Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

what do you mean with long names for program items? oZone supports LFN 
(long file names), so there should be no problem :-)

bye
  Flo

John Hupp wrote:
> I couldn't tell from the screen shots or descriptions if the oZone desktop 
> currently supports creating long names for program items.  I would like the 
> program manager to display "Flight Of The Amazon Queen", for instance, and 
> not just FOTAQ.
> 
> --JDH
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Florian Xaver
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions
> 
> 
> John Hupp wrote:
>> I'm looking for opinions on DOS GUI's.  I'm familiar with still-developing
>> OpenGEM, but I am especially interested in any freeware/open source GUI's
>> that provide for long names for program items (like MS-DOS DOSSHELL but 
>> with
>> a more modern look).  Also your judgment of the GUI's file manager,
>> stability and resource consumption.  Task switching is nice, especially if
>> stable, but that's a secondary concern.
> 
> A very cool GUI is oZone ;-)) It includes a file manager (navigator)
> and is a "modern" GUI with Skin support. Feedback is welcome everytime ;-)
> 
>> An off-hand related thought: Is anyone using Arachne as a primary GUI?  If
>> so, the same kinds of questions apply about its shell support.
> 
> I am using as HTML/Help viewer in DOS. The GUI is very good for a
> browser, but not so good for a general GUI.
> 
> Bye

-- 
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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions

[John Hupp]

Yes, I see that I need to clarify.  This is for a pure FreeDOS system. 
FreeDOS does not have native support for LFN, correct?  I could perhaps run 
a LFN driver, but I don't know how much native support FreeDOS has for LFN. 
If you do some FreeDOS operation on a file that the LFN driver has named 
(move, copy, xcopy, chkdsk), will it strip the LFN?  Or worst case, mess up 
the file/directory structure trying to interpret what the LFN driver has 
done?

The approach that MS-DOS DOSSHELL takes is to offer long Program Item names 
or descriptions that display in the Program Manager, but the underlying DOS 
file is untouched.  The long name is maintained only in DOSSHELL.INI.

The DOSSHELL approach is fine for my purposes at the moment, but I'd like to 
see a more graphical-looking interface.

So that was my question about oZone.  When you say that oZone supports LFN, 
do you mean the Win32 long file name implementation?

--John Hupp

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From: Florian Xaver
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions


Hi,

what do you mean with long names for program items? oZone supports LFN
(long file names), so there should be no problem :-)

bye
  Flo

John Hupp wrote:
> I couldn't tell from the screen shots or descriptions if the oZone desktop
> currently supports creating long names for program items.  I would like 
> the
> program manager to display "Flight Of The Amazon Queen", for instance, and
> not just FOTAQ.
>
> --JDH
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Florian Xaver
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions
>
>
> John Hupp wrote:
>> I'm looking for opinions on DOS GUI's.  I'm familiar with 
>> still-developing
>> OpenGEM, but I am especially interested in any freeware/open source GUI's
>> that provide for long names for program items (like MS-DOS DOSSHELL but
>> with
>> a more modern look).  Also your judgment of the GUI's file manager,
>> stability and resource consumption.  Task switching is nice, especially 
>> if
>> stable, but that's a secondary concern.
>
> A very cool GUI is oZone ;-)) It includes a file manager (navigator)
> and is a "modern" GUI with Skin support. Feedback is welcome everytime ;-)
>
>> An off-hand related thought: Is anyone using Arachne as a primary GUI? 
>> If
>> so, the same kinds of questions apply about its shell support.
>
> I am using as HTML/Help viewer in DOS. The GUI is very good for a
> browser, but not so good for a general GUI.
>
> Bye

-- 
Florian Xaver 

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SWORD-a nice GUI library for DOS/DJGPP










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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

ok - I see I have to update my website :-)

I am using FreeDOS and Enhanced Dr-DOS with DOSLFN, a very good LFN 
driver for DOS (I mean Win32 long file name implementation!). oZone is a 
DJGPP program, so it uses LFN if a LFN driver is present. Else it uses 
short file names (not tested by me, but I think it will make some 
problems (but it should be configurable to use only short file names).

I don't see any reason, why you wouldn't want to use the LFN driver. And 
then you can work without problems... copy, rename, move etc. inside of 
oZone! It includes a navigator, which is like the "explorer" of Windows.
The test version at my page hasn't a sorted (by name, size etc.) file 
list and directory tree, the next version will have a sorted list, so 
oZone should be really useable as a file manager.

Sorry for my bad English...

bye
  flo

PS: a mouse driver like CTMOUSE needs to be installed!



John Hupp wrote:
> Yes, I see that I need to clarify.  This is for a pure FreeDOS system. 
> FreeDOS does not have native support for LFN, correct?  I could perhaps run 
> a LFN driver, but I don't know how much native support FreeDOS has for LFN. 
> If you do some FreeDOS operation on a file that the LFN driver has named 
> (move, copy, xcopy, chkdsk), will it strip the LFN?  Or worst case, mess up 
> the file/directory structure trying to interpret what the LFN driver has 
> done?
> 
> The approach that MS-DOS DOSSHELL takes is to offer long Program Item names 
> or descriptions that display in the Program Manager, but the underlying DOS 
> file is untouched.  The long name is maintained only in DOSSHELL.INI.
> 
> The DOSSHELL approach is fine for my purposes at the moment, but I'd like to 
> see a more graphical-looking interface.
> 
> So that was my question about oZone.  When you say that oZone supports LFN, 
> do you mean the Win32 long file name implementation?
> 
> --John Hupp
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Florian Xaver
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> what do you mean with long names for program items? oZone supports LFN
> (long file names), so there should be no problem :-)
> 
> bye
>   Flo
> 
> John Hupp wrote:
>> I couldn't tell from the screen shots or descriptions if the oZone desktop
>> currently supports creating long names for program items.  I would like 
>> the
>> program manager to display "Flight Of The Amazon Queen", for instance, and
>> not just FOTAQ.
>>
>> --JDH
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Florian Xaver
>> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS GUI opinions
>>
>>
>> John Hupp wrote:
>>> I'm looking for opinions on DOS GUI's.  I'm familiar with 
>>> still-developing
>>> OpenGEM, but I am especially interested in any freeware/open source GUI's
>>> that provide for long names for program items (like MS-DOS DOSSHELL but
>>> with
>>> a more modern look).  Also your judgment of the GUI's file manager,
>>> stability and resource consumption.  Task switching is nice, especially 
>>> if
>>> stable, but that's a secondary concern.
>> A very cool GUI is oZone ;-)) It includes a file manager (navigator)
>> and is a "modern" GUI with Skin support. Feedback is welcome everytime ;-)
>>
>>> An off-hand related thought: Is anyone using Arachne as a primary GUI? 
>>> If
>>> so, the same kinds of questions apply about its shell support.
>> I am using as HTML/Help viewer in DOS. The GUI is very good for a
>> browser, but not so good for a general GUI.
>>
>> Bye
> 

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SWORD-a nice GUI library for DOS/DJGPP










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Re: [Freedos-user] SYS A: C:

[Gerry Hickman]

Hi Jeremy,

> Based on your other message and this one; I never got around to writing 
> the FAT32 boot sector, so at the moment MS/PC DOS are only supported by 
> FD sys for FAT12 and FAT16 hence your problems.

OK, I guess I could use a FAT16 partition instead; if I do this, is 
there some way to install the DOS 6.22 boot sector to C: without 
actually inserting a floppy? e.g. read the saved boot sector from somewhere?

-- 
Gerry Hickman (London UK)


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[Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order

[BA HCL]

Hello,

It is painful to read mails in random order!
Can the mails be sent according to GMT order?
Is there a way to recieve threaded mails from the lists I subscribed?
And can I select not to receive mail at all, but  the mailing lists still 
accessible?

Perhaps there are ways to do it but I don't know, enlighten me please.


BAHCL

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