Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!
Big thanks! <-Original Message-> >From: Bernd Blaauw >Sent: 10/8/2005 2:19:38 AM >To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me! > >Arkady V.Belousov schreef: >> fv> But what we grief - I was can't ukrainize FreeCOM to check my translation. >> >> Unfortunately, I can't help you in this, because never recompile >> FreeCOM and don't known with its structure. >> >get file >http://fdos.org/AutoIndex/index?dir=kernel/=cmd8086.HEAD.ENGLISH.zip >get file http://fdos.org/ripcord/beta9sr1/other/cmd084x.zip > >from the first file, extract the 40KB .bin file (command.bin) and >criters.bin (1KB or so) >from the 2nd file, extract fixstrs.exe, default.lng >place all files into a single directory. >Now, add the Ukrain.lng file > >What you'll need to do is: >-create strings.dat >-append criters.bin and strings.dat to command.bin > >@echo off >fixstrs.exe ukrain.lng >copy /b command.bin + criters.bin _ strings.dat command.com > >I guess I should update the cmd084x.zip file next Monday or so. >www.fdos.org/kernel contains various automated builds of FreeCOM. > >Bernd > > > >--- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: >Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, >and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl >___ >Freedos-devel mailing list >Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel >. > ___ICQ - You get the message, anywhere!Get it @ http://www.icq.com
Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!
Hi there, Arkady V.Belousov escribió: 7-Окт-2005 15:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: HP From: Freewolle Voluntar Because we in public group, I translate our discussion. fv Me was asked to translate FreeCOM messages to ukrainian and I do this. fv Translation is correct. ... To see ukrainian characters in FreeDOS, next fv commands shold be performed: HP DISPLAY.EXE CON=(EGA,,1) HP MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX) HP MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125 HP KEYB UR,1125,UR.KL -^^--^^ Strange name for layout - isn't Ukraine shortened as UA? This one goes to Henrique :) fv And I can't switch back from ukrainian to latin mode (after switching by fv Left Alt+Right Shift). I download Keyb (with sources) and study them, but, fv unfortunately, don't clear up this question. This question to Aitor Santamaria_Merino (aitor.sm at wanadoo.es), author of KEYB. I am in process of getting rid of the wanadoo address. Please use aitorsm at inicia.es instead, thanks! Regarding the question itself, whichever key combination has been used to go back depends on the layout itself, so this goes back to Henrique too :) (unless KEYB is not doing as it should). Incidentally, I think I have fixed the infamous DEL key problem, I am just working on other minor bugs that I have introduced with the library support, and when it's ready we'll have another version. Aitor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!
Hi! 7-Окт-2005 10:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Freewolle Voluntar) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: FV X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 FV Text for Arkady Belousov: FV #1047;#1076;#1088;#1072;#1089;#1090;#1074;#1091;#1081;#1090;#1077;, I can't read such text. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!
Hi again, Zdravstvuyte, (my russian won't go much further - I'm glad you typed in russian, because my knowledge on ukrainian is just about the alphabet and a few expressions) I understood that you're ukrainian and you're used to KEYUKR.COM, which I just found on the web and I'll try it here to see the differences between the support that I provided - which was based on Windows XP and IBM OS/2, since I didn't have access to a localized version of MS-DOS which assisted the ukrainian language - and the support provided by that third-party solution, KEYUKR. I'll also compare the character table used with KEYUKR with the official IBM-DOS codepage 1125. I also understood that KEYUKR uses Left_Alt + Right_Shift to switch to the latin layout - sowe're not talking about ukrainian MS-DOS KEYB. Anyway, ifKEYUKR is (or was) much more used on Ukraine than ukrainian MS-DOS (or ifthere was never an ukrainian MS-DOS at all), please let me know. Thanks, Henrique Peron - Original Message - From: Freewolle Voluntar To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me! Text for Arkady Belousov:Здраствуйте, уважаемый Аркадий Белоусов! Меня попросили перевести на украинский язык (так как я - украинец ;-) ) сообщения FreeCOM, что я успешно и сделал. Перевод адекватный - это я гарантирую. При переводе я пользовался программой keyukr.com, но для отображения украинских символов в FreeDOS вполне достаточно имманентных средств этой системы. Чтобы адеква #1090;но видеть украинские символы и работать с украинизованным FreeCOM, нужно выполнить команды:DISPLAY.EXE CON=(EGA,,1)MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX)MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125KEYB UR,1125,UR.KLпосле чего украинские символы корректно отображаются на экране. Единственное, что меня удручает, так это то, что я не смог (не удалось) украинизировать FreeCOM, чтоб полюбова ться своим переводом в реале. Также я обнаружил весьма досадную проблему - переключиться на ввод украинских символов, используя FreeDOS Keyb, возможно, лишь нажав на Left Alt + Right Shift, но пере ключиться обратно на ввод латинских символов уже нет никакой возможности. Я скачивал пакеты Keyb (компилированный и исходники) и просматривал их в надежде найти возмож ность что-то поменять к лучшему, но, к большому сожалению, порывшись в дебрях исходников, я так и не разобрался, что и где нужно конкретно изменить, чтоюы Keyb работал как поl 3;ожено. Кроме того, на некоторых кливишах некорректно отображается украинская раскладка - например, нет возможности ввести украинскую "Ґ", "Є", "Ї", "І". Помогите мне, чтобы мо# 1078;но было работать с украинским языком в FreeDOS с использованием иманентных для него средств. ___ICQ - You get the message, anywhere!Get it @ http://www.icq.com
Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!
Hi! 7-Окт-2005 15:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: HP From: Freewolle Voluntar Because we in public group, I translate our discussion. fv Me was asked to translate FreeCOM messages to ukrainian and I do this. fv Translation is correct. ... To see ukrainian characters in FreeDOS, next fv commands shold be performed: HP DISPLAY.EXE CON=(EGA,,1) HP MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX) HP MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125 HP KEYB UR,1125,UR.KL -^^--^^ Strange name for layout - isn't Ukraine shortened as UA? fv But what we grief - I was can't ukrainize FreeCOM to check my translation. Unfortunately, I can't help you in this, because never recompile FreeCOM and don't known with its structure. fv And I can't switch back from ukrainian to latin mode (after switching by fv Left Alt+Right Shift). I download Keyb (with sources) and study them, but, fv unfortunately, don't clear up this question. This question to Aitor Santamaria_Merino (aitor.sm at wanadoo.es), author of KEYB. fv Also, on some keys incorrectly showed ukrainian layout - for example, fv there are not possible to enter ukrainian ?, ?, ?, ?. And this question to Henrique Peron (see address above), author of layouts for KEYB. Also, don't forget to present characters in hex-mode, to prevent their wrong recoding. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!
Hi all, Arkady, this is a matter of layout, so this is for me to solve. :-) UR is how Microsoft operating systems address the ukrainian keyboards. UA is how the IBM operating systems do that. So, I prepared the ukrainian layouts to accept both UA and UR. Freewolle, I have posted here some messages regarding your problem but it seems you didn't receive or read them yet. Once again I suggest you to try switching to the latin layout through Left_Alt + Left_Shift. In relation to your keyboard: you used to run KEYUKR and, even though I found it on the web, I tried it here and I wasn't able to use it accordingly. I couldn't switch to the cyrillic layout. I prepared the ukrainian layouts according to the mappings that I found on Microsoft and IBM websites, so I based myself on the major industry and not on KEYUKR (which I didn't even know to exist until now). Please provide me a TXT file or an image file of your keyboard (since it seems there are two distinct ukrainian kyeboards) and I will be able to help you. One thing I can tell for sure: I tested the ukrainian layouts that I prepared and they both displayed those 4 extra ukrainian letters. Thanks, Henrique (hperon at terra.com.br) - Original Message - From: Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me! Hi! 7-Окт-2005 15:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: HP From: Freewolle Voluntar Because we in public group, I translate our discussion. fv Me was asked to translate FreeCOM messages to ukrainian and I do this. fv Translation is correct. ... To see ukrainian characters in FreeDOS, next fv commands shold be performed: HP DISPLAY.EXE CON=(EGA,,1) HP MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX) HP MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125 HP KEYB UR,1125,UR.KL -^^--^^ Strange name for layout - isn't Ukraine shortened as UA? fv But what we grief - I was can't ukrainize FreeCOM to check my translation. Unfortunately, I can't help you in this, because never recompile FreeCOM and don't known with its structure. fv And I can't switch back from ukrainian to latin mode (after switching by fv Left Alt+Right Shift). I download Keyb (with sources) and study them, but, fv unfortunately, don't clear up this question. This question to Aitor Santamaria_Merino (aitor.sm at wanadoo.es), author of KEYB. fv Also, on some keys incorrectly showed ukrainian layout - for example, fv there are not possible to enter ukrainian ?, ?, ?, ?. And this question to Henrique Peron (see address above), author of layouts for KEYB. Also, don't forget to present characters in hex-mode, to prevent their wrong recoding. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
