Re: cua*x naming? [Was: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available]
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:24:47PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 18:18 +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > > Am Sonntag, 17. Juli 2005 21:12 CEST schrieb Robert Watson: > > > > (2) /dev/cuaa* has been renamed to /dev/cuad* > > > > > > I saw that cuaa got cuad and ucom0 got cuaU0. Now what is the meaning of > > > cua? tty AFAIK is TeleTYpe... > > > > Call(-out) Unit Access, IIRC. > > Yes. I remember that some systems (Solaris) used the term > ACU for "automatic call unit", which just means a modem. Actually, Way Back When, ACUs and MODEMs were separate boxen. :-} Peace, david (who did work at an installation that had them, ca. 1976) -- David H. Wolfskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any given sequence of letters is a misspelling of a great many English words. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for public key. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: cua*x naming? [Was: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available]
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 18:18 +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 17. Juli 2005 21:12 CEST schrieb Robert Watson: > > > (2) /dev/cuaa* has been renamed to /dev/cuad* > > > > I saw that cuaa got cuad and ucom0 got cuaU0. Now what is the meaning of > > cua? tty AFAIK is TeleTYpe... > > Call(-out) Unit Access, IIRC. Yes. I remember that some systems (Solaris) used the term ACU for "automatic call unit", which just means a modem. I've also seen interpretations saying that "cua" is related to UART (universal asynchronous receiver/transmitter), which is the basic function description of a serial controller. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "... there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are _obviously_ no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no _obvious_ deficiencies."-- C.A.R. Hoare, ACM Turing Award Lecture, 1980 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: cua*x naming? [Was: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available]
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 18:18 +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Am Sonntag, 17. Juli 2005 21:12 CEST schrieb Robert Watson: > > > (2) /dev/cuaa* has been renamed to /dev/cuad* > > I saw that cuaa got cuad and ucom0 got cuaU0. Now what is the meaning of > cua? tty AFAIK is TeleTYpe... Call(-out) Unit Access, IIRC. -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] [EMAIL PROTECTED] system administrator [WAY too many hats][EMAIL PROTECTED] electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon univ. KF8NH ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
cua*x naming? [Was: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available]
Am Sonntag, 17. Juli 2005 21:12 CEST schrieb Robert Watson: > (2) /dev/cuaa* has been renamed to /dev/cuad* I saw that cuaa got cuad and ucom0 got cuaU0. Now what is the meaning of cua? tty AFAIK is TeleTYpe... Thanks, -Harry pgp8dSThJXdRN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Scott Long wrote: Announcement The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the work that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining direct device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. This release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support for the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. Can anyone direct me to more information about the new WPA and Host-AP 802.11 features? / Carl ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Yann Golanski wrote: Quoth Scott Long on Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:18:50 -0600 Part of the purpose of moving quickly on to RELENG_6 is so that the migration work for users from 5.x to 6.x is very small. 6.x is really just an evolutionary step from 5.x, not the life-altering revolutionary step that 4.x->5.x was. It should be quite easy to deploy and maintain 5.x and 6.x machines side-by-side and migrate them as the need arises. We don't want people to be stranded on RELENG_5 like they were with RELENG_4. 6.x offers everything of 5.x, but with better performance and (hopefully) better stability. If you're thinking about evaluating 5.x, give 6.0 a try also. Does that mean that a cvsup with "*default tag=RELENG_6" and a rebuilt of the world will work smoothly? Would it work at all? Is it even recommended? I suspect that re-compiling every port is a good idea after making the world in any case. I've run into two stumbles that are easily worked around once known: (1) I had to rm -Rf /usr/obj/... because incremental buildworld seemed unhappy as a result of directory and content changes. I don't know what that is. (2) /dev/cuaa* has been renamed to /dev/cuad* Otherwise, be aware that as with 5.x running 4.x binaries, 6.x needs compat stuff to run 5.x binaries. My intuition is that this is an area of the 6.x release that will need further honing, as I'm not sure there's a COMPAT5X library set in 6.x yet. If you're doing an incremental buildworld, this won't be a problem, but if you install a new 6.x machine, it might be. Likewise, BETA1 shipped without the kernel compat option, which won't affect most binaries, but this will be fixed in BETA2. So I think the usual advice holds true in general: do it on a test machine first, and backup, before your production machine with 10,000 users and your only copy of all your data. :-) 6.x seems to be flawlessly picking up work from my 5.x machines now, and generally working better. And hopefully in another week I'll get the netstat -mb fixes for SMP merged to RELENG_6 so that the mbuf allocation counters don't leak under high load on SMP resulting in erroneous statistics, a bug that has irritated me substantially in the 5.x branch. Robert N M Watson ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Wilko Bulte wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 06:33:24PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote.. At 1:06 PM +0200 7/16/05, Øystein Holmen wrote: I was looking for a place to download 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso to test om my PowerMac G4. But I cannot find it on any of the ftp-sites og mirrors. Where can I download it? It may have been taken down. There were a few problems with the iso's of 6.0-beta1 for PowerPC. Well, ftp-master.freebsd.org carries it, so the mirrors should do as well: ftp-master: find . -name 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso ./releases/ppc/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso ftp-master didn't carry it until yesterday morning, due to a permission problem. There is no ISO-IMAGES-powerpc in the top of the tree, like there is for the other archs. No idea why that is the case to be honest. Scott might know. Simple oversight. I'll into it, thanks. Scott ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 06:33:24PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote.. > At 1:06 PM +0200 7/16/05, Øystein Holmen wrote: > >I was looking for a place to download 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso > >to test om my PowerMac G4. But I cannot find it on any of > >the ftp-sites og mirrors. Where can I download it? > > It may have been taken down. There were a few problems with the > iso's of 6.0-beta1 for PowerPC. Well, ftp-master.freebsd.org carries it, so the mirrors should do as well: ftp-master: find . -name 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso ./releases/ppc/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso There is no ISO-IMAGES-powerpc in the top of the tree, like there is for the other archs. No idea why that is the case to be honest. Scott might know. Wilko -- Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
At 1:06 PM +0200 7/16/05, Øystein Holmen wrote: I was looking for a place to download 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso to test om my PowerMac G4. But I cannot find it on any of the ftp-sites og mirrors. Where can I download it? It may have been taken down. There were a few problems with the iso's of 6.0-beta1 for PowerPC. If you're interested in PowerPC, you might want to join the freebsd-ppc mailing list, and send questions there. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Am Samstag, 16. Juli 2005 13:06 schrieb Øystein Holmen: > I was looking for a place to download > 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso to test om my PowerMac G4. But I > cannot find it on any of the ftp- sites og mirrors. Where can I > download it? Forgot that: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2005-July/001270.html mentions that one should better skip BETA1 for PPC and wait for the next BETA (RC?) Andreas -- Andreas Braml [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0xEB7B9BFB http://braml.org/andreas_braml.asc Keyserver: random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de pgpwhU2KqJjtT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Am Samstag, 16. Juli 2005 13:06 schrieb Øystein Holmen: > I was looking for a place to download > 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso to test om my PowerMac G4. But I > cannot find it on any of the ftp- sites og mirrors. Where can I > download it? http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/ At least that's where I downloaded it from :) Andreas -- Andreas Braml [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0xEB7B9BFB http://braml.org/andreas_braml.asc Keyserver: random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de pgpULGLv5lLLP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
I was looking for a place to download 6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso to test om my PowerMac G4. But I cannot find it on any of the ftp- sites og mirrors. Where can I download it? Sincerely, Øystein Holmen Den 15. jul. 2005 kl. 12:56 skrev Scott Long: Announcement The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the work that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining direct device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. This release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support for the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple of the architectures. We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be identified and worked out. Availability of ISO images is given below. If you have an older system you want to update using the normal CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6 (though that will change for the Release Candidates later). Problem reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command. The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the todo list: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough idea for some of the dates. The current rough schedule is available but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined": http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html Known Issues For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out properly, so the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt. You will need to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab. Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config dialog. For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some FreeBSD 5 applications to run. Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5 executables. Availability The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are available on most of the FreeBSD Mirror sites. A list of the mirror sites is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors- ftp.html The MD5s are: MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-bootonly.iso) = eabda0a086e5492fe43626ce5be1d7e1 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-disc1.iso) = d7fe900bb3d5f259cc3cc565c4f303e4 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-bootonly.iso) = 9b04cb2f68300071c717f4aa4220bdac MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso) = cb0f21feaf8b7dd9621f82a8157f6ed8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc2.iso) = 84d40bc291a9ed5cd69dfa717445eeb5 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-bootonly.iso) = 38e0b202ee7d279bae002b883f7074ec MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc1.iso) = b2baa8c18d4637ef02822a0da6717408 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc2.iso) = 2b151a3cea8843d322c75ff76779ffcf MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-bootonly.iso) = 97800ec7d4b29927a8e66a2b53e987fb MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-disc1.iso) = 7d29cd9317997136507078971762a0d8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-livefs.iso) = 6ff974e60a3964cf16fcec05925c14e9 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-pc98-disc1.iso) = 40a3134cce89bd5f7033d8b9181edf91 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso) = 2f64974e9bd5adcf813f5d35ff742443 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-disc1.iso) = b2562c38414ff4866f5ed8b3a38683c8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-bootonly.iso) = ae9610aeb1169d2cc649628606014441 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc1.iso) = af21752630b13cf60c9498fbf7f793b6 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc2.iso) = 3241af814bfe93a97707c7a964c57718 Thanks to Ken Smith, Marcel Moolenaar, Wilko Bulte, and Takahashi Yoshihiro, and Peter Grehan for doing the sparc64, ia64, alpha, pc98, and ppc builds, respectively. Thanks also to Ken Smith for his help on writing much of this announcement. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable- [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
On Friday 15 July 2005 04:53 pm, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 22:12 CEST schrieb Eirik Øverby: > > On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > > Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 16:58 CEST schrieb Marc G. Fournier: > > >> And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before > > >> 5.x is no > > >> longer supported? I'm just about to deploy a new server, and > > >> was *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just > > >> skipping 5.x altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in > > >> 6.x that doing so at > > >> this time wouldn't be prudent? > > > > > > To post my opinion to the last part of the question: I'm also > > > deploying new > > > servers and I'll take RELENG_6 since there are so many > > > improovements (nullfs in jails etc.) and 6-current has been > > > pretty stable for me on my > > > > Hoi, > > what's changed wrt jails? And nullfs? I haven't been following > > the "news" as closely as I perhaps should, but I feel that the > > jail functionality doesn't get half as much attention in release > > notes as it should... Porting my jail-related tools to 5.x from > > 4.x was painful, but enjoyable when I was done. How does 6.x > > look? > > I'm not the developer guy so I can't tell you anything > authoritative but I know that there has been an awful perfomance > degradation when mounting nullfs-filesystems into a jail under > RELENG_5, espacially noticable with apache! I just know that Jeff > Roberson committed incredible lots of vm/vfs changes, perhaps this > also solved the md performance problem, at least the nullfs problem > was solved! > The nullfs performace issue has been fixed. -- Anish Mistry pgpu9T1iSxoEY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 22:12 CEST schrieb Eirik Øverby: > On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 16:58 CEST schrieb Marc G. Fournier: > >> And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x > >> is no > >> longer supported? I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was > >> *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x > >> altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing > >> so at > >> this time wouldn't be prudent? > > > > To post my opinion to the last part of the question: I'm also > > deploying new > > servers and I'll take RELENG_6 since there are so many improovements > > (nullfs in jails etc.) and 6-current has been pretty stable for me > > on my > > Hoi, > what's changed wrt jails? And nullfs? I haven't been following the > "news" as closely as I perhaps should, but I feel that the jail > functionality doesn't get half as much attention in release notes as > it should... Porting my jail-related tools to 5.x from 4.x was > painful, but enjoyable when I was done. How does 6.x look? I'm not the developer guy so I can't tell you anything authoritative but I know that there has been an awful perfomance degradation when mounting nullfs-filesystems into a jail under RELENG_5, espacially noticable with apache! I just know that Jeff Roberson committed incredible lots of vm/vfs changes, perhaps this also solved the md performance problem, at least the nullfs problem was solved! Jail management was also a lot improved, but that was back in 5.4 I think. I'll do some extensive Jail test the next view weeks, I fear there are oddities left (I had plenty of them with milter-sender and apache's mod_proxy for example under 5.4) -Harry > > /Eirik > > > UP workstation with all kinds of new stuff enabled (ULE > > PREEMPTION), so I > > guess I won't see more troubles than with 5.4, I think less :) > > > > -Harry > > > >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Scott Long wrote: > >>> Announcement > >>> > >>> > >>> The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the > >>> availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the > >>> FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. > >>> > >>> FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 > >>> branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the > >>> work > >>> that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and > >>> improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining > >>> direct > >>> device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe > >>> UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 > >>> features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver > >>> improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI > >>> power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network > >>> infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly > >>> improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. > >>> This > >>> release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support > >>> for > >>> the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. > >>> > >>> This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly > >>> Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are > >>> available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple > >>> of the > >>> architectures. > >>> > >>> We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be > >>> identified and worked out. Availability of ISO images is given > >>> below. > >>> If you have an older system you want to update using the normal > >>> CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6 > >>> (though that will change for the Release Candidates later). Problem > >>> reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command. > >>> > >>> The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the > >>> todo list: > >>> > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html > >>> > >>> Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough > >>> idea for some of the dates. The current rough schedule is available > >>> but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined": > >>> > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html > >>> > >>> Known Issues > >>> > >>> > >>> For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out > >>> properly, so > >>> the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt. You will need > >>> to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab. > >>> Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config > >>> dialog. > >>> > >>> For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some > >>> FreeBSD 5 applications to run. Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the > >>> kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5 > >>> executables. > >>> > >>> > >>> Availability > >>> > >>> > >>> The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are availab
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Emanuel Strobl wrote: Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 16:58 CEST schrieb Marc G. Fournier: And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x is no longer supported? I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing so at this time wouldn't be prudent? To post my opinion to the last part of the question: I'm also deploying new servers and I'll take RELENG_6 since there are so many improovements (nullfs in jails etc.) and 6-current has been pretty stable for me on my Hoi, what's changed wrt jails? And nullfs? I haven't been following the "news" as closely as I perhaps should, but I feel that the jail functionality doesn't get half as much attention in release notes as it should... Porting my jail-related tools to 5.x from 4.x was painful, but enjoyable when I was done. How does 6.x look? /Eirik UP workstation with all kinds of new stuff enabled (ULE PREEMPTION), so I guess I won't see more troubles than with 5.4, I think less :) -Harry On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Scott Long wrote: Announcement The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the work that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining direct device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. This release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support for the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple of the architectures. We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be identified and worked out. Availability of ISO images is given below. If you have an older system you want to update using the normal CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6 (though that will change for the Release Candidates later). Problem reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command. The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the todo list: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough idea for some of the dates. The current rough schedule is available but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined": http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html Known Issues For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out properly, so the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt. You will need to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab. Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config dialog. For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some FreeBSD 5 applications to run. Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5 executables. Availability The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are available on most of the FreeBSD Mirror sites. A list of the mirror sites is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors- ftp. html The MD5s are: MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-bootonly.iso) = eabda0a086e5492fe43626ce5be1d7e1 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-disc1.iso) = d7fe900bb3d5f259cc3cc565c4f303e4 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-bootonly.iso) = 9b04cb2f68300071c717f4aa4220bdac MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso) = cb0f21feaf8b7dd9621f82a8157f6ed8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc2.iso) = 84d40bc291a9ed5cd69dfa717445eeb5 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-bootonly.iso) = 38e0b202ee7d279bae002b883f7074ec MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc1.iso) = b2baa8c18d4637ef02822a0da6717408 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc2.iso) = 2b151a3cea8843d322c75ff76779ffcf MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-bootonly.iso) = 97800ec7d4b29927a8e66a2b53e987fb MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-disc1.iso) = 7d29cd9317997136507078971762a0d8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-livefs.iso) = 6ff974e60a3964cf16fcec05925c14e9 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-pc98-disc1.iso) = 40a3134cce89bd5f7033d8b9181edf91 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso) = 2f64974e9bd5adcf813f5d35ff742443 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-disc1.iso) = b2562c38414ff4866f5ed8b3a38683c8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-booto
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
While Scott's and Colin's responses should be viewed as canonical, for the record the place that the support matrix is documented is on the Security web page at http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#adv. Note that this only applies to the _security_ team. Traditionally the ports team has tried to keep everything going on at least those branches; however, in the near future this is going to start becoming more problematic, due to both the growth in the number of ports; the larger number of simultaneous -stable releases we are trying to support; and the fact that many developers have moved away from 4.X. (In particular, it is my understanding that the next release of GNOME due this fall is not going to be supported, by default, on 4.X; the next major release of KDE, due sometime later this year, will probably not be either. From this, it might be reasonable to conclude that the time that 4.X is viable for the desktop are drawing to a close.) Also to reiterate, the differences (at least for ports) between 5.X and 6.X is much smaller than for 4.X and 5.X; the difference between 6.X and 7.X is even smaller than that. Although I can't cite statistics in this case, my guess from reading the mailing lists is that most ports work is now being done on 5.X or 6.X and then only retrofitted to 4.X when demand warrants it. Finally, consider that if you want to upgrade from 4.X to 6.X without doing a complete reinstall, IIRC you will have to first upgrade to 5.X on the way in any case. Of course, whether or not one should do a complete reinstall between major versions _anyway_ is another discussion entirely. As a side-note, due to the size requirements in the FTP archives, it is becoming increasingly difficult to house packages for every supported release. Although there is no concrete decision yet, it seems likely that we will need to drop the 5.3-RELEASE packages and only archive packages for 5.4-RELEASE and 5-STABLE. If so, this will probably set a precedent for future releases (e.g. only having the latest release and latest snapshot for each major release). These are all things that people should take into account when trying to decide which release to upgrade to. My own view is that users who want to use packages are really going to be well-advised to be on either 5.4 or 6.0 pretty quickly; and that anyone who wishes to stay on 4.X for much longer should be prepared to increasingly provide their own ports support. mcl ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 04:27:44PM +0100, Yann Golanski wrote: > Quoth Scott Long on Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:18:50 -0600 > > Part of the purpose of moving quickly on to RELENG_6 is so that the > > migration work for users from 5.x to 6.x is very small. 6.x is really > > just an evolutionary step from 5.x, not the life-altering revolutionary > > step that 4.x->5.x was. It should be quite easy to deploy and maintain > > 5.x and 6.x machines side-by-side and migrate them as the need arises. > > We don't want people to be stranded on RELENG_5 like they were with > > RELENG_4. 6.x offers everything of 5.x, but with better performance > > and (hopefully) better stability. If you're thinking about evaluating > > 5.x, give 6.0 a try also. > > Does that mean that a cvsup with "*default tag=RELENG_6" and a rebuilt > of the world will work smoothly? Would it work at all? Is it even > recommended? I did that without problem. There are some issues with libc.5.so and libc.6.so mostly (I think) having to do with perl. My only real issue was Japanese input, fixed by upgrading a few ports. Everything else seemed to work without trouble. - -- Scott GPG KeyID EB3467D6 ( 1B848 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Xander: Oh. Okay. You and Willow go do the superpower thing, I'll stay behind and putt around the Batcave with crusty old Alfred here. Giles: Ah-ah, no. I am no Alfred, sir. No, you forget. Alfred had a job. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFC19o2+lTVdes0Z9YRAmsKAKCHpED4gViYG9rBWVjH5Ro2Dj/pjwCfRmIa c9hZgRWzQ7eo+sKQGkskBC0= =/YhW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Quoth Scott Long on Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:18:50 -0600 > Part of the purpose of moving quickly on to RELENG_6 is so that the > migration work for users from 5.x to 6.x is very small. 6.x is really > just an evolutionary step from 5.x, not the life-altering revolutionary > step that 4.x->5.x was. It should be quite easy to deploy and maintain > 5.x and 6.x machines side-by-side and migrate them as the need arises. > We don't want people to be stranded on RELENG_5 like they were with > RELENG_4. 6.x offers everything of 5.x, but with better performance > and (hopefully) better stability. If you're thinking about evaluating > 5.x, give 6.0 a try also. Does that mean that a cvsup with "*default tag=RELENG_6" and a rebuilt of the world will work smoothly? Would it work at all? Is it even recommended? I suspect that re-compiling every port is a good idea after making the world in any case. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=*=- www.kierun.org PGP: 009D 7287 C4A7 FD4F 1680 06E4 F751 7006 9DE2 6318 pgpDOMGuQyjfg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Marc G. Fournier wrote: And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x is no longer supported? I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing so at this time wouldn't be prudent? There will be a 5.5 release this fall and possibly a 5.6 a few months after that. Per the standard procedure, the security team will support the branch for 2 years after the final release. There will likely be other developers who have an interest in backporting changes to RELENG_5 for some time to come, just as has been done with RELENG_4. So the earliest that RELENG_5 will be de-supported is late 2007. However Part of the purpose of moving quickly on to RELENG_6 is so that the migration work for users from 5.x to 6.x is very small. 6.x is really just an evolutionary step from 5.x, not the life-altering revolutionary step that 4.x->5.x was. It should be quite easy to deploy and maintain 5.x and 6.x machines side-by-side and migrate them as the need arises. We don't want people to be stranded on RELENG_5 like they were with RELENG_4. 6.x offers everything of 5.x, but with better performance and (hopefully) better stability. If you're thinking about evaluating 5.x, give 6.0 a try also. Scott ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x is no > longer supported? The FreeBSD Security Team will support FreeBSD 5.x until at least the end of September 2007. Support from other teams and the ports tree may end sooner, but since there aren't very large differences between 5.x and 6.x I doubt there will be many problems. > I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was > *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x > altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing so at > this time wouldn't be prudent? If I was deploying a new server today, I'd install FreeBSD 5.4. If I were planning on installing a new server next month, I'd install FreeBSD 6.0-BETA-whatever-number-we're-up-to-by-then. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 16:58 CEST schrieb Marc G. Fournier: > And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x is no > longer supported? I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was > *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x > altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing so at > this time wouldn't be prudent? To post my opinion to the last part of the question: I'm also deploying new servers and I'll take RELENG_6 since there are so many improovements (nullfs in jails etc.) and 6-current has been pretty stable for me on my UP workstation with all kinds of new stuff enabled (ULE PREEMPTION), so I guess I won't see more troubles than with 5.4, I think less :) -Harry > > On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Scott Long wrote: > > Announcement > > > > > > The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the > > availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the > > FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. > > > > FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 > > branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the work > > that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and > > improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining direct > > device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe > > UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 > > features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver > > improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI > > power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network > > infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly > > improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. This > > release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support for > > the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. > > > > This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly > > Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are > > available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple of the > > architectures. > > > > We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be > > identified and worked out. Availability of ISO images is given below. > > If you have an older system you want to update using the normal > > CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6 > > (though that will change for the Release Candidates later). Problem > > reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command. > > > > The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the > > todo list: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html > > > > Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough > > idea for some of the dates. The current rough schedule is available > > but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined": > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html > > > > Known Issues > > > > > > For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out properly, so > > the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt. You will need > > to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab. > > Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config > > dialog. > > > > For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some > > FreeBSD 5 applications to run. Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the > > kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5 > > executables. > > > > > > Availability > > > > > > The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are available on most of the FreeBSD > > Mirror sites. A list of the mirror sites is available here: > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp. > >html > > > > The MD5s are: > > > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-bootonly.iso) = eabda0a086e5492fe43626ce5be1d7e1 > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-disc1.iso) = d7fe900bb3d5f259cc3cc565c4f303e4 > > > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-bootonly.iso) = 9b04cb2f68300071c717f4aa4220bdac > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso) = cb0f21feaf8b7dd9621f82a8157f6ed8 > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc2.iso) = 84d40bc291a9ed5cd69dfa717445eeb5 > > > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-bootonly.iso) = 38e0b202ee7d279bae002b883f7074ec > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc1.iso) = b2baa8c18d4637ef02822a0da6717408 > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc2.iso) = 2b151a3cea8843d322c75ff76779ffcf > > > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-bootonly.iso) = 97800ec7d4b29927a8e66a2b53e987fb > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-disc1.iso) = 7d29cd9317997136507078971762a0d8 > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-livefs.iso) = 6ff974e60a3964cf16fcec05925c14e9 > > > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-pc98-disc1.iso) = 40a3134cce89bd5f7033d8b9181edf91 > > > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso) = > > 2f64974e9bd5adcf813f5d35ff742443 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-disc1.iso) = > > b2562c38414ff4866f5ed8b3a38683c8 > > > > MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-bootonly.iso) = > > ae9610aeb1169d2cc649628606014441 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc1.iso) = > > a
Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x is no longer supported? I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing so at this time wouldn't be prudent? On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Scott Long wrote: Announcement The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the work that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining direct device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. This release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support for the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple of the architectures. We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be identified and worked out. Availability of ISO images is given below. If you have an older system you want to update using the normal CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6 (though that will change for the Release Candidates later). Problem reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command. The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the todo list: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough idea for some of the dates. The current rough schedule is available but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined": http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html Known Issues For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out properly, so the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt. You will need to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab. Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config dialog. For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some FreeBSD 5 applications to run. Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5 executables. Availability The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are available on most of the FreeBSD Mirror sites. A list of the mirror sites is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html The MD5s are: MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-bootonly.iso) = eabda0a086e5492fe43626ce5be1d7e1 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-disc1.iso) = d7fe900bb3d5f259cc3cc565c4f303e4 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-bootonly.iso) = 9b04cb2f68300071c717f4aa4220bdac MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso) = cb0f21feaf8b7dd9621f82a8157f6ed8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc2.iso) = 84d40bc291a9ed5cd69dfa717445eeb5 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-bootonly.iso) = 38e0b202ee7d279bae002b883f7074ec MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc1.iso) = b2baa8c18d4637ef02822a0da6717408 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc2.iso) = 2b151a3cea8843d322c75ff76779ffcf MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-bootonly.iso) = 97800ec7d4b29927a8e66a2b53e987fb MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-disc1.iso) = 7d29cd9317997136507078971762a0d8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-livefs.iso) = 6ff974e60a3964cf16fcec05925c14e9 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-pc98-disc1.iso) = 40a3134cce89bd5f7033d8b9181edf91 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso) = 2f64974e9bd5adcf813f5d35ff742443 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-disc1.iso) = b2562c38414ff4866f5ed8b3a38683c8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-bootonly.iso) = ae9610aeb1169d2cc649628606014441 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc1.iso) = af21752630b13cf60c9498fbf7f793b6 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc2.iso) = 3241af814bfe93a97707c7a964c57718 Thanks to Ken Smith, Marcel Moolenaar, Wilko Bulte, and Takahashi Yoshihiro, and Peter Grehan for doing the sparc64, ia64, alpha, pc98, and ppc builds, respectively. Thanks also to Ken Smith for his help on writing much of this announcement. -- This mail is for the internal use of the FreeBSD project committers, and as such is private. This mail may not be published or forwarded outside the FreeBSD committers' group or disclosed to other unauthorised parties without the explicit permission of the author(s). Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615
FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Announcement The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the work that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining direct device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. This release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support for the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple of the architectures. We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be identified and worked out. Availability of ISO images is given below. If you have an older system you want to update using the normal CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6 (though that will change for the Release Candidates later). Problem reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command. The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the todo list: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough idea for some of the dates. The current rough schedule is available but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined": http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html Known Issues For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out properly, so the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt. You will need to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab. Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config dialog. For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some FreeBSD 5 applications to run. Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5 executables. Availability The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are available on most of the FreeBSD Mirror sites. A list of the mirror sites is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html The MD5s are: MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-bootonly.iso) = eabda0a086e5492fe43626ce5be1d7e1 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-disc1.iso) = d7fe900bb3d5f259cc3cc565c4f303e4 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-bootonly.iso) = 9b04cb2f68300071c717f4aa4220bdac MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso) = cb0f21feaf8b7dd9621f82a8157f6ed8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc2.iso) = 84d40bc291a9ed5cd69dfa717445eeb5 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-bootonly.iso) = 38e0b202ee7d279bae002b883f7074ec MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc1.iso) = b2baa8c18d4637ef02822a0da6717408 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc2.iso) = 2b151a3cea8843d322c75ff76779ffcf MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-bootonly.iso) = 97800ec7d4b29927a8e66a2b53e987fb MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-disc1.iso) = 7d29cd9317997136507078971762a0d8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-livefs.iso) = 6ff974e60a3964cf16fcec05925c14e9 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-pc98-disc1.iso) = 40a3134cce89bd5f7033d8b9181edf91 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso) = 2f64974e9bd5adcf813f5d35ff742443 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-disc1.iso) = b2562c38414ff4866f5ed8b3a38683c8 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-bootonly.iso) = ae9610aeb1169d2cc649628606014441 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc1.iso) = af21752630b13cf60c9498fbf7f793b6 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc2.iso) = 3241af814bfe93a97707c7a964c57718 Thanks to Ken Smith, Marcel Moolenaar, Wilko Bulte, and Takahashi Yoshihiro, and Peter Grehan for doing the sparc64, ia64, alpha, pc98, and ppc builds, respectively. Thanks also to Ken Smith for his help on writing much of this announcement. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"