Re: Shutdown -p now not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-06 Thread mse_software

 
 From: Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/08/06 Sat AM 12:39:31 EDT
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 Subject: Re: Shutdown -p now not working in 5.4 STABLE
 
 Hi Mike!
 If you still manage this puzzle,
 is there something in your bios that
 affects 5.4 and not 5.1? Must be
 power menue with apm and other
 stuff. Acpi is on and should take
 the whole process for you.
 Best regards
 
 Zoran
 
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You were right!

I was using a auto-power up feature to power the machine on automatically at a 
certain time every day.  Everyting works after disabling it in the CMOS setup.

I was planning to use the `shutdown -p now' command to compliment the auto 
power on feature in the BIOS to alleviate the need for the client to turn it 
off and on.  This is not only because there isn't much computer literacy, but 
also because I didn't want the disks spinning during the time no one is in the 
office.

I'm curious, between 5.1 and 5.4, was the change made to more accurately 
represent the hardware the system was running on (fixing a problem), or was it 
simply due to other circumstances that resulted in the functionality being 
broken?

I would definitely be interested in creating a patch to regain the 
functionality if the development team didn't do it for a reason.  I don't want 
to break what someone else has taken the time to fix.

Thanks,
Mike Eubanks
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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-05 Thread Garance A Drosihn

At 8:43 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:

On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 19:14 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 

 Hmm.  The more I think about this, the more I think I tripped
 across something similar once.  I think it was something like
 I turned on 'APM' somewhere, or I added it to my kernel, or

  something.  For power-down, you need to be using ACPI, not APM.

 But from your dmesg output, it looks like you are using ACPI,

  so I am probably not helping much with that guess either.

Ok, I built APM into the kernel and gave it a few tries, fiddling
with different things.


Sorry, my comments were not as clear as they should have been.
What I meant is that my problem was *caused* by adding APM into
the mix, when it should not have been there.  That's what I
meant by:   For power-down, you need to be using ACPI, not APM.

But all of this is just vague memory anyway.  I haven't had any
problems with my machines powering down for quite awhile now.
(through many different system builds...)

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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-05 Thread Mike Eubanks
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 12:29 +0200, Owe Jørgensen wrote:
 Mike Eubanks wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 14:21 -0700, J. Nyhuis wrote:
   
 
 Wouldn't you want a -h for halt to prevent it from powering back 
 up?
 
 Thanks,
 
 John H. Nyhuis
 Sr. Computer Specialist
 Dept. of Pediatrics
 HS RR349B, Box 356320
 University of Washington
 Desk: (206)-685-3884
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 
 
 
 At 1:32 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:
   
 
 I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.
 The system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now'
 or `acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.
 
 
 This won't help much, but I have a system running 5.4-STABLE as of
 Thu Jul 28, and `shutdown -p now' works on that.  Dual-athlon.
 
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 Yeah, the `-h' option does halt the system.  The system does not power
 down though as it should with `-p' (halt and power down).
 
 
   
 
 I guess it would be more healthy for the system and your fitness if you 
 reached down and turned it off manually after a shutdown -h

:-)

Right you are.  Once the machine is being used, though, I will need one
arm that is at least 240 miles in length and rippling back muscles to
carry the weight of my arm.  :-)

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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-05 Thread Mike Eubanks
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 16:03 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 At 8:43 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 19:14 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
   
   Hmm.  The more I think about this, the more I think I tripped
   across something similar once.  I think it was something like
   I turned on 'APM' somewhere, or I added it to my kernel, or
something.  For power-down, you need to be using ACPI, not APM.
   But from your dmesg output, it looks like you are using ACPI,
so I am probably not helping much with that guess either.
 
 Ok, I built APM into the kernel and gave it a few tries, fiddling
 with different things.
 
 Sorry, my comments were not as clear as they should have been.
 What I meant is that my problem was *caused* by adding APM into
 the mix, when it should not have been there.  That's what I
 meant by:   For power-down, you need to be using ACPI, not APM.
 
 But all of this is just vague memory anyway.  I haven't had any
 problems with my machines powering down for quite awhile now.
 (through many different system builds...)
 

Garance,

That's ok.  I figured it wouldn't hurt to give it a try anyway.  I am
currently rebuilding it.  I've never had a problem quite like this one.
Evidence for problem seems to be inconsistent in the fact that it works
fully on one version, and sometimes on the other.  In the end, I fear my
install is the only thing questionable at this point when considering
the other dual-Athlon 5.4 system operates without a problem.

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Re: Shutdown -p now not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-05 Thread Zoran Kolic
Hi Mike!
If you still manage this puzzle,
is there something in your bios that
affects 5.4 and not 5.1? Must be
power menue with apm and other
stuff. Acpi is on and should take
the whole process for you.
Best regards

Zoran

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``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread Mike Eubanks
I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.  The
system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now' or
`acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.  I have tried the
GENERIC kernel as well as several custom kernels.

I'm stuck at this point.  Are there any sysctl flags that may be of
importance or something else I may be missing.  I haven't changed
anything with respect loader.conf or device hints yet.

The hardware is roughly two years old - 09/2003
Motherboard: GA-7N400-L
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS

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``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread Mike Eubanks
I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.  The
system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now' or
`acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.  I have tried the
GENERIC kernel as well as several custom kernels.

I'm stuck at this point.  Are there any sysctl flags that may be of
importance or something else I may be missing.  I haven't changed
anything with respect loader.conf or device hints yet.

The hardware is roughly two years old - 09/2003
Motherboard: GA-7N400-L
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS

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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread Garance A Drosihn

At 1:32 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:

I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.
The system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now'
or `acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.


This won't help much, but I have a system running 5.4-STABLE as of
Thu Jul 28, and `shutdown -p now' works on that.  Dual-athlon.

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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread J. Nyhuis
	Wouldn't you want a -h for halt to prevent it from powering back 
up?


Thanks,

John H. Nyhuis
Sr. Computer Specialist
Dept. of Pediatrics
HS RR349B, Box 356320
University of Washington
Desk: (206)-685-3884
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Garance A Drosihn wrote:


At 1:32 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:

I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.
The system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now'
or `acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.


This won't help much, but I have a system running 5.4-STABLE as of
Thu Jul 28, and `shutdown -p now' works on that.  Dual-athlon.

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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread Mike Eubanks
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:09 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 At 1:32 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:
 I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.
 The system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now'
 or `acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.
 
 This won't help much, but I have a system running 5.4-STABLE as of
 Thu Jul 28, and `shutdown -p now' works on that.  Dual-athlon.
 

Ok.  I'm also running a dual-athlon with 5.4-STABLE...no problems.  I
really don't know why this machine is behaving the way it is, it has
always worked fine under 5.1-RELEASE.  I'm hoping it is something fairly
simple though.  Other than the lack of a NVIDIA memory controller (pci0
memory, RAM at device 0.x), I'd say everything looks fine.  Below is a
snip of the dmesg output for the current custom kernel compiled with
updated source:

-

Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug  4 18:54:47 PDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kadavu
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ (2162.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x681  Stepping = 1

Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
  AMD Features=0xc040AMIE,DSP,3DNow!
real memory  = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1045323776 (996 MB)
acpi0: Nvidia AWRDACPI on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf0-0xcf3,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: NVIDIA nForce2 AGP Controller mem 0xd800-0xdbff at
device 0.0 on pci0
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.2 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.3 (no driver attached)

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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread Mike Eubanks
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 14:21 -0700, J. Nyhuis wrote:
   Wouldn't you want a -h for halt to prevent it from powering back 
 up?
 
   Thanks,
 
 John H. Nyhuis
 Sr. Computer Specialist
 Dept. of Pediatrics
 HS RR349B, Box 356320
 University of Washington
 Desk: (206)-685-3884
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 
  At 1:32 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:
  I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.
  The system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now'
  or `acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.
 
  This won't help much, but I have a system running 5.4-STABLE as of
  Thu Jul 28, and `shutdown -p now' works on that.  Dual-athlon.
 
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Yeah, the `-h' option does halt the system.  The system does not power
down though as it should with `-p' (halt and power down).


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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread ajm
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 02:25:17PM -0700, Mike Eubanks wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:09 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
  At 1:32 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:
  I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.
  The system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now'
  or `acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.
  
  This won't help much, but I have a system running 5.4-STABLE as of
  Thu Jul 28, and `shutdown -p now' works on that.  Dual-athlon.
  
 
 Ok.  I'm also running a dual-athlon with 5.4-STABLE...no problems.  I
 really don't know why this machine is behaving the way it is, it has
 always worked fine under 5.1-RELEASE.  I'm hoping it is something fairly
 simple though.  Other than the lack of a NVIDIA memory controller (pci0
 memory, RAM at device 0.x), I'd say everything looks fine.  Below is a
 snip of the dmesg output for the current custom kernel compiled with
 updated source:
 
 -
 
 Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 The Regents of the University of California. All rights
 reserved.
 FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Aug  4 18:54:47 PDT 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kadavu
 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ (2162.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x681  Stepping = 1
 
 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
   AMD Features=0xc040AMIE,DSP,3DNow!
 real memory  = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
 avail memory = 1045323776 (996 MB)
 acpi0: Nvidia AWRDACPI on motherboard
 acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf0-0xcf3,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
 agp0: NVIDIA nForce2 AGP Controller mem 0xd800-0xdbff at
 device 0.0 on pci0
 pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
 pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.2 (no driver attached)
 pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.3 (no driver attached)
 
 -
 
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This works for me...as root place
apm_enable=YES   in the /etc/rc.conf   file

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Re: ``shutdown -p now'' not working in 5.4 STABLE

2005-08-04 Thread Mike Eubanks
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 19:14 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 At 2:25 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 17:09 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
   At 1:32 PM -0700 8/4/05, Mike Eubanks wrote:
   I have finished migrating my system from 5.1-RELEASE to 5.4-STABLE.
   The system no longer powers down using either the `shutdown -p now'
   or `acpiconf -s 5' commands.  Instead it always restarts.
 
   This won't help much, but I have a system running 5.4-STABLE as of
   Thu Jul 28, and `shutdown -p now' works on that.  Dual-athlon.
 
 
 Ok.  I'm also running a dual-athlon with 5.4-STABLE...no problems.
 I really don't know why this machine is behaving the way it is,
 it has always worked fine under 5.1-RELEASE.
 
 Hmm.  The more I think about this, the more I think I tripped
 across something similar once.  I think it was something like
 I turned on 'APM' somewhere, or I added it to my kernel, or
 something.  For power-down, you need to be using ACPI, not APM.
 But from your dmesg output, it looks like you are using ACPI,
 so I am probably not helping much with that guess either.
 
 Here's the start of my dmesg output.  Seems like our machines
 are fairly similar:
 
 # - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 28 19:58:50 EDT 2005
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Dual-Athlon2k-5x
 ACPI APIC Table: PTLTD  APIC  
 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2000+ (1666.74-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x662  Stepping = 2
  
 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
AMD Features=0xc048MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!
 real memory  = 1073217536 (1023 MB)
 avail memory = 1040592896 (992 MB)
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
   cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  1
   cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  0
 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI
 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 npx0: math processor on motherboard
 npx0: INT 16 interface
 acpi0: PTLTD   RSDT on motherboard
 acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 acpi0: Sleep Button (fixed)
 Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0
 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 
 0x8080-0x80ff,0x8000-0x807f,0xcf8-0xcff iomem 0xd8000-0xdbfff on acpi0
 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
 agp0: AMD 762 host to AGP bridge port 0x1010-0x1013 mem 
 0xf540-0xf5400fff,0xf800-0xfbff at device 0.0 on pci0
 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
 pci1: display, VGA at device 5.0 (no driver attached)
 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
 isa0: ISA bus on isab0
 atapci0: AMD 768 UDMA100 controller port 
 0xf000-0xf00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 7.1 on 
 pci0
 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
 

Ok, I built APM into the kernel and gave it a few tries, fiddling with
different things.  Unfortunately no luck.  The dmesg snip above looks
identical to my dual processor system.  The main difference between them
and the machine that is acting up is the line right after npx0:
  dual-processor Athlon MP (Tyan board)
+ acpi0: PTLTD   RSDT on motherboard
  single processor Athlon XP (Gigabyte board - problem child)
+ acpi0: Nvidia AWRDACPI on motherboard
I imagine this is due to the different motherboards and their BIOS.

After digging around through the kernel and acpi source for awhile, I
decided to power the system down completely and unplug it.  The
`shutdown -p now' command worked one time.  I repeated this process
several more times, each with a single `shutdown -p now' command
working.  After that, I put my 5.1-RELEASE HDD back in (pulling the
5.4-STABLE disk out).  The 5.1 system still works perfect with power
down working every time.  If all else fails, I will simply stay with the
older system.  I am going to try a clean 5.4 install again, though, just
to make sure things didn't go haywire when I was building the system
last time.

Once I have the base 5.4-STABLE system installed again, I should be able
to verify whether there is a hardware compatibility issue stemming from
a code difference between the two branches (5.1 and 5.4), or if my work
was simply sleep deprived.

If it happens to be a hardware issue, I'll send a follow up.

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