Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
On 1/23/2013 4:54 AM, Евгений Нежданов wrote: > Hi all. I want statistics about FreeDOS usage and general DOS usage of > the world. I have few programs written by me for the MS-DOS since many > years ago. This is a graphical library (written in the Turbo Pascal), > multiwindowed text editor (written in the Turbo Pascal), > object-oriented GUI making library in the Pascal, BASIC interpretter > (written in the Turbo Pascal and other written in the QBASIC). This is > all software are in the GNU GPL v3 license and in the scratched > (non-complete) state. I can be complete all of this software if > programming for the DOS platform is so far have a sense and required > by users. How more people in now use DOS in real daily life? Only the > DOS necromastrubators? :) I can be rewrite to FreeDOS favorite > language - C - my projects, such as universal graphical library > (supports all video modes from CGA 320x200 onto the VESA 3584x2488 > 32-bit color). Some advice: - Put your offerings on a web page or on an open source hosting site such as SourceForge or Google Code. In the year 2013 there is no excuse for not distributing your open source code in an open manner. - If your code is not complete you should make an effort to make sure that it is usable and somewhat documented so that others have a chance of picking up where you left off, or helping you finish the code. - Do not expect a lot of help - the number of people doing programming for DOS is very limited. And most of them already have their own special projects and interests. - Insulting your audience does not help. - You will not be able to get statistically valid input on who the potential users are. Do it for you, not for anybody else. If somebody else likes and appreciates your work that is the bonus. Mike -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
On 1/23/2013 11:42 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > Hi. teogum replied to your other email on this topic, but here's my > contribution. > > Today, FreeDOS is often used by three types of users: > > > 1. People who want to play old DOS games > 2. Developers, to run embedded systems > 3. Businesses, to run legacy DOS software I would add a fourth category to that - people who maintain old IBM compatible PC hardware for their hobby, which is usually vintage computing. If we split hairs too much there could be an infinite number of users, but I think that group is large enough to stand alone. I might also add a fifth group - people who need a minimal bootable system to apply BIOS or other firmware updates. We get a lot of requests on the mailing lists for people looking to put FreeDOS on USB sticks, and often it is for this purpose. > There aren't usage numbers for FreeDOS like you can get for Windows or > Mac, which typically equate to "numbers of licenses sold" or "number > of Macs sold". But I can tell you about how many times the FreeDOS > distribution was downloaded. I've been keeping track of downloads > since the FreeDOS 1.1 release in January 2012. > > We're seeing 40,000-42,000 downloads per month over the last few > months. Here are the number of downloads of the FreeDOS distribution > per month in 2012: > > > And so far in January 2013, we have had 22,991 downloads of FreeDOS > 1.1. By the end of January, that should be almost 31,000 just for > FreeDOS 1.1. > > > -jh > I am surprised that there are so many downloads. When you think about the number of copies of PC DOS and MS DOS copies floating around, that makes for a *large* number of DOS users. Most of which are probably occasional users, but still that is very impressive. Mike -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense
Great to hear that Jevgenij works on some new DOS software. It is always very welcome! (personaly for me is great that it is written in pascal because it is my favourite language which I know best) offtopic: I personaly sometimes work with dead bodies as I am medical doctor but I never masturbated with them. However on medical faculty I knew at least two persons which very probably did. -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Rugxulo Datum: 26. 1. 2013 Předmět: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS development sense "Hi, On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Евгений Нежданов wrote: > >> I think it's great that you have these programs (editor and BASIC >> interpreter) and are willing to share them under the GNU GPL. Where >> can people download these programs to try them out on FreeDOS? Do you >> have a website where you make these programs available to others? > > I does currently not have a website, I assume you can still use (if desired) something like Google Sites or SourceForge or Berlios or similar. > but I can complete these programs > and upload it's into the dropbox share folder for all for test case of > the FreeDOS users & developers for get vote for them and so add it's > into the ibiblio FreeDOS file hosting. Adding to iBiblio is a good idea (assuming licenses are open/free/libre). Just find a way to get it to Jim or me. (My main computer is still temporarily down, but I managed to restore my iBiblio access with old PuppyLinux key via VirtualBox VM. Tested with uploading latest minor NASM update, it works.) >> But I would ask that you not refer to DOS users as "DOS >> necromasturbators" as this is derogatory. > Please sorry me for this word. Heheh. I've never heard anyone say that before. Though someone did call me a necromancer a few years ago on FreeBASIC's forum due to my support of DOS. ;-) Lemme find the full quote: "j00 r nt teh necromanz0r!". I didn't understand at the time, but apparently a necromancer is a fictional thing (off-topic: Hexen2 backported to DJGPP ftw, hi Ozkan!) who is undead or revives the dead or something goofy like that. In essence, we're reviving a dead OS (in some peoples' eyes) by supporting FreeDOS. Though I question their sense of history in conveniently forgetting so quickly the impact DOS had (and still has). -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel";-- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
