Re: install touching mbr

2010-07-24 Thread S Roberts
Hello,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:28:25 -0700
Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
  On Saturday 03 April 2010 21:58:56 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
   I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said
   to leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd
   bootloader that was on control. this options is not what I think
   it should, or there is really a issue here ?
 
  I can confirm this behaviour.  Someone may have broken something
  when tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the
  Standard vs. BootMgr options were moved around compared to
  previous releases).
 
  I have a patch at http://reviews.freebsdish.org/r/15/ waiting to be
  committed. I believe the None option won't change the bootcode
  itself but will still mark the FreeBSD partition as active.
 
  --
  Bruce Cran
 
 I disagree with some of the wording. Specifically, lines 100-102 of
 usr.sbin/sade/menus.c
 
 If you will only have FreeBSD on the machine the boot manager is not
 needed and it slows down the boot while offering you the choice of
 which operating system to boot.
 
 ^^ not 100% true, as the boot manager also provides the option of PXE
 booting. This statement seems excessively wordy and unnecessary.
 
 Also, should this be broken up into two patches? One for the change in
 sade, the other for sysinstall? I'm not picky about this, but you are
 fixing two issues in two separate programs.

Any chance that this patch review was completed, approved and made it
into 8.1 Release?

Thanks.

Regards,

S Roberts

 
 -- randi
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Re: install touching mbr

2010-04-05 Thread S Roberts
Hello,

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:44:50 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Sat, 3 Apr 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 
  On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
  I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to
  leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader
  that was on control. this options is not what I think it should,
  or there is really a issue here ?
 
  I can confirm this behaviour.  Someone may have broken something
  when tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the
  Standard vs. BootMgr options were moved around compared to previous
  releases).
 
 Not sure how to repeat the bug, but it's been there at least a few 
 months:
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?alpine.BSF.2.00.0909262030060.13303
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?58c737d70909262054k7c7b1402w4f9c902fdca2640c
 

Sooo.., which **IS** the correct option to leave the existing MBR
untouched???

Regards,

S Roberts

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Re: install touching mbr

2010-04-05 Thread Randi Harper
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
 On Saturday 03 April 2010 21:58:56 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
  I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to
  leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader that
  was on control. this options is not what I think it should, or there
  is really a issue here ?

 I can confirm this behaviour.  Someone may have broken something when
 tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the Standard vs.
 BootMgr options were moved around compared to previous releases).

 I have a patch at http://reviews.freebsdish.org/r/15/ waiting to be committed.
 I believe the None option won't change the bootcode itself but will still
 mark the FreeBSD partition as active.

 --
 Bruce Cran

I disagree with some of the wording. Specifically, lines 100-102 of
usr.sbin/sade/menus.c

If you will only have FreeBSD on the machine the boot manager is not
needed and it slows down the boot while offering you the choice of
which operating system to boot.

^^ not 100% true, as the boot manager also provides the option of PXE
booting. This statement seems excessively wordy and unnecessary.

Also, should this be broken up into two patches? One for the change in
sade, the other for sysinstall? I'm not picky about this, but you are
fixing two issues in two separate programs.

-- randi
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install touching mbr

2010-04-03 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
hail,

I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to leave mbr 
untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader that was on control. this 
options is not what I think it should, or there is really a issue here ?

thanks,

matheus

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The God of balance you shall be

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
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Re: install touching mbr

2010-04-03 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
 I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to
 leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader that
 was on control. this options is not what I think it should, or there
 is really a issue here ?

I can confirm this behaviour.  Someone may have broken something when
tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the Standard vs.
BootMgr options were moved around compared to previous releases).

-- 
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| Parodius Networking   http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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Re: install touching mbr

2010-04-03 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:


On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:

I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to
leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader that
was on control. this options is not what I think it should, or there
is really a issue here ?


I can confirm this behaviour.  Someone may have broken something when
tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the Standard vs.
BootMgr options were moved around compared to previous releases).


Not sure how to repeat the bug, but it's been there at least a few 
months:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?alpine.BSF.2.00.0909262030060.13303
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?58c737d70909262054k7c7b1402w4f9c902fdca2640c

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: install touching mbr

2010-04-03 Thread Bruce Cran
On Saturday 03 April 2010 21:58:56 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
  I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to
  leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader that
  was on control. this options is not what I think it should, or there
  is really a issue here ?
 
 I can confirm this behaviour.  Someone may have broken something when
 tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the Standard vs.
 BootMgr options were moved around compared to previous releases).

I have a patch at http://reviews.freebsdish.org/r/15/ waiting to be committed. 
I believe the None option won't change the bootcode itself but will still 
mark the FreeBSD partition as active.

-- 
Bruce Cran
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