Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
-Original Message- From: Jim Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 03:54 AM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news Just in case anyone is interested in the press coverage this is getting: Heise Online was the first to post an article about us: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/77674 I also sent out something of a press announcement to a variety of news outlets, and I've contacted Slashdot/Newsforge for a followup article from the one they did about two months ago. But it seems someone else already submitted something to Slashdot, since they have an article about us now: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/04/2021234 What is immediately appearant is that not a lot of people realy realise what FreeDOS realy is like, i.e. we have an imago problem. Like the people saying that there should be a port of wine to FreeDOS. Does nobody out there know that we can already run windows apps? Imre See also coverage on OSNews (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15723) and Techworld (http://www.techworld.com/networking/news/index.cfm?newsID=6783pagtype=samechan). -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Are you always this positive? This is a time of celebration. Now is the time to bring FreeDOS into the 21st century. And to discover what FreeDOS can realy do today. If you have not been following recent events. There are already plans unfolding, and there are people who are indeed eager to know the future. Imre -Original Message- From: Aitor Santamar?a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 07:44 AM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news Well, the first feature of FreeDOS mentioned in Slashdot is LFN support... I hope it is not bringing much headaches ;-) Aitor 2006/9/5, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just in case anyone is interested in the press coverage this is getting: Heise Online was the first to post an article about us: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/77674 I also sent out something of a press announcement to a variety of news outlets, and I've contacted Slashdot/Newsforge for a followup article from the one they did about two months ago. But it seems someone else already submitted something to Slashdot, since they have an article about us now: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/04/2021234 See also coverage on OSNews (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15723) and Techworld (http://www.techworld.com/networking/news/index.cfm?newsID=6783pagtype=samechan). -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Adam Peart wrote: It also doesn't work under VMware. What ever detects the cpu thinks But it works for me with qemu 8.0.2 on Windows 2000. that the cpu is a 801586, and doesn't get corrected to 80386, so it Maybe that '801586' is the problem. Probably it should be '80586'?! I didn't find postinst.bat after my installations, so I can't reproduce the bug. Could anyone mail this file to me? Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
-Original Message- From: Jim Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 03:54 AM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news Just in case anyone is interested in the press coverage this is getting: Heise Online was the first to post an article about us: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/77674 I also sent out something of a press announcement to a variety of news outlets, and I've contacted Slashdot/Newsforge for a followup article from the one they did about two months ago. But it seems someone else already submitted something to Slashdot, since they have an article about us now: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/04/2021234 See also coverage on OSNews (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15723) and Techworld (http://www.techworld.com/networking/news/index.cfm?newsID=6783pagtype=samechan). They are wrong about reactos though. Building FreeDOS is WAY more difficult then building reactos. We had to defragment 80Gb on 8086 with 256 kb RAM. In reactos there is LOTS of memory and a very high code reuse. Imre -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:04, Robert Riebisch wrote: Adam Peart wrote: snip that the cpu is a 801586, and doesn't get corrected to 80386, so it Maybe that '801586' is the problem. Probably it should be '80586'?! There are no 801586 CPUs. It looks like something's trying to cover all bases - ie, 80186 - 80586, and failing miserably at it. Just my 0.02c. Wesley Paarish I didn't find postinst.bat after my installations, so I can't reproduce the bug. Could anyone mail this file to me? Robert Riebisch -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - Mau ki ana, he aha te mea nui? You ask, What is the most important thing? Maku ki ana, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, It is people, it is people, it is people. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
Wesley Parish wrote: Maybe that '801586' is the problem. Probably it should be '80586'?! There are no 801586 CPUs. It looks like something's trying to cover all bases - ie, 80186 - 80586, and failing miserably at it. Where did I say, that 801586 CPUs exist? Just my 0.02c. Sorry, but keep it. Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Hi Imre, nobody would complain if DEFRAG needed a 386 and XMS to do defragging on FAT32... Ever seen a FAT32 drive in a PC-XT...? And about Wine for DOS: Okay, with HXRT, you can even run some Windows programs in DOS, but if you have reasonably new hardware, you can equally well use ReactOS or Linux/Wine for that... DOS should rather be used for what DOS is good at :-). Eric They are wrong about reactos though. Building FreeDOS is WAY more difficult then building reactos. We had to defragment 80Gb on 8086 with 256 kb RAM. In reactos there is LOTS of memory and a very high code reuse. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Well i am still kind of im(/de)pressed that FreeDOS chkdsk has some 30 lines of code and that a chkdsk in reactos takes only about 100 lines. Imre -Original Message- From: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 12:56 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Hi Imre, nobody would complain if DEFRAG needed a 386 and XMS to do defragging on FAT32... Ever seen a FAT32 drive in a PC-XT...? And about Wine for DOS: Okay, with HXRT, you can even run some Windows programs in DOS, but if you have reasonably new hardware, you can equally well use ReactOS or Linux/Wine for that... DOS should rather be used for what DOS is good at :-). Eric They are wrong about reactos though. Building FreeDOS is WAY more difficult then building reactos. We had to defragment 80Gb on 8086 with 256 kb RAM. In reactos there is LOTS of memory and a very high code reuse. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Hoi Imre, you cannot do decent checking in 100 lines. dosfsck is 4600 lines long as well... And it checks for many aspects of filesystem consistency. Only 15pc of that are for the lowlevel disk access: dosfsck without DOS support is still 4000 lines long. Maybe the reactos chkdsk just ask the kernel for a flag value is the disk okay? ;-). Then most of the code would be in reactos itself instead. Eric PS: Why is chkdsk so very long? Okay there is caching and stuff, but 300k lines is really very long...?? Well i am still kind of im(/de)pressed that FreeDOS chkdsk has some 30 lines of code and that a chkdsk in reactos takes only about 100 lines. nobody would complain if DEFRAG needed a 386 and XMS to do defragging on FAT32... Ever seen a FAT32 drive in a PC-XT... - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Well all the FAT manipulation code is in ufat.dll. But this is shared by all the disk utilities. This is something we do not have. About the size it seems that I type a 0 too much: Global Summary (635 kB, actual: 490 kB) --- Number of lines of code:12529 Number of directive lines: 1055 Number of empty lines: 3723 Number of comment lines: 2927 Number of empty comment lines: 1496 --- Total number of lines: 21730 --- 167 file(s) processed. Imre -Original Message- From: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 02:32 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Hoi Imre, you cannot do decent checking in 100 lines. dosfsck is 4600 lines long as well... And it checks for many aspects of filesystem consistency. Only 15pc of that are for the lowlevel disk access: dosfsck without DOS support is still 4000 lines long. Maybe the reactos chkdsk just ask the kernel for a flag value is the disk okay? ;-). Then most of the code would be in reactos itself instead. Eric PS: Why is chkdsk so very long? Okay there is caching and stuff, but 300k lines is really very long...?? Well i am still kind of im(/de)pressed that FreeDOS chkdsk has some 30 lines of code and that a chkdsk in reactos takes only about 100 lines. nobody would complain if DEFRAG needed a 386 and XMS to do defragging on FAT32... Ever seen a FAT32 drive in a PC-XT... - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] The show must go on
Or at least the project. Here are the changes to defrag you can expect from me in the forseeable future. I will move it to openwatcom. This way it can be compiled for 386. This will probably double the speed, since everything is internally computed as 32bit. Anyway I believe that all of FreeDOS after version 1 should be compilable with openwatcom. I will add a new defragmentation method called quick try. This will be a fast method of defragmenting some files on FAT32. It will scan through the directories and for each file check wether it is fragmented. If it is it will move it to a space that is large enough to contain the complete file. If no space can be found it will move on to the next file. This will be a very fast method that will unfragment some files, especially if there is lots of free space left. Imre - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] The show must go on
I will move it to openwatcom. This way it can be compiled for 386. This will probably double the speed, since everything is internally computed as 32bit. Not if you will use the OW 16-bit compiler (WCC). Although it has a switch optimize for 386, the generated code will not use 32bit registers. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
I'll just send the relevant part of the file. snip for %%x in ( 4 5 6 ) do if %cputype%==80%%x86 set cputype=80386 /snip snip if %cputype%== set cputype=80386 goto s4_%cputype% :s4_80186 :s4_80286 :s4_80386 /snip When I change the top line to the following, it works fine. for %%x in ( 4 5 6 15 ) do if %cputype%==80%%x86 set cputype=80386 Robert Riebisch wrote: Wesley Parish wrote: Maybe that '801586' is the problem. Probably it should be '80586'?! There are no 801586 CPUs. It looks like something's trying to cover all bases - ie, 80186 - 80586, and failing miserably at it. Where did I say, that 801586 CPUs exist? Just my 0.02c. Sorry, but keep it. Robert Riebisch - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Surprise!
: There are no 801586 CPUs. It looks like something's trying to cover all bases : - ie, 80186 - 80586, and failing miserably at it. Pentium IVs report themselves as 801586s - see the Linux 2.2.18 announcement at http://lkml.org/lkml/2000/12/11/178: The major thrust has been support for processors running in excess of 2GHz, support for the CyrixIII processor and also basic support for the Pentium IV. Unfortunately Intel chose to ignore all precedent in model numbering via cpuid and report a family of '15'. This sudden jump broke assumptions in the kernel tree without any warning. My recollection, possibly faulty, is that Intel chose 801586 because Windows NT refused to boot on an 80886 (it only checked the bottom 3 bits of the family number and thought it was on an 8086). -- John Elliott - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Hi Imre, I am certainly glad and happy that FreeDOS 1.0 is out. My apologies for those (including you) that believe the contrary. But I am certainly aware that (and I agree with you) that we have and image problem, and that most people just trashes away a project at the first critical problem they find. And when the very FIRST feature that is mentioned about FreeDOS is cool one that we certainly do NOT have, then I'd say we have a problem, and that the image problem can get worse. Aitor 2006/9/5, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are you always this positive? This is a time of celebration. Now is the time to bring FreeDOS into the 21st century. And to discover what FreeDOS can realy do today. If you have not been following recent events. There are already plans unfolding, and there are people who are indeed eager to know the future. Imre -Original Message- From: Aitor Santamar?a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 07:44 AM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news Well, the first feature of FreeDOS mentioned in Slashdot is LFN support... I hope it is not bringing much headaches ;-) Aitor 2006/9/5, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just in case anyone is interested in the press coverage this is getting: Heise Online was the first to post an article about us: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/77674 I also sent out something of a press announcement to a variety of news outlets, and I've contacted Slashdot/Newsforge for a followup article from the one they did about two months ago. But it seems someone else already submitted something to Slashdot, since they have an article about us now: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/04/2021234 See also coverage on OSNews (http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15723) and Techworld (http://www.techworld.com/networking/news/index.cfm?newsID=6783pagtype=samechan). -jh -- This email message has been encrypted using the ROT-26 cipher. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Easy: just for going to the extreme, write a DOS API extension function that checks the drive passed as argument in BX. ;-) Anyway, I am of Eric's opinion: you cannot write a complete, good CHKDSK code in that few lines. Aitor 2006/9/5, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well i am still kind of im(/de)pressed that FreeDOS chkdsk has some 30 lines of code and that a chkdsk in reactos takes only about 100 lines. Imre -Original Message- From: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 12:56 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Hi Imre, nobody would complain if DEFRAG needed a 386 and XMS to do defragging on FAT32... Ever seen a FAT32 drive in a PC-XT...? And about Wine for DOS: Okay, with HXRT, you can even run some Windows programs in DOS, but if you have reasonably new hardware, you can equally well use ReactOS or Linux/Wine for that... DOS should rather be used for what DOS is good at :-). Eric They are wrong about reactos though. Building FreeDOS is WAY more difficult then building reactos. We had to defragment 80Gb on 8086 with 256 kb RAM. In reactos there is LOTS of memory and a very high code reuse. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] The show must go on
Of course, that could be changed in OW (if someone is willing to do the work). On 9/5/06, Japheth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will move it to openwatcom. This way it can be compiled for 386. This will probably double the speed, since everything is internally computed as 32bit. Not if you will use the OW 16-bit compiler (WCC). Although it has a switch optimize for 386, the generated code will not use 32bit registers. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS
Well, in the case of Windows, all of the work is part of the system dlls, so yes, in ReactOS, all a chkdsk needs to do is call those dlls, which doesn't take much code. On 9/5/06, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy: just for going to the extreme, write a DOS API extension function that checks the drive passed as argument in BX. ;-) Anyway, I am of Eric's opinion: you cannot write a complete, good CHKDSK code in that few lines. Aitor 2006/9/5, Imre Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well i am still kind of im(/de)pressed that FreeDOS chkdsk has some 30 lines of code and that a chkdsk in reactos takes only about 100 lines. Imre -Original Message- From: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2006 12:56 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Hi Imre, nobody would complain if DEFRAG needed a 386 and XMS to do defragging on FAT32... Ever seen a FAT32 drive in a PC-XT...? And about Wine for DOS: Okay, with HXRT, you can even run some Windows programs in DOS, but if you have reasonably new hardware, you can equally well use ReactOS or Linux/Wine for that... DOS should rather be used for what DOS is good at :-). Eric They are wrong about reactos though. Building FreeDOS is WAY more difficult then building reactos. We had to defragment 80Gb on 8086 with 256 kb RAM. In reactos there is LOTS of memory and a very high code reuse. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
