Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
ok, doing it now. On 5/22/07, Bart Oldeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/16/07, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't seen any replies in this thread that argue Subversion is a bad idea, but let's make this a FINAL CALL before we go ahead. If no one speaks up by this time tomorrow, I think Bart gets the go-ahead to convert the FreeDOS CVS to Subversion on SourceForge. When did you plan to do the conversion? This weekend, I assume? Well, right now the CVS stable kernel is updated with both Eric's and Tom's changes (at least those that were made public) so this looks like a good point. I uploaded a (14MB) svndump.bz2 file to /home/groups/f/fr/freedos/htdocs/kernel/svndump.bz2 on shell.sourceforge.net, but someone else (Aitor, Eric, Jeremy, or Jim) will need to follow the instructions at http://sourceforge.net/docs/E09#import as I don't have permissions to do that. To be specific: mv /home/groups/f/fr/freedos/htdocs/kernel/svndump.bz2 /home/groups/f/fr/freedos/svndump.bz2 and then start at Import from Subversion dump file (svnadmin dump or cvs2svn): #6. Bart - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
On 5/16/07, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't seen any replies in this thread that argue Subversion is a bad idea, but let's make this a FINAL CALL before we go ahead. If no one speaks up by this time tomorrow, I think Bart gets the go-ahead to convert the FreeDOS CVS to Subversion on SourceForge. When did you plan to do the conversion? This weekend, I assume? Well, right now the CVS stable kernel is updated with both Eric's and Tom's changes (at least those that were made public) so this looks like a good point. I uploaded a (14MB) svndump.bz2 file to /home/groups/f/fr/freedos/htdocs/kernel/svndump.bz2 on shell.sourceforge.net, but someone else (Aitor, Eric, Jeremy, or Jim) will need to follow the instructions at http://sourceforge.net/docs/E09#import as I don't have permissions to do that. To be specific: mv /home/groups/f/fr/freedos/htdocs/kernel/svndump.bz2 /home/groups/f/fr/freedos/svndump.bz2 and then start at Import from Subversion dump file (svnadmin dump or cvs2svn): #6. Bart - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
Hi, is CVS really used at the moment? I thought, that most people have sent patches to current maintainer. Bye Flo On 5/16/07, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't seen any replies in this thread that argue Subversion is a bad idea, but let's make this a FINAL CALL before we go ahead. If no one speaks up by this time tomorrow, I think Bart gets the go-ahead to convert the FreeDOS CVS to Subversion on SourceForge. When did you plan to do the conversion? This weekend, I assume? (I'll want to be sure to make note of it on the web site.) -jh On 5/15/07, Bart Oldeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/15/07, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no objection to SVN, but I haven't edited any sources in a while so maybe I'm not a good person to chime in. :-) If we do decide to migrate to Subversion, we should use the SVN repository on SourceForge (it's not activated yet, but it's there to be used.) This helps to keep all FreeDOS-related resources in one place. yes, of course, that's the idea. Also, to have the directories structured like this: root \kernel\trunk \branches\UNSTABLE \jhall \tags\ \freecom\trunk \... \install\... \mem\... instead of the default you'd get from cvs2svn that looks like this: root \trunk\kernel \freecom \... \branches\UNSTABLE \jhall \jimtabor \expExec \... \tags\com083beta7 \ke2035a \... The problem is that in this default layout all branches are lumped together without you always knowing if it's freecom or kernel without looking inside well, I can provide a dump file if it gets the go ahead. Bart - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- It is true that no one can essentially cultivate exact science without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but a part of mathematics. (James Clerk Maxwell) Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
PS: A DOS version of CVS exists...of Subversion too? -- It is true that no one can essentially cultivate exact science without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but a part of mathematics. (James Clerk Maxwell) Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Bart Oldeman wrote: Hi, would people here support a conversion of the FreeDOS CVS repository (kernel, freecom, install, mem) to Subversion (SVN)? One big plus is that CRLF problems would be mostly a thing of the past... what has happened a lot is that people check out CVS files on *nix, get LF line endings, correct them to CRLF, check them back in, people on Windows check them out, see CRCRLF nonsense line ending, correct them, check them back in, and the game continues. Or files in .zip files get the wrong line endings, etc. With Subversion, you can specify a CRLF line ending for all text files so these things won't happen. I've used Subversion for a while with DOSEMU and it works well. I must say (from private mail) that Eric would rather stay with CVS because of unfamiliarity with SVN and the fact that the working directories take up twice the space (ie. 4MB instead of 2 for the kernel for instance). The extra space comes from the caching of the repository contents locally, which has its advantages too because an svn diff or svn revert does not need to contact the server. Another thing that may annoy some is that there exists no SVN client for DOS. On the other hand, there exists no network aware CVS client either... so I don't think anyone has ever checked out CVS sources from SF on DOS. Thus this is more of a theoretical issue. What do others think? I'd be happy to do the conversion myself. Bart I never really figured out cvs but I think I got the hang of svn pretty well. If it would fix problems with the current system, without introducing much of its own - and that seems to be the case from what little I know of it - I say go for it (n/m that my initials are ALSO SVN)... -uso. --- There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: Soap, Ballot, Jury, Ammo. Use in that order, starting now. -- Attr. to Ed Howdershelt - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
I have no objection to SVN, but I haven't edited any sources in a while so maybe I'm not a good person to chime in. :-) If we do decide to migrate to Subversion, we should use the SVN repository on SourceForge (it's not activated yet, but it's there to be used.) This helps to keep all FreeDOS-related resources in one place. -jh On 5/15/07, Lyrical Nanoha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007, Bart Oldeman wrote: Hi, would people here support a conversion of the FreeDOS CVS repository (kernel, freecom, install, mem) to Subversion (SVN)? One big plus is that CRLF problems would be mostly a thing of the past... what has happened a lot is that people check out CVS files on *nix, get LF line endings, correct them to CRLF, check them back in, people on Windows check them out, see CRCRLF nonsense line ending, correct them, check them back in, and the game continues. Or files in .zip files get the wrong line endings, etc. With Subversion, you can specify a CRLF line ending for all text files so these things won't happen. I've used Subversion for a while with DOSEMU and it works well. I must say (from private mail) that Eric would rather stay with CVS because of unfamiliarity with SVN and the fact that the working directories take up twice the space (ie. 4MB instead of 2 for the kernel for instance). The extra space comes from the caching of the repository contents locally, which has its advantages too because an svn diff or svn revert does not need to contact the server. Another thing that may annoy some is that there exists no SVN client for DOS. On the other hand, there exists no network aware CVS client either... so I don't think anyone has ever checked out CVS sources from SF on DOS. Thus this is more of a theoretical issue. What do others think? I'd be happy to do the conversion myself. Bart I never really figured out cvs but I think I got the hang of svn pretty well. If it would fix problems with the current system, without introducing much of its own - and that seems to be the case from what little I know of it - I say go for it (n/m that my initials are ALSO SVN)... -uso. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
I'm just curious, as I have never used much of cvs and none of SVN (just MS Sourcesafe, pvcs and other commercial solutions), what would be the main advantages of SVN to CVS? (in other words, why would you care to make such a big effort? probably there are many good reasons, then). Aitor 2007/5/15, Bart Oldeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, would people here support a conversion of the FreeDOS CVS repository (kernel, freecom, install, mem) to Subversion (SVN)? One big plus is that CRLF problems would be mostly a thing of the past... what has happened a lot is that people check out CVS files on *nix, get LF line endings, correct them to CRLF, check them back in, people on Windows check them out, see CRCRLF nonsense line ending, correct them, check them back in, and the game continues. Or files in .zip files get the wrong line endings, etc. With Subversion, you can specify a CRLF line ending for all text files so these things won't happen. I've used Subversion for a while with DOSEMU and it works well. I must say (from private mail) that Eric would rather stay with CVS because of unfamiliarity with SVN and the fact that the working directories take up twice the space (ie. 4MB instead of 2 for the kernel for instance). The extra space comes from the caching of the repository contents locally, which has its advantages too because an svn diff or svn revert does not need to contact the server. Another thing that may annoy some is that there exists no SVN client for DOS. On the other hand, there exists no network aware CVS client either... so I don't think anyone has ever checked out CVS sources from SF on DOS. Thus this is more of a theoretical issue. What do others think? I'd be happy to do the conversion myself. Bart - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
On 5/15/07, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious, as I have never used much of cvs and none of SVN (just MS Sourcesafe, pvcs and other commercial solutions), what would be the main advantages of SVN to CVS? Losing the line-ending annoyance for one... there are other advantages though, like off-line diffing, status and revert commands (in CVS you need to do rm file; cvs up file to revert). There is a revision number after each commit so it is straight forward to do a binary search between commits in case there is a regression. And so on. (in other words, why would you care to make such a big effort? well if it was a really big effort I wouldn't put it up. But it isn't. There are automated conversion tools, and for people who understand basic CVS, SVN is very easy to learn (basic usage is similar, it was designed to be a better CVS). Bart - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Subversion instead of CVS?
On 5/15/07, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no objection to SVN, but I haven't edited any sources in a while so maybe I'm not a good person to chime in. :-) If we do decide to migrate to Subversion, we should use the SVN repository on SourceForge (it's not activated yet, but it's there to be used.) This helps to keep all FreeDOS-related resources in one place. yes, of course, that's the idea. Also, to have the directories structured like this: root \kernel\trunk \branches\UNSTABLE \jhall \tags\ \freecom\trunk \... \install\... \mem\... instead of the default you'd get from cvs2svn that looks like this: root \trunk\kernel \freecom \... \branches\UNSTABLE \jhall \jimtabor \expExec \... \tags\com083beta7 \ke2035a \... The problem is that in this default layout all branches are lumped together without you always knowing if it's freecom or kernel without looking inside well, I can provide a dump file if it gets the go ahead. Bart - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
