Re: [Freedos-devel] Translations for LSM data files.
Finally I am ready translating it. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spacerace/snippets/master/freedos/list-de/LISTING.CSV Nils On 09/23/2018 01:09 PM, stecdose wrote: I got LibreOffice Calc configured properly I think. I have chosen >,< as seperator, >"< as text marking, and cp437 and language german (which should only affect spell checking). I am somewhere around line 120 from 300, hoped to have it ready by now, but will come soon. PS: First I tried on plain DOS with setedit - after 20 lines you'll see the colums in that screen-page of chars, but it is way more convinient to do it with a 1280px wide screen... It is also not that easy to find a editor that open more than ~64k, you'll have to try with a few editor, if you don't know which one supports it. And win2k notepad messes up the charset. Nils On 09/19/2018 02:14 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: On Sep 19, 2018, at 4:45 AM, stecdose wrote: I just have downloaded the csv-file and had a look at it. It isn't as big as I thought. I am going to translate the whole list to german. It will take a few days, I have some real-life work to do, but I think I am done translating this weekend. Greetings, Nils Stec Sounds great. I look forward to receiving it. Before you begin translating, insure the program you are using correctly parsed the CSV file. This is easy enough to do. Just scroll to the last column that has the SHA hashes and verify none have drifted. I have not seen this happen in the spreadsheet program I use. But, it was reported that a couple items drift when imported into LibreOffice. Thank you, Jerome ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Translations for LSM data files.
> On Sep 29, 2018, at 10:30 AM, stecdose wrote: > > Finally I am ready translating it. > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spacerace/snippets/master/freedos/list-de/LISTING.CSV > > Nils > Nice. At a quick glance, it looks great. Is it done? Or, do you need to do something else to it? Thanks, Jerome > >> On 09/23/2018 01:09 PM, stecdose wrote: >> >> I got LibreOffice Calc configured properly I think. I have chosen >,< as >> >> seperator, >"< as text marking, and cp437 and language german (which >> should only affect spell checking). >> >> I am somewhere around line 120 from 300, hoped to have it ready by now, >> but will come soon. >> >> >> PS: First I tried on plain DOS with setedit - after 20 lines you'll see >> the colums in that screen-page of chars, but it is way more convinient >> to do it with a 1280px wide screen... >> >> It is also not that easy to find a editor that open more than ~64k, >> you'll have to try with a few editor, if you don't know which one >> supports it. And win2k notepad messes up the charset. >> >> >> Nils >> >> >>> On 09/19/2018 02:14 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: >>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 4:45 AM, stecdose wrote: I just have downloaded the csv-file and had a look at it. It isn't as big as I thought. I am going to translate the whole list to german. It will take a few days, I have some real-life work to do, but I think I am done translating this weekend. Greetings, Nils Stec >>> Sounds great. I look forward to receiving it. >>> >>> Before you begin translating, insure the program you are using correctly >>> parsed the CSV file. This is easy enough to do. Just scroll to the last >>> column that has the SHA hashes and verify none have drifted. I have not >>> seen this happen in the spreadsheet program I use. But, it was reported >>> that a couple items drift when imported into LibreOffice. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Jerome >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Freedos-devel mailing list >>> Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel >> > > > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Translations for LSM data files.
It is done :) Nils On 09/29/2018 11:32 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: On Sep 29, 2018, at 10:30 AM, stecdose wrote: Finally I am ready translating it. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spacerace/snippets/master/freedos/list-de/LISTING.CSV Nils Nice. At a quick glance, it looks great. Is it done? Or, do you need to do something else to it? Thanks, Jerome On 09/23/2018 01:09 PM, stecdose wrote: I got LibreOffice Calc configured properly I think. I have chosen >,< as seperator, >"< as text marking, and cp437 and language german (which should only affect spell checking). I am somewhere around line 120 from 300, hoped to have it ready by now, but will come soon. PS: First I tried on plain DOS with setedit - after 20 lines you'll see the colums in that screen-page of chars, but it is way more convinient to do it with a 1280px wide screen... It is also not that easy to find a editor that open more than ~64k, you'll have to try with a few editor, if you don't know which one supports it. And win2k notepad messes up the charset. Nils On 09/19/2018 02:14 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: On Sep 19, 2018, at 4:45 AM, stecdose wrote: I just have downloaded the csv-file and had a look at it. It isn't as big as I thought. I am going to translate the whole list to german. It will take a few days, I have some real-life work to do, but I think I am done translating this weekend. Greetings, Nils Stec Sounds great. I look forward to receiving it. Before you begin translating, insure the program you are using correctly parsed the CSV file. This is easy enough to do. Just scroll to the last column that has the SHA hashes and verify none have drifted. I have not seen this happen in the spreadsheet program I use. But, it was reported that a couple items drift when imported into LibreOffice. Thank you, Jerome ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] UNIX fortune for DOS
Hi, I have just cleaned up a small project, collecting dust on my disk and I have prepared a lot of fortune files. For those of you, who do not know about fortune: This is small "game" that picks a random quote from a database of files and prints it. On unix systems it is usually used when people are logging in. Here it is (source, bin (only 8028bytes+database), cookie-database): https://github.com/spacerace/dos-fortune There is also a screenshot of 3 invocations. The database is almost 1MB in size and contains so many of these cookies... I still have to do documentation for db, where these files are origination from... I hope it is bug-free, at least as much it can be. If you like, add it to freedos distribution, but I am aware that it still needs some improvements. Maybe later, when bugs are fixed and improvements are done... If something is unclear, please respond :) Nils ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX fortune for DOS
Dear Nils, > If something is unclear, please respond :) this mailing list is about FreeDOS development. please stop spamming the list with your projects because you are bored. We are not. thanks. Tom ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX fortune for DOS
Hi, On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Tom Ehlert wrote: > > Dear Nils, > > > If something is unclear, please respond :) > > this mailing list is about FreeDOS development. > > please stop spamming the list with your projects because you are > bored. We are not. Tom, I am not aware of anybody else (Jim or Eric, for example) ever specifying that this mailing list (freedos-devel) is only for development of FreeDOS proper and not for development on or targeting FreeDOS. In other words, you're saying only development of the operating system itself should be discussed here, not third-party userland stuff?? Somehow I disagree, and again, if this is so bothersome to you, set a filter on your email client. There's already too few developers, and we don't need to discourage them just because someone else can't be bothered to ignore an email that clearly says what it's about in the subject. Granted, maybe if Jim agrees, you'd have half a point, and these discussions can be moved to freedos-user instead. Honestly, I don't see the difference, and I don't feel the extreme anguish that you feel at all these dozens of horribly inconvenient messages. I would prefer that some other important members (Bart or Jeremy) publicly agreed with you before we (accidentally?) scare off anybody who is actively trying to contribute. Again, it is not obvious to me that this particular mailing list is already (or must forcibly be) so narrow in focus. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX fortune for DOS
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Rugxulo wrote: Tom, I am not aware of anybody else (Jim or Eric, for example) ever specifying that this mailing list (freedos-devel) is only for development of FreeDOS proper and not for development on or targeting FreeDOS. In other words, you're saying only development of the operating system itself should be discussed here, not third-party userland stuff?? Somehow I disagree, and again, if this is so bothersome to you, set a filter on your email client. I would prefer that some other important members (Bart or Jeremy) publicly agreed with you before we (accidentally?) scare off anybody who is actively trying to contribute. Again, it is not obvious to me that this particular mailing list is already (or must forcibly be) so narrow in focus. For what it's worth, I actually agree with Tom here, not that I've actually given anything of real significance to the FreeDOS project (other than the single disk distro I did 15 years ago). -uso. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX fortune for DOS
Hi, On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 6:22 PM Steve Nickolas wrote: > > For what it's worth, I actually agree with Tom here, not that I've > actually given anything of real significance to the FreeDOS project (other > than the single disk distro I did 15 years ago). I almost also said "or Steve" because I do consider your opinion important. If Jim (and/or Eric) agrees, then the description of "freedos-devel" needs to be clarified. "Are you interested in writing programs for FreeDOS? Freedos-devel is for developers, developers, developers!" (Certainly that reference is to Ballmer and Windows, where development of the OS itself is off-limits except to certain MS employees. So the call for more developers there almost certainly means userland stuff. Granted, even then, Tom could prefer talking about bundled OS utils like "FIND" or "DEBUG" rather than third-party stuff like "FORTUNE".) Because it was far from obvious, to me, that this list was ever meant to be so narrow in focus. To me, "development" is for everything involving code, compilers, etc. (as long as indirectly related to DOS, of course). It's not like we have that many posters, so I don't know why Tom is so overwhelmed! ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX fortune for DOS
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Rugxulo wrote: I almost also said "or Steve" because I do consider your opinion important. Well, there's a reason I don't do much more than lurk. A few years ago - after I'd made any semi-important contributions - I started digging into MS-DOS to see how it worked. Needless to say, that's why I no longer even try to help with base, which is what I feel is the most essential part of the OS. (This is also how I know as much as I do about the history of MS-DOS - and can say what fits the "3.31" baseline, the "5.0" baseline, the "6.22" baseline and the "7.1" baseline.) I've stuck around for probably close to 20 years now, but there's really not much I can do other than provide opinions or research data. Still, this can come in handy now and then, so I'll post once in a while if I feel I have something to offer. -uso. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX fortune for DOS
Hello Rugxulo, In other words, you're saying only development of the operating system itself should be discussed here, not third-party userland stuff?? Somehow I disagree, and again, if this is so bothersome to you, set a filter on your email client. There's already too few developers, and we don't need to discourage them just because someone else can't be bothered to ignore an email that clearly says what it's about in the subject. Personally, I do not see why a "fortune" program for DOS can never be considered part of FreeDOS, unlike, say, text editors. But that is just my opinion. Hello Mr. Nils, I hope it is bug-free, at least as much it can be. If you like, add it to freedos distribution, but I am aware that it still needs some improvements. Maybe later, when bugs are fixed and improvements are done... I tried compiling your "fortune" code with my fork of IA-16 GCC, and it did uncover some issues with the code (GCC generally does have better error reporting than BCC). I will try to upload some fixes for these soon. Thank you! -- https://github.com/tkchia ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
