.8.2 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.8.2 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.8.2 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.8.2 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.8.2 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.8.2 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.8.2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.8.2 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-nestserver-6.8.2 Nesting X server from X.Org
xorg-printserver-6.8.2_2 X Print server from X.Org
xorg-server-6.8.2_7 X.Org X server and related programs
xorg-vfbserver-6.8.2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org

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ipf - freebsd 5.x and 6.x hangs

2005-12-07 Thread Todor Dragnev
Hello,

Yesterday, when I looking for solution that can replace following command from 
linux: 

ip route add default via x.x.x.x src y.y.y.y

So I tried with ipf and execute following rule, (yes this is silly):

--
pass out quick on rl0 to rl0:y.y.y.y from x.x.x.x to any keep state
--

On rl0 I have 2 IP addresses: x.x.x.x and alias for y.y.y.y

All freebsd boxes hangs after 20 seconds whitout notice.
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Re: 6.0-stable panic in ohci_softintr when using ucom/uftdi

2005-12-07 Thread Ian Dowse
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Koch writes:
As soon at the modem rings, the machine panics.  I don't think the
modem even gets time to pick up the line.  This doesn't happen on 
a 5.4-stable box with 6 modems connected, but 5.4-stable appears 
to have other hanging issues, thus why I am trying out 6.0-stable.

Recent changes to ohci.c (1.154.2.1) in this area (2 days ago) ??
Should I raise a PR ?

I'll see if I can reproduce this later - the only thing I can think
of now that might be responsible is a USB transfer reuse issue that
the old patch here might help with:

http://people.freebsd.org/~iedowse/releng_5_xfer_reuse.diff

Could you see if that makes any difference? It should apply to
6-stable even though the name says releng_5.

Ian

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Re: 6.0-stable panic in ohci_softintr when using ucom/uftdi

2005-12-07 Thread Paul Koch
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:02 pm, Ian Dowse wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Koch 
writes:
 As soon at the modem rings, the machine panics.  I don't think the
 modem even gets time to pick up the line.  This doesn't happen on
 a 5.4-stable box with 6 modems connected, but 5.4-stable appears
 to have other hanging issues, thus why I am trying out 6.0-stable.
 
 Recent changes to ohci.c (1.154.2.1) in this area (2 days ago) ??
 Should I raise a PR ?

 I'll see if I can reproduce this later - the only thing I can think
 of now that might be responsible is a USB transfer reuse issue that
 the old patch here might help with:

   http://people.freebsd.org/~iedowse/releng_5_xfer_reuse.diff

 Could you see if that makes any difference? It should apply to
 6-stable even though the name says releng_5.

 Ian

I'll try it tomorrow morning when I get back to the office.

I compiled in USB_DEBUG and set all the usb debug sysctl's to 100 and 
made it crash again. It is reproduceable 100% of the time.  Are you 
interested in seeing the verbose debug log messages at all ?

Paul. 
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Re: cpu-timer rate

2005-12-07 Thread Ed
I certainly do not have a full understanding of the interactions between the 
various FreeBSD software timers and i386 hardware clocks, but I do know this 
is not the first time we've seen a problem with the APIC/ACPI timers/clocks.


See here:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=643512+646009+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20051120.freebsd-stable

And workaround, here:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=687445+690193+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20051120.freebsd-stable

I haven't made much of a fuss, since my vmware FreeBSD works just fine so 
long as I disable the APIC (not ACPI) device.  I was guessing there was some 
assumption about relative rates gumming things up for vmware (the hardware 
APIC (not ACPI) timer runs at memory bus speed, not cpu speed, and thus will 
get goofed if you assume straight/DDR/quad/whatever memory-- from what I 
gather, you need to check it against a known-hz device, e.g. the PIT/i8253 
clock).


My complacency, however, is probably misguided, as the release notes for 6.0 
clearly sate that FreeBSD always uses the local APIC timer even on 
uni-processor systems now, and will presumably continue to do so for the 
forseeable future.


There is a nice layman's overview of  various i386 hardware clock devices 
here:

http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf

Again, I'm no expert, but clock problems do keep cropping up here on 
the -STABLE list, and the explanations for them to date have not been 
consistent.  This leads me to believe that the FreeBSD kernel clock/timer 
code is not well-understood by any one developer who monitors this list; I'm 
sure I'm not the only end-user who would appreciate it if the core team 
would look into this and post some information that would explain the 
various clock/timer problems that odd corners of the user community have 
been reporting.



- Original Message - 
From: Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Matthew D. Fuller 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: cpu-timer rate



On Mon, 2005-Dec-05 10:15:52 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:42:08AM +0100 I heard the voice of
kama, and lo! it spake thus:

 I appreciate that you took time to answer about the different
 clocks. But that does not answer why vmstat -i shows a rate of 2000
 when I have set the hz to 1000.

Because the rate is always twice hz.


While I will concede that I have no explanation, but on all of my systems
rate = HZ +/-1. I have never seen a case where rate/2 = HZ.


Basically, it depends on what clock(s) your kernel is using.

Traditionally, FreeBSD/i386 uses the one of the i8254 counters to
generate hz (on irq0) and the RTC to generate profhz/stathz (on irq8).
In this case, the rate on those interrupts should match the values
reported by kern.clockrate.  On SMP machines, this approach is fairly
expensive because the interrupts need to be forwarded to all CPUs
using IPIs.

In early February, jhb implemented an alternative approach using the
local APIC clock (sys/i386/i386/local_apic.c v1.13 and other files).
Since every CPU has a LAPIC, every CPU gets its own clock interrupts
without needing IPIs.  The downside is that there's only a single
LAPIC so a single hardware clock interrupt needs to generate separate
(and independent) hz/tick and stathz/profhz clocks.

Since the clocks need to be independent (to make process statistics
meaningful), this implies that the hardware (LAPIC) clock (cpu0) needs
to be faster than hz.  The original commit ran LAPIC at hz*3 but this
was later changed to hz*2 to reduce overheads.

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Will Robinson and all another

2005-12-07 Thread GreenX

   Hi PPL!

   I have a computer with parent payment ASUS P4C800E-DELUXE.

   OS FreeBSD 6.0-stable (CVS from 21.nov.2005) is established.

   It is established five hard disks:

   - One system on ICH5 ata100 Maxtor 6Y200P0

   - And four on Promise RAID 0+1 WDC WD3200J (D/B)

   All fine worked (except for em0, but also he has normally earned after
   updating)

   while I have not wanted to establish two more hard disks (Maxtor
   6Y080M0) on Intel in Stripe RAID.

   Hard disks have been put - the system of them has found out

   (the truth and known all bug failed to enable memory mapping),

   and I with them was more did than nothing (did not format, did not
   break - there was no time).

   In three days of job the system has given out me the following:

   ad4: req=0xc630f190 SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE semaphore timeout!!
   DANGER Will Robinson!!

   This warning has been given many times.

   And ad4 it is established on Promise!

   After reboot smartd has given out the warning

   smartd [767]: Device:/dev/ad10, 1 Currently unreadable (pending)
   sectors

   smartd [767]: Device:/dev/ad10, 26 Offline uncorrectable sectors

   (ad10 the first disk in Stripe RAID on Intel MATRIX)

   After that has made CVSUP and has put for the night rebuild the world.

   In the morning has seen - to warrning

   ad4: req=0xc90efd48 SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE semaphore timeout!!
   DANGER Will Robinson!!

   It was added:

   kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 100, please see tuning (7).

   Has install the world, has spat and has disconnected these both HDDs
   from the controller

   (itself Matrix has remained switched on)

   Has passed three more days and yesterday has received the new letter:)

   kernel: DOH! ata_alloc_request failed!

   kernel: FAILURE - out of memory in ata_raid_init_request

   last message repeated 4 times

   kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081878016,
   length=49152)] error = 5

   kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081730560,
   length=12288)] error = 5

   kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554082091008,
   length=65536)] error = 5

   kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081927168,
   length=16384)] error = 5

   kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081943552,
   length=16384)] error = 5

   syslogd: kernel boot file is/boot/kernel/kernel

   kernel: panic: kmem_malloc (4096): kmem_map too small: 172470272 total
   allocated

   Then has switched off also the controller, has again updated system
   and I wait some more days:)

   Immemorial Russian question - what to make?,

   I think here it is inappropriate, and so all is clear

   Remarks on system: it is switched on HHT (ACPI, SMP) and DEVICE
   POLLING,

   the network interface em0 and Intel Matrix, both stand on one irq.

   
   

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Re: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

2005-12-07 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 02:47 am, Yuri Khotyaintsev wrote:
 On Friday 02 December 2005 14.54, John Baldwin wrote:
  On Friday 02 December 2005 05:00 am, Yuri Khotyaintsev wrote:
   I have the following panic occurring several times a week. The machine
   is an NFS server, and it usually panics early in the morning, when
   first people try to access it. After reboot it may work OK for 1-2
   days, and then panics again. I have tried changing memory and replacing
   disk which was exported via NFS, but nothing helped :(
  
   Any suggestion on how to fix this panic will be very much appreciated !
 
  This panic (in propagate_priority) is usually caused when a thread goes
  to sleep while holding a mutex (which is forbidden).  If you enable
  INVARIANTS and/or WITNESS you should get a better panic, and with WITNESS
  you will even be warned when a thread goes to sleep while holding a
  mutex.  However, these options do introduce considerable execution
  overhead, and sometimes that overhead changes the timing enough to hide
  the race. :(

 Here are the two panics which I got with INVARIANTS and WITNESS enabled.

 Unread portion of the kernel message buffer:
 Memory modified after free 0xc4759e00(508) val=0 @ 0xc4759e00
 panic: Most recently used by UFS dirhash

Well, this isn't the panic I was expecting, but it points to something 
trashing free'd memory via a stale pointer or some such.  You might be able 
to use MEMGUARD to track this down.

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Can't boot RELEASE-6.0 on ASUS P4S800D-X

2005-12-07 Thread Einstein Oliveira

Hi,

I'm using the RELEASE-5.4 without any problem, but the RELEASE-6.0 CD 
boot stops just before the ad4: message.



This is the output of dmesg on 5.4:

 begin 
Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 #0: Fri Dec  2 16:30:38 BRST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ME
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.81-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf34  Stepping = 4

Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 1073414144 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1045049344 (996 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: A M I OEMXSDT on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: SiS 655 host to AGP bridge mem 0xf800-0xfbff at device 
0.0 on pci0

pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 2.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: SiS 964 UDMA133 controller port 
0xffa0-0xffaf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0

ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
pcm0: SiS 7012 port 0xec00-0xec7f,0xe800-0xe8ff irq 18 at device 2.7 
on pci0

pcm0: Analog Devices AD1888 AC97 Codec
ohci0: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfc000-0xfebfcfff irq 20 at 
device 3.0 on pci0

usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfd000-0xfebfdfff irq 21 at 
device 3.1 on pci0

usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb1: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci2: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfe000-0xfebfefff irq 22 at 
device 3.2 on pci0

usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb2: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: serial bus, USB at device 3.3 (no driver attached)
sis0: SiS 900 10/100BaseTX port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 
0xfebfb000-0xfebfbfff irq 19 at device 4.0 on pci0

miibus0: MII bus on sis0
rlphy0: RTL8201L 10/100 media interface on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
sis0: Ethernet address: 00:11:d8:d5:86:54
atapci1: SiS 964 SATA150 controller port 
0xef90-0xef9f,0xefe0-0xefe3,0xefa8-0xefaf,0xefe4-0xefe7,0xeff0-0xeff7 
irq 17 at device 5.0 on pci0

ata2: channel #0 on atapci1
ata3: channel #1 on atapci1
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
fdc0: floppy drive controller (FDE) port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 
on acpi0

fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0: Standard parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on 
acpi0

sio0: type 16550A
orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xcf000-0xd6fff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
ums0: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
Timecounter TSC frequency 2800810684 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
acd0: CDRW HL-DT-ST GCE-8520B/1.02 at ata1-master PIO4
ad4: 190782MB ST3200822AS/3.01 [387621/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a
 end 


When it boots with 6.0 CD in verbose mode the following messages appears 
just before lock-up:


 begin 
ata2: reiniting channel ..

permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

2005-12-07 Thread Oleg Palij
Approximately once per month or two this server panics.
We use it for InterSystems Cache` (under linux emulation) and as samba-server 
(not heavy-loaded).

# dmesg -a 
can be found at http://www.dp.uz.gov.ua/dmesg.isc-cache
kernel config - http://www.dp.uz.gov.ua/kernel.isc-cache

# uname -a
FreeBSD isc-cache.dp.uz.gov.ua 5.4-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p4 #1: Fri 
Nov  4 11:37:34 EET 2005 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ISC-CACHE_KERNEL  i386

# kgdb kernel.debug_5.4-p4_2005-11-04 vmcore.6 
[GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: 
Undefined symbol ps_pglobal_lookup]
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:159
159 pcpu.h: No such file or directory.
in pcpu.h
(kgdb) where
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:159
#1  0xc050a102 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:410
#2  0xc050a3c8 in panic (fmt=0xc0656ebc %s) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:566
#3  0xc063ca14 in trap_fatal (frame=0xcbe69ae4, eva=0) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:817
#4  0xc063c141 in trap (frame=
  {tf_fs = 24, tf_es = -1061093360, tf_ds = -1050869744, tf_edi = 
-1052353024, tf_esi = -1053737324, tf_ebp = -874079452, tf_isp = -874079472, 
tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = -1057524608, tf_ecx = -1053737324, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 
12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1068333178, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 65606, tf_esp = 
-874079428, tf_ss = -1068492228}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:255
#5  0xc062f0fa in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140
#6  0x0018 in ?? ()
#7  0xc0c10010 in ?? ()
#8  0xc15d0010 in ?? ()
#9  0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
#10 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
#11 0xcbe69b24 in ?? ()
#12 0xcbe69b10 in ?? ()
#13 0x in ?? ()
#14 0xc0f77480 in ?? ()
#15 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
#16 0x in ?? ()
#17 0x000c in ?? ()
#18 0x in ?? ()
#19 0xc0528786 in turnstile_head (ts=0x0) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c:763
#20 0xc0501a3c in _mtx_unlock_sleep (m=0xc1313e94, opts=0, 
file=0xc1db7ec2 /usr/src/sys/modules/smbfs/../../netsmb/smb_iod.c, 
line=97)
at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:659
#21 0xc050188a in _mtx_unlock_flags (m=0x0, opts=0, 
file=0xc1db7ec2 /usr/src/sys/modules/smbfs/../../netsmb/smb_iod.c, 
line=97)
at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:364
#22 0xc1dabe27 in ?? ()
#23 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
#24 0x in ?? ()
#25 0xc1db7ec2 in ?? ()
#26 0x0061 in ?? ()
#27 0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
#28 0xc1a14800 in ?? ()
#29 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
---Type return to continue, or q return to quit--- 
#30 0xcbe69b8c in ?? ()
#31 0xc1dabef6 in ?? ()
#32 0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
#33 0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
#34 0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
#35 0xcbe69ba4 in ?? ()
#36 0xc1dac766 in ?? ()
#37 0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
#38 0xc19abe00 in ?? ()
#39 0xc19abe88 in ?? ()
#40 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
#41 0xcbe69bbc in ?? ()
#42 0xc1daa261 in ?? ()
#43 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
#44 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
#45 0x in ?? ()
#46 0xc1a14800 in ?? ()
#47 0xcbe69bd4 in ?? ()
#48 0xc1daa202 in ?? ()
#49 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
#50 0xc1313e18 in ?? ()
#51 0xc19ff9e0 in ?? ()
#52 0xc1a14800 in ?? ()
#53 0xcbe69ce4 in ?? ()
#54 0xc1da8f12 in ?? ()
#55 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
#56 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
#57 0xc1313e18 in ?? ()
#58 0xc1a14800 in ?? ()
#59 0xc1db7cd9 in ?? ()
#60 0x in ?? ()
#61 0x in ?? ()
#62 0x0001 in ?? ()
#63 0x in ?? ()
#64 0x in ?? ()
#65 0xc1313e00 in ?? ()
#66 0xc1da79c3 in ?? ()
#67 0xc15da288 in ?? ()
---Type return to continue, or q return to quit---
#68 0x in ?? ()
#69 0xcbe69c30 in ?? ()
#70 0x in ?? ()
#71 0xcbe69c2c in ?? ()
#72 0xc0519e6a in sched_choose () at /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:1137
Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)

What additional information can I provide?

Thanks!
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Re: Help - vr0: rx packet loss on new 6.0 kernel

2005-12-07 Thread Vizion
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 22:57,  the author [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
contributed to the dialogue on-
 Help - vr0: rx packet loss on new 6.0 kernel: 


vr0: rx packet loss even on single user mode

On Wednesday 07 December 2005 04:36,  the author Randy Rowe contributed to the 
dialogue on-
 Re: Help - vr0: rx packet loss on new 6.0 kernel: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/12/06 Tue PM 11:23:18 PST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Re: Help - vr0: rx packet loss on new 6.0 kernel

OK booted on the old kernel back to 5.4
Does anyone have any idea what may have caused the problem?
Thanks

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/12/06 Tue PM 11:13:31 PST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Help - vr0: rx packet loss on new 6.0 kernel

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/12/06 Tue PM 10:57:44 PST
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Help - vr0: rx packet loss on new 6.0 kernel

Just upgraded from 5.4 6.0 and am getting
vr0: rx packet loss even on single user mode


I'm no expert but it sounds to me like your world and your kernel are
not in sync.
I'm not sure if a 5.4 kernel can run properly with a 6.0 world and so it
could be that you still have a 5.4 world.

Just my first guess. You might want to follow up with the steps that you
used to move from 5.4 to 6.0.

Thanks
You may be right --
Well I booted up from kernel.old -- moved the new kernel to kernel.faulty 
chuckles and kernel.old to kernel, rebooted and came right up on 5.4.
Here are the entries re vro in dmesg.boot on the 5.4 kernel:

vr0: VIA VT6102 Rhine II 10/100BaseTX port 0xc400-0xc4ff mem 
0xde016000-0xde0160ff irq 23 at device 18.0 on pci0
miibus0: MII bus on vr0
ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
vr0: Ethernet address: 00:50:8d:6e:9d:31

The repeated messages vr0: packet loss
just took over the system.

Here are the boot sequences

Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec  6 22:00:00 PST 
2005
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 
0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP (1593.54-MHz 686-class 
CPU)
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x6a0  Stepping = 0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: 
Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: AMD 
Features=0xc0480800SYSCALL,MP,MMX+,3DNow+,3DNow
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: real memory  = 2080309248 (1983 MB)
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: avail memory = 2030624768 (1936 MB)
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: ACPI APIC Table: KM400A AWRDACPI
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: ioapic0 Version 0.3 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: npx0: [FAST]
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: npx0: math processor on motherboard
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: acpi0: KM400A AWRDACPI on motherboard
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz 
quality 1000
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 
0x4008-0x400b on acpi0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on 
acpi0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: agp0: VIA 8235/8237 (Apollo KM400/KM400A) host 
to PCI bridge mem 0xd000-0xd7ff at device 0.0 on pci0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver 
attached)
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: pci0: network, ethernet at device 9.0 (no 
driver attached)
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwohci0: Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 mem 
0xde014000-0xde0147ff,0xde01-0xde013fff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1)
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwohci0: EUI64 00:d0:03:56:00:b2:b7:e6
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports.
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:d0:03:b2:b7:e6
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:d0:03:b2:b7:e6
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: sbp0: SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire on firewire0
Dec  6 22:38:24 dns1 kernel: fwohci0: 

Problem with rlwrap and pty

2005-12-07 Thread Jonathon McKitrick

Hi all,

I've found in the archive that there is some problem with rlwrap, and I've
found the same thing... it has trouble opening a pty.

This seems to have been around for a while under 5.x, while 4.x doesn't have
the problem.

Is there a workaround?

jm
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Re: Can't boot RELEASE-6.0 on ASUS P4S800D-X

2005-12-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Einstein Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 I'm using the RELEASE-5.4 without any problem, but the RELEASE-6.0 CD
 boot stops just before the ad4: message.
 
 
 This is the output of dmesg on 5.4:
 
  begin 
 Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 #0: Fri Dec  2 16:30:38 BRST 2005
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ME
 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.81-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf34  Stepping = 4
  
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
 real memory  = 1073414144 (1023 MB)
 avail memory = 1045049344 (996 MB)
 ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 npx0: math processor on motherboard
 npx0: INT 16 interface
 acpi0: A M I OEMXSDT on motherboard
 acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0
 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
 agp0: SiS 655 host to AGP bridge mem 0xf800-0xfbff at device
 0.0 on pci0
 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
 pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 2.0 on pci0
 isa0: ISA bus on isab0
 atapci0: SiS 964 UDMA133 controller port
 0xffa0-0xffaf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0
 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
 pcm0: SiS 7012 port 0xec00-0xec7f,0xe800-0xe8ff irq 18 at device 2.7
 on pci0
 pcm0: Analog Devices AD1888 AC97 Codec
 ohci0: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfc000-0xfebfcfff irq 20 at
 device 3.0 on pci0
 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
 usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
 usb0: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci0
 usb0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
 ohci1: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfd000-0xfebfdfff irq 21 at
 device 3.1 on pci0
 usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
 usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
 usb1: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci1
 usb1: USB revision 1.0
 uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
 ohci2: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfe000-0xfebfefff irq 22 at
 device 3.2 on pci0
 usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
 usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting
 usb2: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci2
 usb2: USB revision 1.0
 uhub2: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 pci0: serial bus, USB at device 3.3 (no driver attached)
 sis0: SiS 900 10/100BaseTX port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem
 0xfebfb000-0xfebfbfff irq 19 at device 4.0 on pci0
 miibus0: MII bus on sis0
 rlphy0: RTL8201L 10/100 media interface on miibus0
 rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
 sis0: Ethernet address: 00:11:d8:d5:86:54
 atapci1: SiS 964 SATA150 controller port
 0xef90-0xef9f,0xefe0-0xefe3,0xefa8-0xefaf,0xefe4-0xefe7,0xeff0-0xeff7
 irq 17 at device 5.0 on pci0
 ata2: channel #0 on atapci1
 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1
 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 kbd0 at atkbd0
 fdc0: floppy drive controller (FDE) port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq
 2 on acpi0
 fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
 ppc0: Standard parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0
 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
 ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
 ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
 sio0: port may not be enabled
 sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10
 on acpi0
 sio0: type 16550A
 orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xcf000-0xd6fff on isa0
 pmtimer0 on isa0
 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
 sio1: port may not be enabled
 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
 ums0: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
 Timecounter TSC frequency 2800810684 Hz quality 800
 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
 acd0: CDRW HL-DT-ST GCE-8520B/1.02 at ata1-master PIO4
 ad4: 190782MB ST3200822AS/3.01 [387621/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150
 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a
  end 
 

Re: Can't boot RELEASE-6.0 on ASUS P4S800D-X

2005-12-07 Thread Einstein Oliveira
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Einstein Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
Hi,

I'm using the RELEASE-5.4 without any problem, but the RELEASE-6.0 CD
boot stops just before the ad4: message.


This is the output of dmesg on 5.4:

 begin 
Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 #0: Fri Dec  2 16:30:38 BRST 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ME
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2800.81-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf34  Stepping = 4
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 1073414144 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1045049344 (996 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: A M I OEMXSDT on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: SiS 655 host to AGP bridge mem 0xf800-0xfbff at device
0.0 on pci0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 2.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: SiS 964 UDMA133 controller port
0xffa0-0xffaf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0
ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
pcm0: SiS 7012 port 0xec00-0xec7f,0xe800-0xe8ff irq 18 at device 2.7
on pci0
pcm0: Analog Devices AD1888 AC97 Codec
ohci0: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfc000-0xfebfcfff irq 20 at
device 3.0 on pci0
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfd000-0xfebfdfff irq 21 at
device 3.1 on pci0
usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb1: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci2: SiS 5571 USB controller mem 0xfebfe000-0xfebfefff irq 22 at
device 3.2 on pci0
usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb2: SiS 5571 USB controller on ohci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: serial bus, USB at device 3.3 (no driver attached)
sis0: SiS 900 10/100BaseTX port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem
0xfebfb000-0xfebfbfff irq 19 at device 4.0 on pci0
miibus0: MII bus on sis0
rlphy0: RTL8201L 10/100 media interface on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
sis0: Ethernet address: 00:11:d8:d5:86:54
atapci1: SiS 964 SATA150 controller port
0xef90-0xef9f,0xefe0-0xefe3,0xefa8-0xefaf,0xefe4-0xefe7,0xeff0-0xeff7
irq 17 at device 5.0 on pci0
ata2: channel #0 on atapci1
ata3: channel #1 on atapci1
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
fdc0: floppy drive controller (FDE) port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq
2 on acpi0
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0: Standard parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10
on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xcf000-0xd6fff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
ums0: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
Timecounter TSC frequency 2800810684 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
acd0: CDRW HL-DT-ST GCE-8520B/1.02 at ata1-master PIO4
ad4: 190782MB ST3200822AS/3.01 [387621/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a
 end 


When it boots with 6.0 CD in verbose mode the following messages
appears just before 

Re: cpu-timer rate

2005-12-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Wed, 2005-Dec-07 03:51:47 -0800, Ed wrote:
I certainly do not have a full understanding of the interactions between 
the various FreeBSD software timers and i386 hardware clocks, but I do know 
this is not the first time we've seen a problem with the APIC/ACPI 
timers/clocks.

You have a totally different problem.  In your case the system is not
keeping correct time - this is because VMware does not provide stable
clock interrupts - probably due to interactions between VMware and the
host OS.  In kama's case, the interrupt rate reported by vmstat -i
does not match the numbers reported by kern.clockrate.  There is no
indication that the system is not keeping correct time.

Again, I'm no expert, but clock problems do keep cropping up here on 
the -STABLE list, and the explanations for them to date have not been 
consistent.

AFAIR, all the problems reported here have been related to VMware
clients.  And as someone stated VMware plays fast and loose with
clocks.

I'm sure I'm not the only end-user who would appreciate it if the core team 

This is nothing to do with the core team.

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Re: permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

2005-12-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Oleg Palij wrote:
 Approximately once per month or two this server panics.
 We use it for InterSystems Cache` (under linux emulation) and as samba-server 
 (not heavy-loaded).

 #5  0xc062f0fa in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140
 #6  0x0018 in ?? ()
 #7  0xc0c10010 in ?? ()
 #8  0xc15d0010 in ?? ()
 #9  0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
 #10 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
 #11 0xcbe69b24 in ?? ()
 #12 0xcbe69b10 in ?? ()
 #13 0x in ?? ()
 #14 0xc0f77480 in ?? ()
 #15 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
 #16 0x in ?? ()
 #17 0x000c in ?? ()
 #18 0x in ?? ()

Unfortunately this trace looks corrupted.  Are you building your kernel with 
-O2?

Kris


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Re: Upgrading 5.3 6.0 buildworld failure now in libmagic

2005-12-07 Thread Doug Barton

Vizion wrote:

Well I do not want to not thank those who have made the upgrades viable. The 
value of their work should not be underrated.


That's a step in the right direction, thanks. :)

There is however a perennial problem that freebsd documentation has always 
been seen as behind and seperate from the development process rather than an 
integral part of that process.


You're right, however that is just the way it is. Most of our really top 
notch developers are actually very bad at documenting their work (I don't 
mean bad at being timely with it, I mean that they are bad at DOING it), and 
frankly their time is better spent elsewhere. The documentation is light 
years ahead of where it was 11 years ago when I started using FreeBSD for 
one simple reason. Interested users stepped up and helped make it better. 
That's the only way that things improve in an open source project.


FWIW, I added a paragraph to the UPDATING file in both HEAD and RELENG_6 
that describes why updating to the latest code in the installed branch is a 
good idea before trying a major version upgrade. Hopefully that will help 
the next person who stumbles over this same issue.


Doug

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Copying kernel and OS

2005-12-07 Thread Jack Raats

I've two machines running FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE.
One very fast machine and one very very slow machine. On the fast machine I 
can compile a new kernel and OS very quickly and easily.
Is it possible to transfer the compile world and kernel to the slow machine. 
If yes whart directories etc... do i have to transfer.


Jack 


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Re: Adventurous fix for wheel mouse not working in FreeBSD 6.0

2005-12-07 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:29:49 +
Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Interesting discussion.
Does moused do scrolling in the console? I thought I had used that
feature, but now I can't get it to work. Anyway, more info below.

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 Option  Protocol auto
 Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
 Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
 option  Buttons 6
 EndSection

On my old machine (running 5.4-stable) the above (minus the ZAxisMapping
line) gives me scrolling in X (Xorg) as long as I have
moused_flags=-z4 in /etc/rc.conf
This works with both a PS/2 connected mouse, and one connected with USB.
The mice in question are:
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4
ums0: IBM Corporation product 0x310b, rev 2.00/1.10, addr 3, iclass 3/1
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.

and I do start moused manually for the usb mouse, like this:
moused -z4 -p /dev/ums0 -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid

(the reason for this is that 5.4 doesn't contain an  entry in
/etc/devd.conf to start moused when usb mice attaches)

this box runs the following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -a
FreeBSD kg-work.kg4.no 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #3: Fri Jul  8
14:26:44 CEST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SS51G 
i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pv | grep xorg-6
xorg-6.8.2  =  up-to-date with port
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pv | grep xorg-server
xorg-server-6.8.2_7 =  up-to-date with port

Then I tested on my amd64 machine, running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE:
(Note: I use the same physical mice!)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dmesg | grep psm
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dmesg | grep ums
ums0: vendor 0x04b3 product 0x310b, rev 2.00/1.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.

This machine has the complete InputDevice section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf,
like quoted above.
And scrolling does NOT work.
The amd64 machine runs:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -a
FreeBSD kg-quiet.kg4.no 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov  2
19:07:38 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
amd64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pv | grep xorg-6
xorg-6.8.2  =  up-to-date with port
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pv | grep xorg-server
xorg-server-6.8.99.903  =  up-to-date with port

So I test my laptop, which runs 6.0-stable:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uname -a
FreeBSD kg-jobbpc3.kg4.no 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Nov  6
01:33:12 CET 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/storage/usr/obj/storage/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
i386

This one is a ThinkPad T41, so it has a Synaptics, and in addition I
used the same usb mouse as with the others:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dmesg | grep psm
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dmesg | grep ums0
ums0: vendor 0x04b3 product 0x310b, rev 2.00/1.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.

and scrolling does NOT work here either.
The laptop runs 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pv | grep xorg-6
xorg-6.8.2  =  up-to-date with port
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pv | grep xorg-server
xorg-server-6.8.2_6   needs updating (port has 6.8.2_7)

I know that this report is a bit unorganzied, but doesn't the fact that
my 5.4-stable machine runs a newer version of the xorg-server port than
my 6.0-stable laptop indicate that the fault might be somewhere else
than in the xorg-server?
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Re: Upgrading 5.3 6.0 buildworld failure now in libmagic

2005-12-07 Thread Vizion
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 13:01,  the author Doug Barton contributed to 
the dialogue on-
 Re: Upgrading 5.3  6.0 buildworld failure now in libmagic: 

Vizion wrote:
 Well I do not want to not thank those who have made the upgrades viable.
 The value of their work should not be underrated.

That's a step in the right direction, thanks. :)

 There is however a perennial problem that freebsd documentation has always
 been seen as behind and seperate from the development process rather than
 an integral part of that process.

You're right, however that is just the way it is. 

Well having run many very large scale projects myself I  find it difficult to 
accept either implication of this perspective. The first implication is that 
we should be complacent about it and not seek to find a method to improve the 
process. The second implication is that top notch developers do not care 
about end user comfort. My experience is that most do care but they needa 
helpful environment to achieve food documentation.

Most of our really top 
notch developers are actually very bad at documenting their work (I don't
mean bad at being timely with it, I mean that they are bad at DOING it), and
frankly their time is better spent elsewhere. 

That is a judgment call - franky my experience has been that developers who 
are bad at ensuring their work is well documentated are second rate rather 
than top rate developers.

What I have found works in development is to create team relationships that 
cover design, development and documentation. Unfortunately this does go 
against the somewhat individualistic elitist relationship that is 
unnecessarily sustained by the implications I referred to earlier (neither of 
which I buy and both of which seem to me to be condescending nonsense).

My view would be that the freebsd project might do well to consider 
implementing a no release without quality documentation assurance policy. 
Such a policy forces design and development to integrate their work with 
whoever has been identified as responsible for user documentation (whether 
that is the designer, developer or a seprate documentation person or team. 
This encourage the preparation of user documentation as part of the project 
rather then an afterthought (that depends upon members of the hoi poloi.

The documentation is light 
years ahead of where it was 11 years ago when I started using FreeBSD for
one simple reason. Interested users stepped up and helped make it better.
That's the only way that things improve in an open source project.

OK so some of that talent needs to be harnessed and integrated into the 
development process. In this day and age we need to believe that user 
documentation provides a paradigm for design and development not design and 
development a paradigm for documentation. The latter view characterized 
development in the early 70,s and 80's. I thought we had moved beyond that.


FWIW, I added a paragraph to the UPDATING file in both HEAD and RELENG_6
that describes why updating to the latest code in the installed branch is a
good idea before trying a major version upgrade. Hopefully that will help
the next person who stumbles over this same issue.

Thank you so much for what you do. I trust that you will understand that 
recomendations for improvement are made BECAUSE the quality of design and 
development is so good. It deserves better and more professional attention to 
the role of end user documentation.

my two pennorth

Doug

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Re: Copying kernel and OS

2005-12-07 Thread Erik Nørgaard

Jack Raats wrote:

I've two machines running FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE.
One very fast machine and one very very slow machine. On the fast 
machine I can compile a new kernel and OS very quickly and easily.
Is it possible to transfer the compile world and kernel to the slow 
machine. If yes whart directories etc... do i have to transfer.


see the handbook, this section seems for you:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/small-lan.html

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Re: Copying kernel and OS

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith

Jack Raats wrote:

I've two machines running FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE.
One very fast machine and one very very slow machine. On the fast 
machine I can compile a new kernel and OS very quickly and easily.
Is it possible to transfer the compile world and kernel to the slow 
machine. If yes whart directories etc... do i have to transfer.


Jack


I do something like this.  I build on the fast machine, and then use NFS 
to allow the slow machine to access /usr/src and /usr/obj.  I have found 
that it is important to preserve the names of the directories, so that 
they are also called /usr/src and /usr/obj on the slow machine.  Then I 
just do mergemaster, make installworld, make installkernel (in the 
appropriate order) on the slow machine, and it works like a charm.


The entries in fstab are like this:
hub2:/usr/obj/usr/objnfs rw,bg,noauto0   0
hub2:/usr/src/usr/srcnfs rw,bg,noauto0   0
where hub2 is the name of the fast machine.

In /etc/exports on hub2 I have something like this
/usr -maproot=root -alldirs -network 10.0.0.0 -mask 255.255.255.0
(here 10.0.0.0 is the IP addresses of my LAN)

and in /etc/rc.conf on hub2 I have some lines like
nfs_server_enable=YES
rpcbind_enable=YES

Then on the slow machine I simply type
mount /usr/src
mount /usr/obj

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[FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE] Incorrect geometry for VIA RAID0 array

2005-12-07 Thread Jason Harmening
I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE on a RAID0 array attached to the
VIA 8237 controller on my Asus A8V Deluxe motherboard.  The array consists
of two 74G drives.  The installer recognizes the array as ar0, but when I
enter FDISK to set up my partition, the size of the array is only recognized
as 74G, rather than the true 148G.  I've double-checked all my BIOS
settings, and nothing seems out of order.  Please help!

Thanks,
Jason Harmening
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Re: Help - vr0: rx packet loss on new 6.0 kernel

2005-12-07 Thread Vizion
Hi

I have two questions:

1. Why on booting up from a new freebsd 6.0 generic kernel I should get 
repeated messages at high frequency on the consol related to 
vr0: rx packet loss

2. How can I stop the messages to investigate?

I have gone back to 5.4 to lick my wounds until I know how to deal with this 
one

david
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Re: Upgrading 5.3 6.0 buildworld failure now in libmagic

2005-12-07 Thread secmgr

Doug Barton wrote:


How does this change to UPDATING in RELENG_6 look to you:

Index: UPDATING
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/UPDATING,v
retrieving revision 1.416.2.7
diff -u -r1.416.2.7 UPDATING
--- UPDATING1 Nov 2005 23:44:40 -   1.416.2.7
+++ UPDATING7 Dec 2005 00:42:04 -
@@ -229,7 +229,13 @@
page for more details.

Due to several updates to the build infrastructure, source
-   upgrades from versions prior to 5.3 no longer supported.
+   upgrades from versions prior to 5.4-STABLE are not likely
+   to succeed.
+
+   When upgrading from one major version to another, it is
+   generally best to upgrade to the latest code in the branch
+   currently installed first, then do another upgrade to the
+   new branch.


Or as another poster said, just say latest RELENG_5 prior to upgrade

This is an open source project. The only way that things improve is if 
people help make it better. It's also worth pointing out that this 
issue of upgrading to the latest version of the branch you're in has 
been common knowledge for, basically, always; so if the folks that 
wrote the release notes neglected to include it, it's understandable. 
(Although, as you point out, potentially frustrating for new(er) users.)


Well, if it's common knowledge, lets see it documented.  We're only 
talking a few lines in the handbook or the release notes, not an entire 
chapter.


If RE wants to change the requirements for upgrading, then how 
bleeping hard would it be to update either release notes or errata.  
It's not so much that I now need to do multiple upgrades (ok, that IS 
pretty annoying), it's that I'd never of known unless I followed this 
thread.



Ok, so, after you calm down a bit, why don't you write a message to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mention this issue.


rant3
My frustration comes from the fact that this seems to be getting worse, 
not better.  In addition, every time I bring this up, I'm told (usually 
by someone with a freebsd.org address) that, oh we all know/knew about 
that  or, it's common knowledge. In the case of the 
vinum/gvinum/gmirror trainwreck, I got silence, even though I strongly 
suspect multiple people knew there were problems, but just didn't want 
to talk about them.  I'd gladly help document some of this, but I'm not 
the one who knows where the skeletons are snoozing (at least till I trip 
on a femur)


So whats the big issue with letting the rest of us in on the secrets?  
I'm not looking for a book, just a line or two saying here be dragons 
somewhere /other /than the basement of the planing department in the 
bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a 
sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard' (apologies to Doug Adams).

/rant

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Re: [FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE] Incorrect geometry for VIA RAID0 array

2005-12-07 Thread Jason Harmening
Here's the dmesg output from the installer:

ad4: 70911MB WDC WD740GD-00FLA1 27.08D27 at ata2-master SATA150
ad6: 70911MB WDC WD740GD-00FLC0 33.08F33 at ata3-master SATA150
ar0: 70911MB VIA Tech V-RAID RAID0 (stripe 64 KB) status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY using ad6 at ata3-master

On 12/7/05, Jason Harmening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE on a RAID0 array attached to the
 VIA 8237 controller on my Asus A8V Deluxe motherboard.  The array consists
 of two 74G drives.  The installer recognizes the array as ar0, but when I
 enter FDISK to set up my partition, the size of the array is only recognized
 as 74G, rather than the true 148G.  I've double-checked all my BIOS
 settings, and nothing seems out of order.  Please help!

 Thanks,
 Jason Harmening

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Stable Doc issues- thread branched from [Upgrading 5.3 6.0 buildworld failure]

2005-12-07 Thread Vizion
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 13:34,  the author Vizion contributed to the 
dialogue on-
 Re: Upgrading 5.3  6.0 buildworld failure now in libmagic now 
Stable Doc issues- thread branched from [Upgrading 5.3  6.0 buildworld 
failure]
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 13:01,  the author Doug Barton contributed to
the dialogue on-

 Re: Upgrading 5.3  6.0 buildworld failure now in libmagic:
Vizion wrote:
 Well I do not want to not thank those who have made the upgrades viable.
 The value of their work should not be underrated.

That's a step in the right direction, thanks. :)

 There is however a perennial problem that freebsd documentation has
 always been seen as behind and seperate from the development process
 rather than an integral part of that process.

You're right, however that is just the way it is.

Well having run many very large scale projects myself I  find it difficult
 to accept either implication of this perspective. The first implication is
 that we should be complacent about it and not seek to find a method to
 improve the process. The second implication is that top notch developers do
 not care about end user comfort. My experience is that most do care but
 they needa helpful environment to achieve food documentation.

Most of our really top
notch developers are actually very bad at documenting their work (I don't
mean bad at being timely with it, I mean that they are bad at DOING it),
 and frankly their time is better spent elsewhere.

That is a judgment call - franky my experience has been that developers who
are bad at ensuring their work is well documentated are second rate rather
than top rate developers.

What I have found works in development is to create team relationships that
cover design, development and documentation. Unfortunately this does go
against the somewhat individualistic elitist relationship that is
unnecessarily sustained by the implications I referred to earlier (neither
 of which I buy and both of which seem to me to be condescending nonsense).

My view would be that the freebsd project might do well to consider
implementing a no release without quality documentation assurance policy.
Such a policy forces design and development to integrate their work with
whoever has been identified as responsible for user documentation (whether
that is the designer, developer or a seprate documentation person or team.
This encourage the preparation of user documentation as part of the project
rather then an afterthought (that depends upon members of the hoi poloi.

The documentation is light
years ahead of where it was 11 years ago when I started using FreeBSD for
one simple reason. Interested users stepped up and helped make it better.
That's the only way that things improve in an open source project.

OK so some of that talent needs to be harnessed and integrated into the
development process. In this day and age we need to believe that user
documentation provides a paradigm for design and development not design and
development a paradigm for documentation. The latter view characterized
development in the early 70,s and 80's. I thought we had moved beyond that.

FWIW, I added a paragraph to the UPDATING file in both HEAD and RELENG_6
that describes why updating to the latest code in the installed branch is a
good idea before trying a major version upgrade. Hopefully that will help
the next person who stumbles over this same issue.

Thank you so much for what you do. I trust that you will understand that
recomendations for improvement are made BECAUSE the quality of design and
development is so good. It deserves better and more professional attention
 to the role of end user documentation.

my two pennorth

Just another thought - it seems that the current philosophy is
We know generally what you the users want and you will know exactly what you 
have got when we have done it!!
When we have done we will give it to you for you to sort out how you can use 
it!
Ps. If you fo not like what we have done or the way we have done it you need 
to be reminded you are lucky we have done it for you!!

Come on - it just cannot be like this for ever. 

Open source projects start like this but as they mature does not the 
concentatration need to shift towards user satisfaction rather than just a 
constant gallop towards greater technical functionality.

david

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FreeBSD 6.0 as storage server with raid5?

2005-12-07 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
I need to set up a storage server for my personal use. The current
solution on my little local network is a haphazard collection of old
machines with disks in them, and backups are so-so.

I could just set up a normal FreeBSD server, with single disks, and
setup another one for the backup. However, I would like to try something
new for me; raid. Specifically, I'm looking to set up a server with raid
5 for storage.
For the backup server, I haven't decided yet, but I am thinking about a
normal server with external (firwire or usb 2.0) disks.

 I was thinking about gvinum for the storage server, but given the
current documentation and the discussions about it now, I don't want to
risk it. So, I'm looking at hardware raid 5 controllers. From this list,
it seems that areca and 3ware are the best ones, but they are very
expensive here. I also know that anything with a SIL 3112 on it are to
be avoided. So here is the list over controllers I can get for a
reasonable price: Highpoint RocketRAID 1640(4 ports)
Promise FastTrak S150 SX4(4 ports)
Promise FastTrak S150 SX4-M(4 ports)
Highpoint RocketRAID 1810A(4 ports)
Highpoint RocketRAID 1820A(8 ports)
Intel RAID Controller SRCS16(6 ports)

Which one should I get? 
Are there some that are not supported or should be avoided for other
reasons?

Other questions:
1) can I install several 4-port RAID controllers in one machine? I can
get two RocketRAID 1640's for the price of one RocketRAID 1820A.

2) Rebuilding a damaged array - are some of these controllers better
   than others? (Easier to handle, rebuilds in shorter time, ?)
3) disks - I understand the importance of using disks from different
   production runs. Some people have suggested to use disks of different
   brands as well, but there were no conclusions. Should I stick to the
   same brand and model, or can I use disks of different brands as long
   as they are of the same size?
4) PSU considerations. How big a PSU do I need if I want to run two
controllers and eight disks in one machine? are there any rules of thumb
for sizing this?

Other suggestions are welcome.
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen,
Norway

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Re: cpu-timer rate

2005-12-07 Thread Ed
With all due respect, vmware plays fast and loose with the clocks is not a 
satisfactory technical explanation.  The pdf file I linked to in my previous 
post *does* offer some actual insight as to how vmware simulates i386 
hardware clocks and timers.  It does not, however, offer any insight as to 
why it should be only a particular FreeBSD OS (specifically, FreeBSD 
6.0-STABLE) which exhibits this curious behavior wherein the hosted OS has a 
system clock running at precisely half the rate of that of the host OS.


I am not satisfied with it is vmware's fault as a technical explanation. 
They might indeed have simulated the LAPIC timer or some other device 
incorrectly (and subtly, such that no other OS reveals the flaw), but until 
the precise nature of that error (if any) is explained, your accusation 
rings hollow.


For these reasons, I believe your technically unsupported assertion that 
This is nothing to do with the core team should be shelved, pending actual 
investigation of the phenomenon.


I see a potential situation developing here in which two talented teams of 
developers each regard a shared problem as an outlier, and thus blame the 
other team without investigating, leaving the problem unresolved.


It is no doubt true that those of us who run FreeBSD in VMWare are a 
minority of a minority, and as such should expect a bit of fiddling and 
adjusting from time to time rather than continuous smooth sailing on default 
configurations, but nevertheless, the problems we work around should not be 
dismissed before they are understood.


--Ed


P.S.--  The current workaround for the 1/2-speed clock problem is disabling 
the FreeBSD APIC device.  This means FreeBSD can not be run (with a correct 
system clock) in SMP mode on VMWare emulated hardware.  The most recent 
version of the most widely used vmware product, VMWare Workstation (5.5, 
released only weeks ago), added support for dual-cpu emulation, on systems 
that actually have two (or more?) processors.  The workaround I found is, 
I'm afraid, becoming less adequate even as we speak.


P.P.S.-- Though my aggrieved tone no doubt suggests otherwise, I would be 
most happy to offer any assistance I can in getting to the bottom of this. 
I've looked a bit at the ACPI (not APIC) code to try to figure out why the 
kernel chooses ACPI-safe rather than ACPI-fast for the kernel timer when 
APIC is disabled, but I saw no reference to the APIC device in the 
clock-choosing stuff.  The role of the APIC device in the kernel 
clocks/timers remains opaque to me; all I know is that the release notes for 
6.0 clearly state that it is now used in single-processor systems, and that 
this is a change from 5.x.



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From: Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: cpu-timer rate



On Wed, 2005-Dec-07 03:51:47 -0800, Ed wrote:

I certainly do not have a full understanding of the interactions between
the various FreeBSD software timers and i386 hardware clocks, but I do 
know

this is not the first time we've seen a problem with the APIC/ACPI
timers/clocks.


You have a totally different problem.  In your case the system is not
keeping correct time - this is because VMware does not provide stable
clock interrupts - probably due to interactions between VMware and the
host OS.  In kama's case, the interrupt rate reported by vmstat -i
does not match the numbers reported by kern.clockrate.  There is no
indication that the system is not keeping correct time.


Again, I'm no expert, but clock problems do keep cropping up here on
the -STABLE list, and the explanations for them to date have not been
consistent.


AFAIR, all the problems reported here have been related to VMware
clients.  And as someone stated VMware plays fast and loose with
clocks.

I'm sure I'm not the only end-user who would appreciate it if the core 
team


This is nothing to do with the core team.

--
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Re: cpu-timer rate

2005-12-07 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 03:39:04PM -0800, Ed wrote:
 
 For these reasons, I believe your technically unsupported assertion that 
 This is nothing to do with the core team should be shelved, pending 
 actual investigation of the phenomenon.

Peter's assertion is entirely correct.  You misunderstand the role of
the core team.  It has little to do with technical issues and nothing to
do with debugging specific problems in the normal course of things.

This problem should be fixed, but it's unlikely in the extreme that it's
a problem the core team would have anything to do with.  An individual
member might in fact be the one to fix it the problem, but that wouldn't
have anything to do with them being a core team member.

-- Brooks

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Re: permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

2005-12-07 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Oleg Palij wrote:
 Approximately once per month or two this server panics.
 We use it for InterSystems Cache` (under linux emulation) and as samba-server 
 (not heavy-loaded).
 
 # dmesg -a 
 can be found at http://www.dp.uz.gov.ua/dmesg.isc-cache
 kernel config - http://www.dp.uz.gov.ua/kernel.isc-cache

This is a samba server?  It looks like you're using smbfs.

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Re: cpu-timer rate

2005-12-07 Thread Ed
My apologies, I did not understand this specific meaning of core team when 
I wrote that.


What term should I use in the future, when discussing problems of this 
nature? FreeBSD kernel developers, or some such?



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To: Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
freebsd-stable@freebsd.org

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:03 PM
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Re: cpu-timer rate

2005-12-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:23:04PM -0800, Ed wrote:
 My apologies, I did not understand this specific meaning of core team 
 when I wrote that.
 
 What term should I use in the future, when discussing problems of this 
 nature? FreeBSD kernel developers, or some such?

FreeBSD developers is fine.

Kris


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Primise and Intel RAID dont work

2005-12-07 Thread GreenX

  Hi PPL!

  I have a computer with parent payment ASUS P4C800E-DELUXE.

  OS FreeBSD 6.0-stable (CVS from 21.nov.2005) is established.

  It is established five hard disks:

  - One system on ICH5 ata100 Maxtor 6Y200P0

  - And four on Promise RAID 0+1 WDC WD3200J (D/B)

  All fine worked (except for em0, but also he has normally earned
   after

  updating)

  while I have not wanted to establish two more hard disks (Maxtor

  6Y080M0) on Intel in Stripe RAID.

  Hard disks have been put - the system of them has found out

  (the truth and known all bug failed to enable memory mapping),

  and I with them was more did than nothing (did not format, did not

  break - there was no time).

  In three days of job the system has given out me the following:

  ad4: req=0xc630f190 SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE semaphore
   timeout!!

  DANGER Will Robinson!!

  This warning has been given many times.

  And ad4 it is established on Promise!

  After reboot smartd has given out the warning

  smartd [767]: Device:/dev/ad10, 1 Currently unreadable (pending)

  sectors

  smartd [767]: Device:/dev/ad10, 26 Offline uncorrectable sectors

  (ad10 the first disk in Stripe RAID on Intel MATRIX)

  After that has made CVSUP and has put for the night rebuild the
   world.

  In the morning has seen - to warrning

  ad4: req=0xc90efd48 SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE semaphore
   timeout!!

  DANGER Will Robinson!!

  It was added:

  kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 100, please see tuning (7).

  Has install the world, has spat and has disconnected these both
   HDDs

  from the controller

  (itself Matrix has remained switched on)

  Has passed three more days and yesterday has received the new
   letter:)

  kernel: DOH! ata_alloc_request failed!

  kernel: FAILURE - out of memory in ata_raid_init_request

  last message repeated 4 times

  kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081878016,

  length=49152)] error = 5

  kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081730560,

  length=12288)] error = 5

  kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554082091008,

  length=65536)] error = 5

  kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081927168,

  length=16384)] error = 5

  kernel: g_vfs_done ():ar0s1d [WRITE (offset=554081943552,

  length=16384)] error = 5

  syslogd: kernel boot file is/boot/kernel/kernel

  kernel: panic: kmem_malloc (4096): kmem_map too small: 172470272
   total

  allocated

  Then has switched off also the controller, has again updated system

  and I wait some more days:)

  Immemorial Russian question - what to make?,

  I think here it is inappropriate, and so all is clear

  Remarks on system: it is switched on HHT (ACPI, SMP) and DEVICE

  POLLING,

  the network interface em0 and Intel Matrix, both stand on one irq.

   ---

   Gy... That that is written above, I wrote yesterday and for a long
   time to wait it was not necessary

   In the evening the system has given out me the following:

   kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. RAID0+1 array in
   DEGRADED mode

   kernel: subdisk4: detached

   kernel: ad4: detached

   kernel: unknown: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 retry left)
   LBA=73576960

   kernel: unknown: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (0 retries left)
   LBA=73576960

   After reboot the first disk on Promise appeared in a array 1, and
   other disks in array 2.

   Has changed sheduler on old 4BSD and has removed from a kernel device
   polling

   
   

References

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Re: Copying kernel and OS

2005-12-07 Thread Jack Raats

Is it also possible to scp both directories to the slow machine?

JAck

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To: Jack Raats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; FreeBSD Stable 
freebsd-stable@freebsd.org

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Copying kernel and OS



Jack Raats wrote:

I've two machines running FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE.
One very fast machine and one very very slow machine. On the fast machine 
I can compile a new kernel and OS very quickly and easily.
Is it possible to transfer the compile world and kernel to the slow 
machine. If yes whart directories etc... do i have to transfer.


Jack


I do something like this.  I build on the fast machine, and then use NFS 
to allow the slow machine to access /usr/src and /usr/obj.  I have found 
that it is important to preserve the names of the directories, so that 
they are also called /usr/src and /usr/obj on the slow machine.  Then I 
just do mergemaster, make installworld, make installkernel (in the 
appropriate order) on the slow machine, and it works like a charm.


The entries in fstab are like this:
hub2:/usr/obj/usr/objnfs rw,bg,noauto0   0
hub2:/usr/src/usr/srcnfs rw,bg,noauto0   0
where hub2 is the name of the fast machine.

In /etc/exports on hub2 I have something like this
/usr -maproot=root -alldirs -network 10.0.0.0 -mask 255.255.255.0
(here 10.0.0.0 is the IP addresses of my LAN)

and in /etc/rc.conf on hub2 I have some lines like
nfs_server_enable=YES
rpcbind_enable=YES

Then on the slow machine I simply type
mount /usr/src
mount /usr/obj

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Re: cpu-timer rate

2005-12-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Wed, 2005-Dec-07 15:39:04 -0800, Ed wrote:
With all due respect, vmware plays fast and loose with the clocks is not 
a satisfactory technical explanation.

Hi-jacking unrelated e-mail threads and top posting is not good
etiquette either.

It is no doubt true that those of us who run FreeBSD in VMWare are a 
minority of a minority,

I run FreeBSD in VMware at work.  After installing vmware-tools and
telling VMware to use the host clock I haven't seen any clock problems
(definitely in 5.x and I don't recall seeing any in 4.x or 6.x).

-- 
Peter Jeremy
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Re: permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

2005-12-07 Thread Oleg Palij
Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 02:44:40AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] написал:

 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Oleg Palij wrote:
  Approximately once per month or two this server panics.
  We use it for InterSystems Cache` (under linux emulation) and as 
 samba-server (not heavy-loaded).
  # dmesg -a
  can be found at http://www.dp.uz.gov.ua/dmesg.isc-cache
  kernel config - http://www.dp.uz.gov.ua/kernel.isc-cache
 This is a samba server?  It looks like you're using smbfs.
Yes, we use it as a samba server.
Yes, we use smbfs.

# mount | grep smbfs
//[EMAIL PROTECTED]/FTPEXCHANGE on /mnt/exchange (smbfs)
//[EMAIL PROTECTED]/FREEBSD on /mnt/FreeBSD (smbfs)


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Re: permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

2005-12-07 Thread Oleg Palij
Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:31:32PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] написал:
 
 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Oleg Palij wrote:
  Approximately once per month or two this server panics.
  We use it for InterSystems Cache` (under linux emulation) and as 
 samba-server (not heavy-loaded).
 
  #5  0xc062f0fa in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140
  #6  0x0018 in ?? ()
  #7  0xc0c10010 in ?? ()
  #8  0xc15d0010 in ?? ()
  #9  0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
  #10 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
  #11 0xcbe69b24 in ?? ()
  #12 0xcbe69b10 in ?? ()
  #13 0x in ?? ()
  #14 0xc0f77480 in ?? ()
  #15 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
  #16 0x in ?? ()
  #17 0x000c in ?? ()
  #18 0x in ?? ()
 
 Unfortunately this trace looks corrupted.  Are you building your kernel 
 with -O2?
I guess that no.

# cat /etc/make.conf
WITHOUT_X11=yes
WITHOUT_GUI=yes
DISTDIR=/data/install/FreeBSD/distfiles
NO_INET6=yes
#NO_MODULES=1
# added by use.perl 2005-10-12 09:20:03
PERL_VER=5.8.7
PERL_VERSION=5.8.7

# set | grep -- '-O'
#

I built kernel with 
# make kernel KERNCONF=...

Also, I noticed that in my work computer (6.0-R) all dumps I obtained seems to 
be corrupted too. I can not even guess why this can happen.

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Re: permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

2005-12-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:50:50AM +0200, Oleg Palij wrote:
 Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:31:32PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ???:
  
  On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Oleg Palij wrote:
   Approximately once per month or two this server panics.
   We use it for InterSystems Cache` (under linux emulation) and as 
  samba-server (not heavy-loaded).
  
   #5  0xc062f0fa in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140
   #6  0x0018 in ?? ()
   #7  0xc0c10010 in ?? ()
   #8  0xc15d0010 in ?? ()
   #9  0xc1465e00 in ?? ()
   #10 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
   #11 0xcbe69b24 in ?? ()
   #12 0xcbe69b10 in ?? ()
   #13 0x in ?? ()
   #14 0xc0f77480 in ?? ()
   #15 0xc1313e94 in ?? ()
   #16 0x in ?? ()
   #17 0x000c in ?? ()
   #18 0x in ?? ()
  
  Unfortunately this trace looks corrupted.  Are you building your kernel 
  with -O2?
 I guess that no.
 
 # cat /etc/make.conf
 WITHOUT_X11=yes
 WITHOUT_GUI=yes
 DISTDIR=/data/install/FreeBSD/distfiles
 NO_INET6=yes
 #NO_MODULES=1
 # added by use.perl 2005-10-12 09:20:03
 PERL_VER=5.8.7
 PERL_VERSION=5.8.7
 
 # set | grep -- '-O'
 #
 
 I built kernel with 
 # make kernel KERNCONF=...
 
 Also, I noticed that in my work computer (6.0-R) all dumps I obtained seems 
 to be corrupted too. I can not even guess why this can happen.

Strange.  Can you obtain a trace from DDB for comparison next time?
That will at least show where the problem lies, although it will be
difficult to analyze without a usable core.

Kris


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Re: permanent per month panic on 5.4-p4

2005-12-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 02:55:15AM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:

 Strange.  Can you obtain a trace from DDB for comparison next time?
 That will at least show where the problem lies, although it will be
 difficult to analyze without a usable core.

Or you might like to try updating to 6.0 to see if the problem is one
of those that are already fixed.

Kris


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