Re: Xorg problem with 5.3

2005-04-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:15:47 +0100, Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am having an issue with Xorg under FreeBSD 5.3:  The screen has lots
 of small wave-like patterns descending along the screen whenever the CPU
 does any work.  My monitor is a Viglen CRT.

I think this is more likely to be an issue with the graphics adapter than
with the monitor. The monitor has no way of knowing if the CPU is under
load or not and therefore cannot react to it. The graphics adapter, OTOH,
could be experiencing EMI from the CPU fan as it steps up power with the
CPU heating up, or maybe just reacting to the extra heat from the CPU if
it's near enough. Or maybe the shielding in the Sub-D connected to
the monitor is bust.

Either way round we don't have enough information to go on here, but I
expect the problem is not the monitor in any case.

 Versions are: xorg-6.8.2 on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE.

More to the point, what type of CPU is it, what kind of graphics card on
what bus, and how far away from the CPU?

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Re: kdelibs portupgrade prob

2005-03-22 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:37:01 +1000, Warren
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 err .. all i did was what i usually do to upgrade a pkg and run cvsup and
 then portupgrade .. has always worked in the past, wasnt aware of needing 
 something special in this upgrade of KDE

Checking UPDATING should *always* be the step between cvsup and portupgrade!

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Re: make installkernel fails

2005-03-14 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:07:41 -0500, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 However, it seems to have been fixed as of Sunday or so.  (I've
 forgotten the exact date now).

It was fixed by the time I did my last cvsup, and that was Thursday March
10th at 15:01 Zulu.

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Re: performance under heavy load

2005-03-05 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 11:58:08 -0500, Vlad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 to be fair, I should note that as admin / user of few tens of servers
 running both systems, I can assure you that if your linux loses
 control with LA ~ 10, then something is seriously wrong with that
 server and it's not because of the linux (rather it's hardware or
 wrong kernel configuration).

Agreed.

If you look at the details on http://www.kernel.org, you'll see that the
server is running Linux-2.6 and that the load average is constantly around
200.

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Re: freebsd-stable Digest, Vol 101, Issue 9

2005-03-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:28:58 +0300, Penerdzhy R.V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
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My Russian may be a little rusty but this is what I understand of the
above. It looks like someone has mail processing problems...

The subject of this mail was hidden.

I'm informing you that, if further similar mails are received, they'll be
processed last in the queue.

- From now on, to speed up the processing of your mails, indicate a subject.

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What exactly does buildworld build anyway? If it really does build the
world then there's the mother of all bug reports to file somewhere!
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Re: Linking with CUPS Issue

2005-03-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:58:02 +, Jake Stride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] make
 Linking rastertokmlf...
 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcups
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /root/magicolor2430DL-1.1.0.

Make distclean.

Now, before running ./configure again, set these variables:

CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include
LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib

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Re: 5.3-R and D-Link DFE530TX cards

2005-03-01 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:24:25 -0500, Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I just installed 5.3-R on a spare machine, which is equipped with a D-Link
 DFE-530TX network card.
 This is a typical Digital 21440A-based card which has worked fine fine
 under 4.x before.

Something misdetected your card, then. The DFE-530TX is via-rhine based
(vr0) - I should know, I have 3 boxen using them :)

The DFE-530TX+, however, is based on an RTL8139.

$ dmesg | grep vr0
vr0: VIA VT3043 Rhine I 10/100BaseTX port 0x1080-0x10ff mem 
0xf000-0xf07f irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0
miibus0: MII bus on vr0
vr0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:df:6f:60

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Re: RELENG_5 frozen tomorrow?

2005-03-01 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:13:32 +0100 (MET), Mipam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the planning i saw that the RELENG_5 source would be frozen feb 2.
 Will this still happen or not?

That was a month ago...

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Re: Xorg 6.8.1 and SCHED_ULE vs. SCHED_4BSD

2005-03-01 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:21:39 -0800, Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd say something is very wrong on your systems and I'd ALMOST bet it's
 ata related. Maybe ATA-MkIII would help things out.

Possibly, altho' I doubt it given that the only short periods during which
the machine is responsive are *during* disk I/O.

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Re: Xorg 6.8.1 and SCHED_ULE vs. SCHED_4BSD

2005-03-01 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 02:32:02 -0500 (EST), Jeff Roberson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is the process that does the FFT in kernel, niced, or rtprio'd?

last pid: 93131;  load averages:  0.96,  0.49,  0.24  up 0+05:18:20 15:29:47
48 processes:  2 running, 46 sleeping
CPU states: 99.6% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0% idle
Mem: 174M Active, 94M Inact, 86M Wired, 14M Cache, 48M Buf, 2564K Free
Swap: 743M Total, 180K Used, 743M Free

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
93124 godwin   1210 33288K 23836K RUN  2:22 13.72% 13.72% audacity

WCPU and CPU climb to about 20%, drop to 0 during disk I/O, then start
climbing again.

Note that this is with SCHED_4BSD. I'd need to recompile a kernel to get
similar information for ULE/PREEMPTION.

fx: goes off and compiles a new kernel and comes back when it's done...

Looks like I spoke too soon. The system is now perfectly stable and usable
with ULE.

The problems I was having with ULE were on 5.3-STABLE. I'm now on 5.4-PRE.
Were there significant changes to the kernel in between?

 Can you give me any information on the means by which you transfer data
 from a cassette to your pc?

Straightforward audio connection from the amp's line out to the sound
card's line in. The FFT filtering isn't performed on the fly BTW. I use
audacity to grab the audio and then work on it after it's in the box.

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Re: Xorg 6.8.1 and SCHED_ULE vs. SCHED_4BSD

2005-03-01 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:21:07 -0800, Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please DON'T top post to any FreeBSD list!

Who was top-posting? I certainly wasn't! I hate that moronic practice with
a vengeance.

Only mildly less annoying is people writing to the list and Cc:'ing the
message to multiple list members...

 This is starting to sound like it might be an interrupt routing issue
 and interrupts from the disk are sharing an IRQ with something
 else. Something else is generating interrupts that are never getting
 delivered, but the disk interrupts are waking the appropriate driver to
 allow things to proceed.

Whatever it was it would appear to be solved now anyway.

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Xorg 6.8.1 and SCHED_ULE vs. SCHED_4BSD

2005-02-27 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:49:00 +0100, Michael Nottebrock
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 I've been using that for a long time now, since Xorg 6.8.1 breaks vt-
 switching for me.

Well, I decided to bite the bullet and upgraded to Xorg 6.8.1 anyway. It
didn't break vt-switching for me, thankfully. Other than the core keyboard
driver being kbd instead of Keyboard now, which threw me off for a
couple of minutes, all went well. It seems to be stable enough. Cross
fingers, touch wood etc.

I also took advantage of the latest cvsup to 5.4-PRE and ensuing recompile
to revert to SCHED_4BSD from SCHED_ULE and PREEMPTION in the kernel. The
difference is staggering.

One of the things I've been doing is to record some of my old cassettes
(you know, those old plastic things with 2 holes and a tape inside :) onto
CD. Applying a FFT filter to 50 minutes of audio takes between 10 and 15
minutes on this machine (P-III/550, 384MB) depending on the complexity of
the filter. During this time, with SCHED_ULE and PREEMTION, the machine is
unusable. It freezes hard for periods of 10-12 seconds and then when it
unfreezes (while doing disk i/o apparently) the keys you typed turn up in
the wrong order.

However, now that I've reverted to SCHED_4BSD, the machine remains
perfectly snappy while performing the FFT filter, which doesn't happen
perceptibly slower.

It could be that I misread things entirely (wouldn't be the first time),
but wasn't SCHED_ULE's purpose to *improve* the responsiveness of the
machine when under load? The results I'm getting here are, errmm...
slightly different... Old hardware maybe?

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Re: nice: Badly formed number

2005-02-27 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:54:55 +0200, Lefteris Tsintjelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Is nice broken?
 
 FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb 26 14:17:21 EET 2005
 
 # nice -n 5 date
 nice: Badly formed number.

$ uname -v
FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Feb 27 10:36:40 CET 2005 {snip}
$ nice -n 5 date
Sun 27 Feb 2005 23:59:37 CET

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Re: nice: Badly formed number

2005-02-27 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:02:28 -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  $ uname -v
  FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Feb 27 10:36:40 CET 2005 {snip}
  $ nice -n 5 date
  Sun 27 Feb 2005 23:59:37 CET
 
 Yes, but you weren't using the csh shell.

True. I was using bash (that's what 5 years of using Linux does to you...)

If the bug appears with one shell but not with another, then surely the bug
is in the shell, no?

$ echo $SHELL
/usr/local/bin/bash
$ echo $BASH_VERSION
3.00.0(1)-release
$ nice -n 5 date
Mon 28 Feb 2005 00:06:32 CET
$ csh
%nice -n 5 date
nice: Badly formed number.

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Xorg 6.8.1

2005-02-26 Thread Godwin Stewart
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What is the current status of Xorg 6.8.1?

ISTR not that long ago - when ports were updated from 6.7.0 - people were
reporting random freezes and crashes with the new version of Xorg. This
seems to have died down now so I might consider the update, which might not
be a bad idea given how many other ports are dependent on 6.8.1 and try to
update half the system...

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Re: Any hosting companies offering FreeBSD 5.3 yet?

2005-02-26 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:35:33 -0800, Sam Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I don't know anything about servepath.com

I'm a regular in some of the anti-spam newsgroups and servepath don't
exactly have a stellar reputation. They just signed up Eddy Marin last
month, for example.

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=servepath.com
(you might need to accept a cookie and then try the link again)

http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listing.lasso?-op=cnspammer=Eddy%20Marin%20-%20Oneroute

http://tinyurl.com/4tofb (expands to a search on google groups)

So, hosting with servepath.com may well lead to restricted access to port
25 of other networks. However, I don't know what they're worth from a
purely technical POV.

NB to any members of servepath.com's staff reading this: the above is
publicly available information, I invented none of it. Don't shoot the
messenger.

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Re: Xorg 6.8.1

2005-02-26 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:25:24 +1030, Daniel O'Connor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You don't need to update a port just because it depends on Xorg. The X
 API is quite stable so you can update just Xorg without expecting any
 problems. (I did XFree86 - Xorg with zero problems for example)

No, the problem's the other way round. Every time I want to portupgrade
something else, portupgrade also wants to upgrade Xorg. I don't want the
latest Xorg after the horror stories I heard.

That's why I'm building firefox-1.0.1 independently of the ports system, so
that I don't have to go through the pain of upgrading Xorg (on which
firefox depends, naturally) as well.

Now, if I could be certain that Xorg has settled down, I wouldn't mind
upgrading from 6.7.0 to 6.8.1 and have done with it.

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Re: Xorg 6.8.1

2005-02-26 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:49:00 +0100, Michael Nottebrock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 edit /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf, find the HOLD_PKGS = [ line and change
 it to
 
   HOLD_PKGS = [
 'bsdpan-*',
 'xorg-*',
 'imake-*',
   ]

That's a useful piece of info. Thanks.

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a mile away and you have their shoes.
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Re: Strange disk problems make the system lock up

2005-02-18 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:22:12 -0600, Scot Hetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
with a forced Reply-to: directing mail away from the list:

 The problem is that he only has the c partition, which is reserved to
 specifying the entire disk.

s/disk/slice/

Altho' in this case it's the same thing since the slice occupies the whole 
disk.

 He needs to use disklabel to create a partion using one of a,b,d-h.

Technically speaking, what is the difference between using the 'c' partition
and creating another partition that uses the same space - other than pure 
convention?

Quoting from man bsdlabel: By convention, partition `c' represents the 
entire slice and should be of type unused, though bsdlabel does not enforce 
this convention. ~
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Re: Strange disk problems make the system lock up

2005-02-16 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:45:40 -0600, Scot Hetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have two large disks:
  
  /dev/ad2   144G124G9.2G93%/mnt/sp1604n
  /dev/ad3   226G202G5.2G98%/mnt/wd2500pb
 
 Did you use disklabel on these disks (/dev/ad2s1 and /dev/ad3s1) to
 create a partition on the slice?

The above looks like an excerpt of `df`, meaning that not only was bsdlabel 
not used, but neither was fdisk. That could be a problem for some things 
that at least expect a partition table somewhere.

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Re: Strange disk problems make the system lock up

2005-02-16 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:58:37 +0100, Charles Erik McDonald 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 bastion(root):#mount -t ufs /dev/ad3s1 /mnt/wd2500pb/
 mount: /dev/ad3s1 on /mnt/wd2500pb: incorrect super block
 bastion(root):#mount -t ufs /dev/ad3s1c /mnt/wd2500pb/
 mount: /dev/ad3s1c on /mnt/wd2500pb: incorrect super block
 bastion(root):#mount -t ufs /dev/ad3 /mnt/wd2500pb/  
 bastion(root):#

Well, I don't know anything near enough about UFS to be able to speculate 
on why a valid disklabel is found while the entire physical disk is mounted.
What I would say is that the system freezing when trying to umount the 
filesystems could have something to do with this oddity.

However, one thing I'd do ASAP is back up the data (I know 300+ GB is a lot 
of data) and boot into single user mode so that the 2 disks aren't mounted.
I'd then newfs ad{2,3}s1c and modify my fstab to reflect the fact that I'm 
now using filesystems here rather than just ad{2,3}, boot normally and 
restore the data.

PS: I'm a member of this mailing list so there's no need to Cc: me in on any
replies - I'll get whatever's sent to the list.

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Re: timeout on boot with umass

2005-02-12 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:18:27 +0100, Marc Santhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I'm using a single board computer with freebsd 4-SATBLE. Attached to
 this thingy is a usb memory drive (not plugged, present at boot up)
 which takes approx. 15 seconds to show up as da0 after beeing detected
 by umass.
 
 Is there any possibility of reducing this time significantly?

This is my first attempt at answering someone else's problems so go easy
on me if I'm wrong, okay? :)

Default kernel comes with this in its configuration:

options SCSI_DELAY=15000# Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI

Adjust the delay to taste and rebuild/install your kernel.

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Re: timeout on boot with umass

2005-02-12 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:10:54 +0100, Marc Santhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I'm so stupid, this really is the case.

Wait until someone else confirms before claiming that *you* are the stupid 
one :)

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Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-10 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:21:32 -0800, Freddie Cash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On February 9, 2005 04:13 pm, Ivan Roth wrote:
  sorry to ask that but which software could I use to produce vectorial
  graphics? Quite newbie to freebsd, don't know such free software.
 
 Inkscape is supposed to be a very nice vector drawing program.

There's also $PORTS/graphics/sodipodi

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Re: Adding an usb harddisk

2005-02-10 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:03:33 +0100, Ivan Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 just note that it could not be /dev/da but /dev/ad, e.g, da is 
 only for SCSI disks and ad is for IDE ones.

Only for *internal* IDE drives.

USB drives use umass which presents them to the system as SCSI drives, so 
/dev/da* is accurate.

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Re: unixODBC || FreeBSD 5.3

2005-01-27 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:37:59 -0200, STAMPA 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 What or where can I configure PHP5 to read Mysql through Apache2?

PHP doesn't need ODBC to talk to a MySQL server. Just use the MySQL
functions included in PHP:

http://br.php.net/manual/pt_BR/ref.mysql.php

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Re: Realtek 8139 (rl) very poor performance

2005-01-20 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:08:16 -0500 (EST), Vladimir Pianykh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had some problems with rl cards with auto media.

You're probably not the only one.

Note this comment from sys/pci/if_rl.c

/*
 * The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is
 * probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible
 * exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master
 * DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance
 * gains that bus-master DMA usually offers.

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Re: ATI Rage Pro xorg-6.8.1 freebsd 5.3

2005-01-06 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 08:08:12 -0800 (PST), jag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there anyone running this combination successfully.
 It has given me different errors a different times and
 presently it gives (EE) R128: DFP no detected.

It always does.

I've been using a similar card with various flavours of Linux and currently
with FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE/Xorg-6.7 and that error message has always existed
but never prevented the hardware from working correctly.

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Re: fsck: broken file system with background check remains broken after bootup

2005-01-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:26:27 +, Dick Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 That won't happen, since /usr isn't mounted in single user mode.

Even if it were, there are always Live BSD CDROMs which should allow you
to boot and then fsck your disk partitions.

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Old version of bison

2005-01-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
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Ports cvsup'ed yesterday,

$ cat /usr/ports/devel/bison/Makefile
{snip}
PORTNAME=   bison
PORTVERSION=1.75
PORTREVISION=   2
{snip}

Is there any particular reason why ports are sticking with this version when
1.875 was released 2 years ago almost to the day?

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Re: Old version of bison

2005-01-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 03:55:42 -0800, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you have an uptodate port system you will find
 
 Port:   bison-1.875_4
 Path:   /usr/ports/devel/bison1875

Indeed.

That'll teach me to hit [tab] twice after typing /usr/ports/devel/bison

Thanks.

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Re: /etc/rc: WARNING: /dev/apmctl not found

2005-01-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:14:27 -0500 (EST), Mike Jakubik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Starting usbd.
 /etc/rc: WARNING: /dev/apmctl not found; kernel is missing apm(4)
 Starting apmd.
 
 --
 
 My kernel:
 --
 # Power management support (see NOTES for more options)
 device  apm
 # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254.
 device  pmtimer

Do you also have this in /boot/device.hints:

hint.apm.0.disabled=0
hint.acpi.0.disabled=1

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Re: /etc/rc: WARNING: /dev/apmctl not found

2005-01-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:19:33 -0500 (EST), Mike Jakubik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I have whatever the default values are for 5.3. Do these need to be set
 manally?

Yes, they do.

 Any reason for this?

ACPI and APM are mutually exclusive. If one's running the other will refuse
to start.

The default kernel tries to load ACPI by default first thing unless either
of the 2 following conditions are met:

1) The laptop is on a blacklist of machines known to have a fscked up ACPI
subsystem.

2) You tell it explicitly *not* to do so. This is done by adding the
`hint.acpi.0.disabled=1' hint.

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Re: cdrecord cannot see DVD-RW with ATAPICAM

2004-12-29 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:14:04 -0800, John-Mark Gurney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Though you'll probably want to d/l the ProDVD version of cdrecord to
 be able to burn DVD's..

Either that or use dvd+rw-tools (see /usr/ports/sysutils/dvd+rw-tools).

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Re: DMA errors with SATA on 5.x [one fix]/ SATA DVD+RW

2004-12-15 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:26:20 -0800, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Peter,  you can count me in for $50.  Will send it here in the next 
 couple of hours or so.  On a humorous note, I keep getting these emails 
 from *supposedly*  EBay and Paypal telling me that my account is about 
 to be closed due to hackers infiltrating their system.  LOL  And the 
 email senders' addresses come from .ro  LOL  They always want to 
 redirect me to a site where I can enter in all my personal info.

Does it really matter with all the money you'll have after helping
Dr. Mugu Bongobongo get those millions out of that bank in Lagos?

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Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-12-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:00:18 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (II) R128(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 11
 
 Right after this line I get (for my radeon):
 
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 5111808
 
 Followed by:
 
 (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled
 
 Maybe AGP GART isn't working?

You're probably on to something there. I *do* get the Direct rendering
enabled message on the Linux setup, although the logs also say that there's
a problem with AGP and that it's falling back to PCI mode.

Anyway, I'm going to google around for hints and see what I can find. It's
probably a question of adding something to kernconf and rebuilding a kernel.

Thanks for the pointer :)

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HW accel on R128/Xorg 6.7/FBSD-5.3R (was: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD)

2004-12-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:10:15 +0100, Godwin Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 You're probably on to something there. I *do* get the Direct rendering
 enabled message on the Linux setup, although the logs also say that
 there's a problem with AGP and that it's falling back to PCI mode.

That was fixed painlessly.

Moving on...

 Anyway, I'm going to google around for hints and see what I can find. It's
 probably a question of adding something to kernconf and rebuilding a
 kernel.

Looked at the handbook which prompted me to add agp_load=YES to
/boot/loader.conf. Okay, mea culpa for not thinking of the obvious.

Everything now points to Hardware acceleration being active:

$ dmesg | grep -i agp
agp0: Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge mem 0xf400-0xf7ff at 
device 0.0 on pci0
drm0: ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF (AGP) port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 
0xf020-0xf0203fff,0xf800-0xfbff irq 11 at device0.0 on pci1
info: [drm] AGP at 0xf400 64MB


Snippets from /var/log/Xorg.0.log :

(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module GLcore
(II) LoadModule: GLcore
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module drm
(II) LoadModule: drm
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: r128
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o
(II) Module r128: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 4.0.1
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) LoadModule: ati
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
(II) Module ati: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 6.5.6
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7

(--) Chipset ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TF (AGP) found
(II) Loading sub module r128
(II) LoadModule: r128
(II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o

(**) R128(0): Option AGPMode 2

drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmGetBusid returned ''

(II) R128(0): [drm] created r128 driver at busid PCI:1:0:0
(II) R128(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xc17f
(II) R128(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xc17f to 0x2834b000
(II) R128(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xf800
(II) R128(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) R128(0): [agp] Mode 0x1f000203 [AGP 0x/0x; Card 0x1002/0x5446]
(II) R128(0): [agp] 8192 kB allocated with handle 0xc14e1a80
(II) R128(0): [agp] ring handle = 0xf400
(II) R128(0): [agp] Ring mapped at 0x2a40
(II) R128(0): [agp] ring read ptr handle = 0xf4101000
(II) R128(0): [agp] Ring read ptr mapped at 0x282d3000
(II) R128(0): [agp] vertex/indirect buffers handle = 0xf4102000
(II) R128(0): [agp] Vertex/indirect buffers mapped at 0x2a501000
(II) R128(0): [agp] AGP texture map handle = 0xf4302000
(II) R128(0): [agp] AGP Texture map mapped at 0x2a701000
(II) R128(0): [drm] register handle = 0xf020
(II) R128(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized
(II) R128(0): CCE in BM mode
(II) R128(0): Using 8 MB AGP aperture
(II) R128(0): Using 1 MB for the ring buffer
(II) R128(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers
(II) R128(0): Using 5 MB for AGP textures
(II) R128(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1024,3840)
(II) R128(0): Reserved area from (0,768) to (1024,770)
(II) R128(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 3070
(II) R128(0): Reserved back buffer from (0,770) to (1024,1538)
(II) R128(0): Reserved depth buffer from (0,1538) to (1024,2307)
(II) R128(0): Reserved depth span from (0,2306) offset 0x902000
(II) R128(0): Reserved 17408 kb for textures at offset 0xf0
(II) R128(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
Screen to screen bit blits
Solid filled rectangles
8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles
Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion
Solid Lines
Dashed Lines
Offscreen Pixmaps
Setting up tile

Re: HW accel on R128/Xorg 6.7/FBSD-5.3R (was: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD)

2004-12-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:03:15 +1030, Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Sure you don't have nvidia GL, or bog standard MESA libraries installed
 for some crazy reason?
 (Wild stab in the dark..)

Not that wild...

I only installed what is included with the ports version of xorg, which I
assume to be MESA. If the ATI R128 requires something extra then that would
be a good reason for this not working...

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Re: HW accel on R128/Xorg 6.7/FBSD-5.3R (was: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD)

2004-12-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:20:46 +1030, Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 What does..
 pkgdb /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so
 
 say?

$ pkg_info -W /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so was installed by package xorg-libraries-6.7.0_3

Could it be that this is just a stub? I ask because I just noticed
$PORTS/graphics/mesagl which is *not* installed.

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Re: HW accel on R128/Xorg 6.7/FBSD-5.3R - SOLVED

2004-12-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:37:35 +0100, Godwin Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 And yet:
 $ glxinfo | grep direct
 direct rendering: No
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
 
 G.

Installing $PORTS/graphics/dri certainly helped...

/me wipes egg off face.

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Re: make buildworld fails for 5-Stable cvsup'd today

2004-12-04 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:23:22 +, Stacey Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 internal compiler error: Segmentation fault

Faulty RAM, maybe?

A machine throwing a segfault is fairly characteristic of a CPU overheating
and/or of a faulty RAM stick.

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Re: Was: Re: Making a data DVD with 4.10 and dvd+rw-format

2004-12-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:17:49 +0100, Stein Morten Sandbech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 My only problem are when an operation on the unit fails, the
 /dev/cd0 device disappears, and a mknod  to recreate the device
 doesn't work either.
 
 The most recent causes have been using cdda2wav.
 
 As of now, it gets reestablished only after a reboot.

This kind of thing will often happen on a device that's having difficulty
reading the media - either because the media's physical characteristics are
close to or outside the tolerance required, or because the drive has a
problem such as a dirty or tired optical block.

More often than not, the drive will perform an internel reset and attempt to
resume reading where it lost track, but sometimes it gets thrown into limbo
and the only way to resume operation is to perform a hard reset, hence devfs
seeing that the drive is offline and the need to reboot the box.

I don't know of any silver bullet to prevent this. I've generally resorted
to ripping the audio data on another box and scp/ftp'ing the data over.

BTW, cdparanoia is less problematic than cdda2wav IME.

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Re: Was: Re: Making a data DVD with 4.10 and dvd+rw-format

2004-12-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 13:31:09 +0100, Godwin Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 but sometimes it gets thrown into limbo and the only way to resume
 operation is to perform a hard reset

Sorry for the self-fup but a thought occurred to me.

Stein, have you tried camcontrol reset n,n,n to reset the DVD drive?

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Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-12-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:26:20 -0500, Jason Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 IMHO, if you just want 2D, pretty much any bottom of the barrel card 
 will work.

I'd add that Matrox cards are excellent in the 2D arena. I still have an old
G200 here and It beats the socks off the ATI Rage128 I also have as far as
clarity and general piqu are concerned.

Obviously, the Rage128 does better than the G200 in the 3D department,
although not in FreeBSD for some reason I have yet to fathom out. In Linux
it works fine.

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Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-12-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 22:45:32 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For 3D you have to load the agp and radeon modules.

This is a Rage128, not a Radeon.

agp is built into the kernel and r128 is already kldloaded.

I tried kldloading radeon anyway and running glxgears. It can't do any
better than about 10 fps at 1024x768/24bits.

Mind you, this might have something to do with it:

$ glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

And yet, quoting snippets from /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module GLcore
(II) LoadModule: GLcore
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module drm
(II) LoadModule: drm
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI


/etc/X11/xorg.conf also has this:

Section DRI
   Mode 0666
EndSection

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Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-12-03 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 00:01:29 +0100, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I tried kldloading radeon anyway and running glxgears. It can't do any
  better than about 10 fps at 1024x768/24bits.
 
 My radeon gives 560 - 580 fps with direct rendering. An R128 would
 probably be somewhat slower.

Running Slackware with XFree86-4.3.0 I'd get about 60-70 fps out of it.

 I think this is just telling you that it is loading the modules you told
 it to. Later in the logfile you see if those modules are actually used.
 Try to grep for [drm] and [agp] to see if they are really used. Or IIRC
 grep for UnloadModule to see if Xorg discards some of those modules. Also
 check for warning (WW) or error (EE) messages.

Hmm

$ grep -i '\(dr\(i\|m\)\|glx\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
X.Org Video Driver: 0.7
X.Org XInput driver : 0.4
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
(II) Loading sub module drm
(II) LoadModule: drm
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor=X.Org Foundation
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.5.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga
(II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets:
(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
(II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmGetBusid returned ''
(II) R128(0): [drm] created r128 driver at busid PCI:1:0:0
(II) R128(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xc1c0b000
(II) R128(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xc1c0b000 to 0x2834b000
(II) R128(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xf800
(II) R128(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) R128(0): [drm] register handle = 0xf020
(II) R128(0): [dri] Visual configs initialized
(II) R128(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(II) R128(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) R128(0): [drm] Added 128 16384 byte vertex/indirect buffers
(II) R128(0): [drm] Mapped 128 vertex/indirect buffers
(II) R128(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 11
(II) Keyboard Keyboard1 handled by legacy driver


$ grep ^(WW)  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/.
(WW) R128(0): Can't determine panel dimensions, and none specified. 
  Disabling programming of FP registers.
(WW) fcntl(9, O_ASYNC): Inappropriate ioctl for device

This last line is apparently something to do with the mouse, which does work
nonetheless:

(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse1 (type: MOUSE)
(II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 3, hw.model is 4
(II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse
(WW) fcntl(9, O_ASYNC): Inappropriate ioctl for device


$ grep ^(EE)  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(EE) R128(0): No DFP detected

Googling on this error message threw up loads of results of people seeing it
but nothing as to what it actually means. I also got it using Linux but it
didn't prevent hardware acceleration from working.

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