[SOLVED] how to remove usb-storage devices without CAM errors
2013/8/8 Michael Schuh michael.sc...@gmail.com H i@list, i have a simple wuestion caused by a device loss. is there a special routine for unplugging usb-storage devices? in the meaning: may be settle some commends before unplugging the device other than umount. according to the handbook there ist no special routine. unmounting should be enough and pull the USB-Devie out of the bus. i could not find anything related by the help of the big oracle. i have some usb-sticks that i need to write with prepared disk-images by using dd. two or more drives are already plugged in and da0 is already finished, da1 or da2 still at writing. unplugging da0 causes a CAM error and interrupts the ongoing write. i am not sure if all writes to each different device gets stopped. this is a reproduceable behaviour thats new to me. see the listing below. let me know if i can and what to do to help to further identify and investigate this error. iirc this happens for the first time this way. my last upgrade before this was feb./march. time of svn checkout was 2013-07-22 so its may be already fixed? many thanks in advance regards michael === ugen3.2: Verbatim at usbus3 umass0: Verbatim STORE N GO, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.10, addr 2 on usbus3 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass0:8:0:-1: Attached to scbus8 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da0: Verbatim STORE N GO PMAP Removable Direct Access SCSI-6 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 7385MB (15124992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 941C) da0: quirks=0x2NO_6_BYTE ugen7.2: Verbatim at usbus7 umass1: Verbatim STORE N GO, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.10, addr 2 on usbus7 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass1:9:1:-1: Attached to scbus9 da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 da1: Verbatim STORE N GO PMAP Removable Direct Access SCSI-6 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 7385MB (15124992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 941C) da1: quirks=0x2NO_6_BYTE (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 ugen3.2: Verbatim at usbus3 (disconnected) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error umass0: (da0:at uhub3, port 3, addr 2 (disconnected) umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE(10). CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE(10). CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): got CAM status 0x44 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device - 0 outstanding, 5 refs (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry Hi again, the error is gone after a new update from svn. many thanks. greetings m. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to remove usb-storage devices without CAM errors
2013/8/8 Alban Hertroys haram...@gmail.com On 8 August 2013 05:56, Michael Schuh michael.sc...@gmail.com wrote: ugen3.2: Verbatim at usbus3 umass0: Verbatim STORE N GO, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.10, addr 2 on usbus3 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass0:8:0:-1: Attached to scbus8 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da0: Verbatim STORE N GO PMAP Removable Direct Access SCSI-6 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 7385MB (15124992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 941C) da0: quirks=0x2NO_6_BYTE ugen7.2: Verbatim at usbus7 umass1: Verbatim STORE N GO, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.10, addr 2 on usbus7 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass1:9:1:-1: Attached to scbus9 da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 da1: Verbatim STORE N GO PMAP Removable Direct Access SCSI-6 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 7385MB (15124992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 941C) da1: quirks=0x2NO_6_BYTE (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 ugen3.2: Verbatim at usbus3 (disconnected) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error umass0: (da0:at uhub3, port 3, addr 2 (disconnected) umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command I'm mostly guessing, but what I suspect that happens is that after you successfully remove da0, the former da1 becomes da0 and any operations on da1 (or da2 that now became da1) get aborted. That you just happen to have exactly identical USB sticks in this case does not help diagnosing whether that's the case though. I'm really hoping this isn't actually what happens here, but it would explain what you're seeing. No. That is not a valid explanation. This happens too if i change the order of the USB-Sticks and pull da2 or da1 instead of da0. The log snippet is exactly from the try and error of your thought. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
how to remove usb-storage devices without CAM errors
H i@list, i have a simple wuestion caused by a device loss. is there a special routine for unplugging usb-storage devices? in the meaning: may be settle some commends before unplugging the device other than umount. according to the handbook there ist no special routine. unmounting should be enough and pull the USB-Devie out of the bus. i could not find anything related by the help of the big oracle. i have some usb-sticks that i need to write with prepared disk-images by using dd. two or more drives are already plugged in and da0 is already finished, da1 or da2 still at writing. unplugging da0 causes a CAM error and interrupts the ongoing write. i am not sure if all writes to each different device gets stopped. this is a reproduceable behaviour thats new to me. see the listing below. let me know if i can and what to do to help to further identify and investigate this error. iirc this happens for the first time this way. my last upgrade before this was feb./march. time of svn checkout was 2013-07-22 so its may be already fixed? many thanks in advance regards michael === ugen3.2: Verbatim at usbus3 umass0: Verbatim STORE N GO, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.10, addr 2 on usbus3 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass0:8:0:-1: Attached to scbus8 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 da0: Verbatim STORE N GO PMAP Removable Direct Access SCSI-6 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 7385MB (15124992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 941C) da0: quirks=0x2NO_6_BYTE ugen7.2: Verbatim at usbus7 umass1: Verbatim STORE N GO, class 0/0, rev 2.10/1.10, addr 2 on usbus7 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 umass1:9:1:-1: Attached to scbus9 da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 da1: Verbatim STORE N GO PMAP Removable Direct Access SCSI-6 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 7385MB (15124992 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 941C) da1: quirks=0x2NO_6_BYTE (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 ugen3.2: Verbatim at usbus3 (disconnected) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error umass0: (da0:at uhub3, port 3, addr 2 (disconnected) umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 00 02 44 80 00 00 80 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE(10). CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying command (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE(10). CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): got CAM status 0x44 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device - 0 outstanding, 5 refs (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: battery state - hw.acpi.battery.life goes only down
2012/9/26 Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Michael Schuh michael.sc...@gmail.comwrote: this wrong number seems persistent during a reboot. i tested this, shortly. the battery life after reboot was 97% with power supply plugged in all the times. after a clean boot the system camed up with a battery.life of 97% ( power supply plugged in :O ). Sounds like normal lithium ion charger behavior to me; typically they won't kick in the charger until it reaches somewhere between 90-95% (depends on the device). This extends the useful life of the battery; raw lithium ion is just as (actually, more) prone to destruction via overcharging as other battery technologies. http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteriesdiscusses this. Note in particular: A continuous trickle charge would cause plating of metallic lithium, and this could compromise safety. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms hmm, may be. i didn't thinked about that lithium charging feature. you may right with that. but one point, this behaviour is new. i made some tests to check if my conkyrc is right and there i haven't wait that the battery is gone under 90% for checking this. after i could confirm that the conkyrc is syntactically correct, the battery reached 100% again. that was before i updated the system last week. i will check that out. under the load of a make world it should only take minutes to get the battery.life under 80%. many thanks for your hint. -- = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0175/5616453 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[SOLVED] Re: battery state - hw.acpi.battery.life goes only down
sorry for the buzz... 2012/9/26 Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Michael Schuh michael.sc...@gmail.comwrote: hmm, may be. i didn't thinked about that lithium charging feature. you may right with that. Yes you are right with that point. I have watched batteries cycle like that on OS X, Linux, and FreeBSD, and some versions of Windows; possibly more recent versions try to hide it. It's also possible the ACPI BIOS normally hides it but needs some recalibration step (on Macs, for example, you need to fully charge then fully discharge then fully charge again to recalibrate it; I think that's common). Yesi agree, this is the most logic explanation in our fantastic world. but one point, this behaviour is new. i made some tests to check if my conkyrc is right and there i haven't wait that the battery is gone under 90% for checking this. after i could confirm that the conkyrc is syntactically correct, the battery reached 100% again. That sounds like it is normal cycling then. No idea why that box didn't showed that behaviour earlier. i am fully sure that i made the same tests before and the charger did jump in much time earlier. may be, i was a bit impatient for now. many thanks again. cheers m. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.com wandering unix systems administrator (available) (412) 475-9364 vm/sms -- = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0175/5616453 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: www.freebsd.org
hi jhell, forget about that i have clicked on commands where are to search on solaris. i know that and i know these commands from solaris. the FreeBSD's webserver was off ( not reacheable for a time ) after my clicks and that was the problem, not that these commands nor man pages wasn't been there. ;-) thanks for your try to help. greetings michael 2010/8/12 jhell jh...@dataix.net: On 08/11/2010 09:30, Michael Schuh wrote: Hi again, up and running again. many thanks. greetings michael 2010/8/11 Michael Schuh michael.sc...@gmail.com: Hi@ list either i shoot the www.freebsd.org webserver in the head or he is still down for other reasons. What i have done before: look through the man pages online. open the manpage for ZFS then at the end of that manpage clicked on sharemgr(4) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sharemgrsektion=1Mapropos=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE and after that no answer on requests. so i guess there will be a problem with man.cgi i have no idea who is responsible for that, if somebody know it and reads this please forward it to the responsible person. asap because www.freebsd.org isnt reacheable from here. many thanks greetings michael -- = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0175/5616453 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = When browsing through the manual pages for ZFS keep in mind that not all of the options utils or even manual pages are available on FreeBSD. Specifically sharemgr(1M) share(1M) unshare(1M) zonecfg(1M) dfstab(4) attributes(5) are not part of FreeBSD as of this moment. These can be better referred to as Sun/*Solaris specific commands and utilities. Regards, -- jhell,v -- = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0175/5616453 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: www.freebsd.org
Hi again, up and running again. many thanks. greetings michael 2010/8/11 Michael Schuh michael.sc...@gmail.com: Hi@ list either i shoot the www.freebsd.org webserver in the head or he is still down for other reasons. What i have done before: look through the man pages online. open the manpage for ZFS then at the end of that manpage clicked on sharemgr(4) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sharemgrsektion=1Mapropos=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE and after that no answer on requests. so i guess there will be a problem with man.cgi i have no idea who is responsible for that, if somebody know it and reads this please forward it to the responsible person. asap because www.freebsd.org isnt reacheable from here. many thanks greetings michael -- = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0175/5616453 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = -- = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0175/5616453 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
www.freebsd.org
Hi@ list either i shoot the www.freebsd.org webserver in the head or he is still down for other reasons. What i have done before: look through the man pages online. open the manpage for ZFS then at the end of that manpage clicked on sharemgr(4) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sharemgrsektion=1Mapropos=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE and after that no answer on requests. so i guess there will be a problem with man.cgi i have no idea who is responsible for that, if somebody know it and reads this please forward it to the responsible person. asap because www.freebsd.org isnt reacheable from here. many thanks greetings michael -- = = = http://michael-schuh.net/ = = = Projektmanagement - IT-Consulting - Professional Services IT Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0175/5616453 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m = = = Ust-ID: DE251072318 = = = ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
coretemp(4) causes System to stall
Hi @List, i have tryed out the new coretemp driver for Intel Core CPU's my cpu is an T2400 Intel Core (w/o Duo). i have csup'ed the stable build from cvsup.uk.freebsd.org at this night. then built the entire system via sources ( with ULE-Scheduler, might this causes the stall?) then load the coretemp.ko with kldload and try to quest the temperature with sysctl -a|grep temperature after this, i put coretemp_load=YES to my /boot/loader.conf up to this point all things are very good ( and the new release seems to me faster then 6.2) now with an new buildworld with cd /usr/src; make -j 8 buildworld ~/fbsd/mw.out and in another xterm a sysctl -a |grep temp causes the system stalls. this error ist reproducable many times. now i have tryed the sysctl -a|grep temp during an buildworld w/o the coretemp module loaded and the system runs stable. i hope this informations help to fix. regards michael -- === m i c h a e l - s c h u h . n e t === Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to amd64 requires recompilation of ports?
Hi, i have another Way that might be good, also for remote take over. You know Colin's depenguinator? I have made my own new depenguinator, that could install a complete base-system by building it on another box. Anyone interested? I have written an Howto, that is at the time not online. cheers michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2
Hello Albert, Hello @list, first, i be a native german speaker, so please excuse my ugly english. Greetings everyone... I am observing what appears to be a similar problem as well... I have a dedicated server with *very* light traffic. It looks like every day or so my server load slowly climbs from 0.20 to 14.00 and then stays there indefinitely locking down the system [until I do an apachectl restart] after which the server load drops back down. I'm not getting any weird Fatal Errors from PHP or any Warnings [though a lot of PHP Notices.]. The apache httpd_error.log shows the following error, usually, when the slow climb to 14.00 server load begins: httpd in free(): error: recursive call httpd in free(): error: recursive call [Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] --8---snip---8--- I have experiences with an similar Problem with apache in combination with php4 and it's modules. If you have the wrong modules / order of modules in the extensions.ini so that apache disappears with segfault ( my be signal 6 or 11 ) if you try an reload. hope this helps a little bit. greetings michael -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changing Console Resolution - Vidcontrol
Hi, first i understand your need's right! More Text on screen at boot time, but i have never get this working at boot time, but directly after boot. In my case my Kernels would be compiles with: options SC_PIXEL_MODE and in /boot/loader.conf vesa_load=YES and in /etc/rc.conf something like this: keymap=german.iso font8x16=iso15-8x16 font8x14=iso15-8x14 font8x8=iso15-8x8 allscreens_flag=MODE_280 In my case with german keyboard, change these things to your needs. The allscreens_flag you could get as mentoided in other answers with vidcontrol -i mode, i remember that someone has tell you to use MODE_279, but i doesn't know if this is the best case for all cards. For a single test you can set the mode from one terminal (like ttyv0) after logging in with vidcontrol MODE_280 or that likes to your modes for your Graphiccard. If anyone else knows how we can set the vid-mode at boot-time so that the bootmessages are every time in such a mode tell me please how it works. In the Kernel NOTEs i have only found a line like options VGA_WIGTH90, but thi is not my desired resolution. cheers michael -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing Console Resolution - Vidcontrol
Hi Kevin, hi @list, ok losing data in output is not really nice, in my experiences i don't lose lines, they get not displayed, if i use scroll-lock and pg-up, i can see the lines they was on the screen before i change the mode. If you need more lines in buffer (esp. to supress losing lines) you can change the default (200 lines) in your kernels. take a look at /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/i386/conf/NOTES, search SC*BUFFER but keep in mind this can make a slideshow like teleporting on your console :-D (remembers me to ego-shooters and jump'n'run games) (only to be complete..) Yes i agree with they peoples that mentoid to using X and/or ssh/xterms, but i could understand the needs for getting more data and less confusion on starting up the servers. Sometimes, proably in testing, we sitting directly on the console(sometimes up on the box :-D) and we would see whats going on on boot time, so we can interrupt something more quickly. And yes, i stay very close to those who say X or graphical UI has nothing to search on a server, it uses some ressources they are assigned to services. cheers michael 2007/4/6, Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:57:09 +0200 From: Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, first i understand your need's right! More Text on screen at boot time, but i have never get this working at boot time, but directly after boot. In my case my Kernels would be compiles with: options SC_PIXEL_MODE and in /boot/loader.conf vesa_load=YES and in /etc/rc.conf something like this: keymap=german.iso font8x16=iso15-8x16 font8x14=iso15-8x14 font8x8=iso15-8x8 allscreens_flag=MODE_280 In my case with german keyboard, change these things to your needs. The allscreens_flag you could get as mentoided in other answers with vidcontrol -i mode, i remember that someone has tell you to use MODE_279, but i doesn't know if this is the best case for all cards. For a single test you can set the mode from one terminal (like ttyv0) after logging in with vidcontrol MODE_280 or that likes to your modes for your Graphiccard. If anyone else knows how we can set the vid-mode at boot-time so that the bootmessages are every time in such a mode tell me please how it works. In the Kernel NOTEs i have only found a line like options VGA_WIGTH90, but thi is not my desired resolution. I used to do this, but I discovered that my scrollback buffer lost th 24 lines in the screen when the mode changes and I couldn't live with that. It would be nice to have the display at boot time, but, if I did not lose data, I would be happy to have it from when it starts. In any case, I figure that people who want X, will go with X. Some folks still like a plain old command-line console. I use X, but I don't start with xdm, kdm, or any other. I still like to see what is happening and enter 'startx' when I am good and ready. Sometimes I am not ready for the entire session. I don't always want all of X sitting between me and my CLI. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing Console Resolution - Vidcontrol
Hi Kevin, yes you are right my systems also loses lines, i believe that the mechanics in vidcontrol or in the kernels syscons device are the sources of this behaviour ...because through the init ( blanks screen and set mode ).. About the buffer at this time I am not really sure, but in the kernel's NOTES files it is setted per default to 200. I think you are right with the scrollback buffer that was the thing that i mean. you could have a slideshow or teleporting effect on some slow graphic cards, or on cards that not fully supports vesa while you scrolling through the screens, because if you use the vesa driver the output could be slower while having more overhead.. ...read also the postings in the stable-list ( I think from oliver fromme).. hmmm, if this behavior (losing lines) could not turned out by options or configuring the mode directly after loading the vesa module, I think it is a bug and we should enter it to the GNATS bugtracker but first we call help in the list :-) Could anyone, that is deeper in the woods, shed us some light on this behavior and eventually a possible solution? cheers michael -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another error with md malloc based fs
Hi Oliver, Hi @list, yes that's exatly what i have in my mind, after the explainings from Chuck. thanks very much cheers michael 2007/3/23, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Schuh wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: Michael Schuh wrote: i can't understand how malloc can eat all available memory, i have 2Gigs of it ;-) so it seems to me i know what i doing, if i have 1,6 Gigs free Memory, and i say ok get me 750Megs from my 1,6 Gigs of free Memory, what was faulty on that The two choices involve a swap-based RAMdisk, which can use all of the available physical RAM it needs to, since this memory is swappable, or a kernel-memory-based RAMdisk, which uses wired-down memory from within the kernel. Ok, so that is it harder to understand for me in the first time, if i understand it now right the swap or file based memory backend is also in the ram, but it get another way managed from kernels vm. the malloc based ramdisk get's not reallly managed by the kvm, but it underlays under the paging and swapping, and also ba the thread-killer there shot's thread down it it get's to much work for the system i hope i understand this right, it is important for me... Let me try to explain it with a little different words. The following is a bit simplified, but it should give you an idea about the advantages and disadvantages of each md disk type. First of all, _both_ malloc and swap-backed md disks are RAM disks. You don't have to worry that a swap-backed md disk will be created on your swap partiton. It's not. It will reside in RAM, just like a malloc md disk. However, the difference is that a malloc md disk uses memory from the KVM area (kernel virtual memory), which is hardwired into the RAM. It cannot be paged, and it is taken from the kernel's own memory pool, which is usually much smaller than your total available RAM. It's taken from the same pool of RAM that's used for network buffers, driver data and similar things. On the other hand, swap-backed md disks use regular memory, so to speak, just like a normal user process. That also means that they are pageable, which means that they can be paged to swap if necessary (if the systems runs low on RAM). That's what swap-backed means. Because of that, they don't have a size limit (well, they shouldn't be bigger than your RAM + swap, of course). If there is enough RAM, then they will stay completely in RAM and will _not_ touch your swap at all. For typical RAM disks, such as for /tmp, you should use a swap-backed md disk (it should be the default). The malloc type should be used only for rather small, special uses. I hope it's now a little clearer. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd [...] one observation we can make here is that Python makes an excellent pseudocoding language, with the wonderful attribute that it can actually be executed. -- Bruce Eckel -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
another error with md malloc based fs
Hi, first i have 2GB of RAM, there are be 1,6G free so it should enough toi make the following: # mdconfig -a -t mallo -s 750m -u 0 # bsdlabel -w /dev/md0 # bsdlabel -e /dev/md0 (create a slice to use all free respective first 16 blocks) # newfs -O2 -U /dev/md0a mount /dev/md0a /mnt # cd to_a_place/with/650MB_of_data/ # tar -cf - |( cd /mnt/; tar -xf -) after ~256MB transferred i get following errors, and the system crashes horridble first it doesnt react of anything, then it does silently reboot without a shutdown...leaves all unclean extract from all.log Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=686899200 , length=131072)]error = 28 Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=687030272 , length=131072)]error = 28 Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=687161344 , length=131072)]error = 28 Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=687292416 , length=131072)]error = 28 Any impressions, suggestions or limitations for md with malloc? This errors occures also if i request to reserve the space by creation thanks regards michael -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another error with md malloc based fs
Hi, ok i don't know this joke, kbut i know the word's you have two options option a and option b. i can't understand how malloc can eat all available memory, i have 2Gigs of it ;-) so it seems to me i know what i doing, if i have 1,6 Gigs free Memory, and i say ok get me 750Megs from my 1,6 Gigs of free Memory, what was faulty on that that would imply for me i can't use my 2 Gigs of ram... and hardliners view it also implies that you can put as many ram as you can find, and you can never use that ram, while a programm says: hey guy you are not knowing what you doing.. YOU would use 750Megs of you 24Gigs Ram, no, you are dumb, you don't use this /hardliners view i would use my 2 Gigs of ram, in that way i like :-D i would a very fast temporary filesystem in my ram. not more, not less. and the other question is i have a OS that say's i am a release, and the documentation say you can do this, who say don't do this? i have read the thread abaut malloc, but the errors described are not the samei have enough ram. (so show it to me :-D errare humanum est, is it?) i hope it gave another way to use such ram-disk without using swap or other harddisk based backendotoh my ram is not fully useful for me and i must, after twelve years of using freebsd, looking back to linux, and that i never would, only for using ramdisks thanks regards michael 2007/3/23, Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:04:16 +0100 From: Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, first i have 2GB of RAM, there are be 1,6G free so it should enough toi make the following: # mdconfig -a -t mallo -s 750m -u 0 # bsdlabel -w /dev/md0 # bsdlabel -e /dev/md0 (create a slice to use all free respective first 16 blocks) # newfs -O2 -U /dev/md0a mount /dev/md0a /mnt # cd to_a_place/with/650MB_of_data/ # tar -cf - |( cd /mnt/; tar -xf -) after ~256MB transferred i get following errors, and the system crashes horridble first it doesnt react of anything, then it does silently reboot without a shutdown...leaves all unclean extract from all.log Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=686899200 , length=131072)]error = 28 Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=687030272 , length=131072)]error = 28 Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=687161344 , length=131072)]error = 28 Mar 22 22:08:14 flying-dutchman kernel: g_vfs_done():md0a[WRITE(offset=687292416 , length=131072)]error = 28 Any impressions, suggestions or limitations for md with malloc? This errors occures also if i request to reserve the space by creation thanks regards michael -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old, old joke: Patient: Doctor! It hurts when I do this! Doctor: Don't do that. This is a well known issue with malloc backed md disks. Use swap backed ones. They will be the default in V7. They have all of the advantages of malloc backed mds without the possibility of eating all available memory and crashing the system. malloc backed md disks are very dangerous and should only be used in special circumstances and with great care. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another error with md malloc based fs
Hi Chuck, 2007/3/23, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mar 22, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Michael Schuh wrote: i can't understand how malloc can eat all available memory, i have 2Gigs of it ;-) so it seems to me i know what i doing, if i have 1,6 Gigs free Memory, and i say ok get me 750Megs from my 1,6 Gigs of free Memory, what was faulty on that The two choices involve a swap-based RAMdisk, which can use all of the available physical RAM it needs to, since this memory is swappable, or a kernel-memory-based RAMdisk, which uses wired-down memory from within the kernel. Ok, so that is it harder to understand for me in the first time, if i understand it now right the swap or file based memory backend is also in the ram, but it get another way managed from kernels vm. the malloc based ramdisk get's not reallly managed by the kvm, but it underlays under the paging and swapping, and also ba the thread-killer there shot's thread down it it get's to much work for the system i hope i understand this right, it is important for me... You shouldn't or can't create huge kernel-based RAMdisks without expanding the amount of KVM available to the kernel...it's not reasonable to wire down hundreds of MB or RAM in almost all situations. i hope it gave another way to use such ram-disk without using swap or other harddisk based backendotoh my ram is not fully useful for me and i must, after twelve years of using freebsd, looking back to linux, and that i never would, only for using ramdisks If you wanted to create a 10MB RAMdisk, using kernel-based memory would be fine. For things which are much larger than that, the kernel's global VM management is using techniques like page-fault frequency heuristics and will do a better job of keeping active stuff cached in RAM (regardless of whether the stuff is part of a running process or part of your RAMdisk filesystem), if you let the kernel manage the situation than if you try to configure hundreds of MB which can only be used for a RAMdisk. Anyway, if you want to use Linux instead, nobody here is going to try to persuade you to do otherwise. Have fun, nop, i don't runaway, i don't disappear to run over to dead rats :-D i will stick to FreeBSD, than i believe it gave no better OS for me :-D i have many fun with my lovely BSD. at this time it gave only one situation in that i use linux and i hope this changes i the near future (VMWare:-( ) thanks for helping to see things a little bit more clear regards michael -- -Chuck -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another error with md malloc based fs
hi Chuck, hi @list me again, behind the scenes, i would take over my Server by an hoster from Linux to FreeBSD on the running system, while the hoster takes money for pressing 2 buttons and put a disk in my Server...so i create now a mfs based system that can bootet from disk and resides fully in ram. I have tryed out Colin's depenguinator, but it fails...some times now i would do the steps by hand thanks cheers michael 2007/3/23, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mar 22, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Michael Schuh wrote: i can't understand how malloc can eat all available memory, i have 2Gigs of it ;-) so it seems to me i know what i doing, if i have 1,6 Gigs free Memory, and i say ok get me 750Megs from my 1,6 Gigs of free Memory, what was faulty on that The two choices involve a swap-based RAMdisk, which can use all of the available physical RAM it needs to, since this memory is swappable, or a kernel-memory-based RAMdisk, which uses wired-down memory from within the kernel. You shouldn't or can't create huge kernel-based RAMdisks without expanding the amount of KVM available to the kernel...it's not reasonable to wire down hundreds of MB or RAM in almost all situations. i hope it gave another way to use such ram-disk without using swap or other harddisk based backendotoh my ram is not fully useful for me and i must, after twelve years of using freebsd, looking back to linux, and that i never would, only for using ramdisks If you wanted to create a 10MB RAMdisk, using kernel-based memory would be fine. For things which are much larger than that, the kernel's global VM management is using techniques like page-fault frequency heuristics and will do a better job of keeping active stuff cached in RAM (regardless of whether the stuff is part of a running process or part of your RAMdisk filesystem), if you let the kernel manage the situation than if you try to configure hundreds of MB which can only be used for a RAMdisk. Anyway, if you want to use Linux instead, nobody here is going to try to persuade you to do otherwise. Have fun, -- -Chuck -- === michael-schuh.net === Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Ust-ID: DE251072318 === ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Failover-HA-Setup
Hi Richard, if you are searching a native Cluster filesystem, so your chances are not really good. But if you would setup a really HA-Solution w/o SPOF so you can use CODA-FS. (but hold in mind this has its own price - performance - ) Coda is an successor/fork of the legendary AFS (think from Andrew Morton?) and IBM. With Coda you can figure out an Network-Filesystem- server with replication and local caching, so you can get the required filesystem for mysql mounted rw at boot-time and you have only to start mysql-server with the suggestet commands and configurations. For coda look in the ports or at: http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/ i have planned out some tests with it in the near future, but no practices at this time. My knowledge is only based on the documentation. greetings michael -- michael-schuh.net Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chat(8) doesn't parse special strings correctly
Hi Ian, Hi @stable, thanks this helps me to, but it doesn't correct the error in chat :-; thank you regards michael 2006/12/7, Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This probably belongs in -questions, but .. On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Michael Schuh wrote: i update my ppp.conf to set speed 115200 #set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\ AT\ OK-AT-OK AT%C3M0E1Q0%G1%B56000 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT set dial REPORT CONNECT ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\ AT\ OK-AT-OK AT%C3M0E1Q0%G1%B56000 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT man say's this is the right way to log any answer after CONNECT like 4/LANP/V.42bis. But with the above configuration chat says: Dec 7 03:20:52 brenner ppp[2691]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Dec 7 03:20:52 brenner ppp[2691]: tun0: Chat: Expect(30): REPORT Dec 7 03:20:56 brenner ppp[2691]: tun0: Phase: Signal 15, terminate. after digging in the source it seem's to me that chat doesn't really parse the special string REPORT and ABORT correctly, but i am not really sure. I don't know about 'REPORT', but I've always used something like: set log +connect +chat set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER ABORT NO\\sDIAL TIMEOUT 5 \\ \ ATZ OK-ATZ-OK ATE0Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\ \T TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT \\c \\n where the \\c \\n catches data till newline after the CONNECT, eg: Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Dial attempt 1 Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Expecting: Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Sending: ATZ^M Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Expecting: OK-ATZ-OK Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Wait for (5): OK Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ^M Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: OK Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Sending: ATE0Q0^M Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Expecting: OK-AT-OK Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Wait for (5): OK Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ^M Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ATE0Q0^M^M Dec 7 01:58:42 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: OK Dec 7 01:58:44 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Phase: Phone: Dec 7 01:58:44 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Sending: ATDT^M Dec 7 01:58:44 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Expecting: CONNECT Dec 7 01:58:44 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Wait for (60): CONNECT Dec 7 01:58:44 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: CARRIER 49333^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: PROTOCOL: LAP-M^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: COMPRESSION: V.42BIS^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: ^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: CONNECT Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Sending: Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Expecting: \n Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Chat: Wait for (60): \n -- Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: 49333/ARQ^M Dec 7 01:59:14 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Connect: Dec 7 01:59:15 gaia ppp[6018]: tun0: Phase: NewPhase: Authenticate HTH, Ian -- michael-schuh.net Michael Schuh Preußenstr. 13 66111 Saarbrücken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
chat(8) doesn't parse special strings correctly
Hello, i update my ppp.conf to set speed 115200 #set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\ AT\ OK-AT-OK AT%C3M0E1Q0%G1%B56000 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT set dial REPORT CONNECT ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\ AT\ OK-AT-OK AT%C3M0E1Q0%G1%B56000 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT man say's this is the right way to log any answer after CONNECT like 4/LANP/V.42bis. But with the above configuration chat says: Dec 7 03:20:52 brenner ppp[2691]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Dec 7 03:20:52 brenner ppp[2691]: tun0: Chat: Expect(30): REPORT Dec 7 03:20:56 brenner ppp[2691]: tun0: Phase: Signal 15, terminate. after digging in the source it seem's to me that chat doesn't really parse the special string REPORT and ABORT correctly, but i am not really sure. can anyone shed me some light on this or give me hints on this problem? google tells me not the right informations... thanks cheers michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scope of Variables in sh
Hello,
i have a little problem with the
scope of sheel variables in an script.
the script shows like:
#!/bin/sh
objectcountfile=/data2/scout/objects
objectsum=/data2/scout/objcount
sometime=5
initialize()
{
[ ! -e $objectsum ] touch $objectsum
}
#
countobjects()
{
myline=0
cat $objectcountfile|grep -v ^[^0-9]*$|grep -v ^0$| while read line
do
myline=`expr $myline + $line`
echo $myline $objectsum
done
}
initialize
while true
do
countobjects
clear
echo bla bla
cat $objectsum
sleep $sometime
done
##end script
this script does what i want, but, i dont really want put
the count ($myline) every time he changes in $objectsum.
this wasnt really neccessary only the result over all interests me.
so my first script was
##
countobjects()
{
myline=0
cat $objectcountfile|grep -v ^[^0-9]*$|grep -v ^0$| while read line
do
myline=`expr $myline + $line`
done
echo $myline $objectsum
}
##
but this doesnt function right. so i see the behavior from $myline in the
while-loop like an local variable..
i have searched in man-pages and in google but i have
not really good points found.
Can anyone give me an ligthshed on this problem?
Please answer me directly, i be out of freebsd-hackers.
thanks
michael
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Re: Scope of Variables in sh
Hello Bob,
Hello @Lists,
countobjects()
{
myline=0
cat $objectcountfile|grep -v ^[^0-9]*$|grep -v ^0$|
awk '{myline += $1} END {print myline}' $objectsum
}
this gave me the right behavior.
THX
i ve forgotten that the piping opens another subshell,
so it is clearly logical that the 2 variables have the same name,
but are not identical :-)
thanks for all
michael
2006/6/1, Bob Willcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 04:28:39PM +0200, Michael Schuh wrote:
Hello,
i have a little problem with the
scope of sheel variables in an script.
the script shows like:
#!/bin/sh
objectcountfile=/data2/scout/objects
objectsum=/data2/scout/objcount
sometime=5
initialize()
{
[ ! -e $objectsum ] touch $objectsum
}
#
countobjects()
{
myline=0
cat $objectcountfile|grep -v ^[^0-9]*$|grep -v ^0$| while read line
do
myline=`expr $myline + $line`
echo $myline $objectsum
done
}
initialize
while true
do
countobjects
clear
echo bla bla
cat $objectsum
sleep $sometime
done
##end script
this script does what i want, but, i dont really want put
the count ($myline) every time he changes in $objectsum.
this wasnt really neccessary only the result over all interests me.
so my first script was
##
countobjects()
{
myline=0
cat $objectcountfile|grep -v ^[^0-9]*$|grep -v ^0$| while read line
do
myline=`expr $myline + $line`
done
echo $myline $objectsum
}
##
but this doesnt function right. so i see the behavior from $myline in the
while-loop like an local variable..
With:
while ...
do
...
done
The statements within the do...done sequence are run in a subshell and
therefore all variables referenced by those statements are local to
that subshell. Consequently, the myline variable that is outside of the
do...done sequence is a *different* variable (and will still be null in
your example).
I'm not sure what your data looks like, but one possible solution would
be to use awk to read the lines and do the addition, perhaps like this:
countobjects()
{
myline=0
cat $objectcountfile|grep -v ^[^0-9]*$|grep -v ^0$|
awk '{myline += $1} END {print myline}' $objectsum
}
Note that I didn't actually run the above code, but I think it's
correct, and if not, it should be pretty close to what you need.
Of course, you could replace the cat and 2 greps with some additional
awk stuff (and improve performance), but I wanted to keep it as simple
and close to your example as possible.
i have searched in man-pages and in google but i have
not really good points found.
Can anyone give me an ligthshed on this problem?
Please answer me directly, i be out of freebsd-hackers.
I recommend some good shell awk programming books.
Hope this helps,
Bob
thanks
michael
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Re: Needs suggestion for redundant Storage
CARP can let you failover an IP address and ggated provides remote access to a physical disk device but the combination will not give you a fault tolerant server. One major problem is that you will lose the content of the cache when a system fails - this amounts to roughly the last 30 seconds of data written (though the write-through behaviour of NFS may mitigate this). Other potential problems are: Loss of connection state - NFS is stateless but lockd and mountd retain client state information so you will lose any client locks and the server may object to being presented with filehandles that were issued by a different host. Handling the failure of the inactive host - you will need to identify the behaviour when the remote part of your mirror becomes inaccessible. Yes, i agree, that was the reason why i would use ggated whit carp and geom mirror, but the problem was the mount of the shared filesystem carp..if the machine or the netif goes to hell ggated to mirror the shared disks over the network with gmirror if one disk fails gmirror noticed that and let me show them And none of the above protects against filesystem corruption. Cheap hardware presumably means that you won't be using ECC RAM and there will me minimal (if any) protection against data corruption on the various busses. The odd bit-flip will be virtually undetectable until someone notices that their data is corrupt. i agree also with thembut i can not have all the things another solution to prevent that was an cluster-tool that mirrors files not filesystems over the net may be i should make a try or think over another solution... Without backups, you can't recover from any problems - user errors or system errors. I'm certain the lack of backups _will_ become the focus as soon as something valuable is lost. And given the sort of dodgy setup you want to construct, that may not take long. yes i know, and i be not there friend, backup is my friend by any problem with the boxesbut this comes later if the money is there :-) or the management will spend the money Read the mailing lists - they are full of problems with them. If you value your data you will not use Sil controller. yes, this do i also know, but if i have a lot of them, and 2 falls out, so what happens if i had another box with my data? The data is just as likely to be garbled on the remote system as well. I don't think people are saying that the Sil controllers stop working, they just don't work reliably so you can't rely on any data that has been handled by a Sil controller. Oh that was fist not my idea, the management has questioned these features, in have said OMG you aore not serious, but is it.. :-(( so that is better for me and my job to make what management wishes, later i can say.i have you warned.. You need to write a memo to your management that clearly points out the risks. Keep a notarised copy for yourself and make sure yout CV is up to date. You can rest assured that you will be the scaegoat when it all goes wrong. *grin* that was also an good idea, the first disagreement i have made past days...the next follows if the etat-management begins. i would sort the costs for possibiliy disaster recovery in relativiness of costs of data-corruption (in the cas all data goes to hell) i think then comes the right thinking back. i think the best question for that to the management was: what if the data goes to /dev/null by any failure fo the Hardware, and keep in mind, we do not have any backup. regars michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maximum Swapsize
2006/4/10, Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello @all, last weekend i have setted up an new Machine with 6.1-Beta4. By Installation i have made an Swappartition with the size of 4GB after install in runtime in top it sseems to me that the maximum swap-size is limitied to 2GB or better to INT_MAX ? At another MAchine with FreeBSD4.11 i have a Swap-Partition with 1GB size and an Swap-File with 8 GB size, all seem fine top let me show: Mem: 418M Active, 318M Inact, 193M Wired, 40M Cache, 108M Buf, 1960K Free Swap: 9216M Total, 257M Used, 8959M Free, 2% Inuse Is these setting correct for RELENG_6 or 6.1-Beta4, and get the (default) maxsize for Swap-Partitions increased? thanks for any help best regards Michael It seems to me that i have me not right supressed. My Problem is not the way to find the right swapsize for me or better for my Server with the running Applications. My Problem was that i can't show my configured swapsize right... Partitionsize for swap was 4GB Showing Value was 2GB, and my question (tail) is answered by the first posting from Kris kris Of course if you actually use this much swap your machine will be incomparably slow.. The old swap size = 2x RAM rule is no longer applicable unless you have a very special application. IMO if you end up using more than 512MB of swap you need more RAM, or less applications :) /kris and the other was have i made any failure by partitioning, respective labeling the disk.. or ist there any known Problem with swapsizes over 2G. I think i have made an failure by the partitioning (bsdlabel) the disk by right calculate the blocks for swap.. so that i can say at this time it was mostly my wrong handling that ha sshowing me the wrong suggested value. But if i have the Box already in my fingers i would show the values again and double check thesei don't think that FreeBSD has made this failure...:-) BSD can't make mistakes :-) for me the rigth value for Swap depend on the amount of ram in relativiness of what application should be to run. par example: if you running Zope and tomcat on the same Machine with 4 to 10 Plone frontends in Zope you can get running out of swap with 1GRAM and 2GSWAP.. only my experiences regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Needs suggestion for redundant Storage
You probably can't replace defective hardware so fast that the users don't notice. They will probably also notice when a system crash garbles the filesystem. that was the reason why i would make a mirrored system with CARP and ggated... Based on your comments of low cost and massive size, I presume you can't afford a proper backup solution either. This is a recipe for disaster if the data is valuable. yes, i can't backup this amount of data at this moment, but this was not the focus...yet Do not get a Silicon Image SATA controller. Why not? Read the mailing lists - they are full of problems with them. If you value your data you will not use Sil controller. yes, this do i also know, but if i have a lot of them, and 2 falls out, so what happens if i had another box with my data? i know my job moves mor to disaster recovery than to administer but we can't get all the things that we wish. At the very least, get a multiport SATA RAID controller with a decent-sized RAM cache of its own and an internal battery to keep the drives going until that cache can be flushed. As well as an external UPS, right...? I can also agree with you...but the management..get not my friends with this... :-)) They will be even less your friends when your cheap-n-nasty solution loses some valuable files. Oh that was fist not my idea, the management has questioned these features, in have said OMG you aore not serious, but is it.. :-(( so that is better for me and my job to make what management wishes, later i can say.i have you warned.. but thanks for these suggestions, that gives me more arguments for my suggested solutions..NAS/SAN.. regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Needs suggestion for redundant Storage
Hello Chuck, Hello @all, 2006/4/7, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Schuh wrote: Hi everyone, i need suggestions and hints about an redundant storage-system. My requirements are: a Storage that is available via Network, flexible in scalation, and must be redundant, and cheap if possible My Own suggestion was this scenario: 2 boxes very cheap for ~300$ 2 or more SATA-II-Controller ~30$(SIL) 4 or more Disks with 200-250GB ~100$/piece You've obviously chosen to prioritize cheap above anything else with these recommendations. :-) You simply can't spend less than a grand and expect to get even one decent fileserver, much less a pair of machines. yes, the reason why i choose cheap HW is that we could get in the future an the pressure to spread the load from one to many syttems and the amount of Data to get very big, but is is no database-solution and the file-size grows up to 20-100MB but the Count fo Files can grow from many thousands up to many millions or billions. So that the right solution for this was a good SAN-System. But the Costs can't pushed to the Customers so that an relatively simple and chead solution must do the Work from an good SAN-System. My Projektleader would buy DELL-Machines, but in the fact of the work they then do the costs get bored, and also our Projekt.Manager an the financier get bored:-( so that i have sign a Solution with cheap HW, ok this cheap HW is not very stable and never so performant like the right Hardware, but if i use this solution, so i can relative fast replace defect items with new HW. The other plus is i hold over 2-3 years everytime relatively actual hardware-systems. And i agree with you if you say the costs over the years are more then the invest into rellay good hardware, but that is at this time not possible...:-( Do not get a Silicon Image SATA controller. Why not? I usse one in my HOME-Box. Ok it has only 8K buffer for tagged Command queue, and it is not the fasten, but he is cheap an do his job (for a time :-) in general i agree with you it is smarter to use a Controller designed for Men's not for Boys. :-) If you want to value redundancy and the ability to scale, you ought to look at NAS or SAN systems, such as NetApp filers, or maybe even an Apple Xserve and a Fibre-channel switch. yes i can also agree with you but the terms of condistions are described above, and dissallow this at the time Even if you're not willing to pay that much, you should at least consider what those solutions offer for their pricepoints, and then decide what your data is worth to you and what your requirements should be. At the very least, get a multiport SATA RAID controller with a decent-sized RAM cache of its own and an internal battery to keep the drives going until that cache can be flushed. As well as an external UPS, right...? I can also agree with you...but the management..get not my friends with this... :-)) -- -Chuck thanks and regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maximum Swapsize
Hello @all, last weekend i have setted up an new Machine with 6.1-Beta4. By Installation i have made an Swappartition with the size of 4GB after install in runtime in top it sseems to me that the maximum swap-size is limitied to 2GB or better to INT_MAX ? At another MAchine with FreeBSD4.11 i have a Swap-Partition with 1GB size and an Swap-File with 8 GB size, all seem fine top let me show: Mem: 418M Active, 318M Inact, 193M Wired, 40M Cache, 108M Buf, 1960K Free Swap: 9216M Total, 257M Used, 8959M Free, 2% Inuse Is these setting correct for RELENG_6 or 6.1-Beta4, and get the (default) maxsize for Swap-Partitions increased? thanks for any help best regards Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Needs suggestion for redundant Storage
Hi everyone, i need suggestions and hints about an redundant storage-system. My requirements are: a Storage that is available via Network, flexible in scalation, and must be redundant, and cheap if possible My Own suggestion was this scenario: 2 boxes very cheap for ~300$ 2 or more SATA-II-Controller ~30$(SIL) 4 or more Disks with 200-250GB ~100$/piece the configuration that i think: the 2 boxes became 2 virtaul IP-Addresses for CARP to manage Master/Slave. the Extra SATA disks get configured wit geom as big volumes or any other configuration (not very important, but the 2 boxes should have the same configuration) the big-Volume created by geom/ccd/gvinum or any other should get mirrored over the Net to the other box.i think ggated/ggated get my best friends... Has anyone experiences or suggestion for those scenario? the only component that i has used today was gmirror.. thanks a lot for any Help. regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Splash
Hi, i have followed the thread in freebsd-stable. I would point you to my sources of splash-screen-handling, the second Page also offers some nice splash images, my preferred is emily_black_1024 http://wiki.unixboard.de/index.php/FreeBSD_-_Bootvorgang_verschönern/verkürzen http://www.baldwin.cx/splash/ my difference from loader.conf: vesa_load=YES # this allows other resolutions than 300x200 see also the man-page of vidcontrol and the output from vidcontrol -i mode|less best regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top doesn't show any Process in idle-Mode
Hello, sorry for the time ago, i haven't an FreeBSD-Box on my Work. The CLI-Optin -S doesn't really help me. I will test the patch from Stefan Esser, but i think my Problem are not alone SRUN-Proc's. if i run TOP with the CLI-Options -I -S so i should see Processes with status RUN and SRUN, if i was right. I have also running top described as above, and now i do a make -j 16 cleen cleandir cleandepend under /usr/src, so i unterstand things right i shoud see minimum 3 or more Processes with status RUN ( System was Sempron 2400 @1800MHz). But i shows only one and this very short, but if the system runs i could see an process named pagex, and if the system was idle i can see an process with status SRUN called idle So i get the time i will test the Patch from Stefan. If i getting new values and experiences i come back again. Tahnks to all and best regards michael 2006/1/30, Stefan Esser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2006-01-30 13:49 +0100, Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i use top mostly in idle-mode. # top return i or # top -I Under releng_6 (stable p4) and the older versions, i think down to releng_5, doesn't show a running process. I have tryed to dig in the source but my experiences are not so good that i can find the possible error. See line 603 (in HEAD) of /usr/src/usr.bin/top/machine.c: if (displaymode == DISP_CPU !show_idle (pp-ki_pctcpu == 0 || pp-ki_stat != SRUN)) /* skip idle or non-running processes */ continue; Since I do not like the current behaviour, I considered removing the test for state SRUN. But I guess that the teest can not be completely eliminated. Instead of selecting only SRUN, some states may need to be suppressed (SZOMB, possibly also SIDL, SSTOP). I'll test the following version on my system: if (displaymode == DISP_CPU !show_idle (pp-ki_pctcpu == 0 || pp-ki_stat == SZOMB || pp-ki_stat == SSTOP)) /* skip idle or non-running processes */ continue; Has anyone same experiences made with top, or has anyone a workaround (please not like while true) Patch included (not verified to apply to 5.x or 6.x, but editing the test in place should be easy, then). Regards, STefan --- /usr/src/usr.bin/top/machine.c 18 May 2005 13:42:51 - 1.74 +++ /usr/src/usr.bin/top/machine.c 30 Jan 2006 14:26:08 - @@ -601,7 +601,7 @@ continue; if (displaymode == DISP_CPU !show_idle - (pp-ki_pctcpu == 0 || pp-ki_stat != SRUN)) + (pp-ki_pctcpu == 0 || pp-ki_stat == SZOMB || pp-ki_stat == SSTOP)) /* skip idle or non-running processes */ continue; ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top doesn't show any Process in idle-Mode
Hello, i use top mostly in idle-mode. # top return i or # top -I Under releng_6 (stable p4) and the older versions, i think down to releng_5, doesn't show a running process. I have tryed to dig in the source but my experiences are not so good that i can find the possible error. Has anyone same experiences made with top, or has anyone a workaround (please not like while true) thanks to all regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Questions about geom-gate and RAID1/10 and CARP
Hello, i have searched informations about geom-gate and RAID1 or Raid10 over TCP/IP. But nothing relevant found, so that i write the questions here. My opinion/scenario that i thinked out: i Have 2 Machines Host A and Host B, both Machines have 2 Networkinterfaces, one official and one private. The official interfaces getting bound with CARP for traffic, so that peoples think they connect's to one Machine. So that i get, for this case, a high-availibility-solution on CARP-Base. The private interfaces get to be used to derive my data from one Machine to the other Machine, and also spend the possibility to watch the other Machine. To this point everything is clear for me, so let us go to the more complex part. In the description above i be suppressed to derive the shared-data for booth machines from one to another. My idea was to build an RAID1 or RAID10 over the Network by using geom-gate and vinum respective gvinum. Has anyone any experiences with geom-gate and doing RAID1 or RAID10 over TCP/IP? And has anyone a good solution in Production use? My Questions about these thema are: a) Is this generally possible with FreeBSD ? b)is this generally a good idea ? c)how must i setup the RAID? d)who must build the raid? Host A? Host B? or BOTH? e) can i use this way to become an HA-Solution? I have searched in the Web about these questions, but nothing found. Only things that i have found was Mirroring (local) and mode generals related to local work with geom. Thanks for help. regards Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timecounter and Hz quality in kern RELENG_6
Hello, thanks to Oliver and Michael for explain me the mechanics behind timecounter and Hz quality. I have send the question, why i have to wonder about different IRQ-Counts but same HZ. It is really thaat HZ on both machines is the same. I have only knowed the old behavior. I set the HZ over Options HZ in my Kernelconfig, and then i could see that the IRQCount's on clk are alwas the same value as HZ +- a few tics. So that i have thinked ( and feeled on busy machines) that the IRQ-work is more smooth and they are less holes in responsitivity if the HZ is going to an Value 1000. So i have alwas set HZ to 2000 on every machine. If i have the answers and the mechanics behind timecounter and Hz quality right understand, so i have no more modify the HZ Value to become an smooth polling of the interupts. if i be right the smooth behavior comes with the calculation from Hz quality. Please correct me if i am wrong. thanks to all and best regards michael 2005/11/7, Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, i be very surprised about the performance of RELENG_6. Congratulations to the entire Team for this very good work. Now i have 2 Machines installed with 6.0-RC1, and i have seen that on both machines the Hz is differntly with GENERIC-Kernel. Machine A is an Sempron 2400+ that runs as 2500+ (i have tuned the clock to best RAM-Performace) Machine B is an Duron 700MHz On Machine A i got an Hz from 2000 effectively systat -vmstat 1 show me 2000 IRQ/s on clk sysctl say's 1000i think, but not sure On Machine B i got an Hz from 1000 effectively systat-vmstat 1 show me 1000 IRQ/s on clk After digging in the source i have found that timec.c have an routine for computing the so called Hz quality. Can anyone explain me the mystics behind Hz quality, and why or how this quality is computed and what are the efforts? My knowledge is not deep enough to know these details. thanks best regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
timecounter and Hz quality in kern RELENG_6
Hello, i be very surprised about the performance of RELENG_6. Congratulations to the entire Team for this very good work. Now i have 2 Machines installed with 6.0-RC1, and i have seen that on both machines the Hz is differntly with GENERIC-Kernel. Machine A is an Sempron 2400+ that runs as 2500+ (i have tuned the clock to best RAM-Performace) Machine B is an Duron 700MHz On Machine A i got an Hz from 2000 effectively systat -vmstat 1 show me 2000 IRQ/s on clk sysctl say's 1000i think, but not sure On Machine B i got an Hz from 1000 effectively systat-vmstat 1 show me 1000 IRQ/s on clk After digging in the source i have found that timec.c have an routine for computing the so called Hz quality. Can anyone explain me the mystics behind Hz quality, and why or how this quality is computed and what are the efforts? My knowledge is not deep enough to know these details. thanks best regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Switching from RELENG_4 to newer Release that supports ia64
Hello, we plan to change the Hardware from one of our Servers Running RELENG_4. The New Hardware becomes CPU-Types Xeon w/ EM64 - ia64 architecture. Now i have no experiences to change the OS-Release under the ass from running Software (postfix/cyrus/postgresql/mysql/perletc.) I be also not sure what release-version should i take. My preferred opinion was to change to the upcoming RELENG_6, but i be not sure if this is really a good idea, second i have no documents found to migrate from RELENG_4 to RELENG_6. I know it gives a very good description of changing the underlying OS-Version to RELENG_5. Another possible change is the Change to DragonFlyBSD. But here is the same again, to less knowledge about this step. Can anyone point's me to an good description for this switching, or have anyone good experiences with the combinations of OS-Versions resp. OS-Types (in case of DragonFlyBSD) with running Software in production? Iportant to know is also that this is an Hot-Production-Server. Thanks for the suggestions. best regards Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RELENG_4 pam update doesn't work correct
Hello, yesterday i have made an cvsup from RELENG_4 and made the typically system-update with: make buildworld kernel mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster reboot portupgrade -ar Now i have problems with pam. the pam-modules and the Library-Archive libpam.a in /usr/lib are updated correctly. but the libpam.so.1 wasn't changed. the relied programs pam-pgsql pamtester dosn't work anymore, saslauthd (cyrus-sasl-saslauthd with -a pam flags) quit also with signal 10 and an core dump. After i have changed back to the old libs and modules all will work perfectly. Does anyone have any suggestion? best regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RELENG_4 pam update doesn't work correct
Hello, i have also opened a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85796 regards michael 2005/9/6, Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, yesterday i have made an cvsup from RELENG_4 and made the typically system-update with: make buildworld kernel mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster reboot portupgrade -ar Now i have problems with pam. the pam-modules and the Library-Archive libpam.a in /usr/lib are updated correctly. but the libpam.so.1 wasn't changed. the relied programs pam-pgsql pamtester dosn't work anymore, saslauthd (cyrus-sasl-saslauthd with -a pam flags) quit also with signal 10 and an core dump. After i have changed back to the old libs and modules all will work perfectly. Does anyone have any suggestion? best regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quality of FreeBSD
Hi, at this point i musttail my paint with you and the other's. I have really made a few tests on one big issue or RELENG_5. At the time as it was early enough to change things, but the guys they have me telled someone else have to fast machines to test ( in my eyes they should test on some sloweer hardware, to become the maximum performance) I have telled some guys the problems that i have found, these Problems are really important for other issues ( performance from applications etc.) but no one would really hear what i have to say, they telled me some unrelevant ( and many bullshit), and they think not before they speak. so that the result for me ist to wait on RELENG_6, so that i made one or two tests and if the tests do not perform in the right direction then i leave the FreeBSD and going back to Linux or switching eventually to DragonFly. Now my question to you : is the performance of ata-related disk-access under UFS-Filesystem not important for other application, so that the performance can be a half of them that RELENG_4 does? In fact under RELENG_4 i can write a GIG FIle double as fast as under RELENG_5 ! and i would not hear any thing about serial performance or that this is not really like the real world, if i syimulate that with: /usr/bin/time dd if=/dev/zero of=/zerofile bs=1024 count=1024k; this is reality poor! I know we gave all our best, but many people are more arrogant, and think not really... best regards Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI - RELENG_6 branch has been created
Hello Scott, i run into same Problem with Spamassassin and Perl v5.8.7. After a backport to 5.8.6_2 all thins run fine. I have no relly good reason found why the behavior is, but i have many hint's found that say's that this is a generally io-problem with perl v5.8.7. So that i have made a entry in my sup/refuse that i not running anymore into that Problem best regards Michael The other problem that will possibly affect more people is that SpamAssassin stopped working properly. This isn't a server, simply a workstation, using getmail and maildrop. I would get the following error Delivery error (command maildrop 65199 error (0, razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory IO::Socket::INET: connect: Operation not permitted ...propagated at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 447.)) msg 1/1 (1422 bytes), delivery error (command maildrop 65199 error (0, razor2 check skipped: No such file or directory IO::Socket::INET: connect: Operation not permitted ...propagated at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 447.)) 1 messages retrieved, 0 skipped Thinking that it was a simple perl thing and perhaps also connected with the libc.5 and 6, I first did a portupgrade -fRr of SpamAssassin. This didn't fix the problem. Eventually (and I don't have enough knowledge to know why this worked) I did another portupgrade -f of perl, then did a pkg_delete of SpamAssassin and all B and R deps save for perl. I then reinstalled SpamAssassin with the port reinstalling the deps. Then it worked. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux
Hi, i wouldn't start a principal discussion, but i have too? I have one Machine! and on this machine with identical Hardware, identical real! not same not side by side, real the same disk, processor, ram, board.. -- read my other postings, it's recommendet. on this machine i have made 4 installations on same disk, of 4 types/Versions of Os'es 1: RELENG_4 2: RELENG_5 3: Drangonfly_REL_1.2 4: GENTOO_2005_02 The disk was alway same partitioning: first 1G for Swap rest for system then i login in the system and made: # cd /; /usr/bin/time dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=1024k of=zerofile; rm zerofile then i install the next system from a dump on same disk so that i can compare the time-consumption on these 4 systems. i think dd ist not the best for performace-tests or something else, but dd is a handy tool for quick test what's going on with your system write/read-speedness. so other people have suggested me that dd was not everytime writes to the same parts of diske, while the underlying fs-drivers made other steps on other systems ( and other fs-types) I would only compare the performace from 2 Versions of FreeBSD, while i mean that the performance from RELENG_5 is more slower than under GENTOO and it is double as slow as under RELENG_4. i would not test the performance of my system, i would only compare. best regards michael 2005/6/28, Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:43, Roman Neuhauser wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2005-06-28 19:04:18 +0930: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:51, Roman Neuhauser wrote: No you don't. You want to make a side-by-side comparison of two products, and if one of them underperforms, it just underperforms. You cannot use a poor location selection strategy in the driver as an excuse for poor operation. dd is a useful start, but you shouldn't read too much into the results since, in general, dd doesn't reflect real world usage patterns. Huh? Various people have reacted to the dd doesn't reflect real world with but I *do* use dd in real world. Read what I said.. ... IN GENERAL ... -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux
Yes, i know that and i agree with them. that was the reason, why my disk is tiled on first physical Gigabyte for Swap, and the rest for the system my target was to compare 2 Versions not 2 Os-Types like FreeBSD and Linux, but FreeBSD and FreeBSD, in cases RELENG_4 with RELENG_5. so that the little difference between the different places for files, remember i install everytime at the beginning of second Gig on disk, should be flawlessy and not make the results so big, that the RELENG_4 has the double of speed from RELENG_5! best regards michael 2005/6/28, Paul Mather [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 11:21 +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2005-06-21 16:51:10 +0200: For accurate measurements and comparisons, you have to make sure to use _exactly_ the same physical location on the disk. No you don't. You want to make a side-by-side comparison of two products, and if one of them underperforms, it just underperforms. You cannot use a poor location selection strategy in the driver as an excuse for poor operation. The point people are making is that location can have a significant effect on performance, and so should not be dismissed out of hand. Here is what I get when I run diskinfo on one of the (somewhat elderly) disks I use in my desktop system (this is a drive I use for data, and it is idle): zappa# diskinfo -tv /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4 512 # sectorsize 25590620160 # mediasize in bytes (24G) 49981680# mediasize in sectors 49585 # Cylinders according to firmware. 16 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. Seek times: Full stroke: 250 iter in 5.159189 sec = 20.637 msec Half stroke: 250 iter in 4.206125 sec = 16.825 msec Quarter stroke: 500 iter in 7.151951 sec = 14.304 msec Short forward:400 iter in 2.794380 sec =6.986 msec Short backward: 400 iter in 4.135579 sec = 10.339 msec Seq outer: 2048 iter in 0.332711 sec =0.162 msec Seq inner: 2048 iter in 0.363152 sec =0.177 msec Transfer rates: outside: 102400 kbytes in 7.677977 sec =13337 kbytes/sec middle:102400 kbytes in 9.151475 sec =11189 kbytes/sec inside:102400 kbytes in 14.345492 sec = 7138 kbytes/sec Note how the transfer rate for the outside is almost twice that of the inside. Suppose I run tests on two different operating systems, one of which resides in a partition on the inside portion and the other in one on the outside portion. (Note that however good or bad it may be, the location selection strategy in the driver can only lay out data within the confines of the partition.) Now, I do a dd test and find that the outside OS is almost twice as fast as the other. Would it be wise to conclude that the slower OS is woefully inefficient compared to the faster one? Suppose both tests turn out to take roughly the same time. Should I conclude that the OS residing on the inside is just as efficient as the other OS? Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. --- Frank Vincent Zappa ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux
Hi Oliver, 2005/6/22, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now i have another question, if i use the same Os in 2 versions (RELENG_4, RELENG_5) can i hope that the tests are made on the same part of disk? yoda Hope you always can. But rely on it you should not. /yoda ;-) That's right. :-D or in other words can an dd on the two OS' es so much different because they use an totally other part of disk? I think no, the strategie from dd under one OS should not be changed if the OS-Version has changed. It's not the dd which decides where to put the file, it's the filesystem code. And yes, there can be differences between RELENG_4 and RELENG_5. In particular, in RELENG_5 you have UFS2, not the old UFS. There have always been changes to the FS code, for example I remember that the allocation of directories has changed some time ago to improve metadata performance for large trees (known as dirpref). As I said: The only way to make sure you hit the same physical place on the disk is to use a raw partition, not a file on some filesystem. Yes i have that understand. And that was the reason why i make in future these tests new with an raw-partition on the same part of disk. so that i never must hope, so i become knowledge and i know the facts :-D Note that even small differences in the placement of the file can have a noticeable effect on the speed. Apart from the speed differences of the disk cylinders, it can also happen that the file is allocated in a non-contiguous way, especially if it is large and the filesystem already contains a lot of files, and/or had a lot of write+delete operations previously (i.e. causing fragmentation). yes this is also clear for me, but in my case, it was only a small disk (8GB) and it has only the OS, nothing more, nothing less. And as i made these tests, i have all the performance for me and my OS. *gr* i be the master of disaster.. *lol* We should have all more humor...the life it's more funny.. the part with serial IO related to database-performance have i understand, but i quests me have the others understand my meanings? i must hope so :-D, i can not sure That I don't know. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. anyone new to programming should be kept as far from C++ as possible; actually showing the stuff should be considered a criminal offence -- Jacek Generowicz thank you for your suggestions best regards Michael Schuh ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux
hello, first sorry for my bad english, with noop i mean no operation. i can live with a better performance from postgresql under RELENG_5 :-D i find it great. As i sayed i have the installations always made in the same way, so that i mean. I mean i have alwas made the swap on the first gig of the disk, and the installation on the rest of the disk. and i have no multiple os'es on these disk. I know that other diskpart's have other performance.. :-D i mean i have really strictly regarded where my os'es are installed for these tests. what i not can ensure, is that the Gentoo uses the same parts for the programs, relying of the implemantation from ext2fs/ext3fs than BSD under UFS. But i think really that are enough reasons to say this test speaking a real language, and gave me not bad results. I be not a noob or an newby, so that i know that the io performance of a disk is related to the sectors that i use for regarding this performance. :-D i have made the test always on the same hardware, not compatible or equal, really the same, same disk, same processor, same board, same ram, same ethernet-card, all same i would not say look for a faster io-performance, that is not the only factor for database performance, but what is when your disk-access uses the double of time as before? then can you not say ohhh my problem is not related to disk-io ;-) i would not say that the io of disk ist the only important factor, but it is in fact an important factor. make a simple test: install a database-intensive application on an PII400 with DDRS-4,3GB SCSI-disk and make 500.000 inserts in an postgresql and an mysql database. so you can see that it uses many many time, change the disk to an ATA66 disk with good performance (better then the DDRS or DCAS) and then you see, that the disk-prformance is an important fact. i would you only make sensible for the view that you cannot only digging at the ipc-performance or the threading. I know that are also important factors, but what is if the base of all of these factors are lame? then you are lying on an mixed error behaviour that are not really representative. you search the error in first time on the wrong place. i think first view the diskperformance in versus of the Os'es and the versions, then digging deeper and search the oil in threading.:-)) i woul not start a principle discussion, that is not my target, my target is an really performant OS, that go's he's way forward and not backward's. I have seen that the disk-performance (ata-related) is much slower in RELENG_5 than in RELENG_4, and this is a step backwards to me, if its so much slower. about five or ten percent is not really bad an can comes from an other scheduling, as you can see in dragonfly, but halv as good as before ist for me not acceptable for production uses. best regards michael 2005/6/21, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Schuh wrote: Hello, yes random IO is more targetted to Databases. noop, i have the installation always made in the same way, and i have respected the different diskperformace in different disk-parts. this was the reason for #cd /; at the beginning of my tests. In the first test i have me shooting self in my foot and i bites me in my ass :-))) I was referring to the partitions and slices on the physical disk - each operating system is installed in a different one of these, and so is in a different physical part of the disk - hence you cannot reliably compare IO rates between them (This very issue has been discussed before I recall - try a Google search, as it is quite interesting). my suggestion going more in the direction...first solve all disk(ata) related performace issues, then test the mysql-performaces issues again to secure that you are not lying on an mixing of many problems :-) While noone would complain about faster sequential IO, it is almost certainly not the issue effecting database performance - for instance I find Postgresql consistently faster on RELENG_5 (5.3 onwards) than on RELENG_4 (using the pgbench program). cheers Mark ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux
Hello Oliver, ah, that are the hint that i missed. now i have another question, if i use the same Os in 2 versions (RELENG_4, RELENG_5) can i hope that the tests are made on the same part of disk? or in other words can an dd on the two OS' es so much different because they use an totally other part of disk? I think no, the strategie from dd under one OS should not be changed if the OS-Version has changed. the part with serial IO related to database-performance have i understand, but i quests me have the others understand my meanings? best regards Michael Schuh 2005/6/21, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As i sayed i have the installations always made in the same way, so that i mean. I mean i have alwas made the swap on the first gig of the disk, and the installation on the rest of the disk. and i have no multiple os'es on these disk. The problem is that the file (from dd of=foo) can still end up at completely different physical places on the disk. It depends on the filesystem (ext2, ext3, UFS, whatever) and on the allocation strategies of the filesystem code. UFS might start filling cylinder groups from the beginning of the disk, while ext3 might start at the end (does ext3 even _have_ cylinder groups?). This was just an example, but you get the idea. Of course, it also depends on how much data there already is on the filesystem, and how it is distributed over the disk. For accurate measurements and comparisons, you have to make sure to use _exactly_ the same physical location on the disk. From userland you don't have a way to control the physical allocation of files. Therefore, the only reliable way is to leave an unused partition on the disk, do _not_ put a filesystem on it, and use the raw device in the »dd« command. If you do this, you will always hit the same physical location on the disk. But then again -- as others have already mentioned, serial write speed is not the most important factor for database performance (although the WAL journal files of advanced transactional databases like PostgreSQL are written in a sequential way), so the usefulness of this benchmark is very debatable. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. I started using PostgreSQL around a month ago, and the feeling is similar to the switch from Linux to FreeBSD in '96 -- 'wow!'. -- Oddbjorn Steffensen ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux
Hello, i follows up these thread and i think you all digging on the false possible error location.. I have made many performance tests with RELENG_4 related to RELENG_5 and DragonFly and Gentoo. My results was that RELENG_5 is half as RELENG_4 fast by disk-access (ata-related). I have seen that RELENG_5 with GENERIC Kernel and only modified option HZ=2000. the spread begind with Gentoo (mentoided from me as the slowest, but errare humanum est) Gentoo : 100% time consumption RELENG_4: 67% time consumtion DrangonFly Rel1.2 69-72% time consumption (i think preemtion) RELENG_5 134% time consumtion these tests are made on physically the same Hardware (real, not equal system, same system, same disk, same RAM) with the command: # cd /; /usr/bin/time dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=1024k of=zerofile; rm zerofile the tests are made more then 3 times/period/system. I have made the tests to the beginning of stable-5, and by the release 5.4. after the Release from DragonFly. By the first time i have made a mailing on stable, and i become the answer thath these issues become fixed on RELENG_6. so i think you have to wait on the developers :-(( best regards Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux
Hello, yes random IO is more targetted to Databases. noop, i have the installation always made in the same way, and i have respected the different diskperformace in different disk-parts. this was the reason for #cd /; at the beginning of my tests. In the first test i have me shooting self in my foot and i bites me in my ass :-))) my suggestion going more in the direction...first solve all disk(ata) related performace issues, then test the mysql-performaces issues again to secure that you are not lying on an mixing of many problems :-) I think this was better then seek around corners that are not so relevant... or the result is not so dramatically greetings Michael 2005/6/20, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Schuh wrote: My results was that RELENG_5 is half as RELENG_4 fast by disk-access (ata-related). I have seen that RELENG_5 with GENERIC Kernel and only modified option HZ=2000. the spread begind with Gentoo (mentoided from me as the slowest, but errare humanum est) Gentoo : 100% time consumption RELENG_4: 67% time consumtion DrangonFly Rel1.2 69-72% time consumption (i think preemtion) RELENG_5 134% time consumtion these tests are made on physically the same Hardware (real, not equal system, same system, same disk, same RAM) with the command: # cd /; /usr/bin/time dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=1024k of=zerofile; You have shown that sequential IO is slower in RELENG_5 (I think others have observed this also - check out Google)...However, random IO is often more important for databases, and RELENG_5 can be faster than RELENG_4 (try out iozone, it makes testing this easy). Also note that if your operating systems are installed in different parts of the same disk, then this will effect your results too - as some parts are faster than others. With respect to Mysql performance, I would suspect threading or threading/kernel interaction as the culprit. (That reminds me, I don't recall seeing the original poster re-doing the tests with 6.0-CURRENT - that would be interesting). cheers Mark ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*.sh not working?
Hi, i have follows your trouble with rc-scripts. now im usind BSD for many years and i know! that *sh-ish rc-scripts should be supported. But this is not my interest. you have writte that the boxes with these behavior was updated from RELENG_4 to RELENG_5? right? if so double-check all these thinks you are doit to update reread the migration-guide and diff the rc-scripts and the binaries. my suggestion is somthing was going wrong with the update.. if the restly enviroment was leaved (profiles etc...) regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd-stable Digest, Vol 109, Issue 6
Hi, i think the setting of HZ has nothing to do with DEVICE_POLLING at once. So the Documentation say's DEVICE_POLLING is an Other way to get the Packets from the Ethernet. I have setted HZ=2000 on all my machines, equal if the Processor is an PI 200MHz or an PIII 866MHz In fact this setting gave me the best results on: PI200 w/o MMX PI200 w/ MMX AMDK6-300 AMDK6-450 PIII 866 Athlon XP2000+ All Machines i have used with xL devies like 3C905B, Cyclone and the other 3C905's. Only difference between the real Problem and my Enviroments is i use only RELENG_4 (i be a little pedantic and konservative with stability and performance). greetings Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xl(4) polling
Sorry for my wrong posting Hi, i think the setting of HZ has nothing to do with DEVICE_POLLING at once. So the Documentation say's DEVICE_POLLING is an Other way to get the Packets from the Ethernet. I have setted HZ=2000 on all my machines, equal if the Processor is an PI 200MHz or an PIII 866MHz In fact this setting gave me the best results on: PI200 w/o MMX PI200 w/ MMX AMDK6-300 AMDK6-450 PIII 866 Athlon XP2000+ All Machines i have used with xL devies like 3C905B, Cyclone and the other 3C905's. Only difference between the real Problem and my Enviroments is i use only RELENG_4 (i be a little pedantic and konservative with stability and performance). greetings Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disk-Performace issue?
Hello, i have the following Problemdescription. I work on an AMD 2000+ with 2*160GB-Disks The Diskperformance tested with bonnie or great filewrites/reads with dd from /dev/zero or /dev/urandom gaves me an Value from 40-55 MBytes/s. Now i have 2 Directories with ~500.000-600.000 files with an size of ~5kByte. by copying the files from one disk to another or an direktory on the same disk (equal behavior), i can see this behavior: on an PIII 866 the first ~100.000 - 150.000 files on an AMDK6II450 the first ~100.000 - 120.000 files on the AMD2000+ the first ~200.000 - 220.000 files are copied with an relative good performance. After this count of files are copied, the system-load get higher, cppustate ist 0,0% idle and the system uses ~80-90%cpu-load, rest goin to intr and user As base i use RELENG_4. Can anyone explain me from where this behavior can come? Come thie eventually from the filesytem, or from my disks, so that these are to hot? (I think not) I have tried out following commands to copy: tar -cf - . | ( cd destdir; tar -xf .) #the fastest and my lovely :-) find ./ -type f |cpio -pm destdir # half-performace as tar rsync -av sourcedir/ destdir/ # smarter then tar but bad performace mv or any other are not testet while i surely run in to the too many Arguments Problem thank you for your suggestions regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk-Performace issue?
Sorry not my day, i have forgotten to tell you that not only the system load get higher, also the transferrate run under 500kBytes/s from one to another moment. The first files get copied with 3-9 MBytes/s. Thank you. Michael 2005/5/10, Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, i have the following Problemdescription. I work on an AMD 2000+ with 2*160GB-Disks The Diskperformance tested with bonnie or great filewrites/reads with dd from /dev/zero or /dev/urandom gaves me an Value from 40-55 MBytes/s. Now i have 2 Directories with ~500.000-600.000 files with an size of ~5kByte. by copying the files from one disk to another or an direktory on the same disk (equal behavior), i can see this behavior: on an PIII 866 the first ~100.000 - 150.000 files on an AMDK6II450 the first ~100.000 - 120.000 files on the AMD2000+ the first ~200.000 - 220.000 files are copied with an relative good performance. After this count of files are copied, the system-load get higher, cppustate ist 0,0% idle and the system uses ~80-90%cpu-load, rest goin to intr and user As base i use RELENG_4. Can anyone explain me from where this behavior can come? Come thie eventually from the filesytem, or from my disks, so that these are to hot? (I think not) I have tried out following commands to copy: tar -cf - . | ( cd destdir; tar -xf .) #the fastest and my lovely :-) find ./ -type f |cpio -pm destdir # half-performace as tar rsync -av sourcedir/ destdir/ # smarter then tar but bad performace mv or any other are not testet while i surely run in to the too many Arguments Problem thank you for your suggestions regards michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk-Performace issue?
Hallo Charles, thank you for this hint, but this is not the source i have this option as default in my kernels. Iknow that putting tons of files in one directory is not really good for the performance. I think also that the way get better by using subdirs. But my problem ist that the performance fall from one moment to another from 100% to ~10% this was not linear, ist was not a ramp, it was the grand canion or the Eiger Nordwand. :-)) not that the performance at all is bad. Thank you for your Hint Michael 2005/5/10, Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 10, 2005, at 6:46 AM, Michael Schuh wrote: Now i have 2 Directories with ~500.000-600.000 files with an size of ~5kByte. by copying the files from one disk to another or an direktory on the same disk (equal behavior), i can see this behavior: [ ... ] Can anyone explain me from where this behavior can come? Come thie eventually from the filesytem, or from my disks, so that these are to hot? (I think not) Directories are kept as lists. Adding files to the end of a list takes a longer time, as the list gets bigger. There is a kernel option called DIRHASH (UFS_DIRHASH?) which can be enabled which will help this kind of situation out significantly, but even with it, you aren't going to get great performance when you put a half-million files into a single directory. Try breaking this content up into one or two levels of subdirectories. See the way the Squid cache works... -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED Disk-Performace issue?
Hello, thanks to all who gave me any suggestion on my request. The Tip from Charles was only the beginning. The last step was to setting vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem via sysctl to an higher value, in my case 20MB. The copying from all 523000 files has used over 7MB dirhash_mem. Now after setting the ufs.dirhash_maxmem i have the performance from 4-5 MByte/s. i thanks all people that gave me the Power to serve :-))) regards Michael 2005/5/10, Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 10, 2005, at 6:46 AM, Michael Schuh wrote: Now i have 2 Directories with ~500.000-600.000 files with an size of ~5kByte. by copying the files from one disk to another or an direktory on the same disk (equal behavior), i can see this behavior: [ ... ] Can anyone explain me from where this behavior can come? Come thie eventually from the filesytem, or from my disks, so that these are to hot? (I think not) Directories are kept as lists. Adding files to the end of a list takes a longer time, as the list gets bigger. There is a kernel option called DIRHASH (UFS_DIRHASH?) which can be enabled which will help this kind of situation out significantly, but even with it, you aren't going to get great performance when you put a half-million files into a single directory. Try breaking this content up into one or two levels of subdirectories. See the way the Squid cache works... -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 6.8.1
Hi, i have relatively early updated my XFree to Xorg. In Version 6.7.x it has an problematic driver for Intel's Ich2 I815 Graphik-Card. The Developers say's this should be fixed in 6.8.1, may i have seen that it's not really. The failures are a little bit less then fromer with 6.7.x but it's the same feeling. Just open on this box an Firefox or Mozilla window, with an big Page ( like handbook in single page) and scroll with your mouse-wheel up and down, then it was a good chance that the XServer crashes. The really reason couldnt found by me, may it crashes 2 or 3 times a day. may i think this is only related to i815. on other boxes i couldnt repeat this behavior. The Upgrade from Xfree to xorg was really good described in /usr/ports/UPGRADING and was without problems, but the handling of different keyboard-type is a little bit different (eg. for german users), but no really a problem. regards ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing Man-Pages in RELENG_4
Hi, i miss the manpages for ipf.conf ipnat.conf under RELENG_4 last updated 2005-01-05 via cvsup. thanks regards Michael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is it possible to mount a vinum-fs on 2 hosts?
Hello, i have a little problem. I hav Host A andHost B both are connected to an SAN through an QLA2200 Fibre-Channel (man isp). On the SAN are 14 Disks da0-da13 these Disks are configured w/ vinum to an RAID 10 Filesystem. Now i have the Problem i would make Host A to an PDC and HOST B to an BDC. To be redundant in an fail of the PDC (Host A) i would have access to the SAN from BDC (Host B). Now i Know the Problem of an already mounted Filesystem. I would mount the Filesystem on both Hosts, may i cannot update the Filesystemdescriptors from Host A on Host B. Give it an option or knob for these problematic situation, or must i junk through the Shell-Scripting-Hell with ping/pong...;-) Can anyone help me? Tahnks for your interrest an Help. Greetings Michael ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vinum crashes the Box by using more then ten disks on RELENG_4
Hi, Ihas following System dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #1: Tue Nov 30 14:26:29 CET 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYGENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Intel Pentium III (993.33-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CM OV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real memory = 1342169088 (1310712K bytes) config en apm0 config q avail memory = 1299566592 (1269108K bytes) Changing APIC ID for IO APIC #0 from 0 to 2 on chip Changing APIC ID for IO APIC #1 from 0 to 3 on chip Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee0 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee0 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec0 io1 (APIC): apic id: 3, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 Preloaded elf kernel kernel at 0xc0564000. Preloaded userconfig_script /boot/kernel.conf at 0xc056409c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 11 entries at 0xc00fc320 npx0: math processor on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: ServerWorks NB6635 3.0LE host to PCI bridge on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 15 - irq 2 IOAPIC #1 intpin 1 - irq 10 IOAPIC #1 intpin 0 - irq 11 pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 pcib1: PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=0962) at device 2.0 on pci0 IOAPIC #1 intpin 14 - irq 13 pci1: PCI bus on pcib1 ahc0: Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xfcfff000-0xf cff irq 13 at device 6.0 on pci1 ahc0: Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xfcfff000-0xf cff irq 13 at device 6.0 on pci1 aic7880: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs aac0: Dell PERC 2/Si mem 0xf400-0xf7ff irq 2 at device 2.1 on pci0 aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 54MB cache memory, no battery support aac0: Kernel 2.8-0, Build 6089, S/N c10d0 aac0: Supported Options=2558DATA64,HOSTTIME,WINDOW4GB,SOFTERR,SGMAP64 xl0: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xec80-0xecff mem 0xfe103000-0xfe10 307f irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:d0:09:69 miibus0: MII bus on xl0 xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Intel 82559 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0xec40-0xec7f mem 0xfe00-0xfe0 f,0xfe102000-0xfe102fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:b0:d0:ab:58:dd inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus1 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: ATI model 4759 graphics accelerator at 14.0 isab0: ServerWorks IB6566 PCI to ISA bridge at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe10-0xfe100fff irq 5 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib2: ServerWorks NB6635 3.0LE host to PCI bridge on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 12 - irq 14 IOAPIC #1 intpin 8 - irq 16 IOAPIC #1 intpin 4 - irq 17 pci2: PCI bus on pcib2 isp0: Qlogic ISP 2200 PCI FC-AL Adapter port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xef00-0xef 000fff irq 14 at device 6.0 on pci2 xl1: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xd880-0xd8ff mem 0xef001400-0xef00 147f irq 16 at device 10.0 on pci2 xl1: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:ed:af:2f miibus2: MII bus on xl1 xlphy1: 3Com internal media interface on miibus2 miibus2: MII bus on xl1 xlphy1: 3Com internal media interface on miibus2 xlphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl2: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xd800-0xd87f mem 0xef001000-0xef00 107f irq 17 at device 14.0 on pci2 xl2: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:53:9e:63 miibus3: MII bus on xl2 xlphy2: 3Com internal media interface on miibus3 xlphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto orm0: Option ROMs at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff,0xc9000-0xccfff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port
vinum crashes by using more then 11 disks on RELENG_4
Hi, Ihas following System dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #1: Tue Nov 30 14:26:29 CET 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYGENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Intel Pentium III (993.33-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CM OV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real memory = 1342169088 (1310712K bytes) config en apm0 config q avail memory = 1299566592 (1269108K bytes) Changing APIC ID for IO APIC #0 from 0 to 2 on chip Changing APIC ID for IO APIC #1 from 0 to 3 on chip Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee0 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee0 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec0 io1 (APIC): apic id: 3, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 Preloaded elf kernel kernel at 0xc0564000. Preloaded userconfig_script /boot/kernel.conf at 0xc056409c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 11 entries at 0xc00fc320 npx0: math processor on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: ServerWorks NB6635 3.0LE host to PCI bridge on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 15 - irq 2 IOAPIC #1 intpin 1 - irq 10 IOAPIC #1 intpin 0 - irq 11 pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 pcib1: PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=0962) at device 2.0 on pci0 IOAPIC #1 intpin 14 - irq 13 pci1: PCI bus on pcib1 ahc0: Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xfcfff000-0xf cff irq 13 at device 6.0 on pci1 aic7880: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs aac0: Dell PERC 2/Si mem 0xf400-0xf7ff irq 2 at device 2.1 on pci0 aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 54MB cache memory, no battery support aac0: Kernel 2.8-0, Build 6089, S/N c10d0 aac0: Supported Options=2558DATA64,HOSTTIME,WINDOW4GB,SOFTERR,SGMAP64 xl0: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xec80-0xecff mem 0xfe103000-0xfe10 307f irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:d0:09:69 miibus0: MII bus on xl0 xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Intel 82559 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0xec40-0xec7f mem 0xfe00-0xfe0 f,0xfe102000-0xfe102fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:b0:d0:ab:58:dd inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus1 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: ATI model 4759 graphics accelerator at 14.0 isab0: ServerWorks IB6566 PCI to ISA bridge at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe10-0xfe100fff irq 5 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib2: ServerWorks NB6635 3.0LE host to PCI bridge on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 12 - irq 14 IOAPIC #1 intpin 8 - irq 16 IOAPIC #1 intpin 4 - irq 17 pci2: PCI bus on pcib2 isp0: Qlogic ISP 2200 PCI FC-AL Adapter port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xef00-0xef 000fff irq 14 at device 6.0 on pci2 xl1: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xd880-0xd8ff mem 0xef001400-0xef00 147f irq 16 at device 10.0 on pci2 xl1: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:ed:af:2f miibus2: MII bus on xl1 xlphy1: 3Com internal media interface on miibus2 xlphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl2: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xd800-0xd87f mem 0xef001000-0xef00 107f irq 17 at device 14.0 on pci2 xl2: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:53:9e:63 miibus3: MII bus on xl2 xlphy2: 3Com internal media interface on miibus3 xlphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto orm0: Option ROMs at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff,0xc9000-0xccfff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: PLIP network
Re: serious networking (em) performance (ggate and NFS)/Performance issues
My Problem seems to be related to the VIA-Chipset drivers in Kernel. My problem with the performance is not related to a specific networkdriver. I have made multiple tests with multible networkcards. I have not made any test with RELENG_5 and other mainboard's w/o via chipsets. I have made the tests as described with RELENG_4 and RELENG_5 and only RELENG_5 has the problem with the VIA chipset. The chipset is known as VIA MVP3. best regards michael On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:29:16 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:29:17PM +0100, Michael Schuh wrote: From: Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:13:00 +0100 Subject: Re: serious networking (em) performance (ggate and NFS)/Performance issues To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, i have same serious problems. I don't repeate the posting, and describe my tests that i have made with RELENG_5 (Original Release) and RELENG_4 It's already been mentioned in this thread that 5.3-R contained a performance bug in the em driver, and you should update to 5.3-STABLE. From the above it sounds like you've only tried 5.3-RELEASE. Kris ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
serious networking (em) performance (ggate and NFS)/Performance issues
From: Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:13:00 +0100 Subject: Re: serious networking (em) performance (ggate and NFS)/Performance issues To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, i have same serious problems. I don't repeate the posting, and describe my tests that i have made with RELENG_5 (Original Release) and RELENG_4 My Hardware scenario: Server PIII 866MHz 512MB RAM OS-Disk SCSI- DNES IBM 3*UDMA66-Drives as Concat with ~140G Rsync with SO_KEEPALIVE 3COMXL (3C905-Combo) Client AMD K6-2 450MHz 384 MB RAM UDMA33-Disks 3COMXL (xl,all models) DEC21143 (Tulip, dc) RTL8139(rl) The only differences between the Tests are the OS_versions. In Both OS-Versions all the Binaries and the Kernel are compiled on the Client. For RELENG_4 CPUTYPE=i586, RELENG_5 CPUTYPE is overwritten in /etc/make.conf as k6-2. Both kernels are GENERIC except the following Options: cpu i586 #only options HZ=2000 options DEVICE_POLLING The Serverside was constant RELENG_4 with same options. On the Server i has pure DISK I/o-Rates from ~20 MB for wirte and ~30MB for read, so that these not could be the bottleneck. The only bottleneck in the system are the capability of max working interrupts and physically the Network. The Boxes are connectet with daetwyler cat. 5e through an 100MBit exclusive switch that would only be used from these two boxes. In all the Tests i have made only a Push from Client to server, while i have seen that the Server is not the Problem. I have alwas used the same Data to transfer (gziped dump -0 from my systems ca 5.3G) All the tests are made with only one of the described networkadapters on the same Time, the problems seems not to be on the driver side.Maybe? The interruptrates and transfers disk I/Os: RELENG_4 Client maxinterrupt ~11000/s Client maxpackages ~6000/s Client Disk i/o read~7-8MB/s Transferrates ~7-8MB/s similar to Disktraffic RELENG_5 Cleint maxinterrupt ~7000/s Client maxpackages ~2500-3000/s Client Disk i/o read ~3-4MB/s Transferrates ~3-4MB similar to Disktraffic Is now the Diskdriver the Problem or the networklayer? Who has also these expieriences? This made me a little bit ugly, and i think i should be conservative and stay on RELENG_4. Or is this the price for the new technologie features? In the first moment i have thinking i have a linux box and not FreeBSD. Can the Developers made us happy with the good old high performance from RELENG_4 on RELENG_5?? we hope the best. best regards sicerelly michael ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why was /etc/defaults/make.conf not updated
Hi, sorry, i have forgotten to say, the informations over the change of the Variables have i found in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Sorry On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:37:14 +0100, Michael Schuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ich have found an entry in /usr/local/ports/UPDATING, that the Variable XFREE_VERSION in /etc/make.conf was outdated and changed. So we shall use X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg. I have searched an representing entry in /usr/src/etc/defaults/make.conf, and it is not shown. Now i have also shown that the XFree4.4-ports are marked as IGNORE. And i questioning me self why is the /etc/defaults/make.conf not changed. I have already read that the change should coming. Is this the right sign to change to Xorg's XFree? Has anyone an information when this come true, or when the change was maked in /usr/src/etc/defaults/make.conf? The reason to change to Xorg is clearly for me, may not why the defaults/make.conf isn't already changed. Thanks to all and best regards Michael ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
why was /etc/defaults/make.conf not updated
Hi, ich have found an entry in /usr/local/ports/UPDATING, that the Variable XFREE_VERSION in /etc/make.conf was outdated and changed. So we shall use X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg. I have searched an representing entry in /usr/src/etc/defaults/make.conf, and it is not shown. Now i have also shown that the XFree4.4-ports are marked as IGNORE. And i questioning me self why is the /etc/defaults/make.conf not changed. I have already read that the change should coming. Is this the right sign to change to Xorg's XFree? Has anyone an information when this come true, or when the change was maked in /usr/src/etc/defaults/make.conf? The reason to change to Xorg is clearly for me, may not why the defaults/make.conf isn't already changed. Thanks to all and best regards Michael ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
