[Freedos-user] FreeDOS localisation project
Hi all! It has been a long time that the "poor translation management" was bothering me. There is no easy way to know what needs to be translated, and what is already translated but not shipped with the package for whatever reason. I worked a moment today on a new project: The FreeDOS localisation project: http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/fdlang/ I think that such centralized translation point could greatly improve FreeDOS translations, as people would know exactly what has to be translated, where to check wheter any translations for a given program has been made, and where to send any self-made translations. Don't hesitate to send me any translations you have, which aren't listed on my website! Best regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FDUPDATE crash
> What is an fnode? What does a message that more than 2 near fnodes > are opened mean? The fnodes are a special data structure used inside the FreeDOS kernel. The F apparently stands for file, because the fnode contains information about an accessed file. Early versions of the kernel used to manage all file accesses with fnodes, but recent versions provide the same System File Tables (SFTs) as MS-DOS for compatibility (the FILES= setting in [FD]CONFIG.SYS determines the amount of available SFTs). However the fnodes weren't removed, they're still used for all file accesses, translating the MS-DOS-like tables to fnodes when a file is accessed. To save memory, only two fnodes are available. If something goes wrong, and the kernel tries to access three files at the same time, then the "more than 2 fnodes requested" error shows up, halting the system. This however doesn't reveal to me what exactly caused this mess, you may ask some of the FreeDOS kernel developers what it _could_ be. Regards, Christian -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FDUPDATE crash
> I'm not certain about what is crashing. Changing to curl makes no > difference at all. This works on my Pentium 4, so I suspect there is > something specific to my 486 that is causing the problem. I wish the > crash message was more descriptive. A dump of the processor's registers > and more than 2 near fnodes does not tell me what crashed. Did > command.com crash? Was there an invalid memory reference because I > need to exclude a certain region and don't know about it? If someone > else has a real DTK 486 DX2-66 that uses 30 pin memory, I'd appreciate > an attempt by them to reproduce this problem. I have tried running > only fdapm, ne2000, mouse, DOSLFN, command, and system. I still get > kernel panic, system halted. I have 20 megs of ram, memtest says that > the memory is fine. Could the order I have the chips plugged in in > be a problem? Which bank needs to be 1 meg chips? While fdupdate doesn't work, I am retrieving a file off of an ftp server using wget. I don't think wget is crashing. It is running awfully slow though, could be because I don't have himem loaded. One thing I'm wondering about, does freedos work when serial ports are overlapped? The standard thing to do for 4 serial ports is to do com1 and com3 on irq 4 with com2 and com4 on irq 3. More than 2 near fnodes, does that have something to do with overlapping serial ports? Please note that I've tried dos memtest and it isn't showing any memory errors. MS DOS 6.22 has a tool that graphically shows a representation of memory, I think it was called msd. Is there an equivalent for freedos? My isa nic is a DE220PT in non pnp mode, has anyone had problems using these under freedos? Please note that ssh2dos works. Every network application except for fdupdate seems to work okay. What is an fnode? What does a message that more than 2 near fnodes are opened mean? Please someone, try fdupdate v0.54 on a real 486 with 30 pin memory, maybe you'll run into the same problem that I am having. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] chkdsk broken?
--- Blair Campbell schrieb am Fr, 3.4.2009: > IIRC chkdsk does not support FAT32 filesystems. This might > be your issue. No, it's a FAT16 filesystem. When I boot MS-DOS 6.22 from CD it can read it fine and its chkdsk doesn't report any problems. chris -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FDUPDATE crash
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 17:12 +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2009 16:08, Michael Robinson wrote: > > When I run fdupdate, it crashes with a 2 near fnodes error. > > Hi, > > Please define the crash. When exactly is it happening? When FDUPDATE is > starting itself, or when it run wget to retrieve the repository list? > > That's a verry important information, as it will tell us wheter it's really a > FDUPDATE crash, or wget... > Does wget itself works fine (can you retrieve any file with it)? > > As for FDUPDATE, it's a very simple program written in FreeBASIC, there is no > Network handlers at all, just the gui + the wget "sublauncher". > Another test would consist of using the CURL handler instead of the wget's > one. Obviously you will have to install CURL, and modify the FDUPDATE > configuration file to tell it to use CURL instead of wget... > > > I wish I knew exactly what is causing the crash. > > Please give us the informations I asked for, it will be a good start :) > > Best regards, > Mateusz Viste I'm not certain about what is crashing. Changing to curl makes no difference at all. This works on my Pentium 4, so I suspect there is something specific to my 486 that is causing the problem. I wish the crash message was more descriptive. A dump of the processor's registers and more than 2 near fnodes does not tell me what crashed. Did command.com crash? Was there an invalid memory reference because I need to exclude a certain region and don't know about it? If someone else has a real DTK 486 DX2-66 that uses 30 pin memory, I'd appreciate an attempt by them to reproduce this problem. I have tried running only fdapm, ne2000, mouse, DOSLFN, command, and system. I still get kernel panic, system halted. I have 20 megs of ram, memtest says that the memory is fine. Could the order I have the chips plugged in in be a problem? Which bank needs to be 1 meg chips? -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status???
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alain M. wrote: > > King InuYasha escreveu: > > I believe Info-ZIP has a suitable replacement for PKware's DOS pkzip and > > pkunzip (ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/msdos/). > > Yes, it is compatible, just has a different command line (more unix > like). I made the switch many years ago :) > > Definnetly ZIP and UNZIP should be included with FreeDOS, in the 16bit > versions. The 16bit UNZIP can handle any size zip file, so it is > perfectly ok, only ZIP needs to be 32 bit for very big archives. > > What could be interesting is to distribute a copy od UNARJ and UNRAR > with FreeDOS. Both are 100% free. > > Alain > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > Someone could rewrite the options and make them more DOS-like instead, but isn't worth it. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status...
Is fdupdate compiled with SSE or MMX or any other special instruction sets that are unavailable in 486? If so, just recompile with those disabled. On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > I'm still stumped as to why fdupdate works on my Pentium 4, > but it doesn't work on my 486. > > When I run memtest 2.1.1 for dos, it doesn't find any errors. > > When I run ssh2dos, it works. > > When I run fdupdate, it crashes with a 2 near fnodes error. > > I wish I knew exactly what is causing the crash. > > For example, it could be the crynwr ne2000 driver. > > Is there another driver for a Dlink DE220PT isa nic? > > I suppose I can pull the DE220PT and try a UM9008 isa > nic. > > Aside from this problem, I'm wondering if anyone is > working on the new installer for Freedos 1.1? If not, > I might have some time and might be able to help if > someone can point me out to instructions on what to > use and how to use it. I could benefit from learning > how to use dos curses for example as another project > I'm working on to port drivewire to dos requires that > I work with curses. I'm actually stopped cold on the > porting project right now. > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FDUPDATE crash
On Friday 03 April 2009 16:08, Michael Robinson wrote: > When I run fdupdate, it crashes with a 2 near fnodes error. Hi, Please define the crash. When exactly is it happening? When FDUPDATE is starting itself, or when it run wget to retrieve the repository list? That's a verry important information, as it will tell us wheter it's really a FDUPDATE crash, or wget... Does wget itself works fine (can you retrieve any file with it)? As for FDUPDATE, it's a very simple program written in FreeBASIC, there is no Network handlers at all, just the gui + the wget "sublauncher". Another test would consist of using the CURL handler instead of the wget's one. Obviously you will have to install CURL, and modify the FDUPDATE configuration file to tell it to use CURL instead of wget... > I wish I knew exactly what is causing the crash. Please give us the informations I asked for, it will be a good start :) Best regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status???
On Friday 03 April 2009 16:56, Alain M. wrote: > UNARJ.EXE may be freely used and distributed. Doesn't matter anyway - I just checked my repository, and there is only the OpenSource version of ARJ, so no license problem there :) Regards, Mateusz -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status???
King InuYasha escreveu: > I believe Info-ZIP has a suitable replacement for PKware's DOS pkzip and > pkunzip (ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/msdos/). Yes, it is compatible, just has a different command line (more unix like). I made the switch many years ago :) Definnetly ZIP and UNZIP should be included with FreeDOS, in the 16bit versions. The 16bit UNZIP can handle any size zip file, so it is perfectly ok, only ZIP needs to be 32 bit for very big archives. What could be interesting is to distribute a copy od UNARJ and UNRAR with FreeDOS. Both are 100% free. Alain -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status???
Mateusz Viste escreveu: > > As for ARJ (I am not talking about the OpenSource one, which is another > program), it is freeware. May be downloaded without restrictions from ARJ's > website, as far as we use it for a home usage. > http://www.arjsoftware.com/files.htm No, it is not freeware, just shareware. And this is not compatible with FreeDOS. I just checked on their site: Payment may be made in the following ways: * By USA Bank Check ... INTERNAL USE LICENSE for the use of ARJ for MS-DOS: (Choose ONLY ONE of the following ARJ price schedules) 1 computer at $45 __ ... UNARJ.EXE may be freely used and distributed. etc... Alain -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status...
I'm still stumped as to why fdupdate works on my Pentium 4, but it doesn't work on my 486. When I run memtest 2.1.1 for dos, it doesn't find any errors. When I run ssh2dos, it works. When I run fdupdate, it crashes with a 2 near fnodes error. I wish I knew exactly what is causing the crash. For example, it could be the crynwr ne2000 driver. Is there another driver for a Dlink DE220PT isa nic? I suppose I can pull the DE220PT and try a UM9008 isa nic. Aside from this problem, I'm wondering if anyone is working on the new installer for Freedos 1.1? If not, I might have some time and might be able to help if someone can point me out to instructions on what to use and how to use it. I could benefit from learning how to use dos curses for example as another project I'm working on to port drivewire to dos requires that I work with curses. I'm actually stopped cold on the porting project right now. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status???
I believe Info-ZIP has a suitable replacement for PKware's DOS pkzip and pkunzip (ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/msdos/). On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Friday 03 April 2009 06:12, Blair Campbell wrote: > > arj is open-source (http://arj.sourceforge.net/) and pkzip afaik can > > be redistributed (but not the source). > > Hi! > > I think Alain is right. I didn't bothered checking before (I naively > assumed that such old tools would be at least freeware by now), but it > appears that PKware is still selling their PKzip for DOS product: > > http://www.pkware.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=90 > > As for ARJ (I am not talking about the OpenSource one, which is another > program), it is freeware. May be downloaded without restrictions from ARJ's > website, as far as we use it for a home usage. > http://www.arjsoftware.com/files.htm > > I will remove PKzip from my repository ASAP, and replace ARJ by the > OpenSource ARJ program. > > Thank you all for your interest. > > Best regards, > Mateusz > -- > You'll find my public OpenPGP key at > http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key > > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Command prompt returns without commands executing
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:20:40 +0100, I waved a wand and this message magically appears in front of Eric Auer: > Indeed a very annoying bug in FreeCOM 0.84 but nobody has yet found > a way to predict WHEN it happens. If you can find a way to make it > happen at a more specific time than "after a while", we could use a > debugger to find out what exactly happens when things break. Note > that only running com/exe/... (external commands) breaks, you can > typically still run internal commands like DIR. Is this the same bug > that you are experiencing? Smells like a stack overflow somewhere, methinks, -- http://www.munted.org.uk Fearsome grindings. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status???
On Friday 03 April 2009 06:12, Blair Campbell wrote: > arj is open-source (http://arj.sourceforge.net/) and pkzip afaik can > be redistributed (but not the source). Hi! I think Alain is right. I didn't bothered checking before (I naively assumed that such old tools would be at least freeware by now), but it appears that PKware is still selling their PKzip for DOS product: http://www.pkware.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=90 As for ARJ (I am not talking about the OpenSource one, which is another program), it is freeware. May be downloaded without restrictions from ARJ's website, as far as we use it for a home usage. http://www.arjsoftware.com/files.htm I will remove PKzip from my repository ASAP, and replace ARJ by the OpenSource ARJ program. Thank you all for your interest. Best regards, Mateusz -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
