[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 install howto and known problems

2006-09-25 Thread Eric Auer

Hi all,

I created an initial version of a FreeDOS 1.0 install
howto, including a list of known problems and workarounds.
The text is partially based on the FreeDOS beta install
howto. Because the SF Wiki can be slow, I created a static
copy on my homepage:

http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/FdDocEn-FdInstall.html
(still interesting: 14k of Wiki text make a whole 31k of HTML)

The editable Wiki page can be found at:

http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall


I recommend to announce changes on the list or at least email
me about them, so I can update my static copy accordingly.
Layout fixes and sectioning improvements are welcome, too.

The static copy can also be added to our download area on
ibiblio or on freedos.org - as long as it is hard to miss
the page, any place will do :-).


Please check both the install instructions and the known bugs
list. If you have a second PC to test on, do a real install
and add your experiences to the "Installing on a PC" section.

As I cannot install and edit the Wiki at the same time, I just
described everything before and after you boot the install
cdrom and work with it (partitioning, formatting, boot menu),
but not the install cdrom workings themselves. However, they
are pretty self-explanatory, driven by interactive menus, so
in my opinion you still can get started with the incomplete
"Installing on a PC" descriptions already :-).

Thanks, and enjoy :-)

Eric

PS: If there are any post-1.0 updates to packages, those
should be listed on this page as well, and there should
be a directory "updates" in the ibiblio download area :-)

PPS: I suggest to continue the discussion on freedos-user,
not on freedos-devel. For those who are only on -devel, I
send a copy of this first mail to that list as well.


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[Freedos-user] new artworks to print on your freedos cdrom label and box

2006-09-25 Thread Eric Auer

Hi all, John Valdez updated his
FreeDOS cdrom label artwork collection,
thanks a lot for that :-)

You can get the 361 kilobyte ZIP file from his page
(until his bandwidth is exhausted, I hope we can put
up a mirror in our download area... ;-)) which is:

   http://www.geocities.com/jvaldeztoo/FreeDOS/Downloads/FDLS.htm

The file contains 3 JPEGs, which you can also download separately:


FDfront - for the front cover of your crystal case.
Features our big blue fish :-). 60 kB small. Text:

FreeDOS Operating System / come to feel free www.freedos.org /
INTERNET COMMUNITY / Harnessing the power of Open Source Version 1.0 Final


CDlabel - you can print that one on the cdrom itself or on a
sticker for the cdrom, if you have the right equipment... Text:

Support the FreeDOS Project by kindly sharing this software with
everyone in your community / FreeDOS Operating System / WWW.FREEDOS.ORG /
VERSION 1.0 / FINAL / For Distribution with any PC compatible / New or
legacy / free of charge / PC COMPATIBLE / come to feel free /
www.freedos.org / CD KEY: NOT REQUIRED / Fully bootable CDROM /
INTERNET COMMUNITY / FreeDOS is a Trademark of Jim Hall and is an
open source project


FDback - apart from some text which you will already have guessed,
this file features screenshots of DEFRAG, HELP and EDIT, as well
as quite some amount of text about FreeDOS 1.0 :-).

FreeDOS aims to be a complete, free, 100% MS-DOS compatible
operating system that serves and promotes the freeware DOS
community.
If you are like a lot of people you have a load of stuff in
your closet - stuff like old DOS games, spreadsheets and a few
other programs that used to serve you well until command line
lost the battle to the graphical interface of Windows(tm). But
those old DOS programs are still useable with FreeDOS. Save
your money and avoid chasing that mouse pointer on the screen.
Linux users can enjoy the tools of FreeDOS using DOSEmu. So
find some space on your FAT partition or get that old 486 from
the attic and start having fun with FreeDOS...
Use powerful tools like FreeDOS Edit 0.7d and Defrag to
enhance and empower your PC to get the job done.
Enjoy LFN support, easy multi-boot with Windows 9x-2003/NT/ME/XP,
FAT32 File system and large disk support (LBA), Media player
(MPXPLAY) for mp3, ogg, wmv..., supports AC97 and SB16, for
graphics Print screenshots in ESC/P, HP PCL or PostScript mode,
Cutemouse driver w/ scroll wheel support, disk support includes
SHSUCDX (replaces MSCDEX) and XCDROM (cdrom driver) and XDMA, a
UDMA driver for DOS - allows up to 4 hard disks!


This text is not perfect, as you can see, but already very
nice :-). I suggest to put a copy of the artworks into our
FreeDOS 1.0 download area and maybe update it with one with
even more finetuned text at some later moment :-).

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] FD installer

2006-09-25 Thread tekno1911
is using the adaptec 1542 scsi bios int 13.. it support cdrom booting it say 
couldnt load from drive 82h i believe. i dont remember the whole errror i got 
from it.

--chris
http://www.aotksc.com/
 

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FD installer
> From: Marti van Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, September 25, 2006 10:00 am
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
> Dear Chris,
> 
> Probably your BIOS does not support booting from CD-ROM, you will have 
> to write the floppy disk boot image to a floppy disk using Rawrite for 
> DOS, Rawritewin or dd if you are using a Linux/BSD hosted system and 
> boot your 486dx2 from that floppy disk.
> 
> I installed FreeDOS 1.0 full on a Pentium 133 Mhz with Phoenix BIOS. It 
> does not support booting form CD-ROM ether (because the BIOS frimware is 
> too outdated). Even if your BIOS settings menu provides the option to 
> boot from CD-ROM, this does not meant that it will actually work.
> 
> The boot floppy disk is your friend ;)
> 
> - Marti
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> > What computers does it work on with out locking up? 
> >
> > 486dx2 80mhz scsi2 and ide 16mb ram 500mb ide partition (80gb eide)
> >
> > It lock up when attempted to boot the install cd from external scsi cdrom.
> >
> > hris
> > http://www.aotksc.com/
> >   
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Re: [Freedos-user] FD installer

2006-09-25 Thread Marti van Lin
Dear Chris,

Probably your BIOS does not support booting from CD-ROM, you will have 
to write the floppy disk boot image to a floppy disk using Rawrite for 
DOS, Rawritewin or dd if you are using a Linux/BSD hosted system and 
boot your 486dx2 from that floppy disk.

I installed FreeDOS 1.0 full on a Pentium 133 Mhz with Phoenix BIOS. It 
does not support booting form CD-ROM ether (because the BIOS frimware is 
too outdated). Even if your BIOS settings menu provides the option to 
boot from CD-ROM, this does not meant that it will actually work.

The boot floppy disk is your friend ;)

- Marti

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> What computers does it work on with out locking up? 
>
> 486dx2 80mhz scsi2 and ide 16mb ram 500mb ide partition (80gb eide)
>
> It lock up when attempted to boot the install cd from external scsi cdrom.
>
> hris
> http://www.aotksc.com/
>   
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|0|0|0| http://www.uitwisselplatform.nl/projects/freemultios

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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS PR question - what LOOKS fancy in DOS?

2006-09-25 Thread John Hupp
I don't mind at all.  A few contributions through this list are the least I 
can do for the free use of a great operating system like FreeDOS.

--John Hupp

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hall
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS PR question - what LOOKS fancy in DOS?


John Hupp wrote:
> My interest to date in FreeDOS has been as part of a software bundle that 
> I
> can put on older computers without Windows licenses (and sell them off on
> eBay).
>
> eBay still has the last auction I did on its servers at
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=24916192
>
> I include lots of screen shots, mostly of games.


Hi John,

Eric gathered up all your screenshots, and emailed them to me, asking
that I post them somewhere on the web site.  Actually, it's not a bad
idea.  I hope you don't mind, but I've posted them at
http://www.freedos.org/news/screenshots/

Technically, SourceForge REALLY REALLY discourages posting screenshots
in the web content area for project websites, as they tend to be
abused.  So, I'll probably automatically & silently remove these from
the web site after a few months.  In the meantime, these are good to
share with people for some good PR for what you can run (graphically) on
FreeDOS.


-jh


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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on VM ?

2006-09-25 Thread Gordon . Schumacher
"Marcel E. Tschudin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/23/2006
20:07:20 +0300:

# 1) Which of the two VMs would be preferable for this application.

I've personally had better luck with VMware, though VPC works okay.
VPC is probably slightly more intuitive to use if you've never
worked with a VM setup before (but neither is too difficult).  VPC
has a (to me) massively annoying bug which causes the keyboard to
sometimes stop working in the VM if you have locked the host
computer's screen.  Neither of them has built-in drive sharing for
DOS, so you'll have to set up network support à la LanMan to get to
your host computer's drives.


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[Freedos-user] FD installer

2006-09-25 Thread tekno1911
What computers does it work on with out locking up? 

486dx2 80mhz scsi2 and ide 16mb ram 500mb ide partition (80gb eide)

It lock up when attempted to boot the install cd from external scsi cdrom.

--chris
http://www.aotksc.com/




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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on VM ?

2006-09-25 Thread Marcel Tschudin
... in the mean time I found how at least to access the Floppy Drive with FD on the VM. There would be a more convenient way by using a Virtual Floppy Drive, like this one
http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html#betabut I haven't yet managed to access it from FD on the VM; but this may be just because of my limited knowledge as a newbie in this field. Has any one of you already tried this?
I also have the impression that I need to improve the configuration of FD on the VM. At the moment VM boots always from the iso-file (which is device A:\) and not from the root directory  (which is X:\). This means that each time the VM is started the FD options have to be selected:
- Continue to boot from CD-ROM- Install to Hard Disk- Select Language- Run FreeDOS from CD-ROMIs it possible that FD boots and runs automatically within the VM, i.e. without using the CD-ROM and setting each time these options?
Further, why can't I create a new directory in FD? I think having tried all possible permutations of the md or mkdir command, but it want accept it. Trying to open "help" as indicated in the readme file results in an error where the VM has to shut down. Do those of you who have FD also running on VMware these problems? Or, what might I have done wrong?
Thank you for your help.Marcel
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