Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-17 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Norberto Meijome wrote:
 Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm going to call one more time today.  If I get no better  
  assistance, I will seek out a different company.  If you all have any  
  recommendations let me know.

http://bsn.com : Small v. flexible BSD ISP server hosting  provision.  Sparcs
available too.  http://consol.de Bigger.  Both host http://berklix.org servers.

 Search the archives for discussions on FreeBSD Hosting.

http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-17 Thread Michael Williams

Alright all,

First and foremost, you ladies and gents have been *amazingly*  
responsive and helpful; for that I thank you.


We've gotten the root issue resolved.  I fiiinally spoke to  
someone that was familiar enough to log a request for good ole  
single user mode to simply blast the root password.  I had root  
access within 15 minutes.  It turns out that even the root password  
they had on hand was wrong so they were forced to resolve the issue.   
I am now all-powerful. . .well on that server anyway. ;)  I will  
likely be keeping Plesk around in the short term in order to allow  
lower admins to easily set up a few clients, but its days are  
numbered.


Thanks again for all your input/help.

Best Regards,
Michael


On Jul 17, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:


Norberto Meijome wrote:

Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm going to call one more time today.  If I get no better
assistance, I will seek out a different company.  If you all have  
any

recommendations let me know.


http://bsn.com : Small v. flexible BSD ISP server hosting   
provision.  Sparcs
available too.  http://consol.de Bigger.  Both host http:// 
berklix.org servers.



Search the archives for discussions on FreeBSD Hosting.


http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:35:52 -0400
Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .  Anyway, if  
 you can think of *any* solution to this issue, it'd be much  
 appreciated.  For the record, the following are my Plesk Control  
 Panel offerings for SSH login:

Hi Michael,
you hadn't mentioned you are using Plesk :)

 
 /bin/sh
 /bin/csh
 /bin/tcsh
 /bin/sh(chrooted)
 /usr/local/bin/bash

Make sure you choose /bin/sh (NOT CHROOTED). 

also, if  you are SSHing to your server via an account created with Plesk, 
which can creates chroots environments for those accounts. 

Try ssh as admin with your plesk password straight into the box.

If I may ask, do you need Plesk? For some users and situations, it may be a 
good tool ( shared webhosting with many accounts ), and even in those cases 
I've found it to be more problem that is worth it, as it adds so many layers of 
scripts and software that you are mostly stuck with whatever is compatible with 
Plesk, or hacks around that (either way, not ideal). YMMV, of course.

B

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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Michael Williams
No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling  
hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the  
server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I  
just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for  
enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any  
other suggestions?


Regards,
Michael

On Jul 16, 2007, at 2:04 AM, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:35:52 -0400
Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


.  Anyway, if
you can think of *any* solution to this issue, it'd be much
appreciated.  For the record, the following are my Plesk Control
Panel offerings for SSH login:


Hi Michael,
you hadn't mentioned you are using Plesk :)



/bin/sh
/bin/csh
/bin/tcsh
/bin/sh(chrooted)
/usr/local/bin/bash


Make sure you choose /bin/sh (NOT CHROOTED).

also, if  you are SSHing to your server via an account created with  
Plesk, which can creates chroots environments for those accounts.


Try ssh as admin with your plesk password straight into the box.

If I may ask, do you need Plesk? For some users and situations, it  
may be a good tool ( shared webhosting with many accounts ), and  
even in those cases I've found it to be more problem that is worth  
it, as it adds so many layers of scripts and software that you are  
mostly stuck with whatever is compatible with Plesk, or hacks  
around that (either way, not ideal). YMMV, of course.


B

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when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is  
worse. You have been Warned.


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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Tom Samplonius

- Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling  
 hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the  
 server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I 
 
 just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for  
 enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any  
 other suggestions?

  You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for the password. 
 You need the root password, and you need to have an account that is a member 
of the wheel group (use groups when you ssh to see if your account is ok).

  They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better off inside 
the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting company, and a whole bunch 
of our dedicated server customers are in over their heads with their servers as 
it is.  Given that you asked for Plesk, and are now asking for root, they are 
probably has made them worried that the next call from you will be that you 
deleted /etc, and  your server won't boot anymore.

  If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will not want 
Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.  Plesk includes Plesk 
specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.  All patches and updates can only 
come from SWSoft, or the Plesk universe will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a 
specific FreeBSD version too.  Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on 
the other hand, it is big GUI thing, and people like it.


Tom
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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Michael Williams

Tom,

Again, Plesk just came with the server config we asked for.  We  
didn't ask for Plesk, we *asked* for the specific hardware.  Plesk  
was free.  *rolls eyes*


Regards,
Michael

On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote:



- Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling
hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the
server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I

just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for
enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any
other suggestions?


  You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for  
the password.  You need the root password, and you need to have an  
account that is a member of the wheel group (use groups when you  
ssh to see if your account is ok).


  They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better  
off inside the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting  
company, and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in  
over their heads with their servers as it is.  Given that you asked  
for Plesk, and are now asking for root, they are probably has made  
them worried that the next call from you will be that you deleted / 
etc, and  your server won't boot anymore.


  If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will  
not want Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.   
Plesk includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.   
All patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk  
universe will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD  
version too.  Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on the  
other hand, it is big GUI thing, and people like it.



Tom


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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Michael Williams
Also, if you follow the thread, you'll note that we've asked for root  
several times.  Yet, they keep asking us for the root password so  
that they can make changes.  A lot of canned responses, etc.


Regards,
Michael


On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote:



- Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling
hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the
server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I

just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for
enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any
other suggestions?


  You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for  
the password.  You need the root password, and you need to have an  
account that is a member of the wheel group (use groups when you  
ssh to see if your account is ok).


  They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better  
off inside the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting  
company, and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in  
over their heads with their servers as it is.  Given that you asked  
for Plesk, and are now asking for root, they are probably has made  
them worried that the next call from you will be that you deleted / 
etc, and  your server won't boot anymore.


  If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will  
not want Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.   
Plesk includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.   
All patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk  
universe will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD  
version too.  Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on the  
other hand, it is big GUI thing, and people like it.



Tom


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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:52:28 -0400
Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, if you follow the thread, you'll note that we've asked for root  
 several times.  Yet, they keep asking us for the root password so  
 that they can make changes.  A lot of canned responses, etc.

ack - added them to my 'do not touch' hosting companies.

cheers!

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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 08:52:28AM -0400, Michael Williams wrote:
  Also, if you follow the thread, you'll note that we've asked for root 
  several times.  Yet, they keep asking us for the root password so that they 
  can make changes.  A lot of canned responses, etc.

Again, no offence, but this is something you need to take up with
Cedant.  It's fairly obvious at this point that it's not an issue with
FreeBSD, but rather Cedant's hosting/service environment.

If a provider whom you've established service with continues to give you
canned responses and general runarounds, and you cannot get them to
give you something as simple as root-level access to your own machine,
then it's not worth hosting with them.  They sound inept, plain and
simple, and that's disappointing.

Not to dishearten you, but this is exactly why I try to avoid hosting
providers (and I happen to be one, just not commercial) -- dedicated
boxes turning out to be Plesk-managed virtual environments, or a VMware
box split across an undisclosed number of other users using the same
hardware, same disk, etc...  One customer gets DoS'd and it affects you
and everyone else.  Hard disk failure, same thing.  I prefer
co-location; give me access to a cooled datacenter, a secure cabinet,
and a network drop and leave the rest to me.  Of course, the difference
in price between the two methods is quite severe.  :-)

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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Vince
For most versions of plesk i've come across (I look after a load of
linux servers with it installed,) if you have the plesk admin then you
have root. Look for the modules option, then look for the add modules,
this should let you upload a shell script which is then run as root
(horribly insecure but thats plesk, and if you fiddle with their setting
enough you can change the css of the webapp not to display the page) If
this is the same on FreeBSD as on linux you can create a new UID 0 user
if need be using pw in a shell script, or you can put a ssh public key
in to roots authorized_keys file. I'd definitely advise you get plesk
removed if you intend to administrate the box by hand though.

If thats no help, when you log into the box by ssh, what is the output 
of
grep root /etc/passwd
it should be something like
root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
if not then they have renamed/removed root so try looking in /etc/passwd
 for a user with uid of 0 (third field.)
This should at least get you a username to ask their support about. If
they have actually removed the root user your a bit stuffed and

Hope some of thats some help.

Vince



Michael Williams wrote:
 Tom,
 
 Again, Plesk just came with the server config we asked for.  We didn't
 ask for Plesk, we *asked* for the specific hardware.  Plesk was free. 
 *rolls eyes*
 
 Regards,
 Michael
 
 On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote:
 

 - Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling
 hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the
 server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I

 just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for
 enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any
 other suggestions?

   You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for the
 password.  You need the root password, and you need to have an account
 that is a member of the wheel group (use groups when you ssh to see
 if your account is ok).

   They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better
 off inside the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting company,
 and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in over their
 heads with their servers as it is.  Given that you asked for Plesk,
 and are now asking for root, they are probably has made them worried
 that the next call from you will be that you deleted /etc, and  your
 server won't boot anymore.

   If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will not
 want Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.  Plesk
 includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.  All
 patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk universe
 will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD version too. 
 Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on the other hand, it is
 big GUI thing, and people like it.


 Tom
 
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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Michael Williams

First, the output of the grep is:

root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
daemon:*:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/root:/usr/sbin/nologin


. . .that said, the Plesk Module Loader only allows for .tgz and  
.tbz files and is anal about them being of a module format,  
whatever structure may be.  I've tried what I thought were  
appropriate modules, and it rejected them saying they were not true  
modules.


I'm going to call one more time today.  If I get no better  
assistance, I will seek out a different company.  If you all have any  
recommendations let me know.  Obviously, the best solution would be  
to have my ISP set me up with a static IP and massive amounts of  
bandwidth.  But, seeing as how that's at least a good 30 years off. . .


Regards,
Michael


On Jul 16, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Vince wrote:


For most versions of plesk i've come across (I look after a load of
linux servers with it installed,) if you have the plesk admin then you
have root. Look for the modules option, then look for the add modules,
this should let you upload a shell script which is then run as root
(horribly insecure but thats plesk, and if you fiddle with their  
setting
enough you can change the css of the webapp not to display the  
page) If
this is the same on FreeBSD as on linux you can create a new UID 0  
user

if need be using pw in a shell script, or you can put a ssh public key
in to roots authorized_keys file. I'd definitely advise you get plesk
removed if you intend to administrate the box by hand though.

	If thats no help, when you log into the box by ssh, what is the  
output of

grep root /etc/passwd
it should be something like
root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
if not then they have renamed/removed root so try looking in /etc/ 
passwd

 for a user with uid of 0 (third field.)
This should at least get you a username to ask their support about. If
they have actually removed the root user your a bit stuffed and

Hope some of thats some help.

Vince



Michael Williams wrote:

Tom,

Again, Plesk just came with the server config we asked for.  We  
didn't
ask for Plesk, we *asked* for the specific hardware.  Plesk was  
free.

*rolls eyes*

Regards,
Michael

On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote:



- Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling
hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the
server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix  
shell.  I


just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for
enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any
other suggestions?


  You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for  
the
password.  You need the root password, and you need to have an  
account
that is a member of the wheel group (use groups when you ssh to  
see

if your account is ok).

  They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better
off inside the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting  
company,
and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in over  
their

heads with their servers as it is.  Given that you asked for Plesk,
and are now asking for root, they are probably has made them worried
that the next call from you will be that you deleted /etc, and  your
server won't boot anymore.

  If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will  
not

want Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.  Plesk
includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.  All
patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk universe
will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD version too.
Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on the other hand,  
it is

big GUI thing, and people like it.


Tom


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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Vince
Amusing to hear they are more secure on FreeBSD than linux although its
a shame that didnt work for you. They didnt enable you to use sudo
instead of su or something like that did they?
I'm afraid i cant recommend any FreeBSD hosting companies though
personal experience, (work only does linux and windows,) but i'm sure an
ask on or a search of the archives of the freebsd-questions@ ,
freebsd-net@ or freebsd-isp@ lists will throw up some suggestions.


Vince

Michael Williams wrote:
 First, the output of the grep is:
 
 root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
 toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
 daemon:*:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/root:/usr/sbin/nologin
 
 
 . . .that said, the Plesk Module Loader only allows for .tgz and
 .tbz files and is anal about them being of a module format, whatever
 structure may be.  I've tried what I thought were appropriate modules,
 and it rejected them saying they were not true modules.
 
 I'm going to call one more time today.  If I get no better assistance, I
 will seek out a different company.  If you all have any recommendations
 let me know.  Obviously, the best solution would be to have my ISP set
 me up with a static IP and massive amounts of bandwidth.  But, seeing as
 how that's at least a good 30 years off. . .
 
 Regards,
 Michael
 
 
 On Jul 16, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Vince wrote:
 
 For most versions of plesk i've come across (I look after a load of
 linux servers with it installed,) if you have the plesk admin then you
 have root. Look for the modules option, then look for the add modules,
 this should let you upload a shell script which is then run as root
 (horribly insecure but thats plesk, and if you fiddle with their setting
 enough you can change the css of the webapp not to display the page) If
 this is the same on FreeBSD as on linux you can create a new UID 0 user
 if need be using pw in a shell script, or you can put a ssh public key
 in to roots authorized_keys file. I'd definitely advise you get plesk
 removed if you intend to administrate the box by hand though.

 If thats no help, when you log into the box by ssh, what is the
 output of
 grep root /etc/passwd
 it should be something like
 root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
 if not then they have renamed/removed root so try looking in /etc/passwd
  for a user with uid of 0 (third field.)
 This should at least get you a username to ask their support about. If
 they have actually removed the root user your a bit stuffed and

 Hope some of thats some help.

 Vince



 Michael Williams wrote:
 Tom,

 Again, Plesk just came with the server config we asked for.  We didn't
 ask for Plesk, we *asked* for the specific hardware.  Plesk was free.
 *rolls eyes*

 Regards,
 Michael

 On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote:


 - Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling
 hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the
 server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I

 just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for
 enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any
 other suggestions?

   You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for the
 password.  You need the root password, and you need to have an account
 that is a member of the wheel group (use groups when you ssh to see
 if your account is ok).

   They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better
 off inside the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting company,
 and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in over their
 heads with their servers as it is.  Given that you asked for Plesk,
 and are now asking for root, they are probably has made them worried
 that the next call from you will be that you deleted /etc, and  your
 server won't boot anymore.

   If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will not
 want Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.  Plesk
 includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.  All
 patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk universe
 will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD version too.
 Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on the other hand, it is
 big GUI thing, and people like it.


 Tom

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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:25:28 -0400
Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going to call one more time today.  If I get no better  
 assistance, I will seek out a different company.  If you all have any  
 recommendations let me know.

 we still have  some (linux) servers with ThePlanet, not the best place (quite 
big,lots of waiting in queue for scripted service) but ok for the job at hand.

For the last 6 mths or os i've been very happy with Layered Technology - vere 
reliable and know their stuff.

If you can afford it, Rackspace are really good, though i dont know if they 
still offer FBSD

Search the archives for discussions on FreeBSD Hosting.

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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-15 Thread Michael Williams
Well, that's just it.  As with many large corporations, there appear  
to be a great many degrees of separation between the folks we're  
talking to and the folks we *need* to talk to.  That aside, we've  
been assured that it is absolutely our own dedicated server. (It'd  
better be as we just upgraded from Virtual to Dedicated hardware).   
I'm at wits end regarding this issue though.  I'm tempted to simply  
go back to hosted solutions instead of dealing with this.  Anyway, if  
you can think of *any* solution to this issue, it'd be much  
appreciated.  For the record, the following are my Plesk Control  
Panel offerings for SSH login:


/bin/sh
/bin/csh
/bin/tcsh
/bin/sh(chrooted)
/usr/local/bin/bash

. . .I've tried each, to no avail.  I'm absolutely 100% lost.

Regards,
Michael



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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:35:52 -0700
From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HOW TO:  Enabling root on a new server?
To: Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:06:07PM -0400, Michael Williams wrote:
 I recently purchased a co-located server from Cedant and need to  
enable the
 root user.  It's running FreeBSD 6.1.  Currently there appears to  
be no root
 user enabled on the server.  I can't even su to root.  I've  
tried using
 pw to add my user to wheel but I receive a warning informing  
me that I
 must be root to even do such a thing.  You can see my quandary.   
Please

 advise.


FreeBSD, out-of-the-box, definitely includes user root, and there is
no password (unless during the installation you choose to set one).

This sounds like a question you should be talking to Cedant/your
provider about.  What you purchased may not be a real co-located box
that's personally dedicated to you -- it may be something shared with
other people, and something that Cedant maintains.  This is purely
speculative on my part, because I know nothing about their services.
But this really does sound like something specific to their servers.


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HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-12 Thread Michael Williams

Hi All,

I recently purchased a co-located server from Cedant and need to  
enable the root user.  It's running FreeBSD 6.1.  Currently there  
appears to be no root user enabled on the server.  I can't even su  
to root.  I've tried using pw to add my user to wheel but I  
receive a warning informing me that I must be root to even do such a  
thing.  You can see my quandary.  Please advise.


Regards,
Michael
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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:06:07PM -0400, Michael Williams wrote:
  I recently purchased a co-located server from Cedant and need to enable the 
  root user.  It's running FreeBSD 6.1.  Currently there appears to be no root 
  user enabled on the server.  I can't even su to root.  I've tried using 
  pw to add my user to wheel but I receive a warning informing me that I 
  must be root to even do such a thing.  You can see my quandary.  Please 
  advise.

FreeBSD, out-of-the-box, definitely includes user root, and there is
no password (unless during the installation you choose to set one).

This sounds like a question you should be talking to Cedant/your
provider about.  What you purchased may not be a real co-located box
that's personally dedicated to you -- it may be something shared with
other people, and something that Cedant maintains.  This is purely
speculative on my part, because I know nothing about their services.
But this really does sound like something specific to their servers.

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