Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated...
Those are more likely ISOLinux issues, and most users will probably not be using PART (which seems to interpret ISOLinux somehow as a virus, which would somewhat seem like a PART bug to me at least). On 8/21/06, Arkady V.Belousov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > 21-Авг-2006 14:07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: > > >>sn> Editorial comment: > >>sn>Obviously, some of these results are not ideal. > >> What you want from FreeDOS in given case? > sn>What do *I* want? Nothing. I'm just testing the release CD and > sn> reporting the results. > sn>I will ask this question: If FreeDOS is released as is, and users > sn> start seeing these msgs on their PCs, will they know that the problem > sn> is *not* caused by FreeDOS? > > So, you think, current menu tree is worse? I think, then you should try > to draft own tree, which (you think) is better, and offer it for review for > Blair. Sorry, I can't give further advices and help in this case, because > all other depends from Blair. > > - > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] corrupted directory sector from using SMARTDRV 6.22 with FreeDOS?
At 02:50 PM 8/21/2006 -0600, Eddie wrote: >I was really hoping that this problem had been silently fixed by >all of the other work that has been done recently. Doesn't look VDS-related, the executable only uses a couple of common calls there. Not much more I can tell you. Maybe the original LFN conjecture of a problem. If you can duplicate a problem at will, you could try without EMM386 loaded to make VM86 isn't getting in the way along the way, but doesn't sound like it. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] corrupted directory sector from using SMARTDRV 6.22 with FreeDOS?
At 02:50 PM 8/21/2006 -0600, Eddie wrote: > I was really hoping that this problem had been silently fixed by >all of the other work that has been done recently. I was disappointed >when the same problem cropped up again - because that means more work. > >So far I haven't done the work to isolate the problem to a >repeatable failure. But I figured that I should send up a red flag >so that the rest of you could be watching for the problem. Well, if you want to e-mail a copy of your SMARTDRV and the options you're using, I'll take at least a quick look at what internal calls it might be making, see if anything jumps out and bites my nose. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
At 09:37 AM 8/21/2006 +0200, Norbert Remmel wrote: >During testing I discovered a bug concerning STR-ALT-DEL usage. >When pressing these keys, freedos crashes with invalid opcode outputting >some memory addresses and registers. Eric made a change suggestion which seems to clear up the problem with FDAPM and some options and the default NOALTBOOT of EMM386. If we're lucky, it will clear up your Ctrl-Alt-Del problem, too, otherwise you may need to use the ALTBOOT option. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Bad or non existant command interpreter
Hi! 21-Авг-2006 21:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Monahan) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: CM> I've installed FreeDOS on the first 250MB partition of my hard drive, it CM> works in dosemu, CM> and I can run Free COM in Windows CM> but when I try to boot to it from LILO it passes over to the kernel (I CM> think) CM> and tells me : CM> "Bad or non existant command interpreter CM> enter full command path" CM> and all I can do is press the enter button to get it to say it CM> again. Looks like there is kernel version, which wrongly assigns drive letters (ie. as I understand, should work something like entering "a:\command.com"), when there is no floppy drive present. Try to update to latest kernel.sys. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated...
Hi! 21-Авг-2006 14:07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: >>sn> Editorial comment: >>sn>Obviously, some of these results are not ideal. >> What you want from FreeDOS in given case? sn>What do *I* want? Nothing. I'm just testing the release CD and sn> reporting the results. sn>I will ask this question: If FreeDOS is released as is, and users sn> start seeing these msgs on their PCs, will they know that the problem sn> is *not* caused by FreeDOS? So, you think, current menu tree is worse? I think, then you should try to draft own tree, which (you think) is better, and offer it for review for Blair. Sorry, I can't give further advices and help in this case, because all other depends from Blair. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated...
Arkady V.Belousov wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: >sn> h) Boot from first harddisk (0x80) >sn> I fell into this because of the timeout. The next two lines on the >sn> screen are: >sn> Booting from local disk... >sn> Virus!!! > > This may be message from BIOS (if there is turned on option "Check BOOT >Viruses", then it monitors writing to MBR). The BIOS's warning msg is different. I saw the BIOS's msg too - later when using Fdisk. IIRC, the exact text "Virus!!!" is in the PART 2.37 MBR code (in its "compact boot manager"). As I reported, it doesn't seem to hurt anything; it just looks bad. >sn> q) Skip CD-Rom boot (try next boot device) >sn> NO ROM BASIC >sn> SYSTEM HALTED > > This is not FreeDOS. I know. >sn> Obviously this isn't an IBM PC. FWIW SBM's "Quit to BIOS" option >sn> gets this result too. > > Of course. This is original IBM BIOS architecture - when there are no >bootable media, BIOS pass control to INT19, where in original BIOSes was >reside built-in BASIC interpreter. But this BASIC very long ago not included >into BIOSes, and message says about this. I know. >sn> Editorial comment: >sn>Obviously, some of these results are not ideal. > > What you want from FreeDOS in given case? What do *I* want? Nothing. I'm just testing the release CD and reporting the results. I will ask this question: If FreeDOS is released as is, and users start seeing these msgs on their PCs, will they know that the problem is *not* caused by FreeDOS? -Eddie - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] corrupted directory sector from using SMARTDRV 6.22 with FreeDOS?
Aitor Santamar?a wrote: >2006/8/21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> This problem occurs when using SMARTDRV.EXE (with write caching >> enabled) from MSDOS 6.22 with FreeDOS. Replacing either avoids the >> problem. > >Well, thanks indeed for the reports, perhaps you could tell us too if >you're using EMM386/HIMEM (or give your AUTOEXEC/CONFIG). Except for the config files, that's in my original report. The config files are slightly modified versions of the ones created by the 8/19 fdbasecd.iso CD. I replaced the kernel, himem, and emm386 (that that 8/19 fdbasecd installed) with the updated ones (from 8/20). >For the regular user, this is an extra advice to use LBACACHE instead >of SMARTDRV :) That may be the solution. Does LBACACHE do write caching now? Michael Devore wrote: >At 05:15 AM 8/21/2006 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>This problem occurs when using SMARTDRV.EXE (with write caching >>enabled) from MSDOS 6.22 with FreeDOS. Replacing either avoids the >>problem. > > >SMARTDRV is pretty particular on some machines. I just pulled the >following from the Microsoft site, it sound relevant to the issue. Let us >know the results. > >Double Buffering and Bus Masters >Certain disk controllers support a concept called bus mastering. This is Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into this possibility. FWIW this PC *does* have 3 VESA slots. I don't know if they could support a busmastering IDE controller or not. But that may be irrelevant - because the multi-IO/IDE board that is connected to the PC's hdd is in a ordinary 16-bit ISA slot (which AFAIK does *not* support that sort of thing). I was really hoping that this problem had been silently fixed by all of the other work that has been done recently. I was disappointed when the same problem cropped up again - because that means more work. So far I haven't done the work to isolate the problem to a repeatable failure. But I figured that I should send up a red flag so that the rest of you could be watching for the problem. -Eddie - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Bad or non existant command interpreter
hey - I hear this is the place I've installed FreeDOS on the first 250MB partition of my hard drive, it works in dosemu, and I can run Free COM in Windowsbut when I try to boot to it from LILO it passes over to the kernel (I think) and tells me :"Bad or non existant command interpreterenter full command path"and all I can do is press the enter button to get it to say it again.I have a HP Pavillion zv6100 512 MB (384 system+ 128 MB video) RAMAMD Sempron 540 Mhz also to note that when I installed I invoked SYS manually in safe mode - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
At 09:37 AM 8/21/2006 +0200, Norbert Remmel wrote: >During testing I discovered a bug concerning STR-ALT-DEL usage. >When pressing these keys, freedos crashes with invalid opcode outputting >some memory addresses and registers. >As I remember this wasn't like this using earlier versions of >himem/emm386 but I didn't test so far. Okay, here's where we have a fundamental conflict. It's also causing problems with FDAPM and WARMBOOT options, perhaps other FDAPM options. It is the difference between ALTBOOT and NOALTBOOT options in EMM386. ALTBOOT was the default prior to 2.25 for a while, and NOALTBOOT is the new default, and was the original default when EMM386 was first written up to an unknown version. The problem is that EMM386 no longer hooks and processes the keyboard keys by default to try and force a proper reboot through direct keyboard port access. It leaves things to the default ROM/BIOS reboot code. The keyboard hook happens when ALTBOOT option is active. Some environments and applications can have the machine state set so that a normal ROM/BIOS reboot doesn't work, which is why there is such a thing as ALTBOOT. Unfortunately, a lot of things fail to work, or fail to work correctly if ALTBOOT is active, which is why it was changed to not the default setting in 2.25. Here's a breakdown of the pros and cons: ALTBOOT active positives: All FDAPM options related to rebooting and power-off should work. Some applications may not properly reboot when you press Ctrl-Alt-Del if ALTBOOT is not present. ALTBOOT active negatives: Qemu has an almost unusable keyboard due to frequent loss of status keys, plus missing and doubled keys. VMware is reported to have keyboard or other failure. Ensemble with GEOS will simply lockup during start if ALTBOOT is active -- GEOS doesn't like things hooking and messing with the keyboard interrupt. There are reports from other users that there are additional applications which do not like the keyboard hooked and (pre-)processed this way, but I don't know the exact applications. So here's where we're at: I can either make some environments work properly (or at all) by leaving ALTBOOT as optional as in version 2.25. That means those who are having problems with FDAPM or Ctrl-Alt-Del need to specify ALTBOOT as an option with EMM386. OR, I can switch ALTBOOT back as the default, and Qemu, VMware, and Ensemble users will have to know to specify the option to make their machines work properly. It's not an easy decision, but personally, I think we're better off getting people booted up and running properly as a default (NOALTBOOT), and then telling them if they have problems with FDAPM or Ctrl-Alt-Del to specify ALTBOOT as an EMM386 option. But maybe I'm wrong, if someone can convince me otherwise. Obviously the best solution would be for everything to work under one option, but I don't see that happening unless someone can come up with a good workaround really soon (I wouldn't count on this, but it could happen). Even MS-DOS EMM386 does not use its own ALTBOOT by default, but warns that it may be necessary or desirable for some environments. [technical follow-ups to freedos-devel] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] corrupted directory sector from using SMARTDRV 6.22 with FreeDOS?
At 05:15 AM 8/21/2006 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This problem occurs when using SMARTDRV.EXE (with write caching >enabled) from MSDOS 6.22 with FreeDOS. Replacing either avoids the >problem. SMARTDRV is pretty particular on some machines. I just pulled the following from the Microsoft site, it sound relevant to the issue. Let us know the results. Double Buffering and Bus Masters Certain disk controllers support a concept called bus mastering. This is where the actual disk controller takes over the bus in order to transfer data to or from system RAM. Some SCSI controllers have this feature. A problem occurs when running in the virtual 8086 mode that Windows 3.0 and 3.1 virtual machines provide. Memory managers such as QEMM and EMM386.EXE also use virtual 8086 mode. The read or write address that is passed to MS-DOS is often not the same as the actual physical memory address. This can cause data to be read from the wrong location or cause data to be written to the wrong address, which in turn can cause erratic system behavior, general protection faults, and the system to stop responding (hang). Microsoft created a standard called Virtual DMA Services, which provides an interface that allows these bus-master controllers to get the correct address and avoid the problems mentioned above. However, some older bus- master controller cards do not support this standard. To allow SMARTDrive to work with these older bus mastering cards, a feature has been added to SMARTDrive that provides a memory buffer that has the same physical and virtual addresses. This avoids the system instability problem at the cost of 2.5K of conventional memory and a small amount of performance (the cost of moving the data to and from the buffer.) To use this feature, place the following line in the CONFIG.SYS file: DEVICE=SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER+ NOTE: This line does not install the cache, only the double-buffer driver; the cache must be installed in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file. Most disk controllers do not need double buffering. This includes all MFM, RLL, and IDE controllers as well as many ESDI and SCSI devices. The Windows 3.1 Setup program will not install the double buffer driver in most cases. In the cases where Setup is unable to determine if double buffering is needed or not, it will install the driver based on the reasoning that it is better to error on the side of safety. A feature has been added to SMARTDrive to help determine if double buffering is unneeded and allow removal of the driver. Once the system is running with SMARTDrive loaded, type "SMARTDRV" (without quotation marks) at the MS-DOS command prompt. The following will appear: Copyright 1991,1992 Microsoft Corp. Cache size: 1,048,576 bytes Cache size while running Windows: 1,048,576 bytes Disk Caching Status drive read cache write cache buffering A: yes no no B: yes no no C: yes yes yes D: yes yes - Microsoft SMARTDrive Disk Cache version 4.00 For help, type "Smartdrv /?". NOTE: The double buffer driver must be loaded for SMARTDrive to determine if there is a need for buffering. If the double buffer driver is not loaded, all entries in the buffering column read "no." To determine if double buffering is required, look at the column labeled buffering. For each drive that is being cached, it can have one of three values: yes, no, or -. "Yes" indicates that double buffering is needed and being performed; "no" indicates that buffering is not needed. "-" indicates that SMARTDrive has not yet determined the necessity of double buffering.If the buffering column has all "no" entries in it, the double buffer driver is unneeded and can be safely removed from the CONFIG.SYS file. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
At 06:50 PM 8/21/2006 +0200, Norbert Remmel wrote: > You should also be prepared to send/sponsor this network card to > >>> I really would like to do but my boss would cut my head off if I would > > AT> That's just another way to solve the problem :D > > AT> SCNR ;) > > > > What is SCNR? > >Don't know either. >But he is right... Cutting my head off would really solve the problem. :-) > >BTW. Who will go on developping himem/emm386? >Is it really true Michael is stopping his memory management application >for freedos? :-( Well, first of all it isn't my application, it has many other hands in it, at least some of them still active. Second, I've finished up the feature set I'm interested in and am tired of working on it. That's the kiss of death for programming progress, since the maintainer needs to keep active and interested for success. (The gap appears to be getting filled, so that may be excellent news). Third, the last 2.x version of EMM386 is quite stable for most tested environments I know of, although I know your's is still having problems. I try to never leave people who depend on my work hanging. So even if I'm off list soon, if you continue to have problems with EMM386 that I can help with and -- the big if -- if I can duplicate the problem, I'll see what I can do about fixing it and e-mailing the fixes back to a few of the people here. Someone will have to take over integrating the revisions for public consumption, but that too, I think can be handled by people here without too much stress and complexity. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
You should also be prepared to send/sponsor this network card to >>> I really would like to do but my boss would cut my head off if I would > AT> That's just another way to solve the problem :D > AT> SCNR ;) > > What is SCNR? Don't know either. But he is right... Cutting my head off would really solve the problem. :-) BTW. Who will go on developping himem/emm386? Is it really true Michael is stopping his memory management application for freedos? :-( Unbelievable! Norbert. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
Hi! 21-Авг-2006 18:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Tertling) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: >>> You should also be prepared to send/sponsor this network card to >> I really would like to do but my boss would cut my head off if I would AT> That's just another way to solve the problem :D AT> SCNR ;) What is SCNR? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
Norbert Remmel schrieb: >> You should also be prepared to send/sponsor this network card to >> Michael > > I really would like to do but my boss would cut my head off if I would > do so as you surely can imagine ;-) That's just another way to solve the problem :D SCNR ;) Best regards, Andre - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] corrupted directory sector from using SMARTDRV 6.22 with FreeDOS?
Hi Eddie, 2006/8/21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This problem occurs when using SMARTDRV.EXE (with write caching > enabled) from MSDOS 6.22 with FreeDOS. Replacing either avoids the > problem. Well, thanks indeed for the reports, perhaps you could tell us too if you're using EMM386/HIMEM (or give your AUTOEXEC/CONFIG). For the regular user, this is an extra advice to use LBACACHE instead of SMARTDRV :) Aitor - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
Hi all, But there are still some systems, where the machine completely stops responding when initializing the network. >>> some network clients don't work if loaded into UMB memory; they also >>> don't work with MSDOS emm386 > >> The network client isn't loaded high at all. >> And if you use umbpci everything works fine on all machines in our network. >> So, there must be some functionality in emm386 that is this different >> compared to umbpci that some machines do not like. >> And that is why I would like to send this bootdisk to Michael to examine >> what is wrong. > this is in my experience network card related. No, it isn't. It must also be bios related, since e.g. a 3COM 905B/C PCI Adapter works on one machine while on another it does not. > You should also be prepared to send/sponsor this network card to > Michael I really would like to do but my boss would cut my head off if I would do so as you surely can imagine ;-) Norbert. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated 08/19/2006
Hi! 19-Авг-2006 21:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: sn> h) Boot from first harddisk (0x80) sn> I fell into this because of the timeout. The next two lines on the sn> screen are: sn> Booting from local disk... sn> Virus!!! This may be message from BIOS (if there is turned on option "Check BOOT Viruses", then it monitors writing to MBR). sn> q) Skip CD-Rom boot (try next boot device) sn> NO ROM BASIC sn> SYSTEM HALTED This is not FreeDOS. sn> Obviously this isn't an IBM PC. FWIW SBM's "Quit to BIOS" option sn> gets this result too. Of course. This is original IBM BIOS architecture - when there are no bootable media, BIOS pass control to INT19, where in original BIOSes was reside built-in BASIC interpreter. But this BASIC very long ago not included into BIOSes, and message says about this. sn> Editorial comment: sn>Obviously, some of these results are not ideal. What you want from FreeDOS in given case? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
Hello Norbert, >>> But there are still some systems, where the machine completely stops >>> responding when initializing the network. >> some network clients don't work if loaded into UMB memory; they also >> don't work with MSDOS emm386 > The network client isn't loaded high at all. > And if you use umbpci everything works fine on all machines in our network. > So, there must be some functionality in emm386 that is this different > compared to umbpci that some machines do not like. > And that is why I would like to send this bootdisk to Michael to examine > what is wrong. this is in my experience network card related. what card are you using ? You should also be prepared to send/sponsor this network card to Michael Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards, Tom Ehlert +49-241-79886 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] corrupted directory sector from using SMARTDRV 6.22 with FreeDOS?
This problem occurs when using SMARTDRV.EXE (with write caching enabled) from MSDOS 6.22 with FreeDOS. Replacing either avoids the problem. I haven't pinned it down yet but the problem seems to occur with more than just one pgm. I've seen it when installing UKA17X2 (i.e. UKA_PPP), A189GPLL (Arachne 1.89), and when extracting ARJ archives containing several dozen files (particularly if they contain subdirectories). The common thread seems to be that these pgms all create multiple sectors worth of subdirectory entries relatively quickly. At some point when all those directory entries are being written, one of the subdirectory sectors (never the first sector of the directory) gets garbage written to it. Yet the sectors before and after that one contain normal directory entries. I'd seen this symptom with B9SR2 too but didn't bother tracking it down. This time I was using the 2037 kernel that Blair uploaded yesterday and the 2.25/3.25 EMM386/HIMEM that Michael uploaded yesterday. Removing SMARTDRV prevents the problem. Maybe disabling write-caching would too but I haven't tested that. But in looking at the garbage directory sectors today, I get the feeling that this has something to do with LFN support. But that's only a guess and it may be completely wrong. Sorry I can't pin it down better than that right now. If I do later, I'll post more. -Eddie - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
>> But there are still some systems, where the machine completely stops >> responding when initializing the network. > some network clients don't work if loaded into UMB memory; they also > don't work with MSDOS emm386 The network client isn't loaded high at all. And if you use umbpci everything works fine on all machines in our network. So, there must be some functionality in emm386 that is this different compared to umbpci that some machines do not like. And that is why I would like to send this bootdisk to Michael to examine what is wrong. >> So, for your testing I applied for a fully functional test version of >> Symantec Ghost 7.5 corporate edition and got the license key for 30 days >> test case on Friday. I hope I will manage to apply this license to the >> ghost.exe today to give you a copy of my ghost network bootdisk. > Just wondering: does Symantec Ghost 7.5 corporate edition really come > with a freedos bootdisk ? Symantec Ghost itself does not come with a freedos bootdisk. Original pcdos is used by symantec. Because pcdos and msdos kernels and applications are too big for a floppy I use freedos for this which fits on one dmf2 floppy including network client and ghost. And I think Michael will do the last steps to make it run with his memory management instead of umbpci which does not work on two of our machines due to an unrecognized chipset. Norbert. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
Hello Norbert, > But there are still some systems, where the machine completely stops > responding when initializing the network. some network clients don't work if loaded into UMB memory; they also don't work with MSDOS emm386 > So, for your testing I applied for a fully functional test version of > Symantec Ghost 7.5 corporate edition and got the license key for 30 days > test case on Friday. I hope I will manage to apply this license to the > ghost.exe today to give you a copy of my ghost network bootdisk. Just wondering: does Symantec Ghost 7.5 corporate edition really come with a freedos bootdisk ? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
Hi again, > Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/ are the files > emmx225.zip, EMM386 2.25 and HIMEM version 3.25 memory manager, mostly > executable files; and emms225.zip, source code files. Michael, thanks a lot for the new himem/emm386. I tested this latest version this morning together with the latest kernel-version from Eric. On some systems things are fine as they weren't before. Even on the machine (P3 600 with 3COM905B) the network client is fully functional. But there are still some systems, where the machine completely stops responding when initializing the network. So, for your testing I applied for a fully functional test version of Symantec Ghost 7.5 corporate edition and got the license key for 30 days test case on Friday. I hope I will manage to apply this license to the ghost.exe today to give you a copy of my ghost network bootdisk. Perhaps this will help to find out why things are like this. During testing I discovered a bug concerning STR-ALT-DEL usage. When pressing these keys, freedos crashes with invalid opcode outputting some memory addresses and registers. As I remember this wasn't like this using earlier versions of himem/emm386 but I didn't test so far. Don't hesitate to ask me for the bios files if you need them. Norbert. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
