Re: [Freedos-devel] I would like to contribute (a bit)

2006-11-15 Thread Joris van Rantwijk
Hello Edouard,

On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 09:33:41PM +0100, Edouard Forler wrote:
 Well, huh, I've got one and, better than that, I still develop some 
 software on it and for it. Yes, it runs at 4.77 MHz and has only 640 Ko 
 of RAM, with a 20 Mb hard drive and 51/4 floppies (oh, I also do have a 
 P4-3GHz, don't worry).

FreeDOS can run on this kind of hardware, but it takes some effort to
collect suitable versions of the kernel and system tools. I did this
for FreeDOS 1.0, and created a set of PC-compatible boot floppies with
just the minimal DOS tools. You may want to try these floppies as a
starting point.

My floppies can be found at:
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~rjoris/freedos.html

Bye,
  Joris.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] I would like to contribute (a bit)

2006-11-15 Thread edouard

 FreeDOS can run on this kind of hardware, but it takes some effort to
 collect suitable versions of the kernel and system tools. I did this
 for FreeDOS 1.0, and created a set of PC-compatible boot floppies with
 just the minimal DOS tools. You may want to try these floppies as a
 starting point.

Hello,

Thank you very much. Of course, I had suspected that the image I've used
to boot on my PC had been compiled for more recent CPUs. But I could not
find any suitable image. Up to now. As a matter of fact, I wanted to
create such a distro.

However, I still got some problems that are worth mentionning. Creating a
bootable 51/4 floppy prooved near to impossible as the FORMAT command in
FreeDOS didn't recognize my drive on my P4. When booting from the CD, I
could apparently not access it because the 31/2 floppy becomes the B:
drive and then C: is the hard disk (which is probably correct in fact).

So I booted from a 31/2 floppy, but then I could read and write files on
existing (MS-)DOS formatted 51/4 floppies, but not format : I always get
an error stating Invalid drive B: and [Error 61] (if I remember well).
I tried with various parameters including /F and /4 (my drive is a 1.2Mb
one).

I ended up using the SYS command on an MS-DOS formatted disk.

Also, hitting ctrl-alt-delete leads to various crashes (hung computer,
kernel fatal error, or erratic msg display, it depends) on my P4 but never
to a reboot, do you know something about this ?

And just FMI, could you explain me why the behaviour at boot is different
on my P4 and on the XT : the first chars displayed are FreeDOS on my P4,
whereas I got a ..123 (crash) on the XT.

I will try again and keep you posted.

Thanks,
Edouard.


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Re: [Freedos-devel] I would like to contribute (a bit)

2006-11-15 Thread Bernd Blaauw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
 So I booted from a 31/2 floppy, but then I could read and write files on
 existing (MS-)DOS formatted 51/4 floppies, but not format : I always get
 an error stating Invalid drive B: and [Error 61] (if I remember well).
 I tried with various parameters including /F and /4 (my drive is a 1.2Mb
 one).
   
Here you'll have to try using various DOS kernels and FORMAT programs, 
I'd recommend:
* MS-DOS 6.00 kernel + MS-DOS format
* MS-DOS 6.00 kernel + FD FORMAT
* FreeDOS kernel (fat16 one, behaves as ms-dos 6.00 I think in 
dos-version) + MS-DOS FORMAT
* FreeDOS kernel + FD FORMAT
 I ended up using the SYS command on an MS-DOS formatted disk.

 Also, hitting ctrl-alt-delete leads to various crashes (hung computer,
 kernel fatal error, or erratic msg display, it depends) on my P4 but never
 to a reboot, do you know something about this ?
   
With just kernel and FreeCOM loaded, or also applications like FDAPM?
 And just FMI, could you explain me why the behaviour at boot is different
 on my P4 and on the XT : the first chars displayed are FreeDOS on my P4,
   
 whereas I got a ..123 (crash) on the XT.
   
There exist various versions of our SYS program, and on FreeDOS 1.0.0 
we've delivered an older less experimental version.
That's why the bootsector is different.
 I will try again and keep you posted.

 Thanks,
 Edouard.
   
I hope the floppy set will work, seems there's still some work on 
FreeDOS to be done but nobody knows where to begin :)

Bernd


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Re: [Freedos-devel] I would like to contribute (a bit)

2006-11-14 Thread Blair Campbell
Did you use the 8086 version of FreeCOM?  And the 8086 version of the kernel?

On 11/14/06, Edouard Forler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 First of all, let me congratulate all of you for all the work done on
 FreeDOS. It's great. I've just subscribed to the devel mailing list
 because I would like to contribute, well, as a matter of fact I will not
 be able to contribute much but I can offer my help with the testing and
 debugging. I'm a senior software engineer with more than 15 years of
 programming experience on PCs, however I don't have much time for
 programming now, sadly. I'm 32 and live in Geneva, Switzerland.

 I decided to say hello because of a FAQ saying that FreeDOS can run on
 an XT, but (quote) I don't know for a fact that anyone has booted it on
 an XT for quite a while ... if only because no one probably has one
 anymore.

 Well, huh, I've got one and, better than that, I still develop some
 software on it and for it. Yes, it runs at 4.77 MHz and has only 640 Ko
 of RAM, with a 20 Mb hard drive and 51/4 floppies (oh, I also do have a
 P4-3GHz, don't worry).

 So this evening, I decided to try and boot FreeDOS 1.0 on my old friend.
 And I ran into many troubles, the bottom line being that it did not even
 boot. I would like to share my experience as well as having your feeling
 about it. I am ready to contribute to Bugzilla and test as much as
 needed if this helps to improve FreeDOS. However, as mentioned above, I
 don't have the time to have a look at the code and contribute more
 deeply, which I regret.

 As I don't want to interfere, please let me know if you are interested
 in this rather funny and enjoyable experiment (even if it failed) :-)

 Cheers,
 Edouard.

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