Re: [Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-07-01 Thread Aitor Santamaría
The kernel files are now mirrored to ibiblio:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat16-binary.zip
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-fat32-binary.zip
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2038/kernel2038-source.zip

Thanks to kernel developers for this important release!
Aitor


2009/6/13 Pat Villani :
> I would like to thank all the folks who have worked very hard to
> produce this latest kernel.  Their effort is very much appreciated by
> myself and all the people who continue to use FreeDOS in various
> applications.
>
> I am looking forward to using this new kernel and updating the distribution.
>
> Pat
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Re: [Freedos-user] Lindin - a FreeDOS installer script for Linux

2009-07-01 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello!!

Apparently, the "downloads" link is broken, right?
I thought you would want to know about it..

Aitor

2009/4/28 maybeway36 :
> My newest project is Lindin, the LINux Dos INstaller (typical
> Linux-style ridiculous acronym.) It is a shell script using dialog (or
> zenity, a GUI equivalent of dialog) to install FreeDOS 1.0 + FDUPDATE
> updates onto a FAT partition. The site is at
> http://lindin.tuxfamily.org/. I released version 1.0 last week, but
> haven't gotten around to sending an announcement to this list until
> now.
>
> There are .deb packages, .rpm packages, and a .lzm module available.
> If you are using .deb or .rpm, grab lindin, freedos-base, and
> freedos-updates. Lindin can work without freedos-base and download the
> packages instead, but without freedos-updates, they'll be the old
> packages from 2006. The .lzm module is designed for Slax, and can
> really come in handy if you have a Slax CD and need to install FreeDOS
> for some reason.
>
> If you have Linux, try it out (in a VM, probably) and tell me what you
> think. It's still a work in progress.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] De-Geekifying This List (Was: Some Simple List Rules)

2009-07-01 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello Mike,

Thanks for writing and expressing your opinion.
In fact, I think you brought an interesting topic that is also of my
concern. When the freedos-user list was created, it was indeed created
as a list for those users that need not have knowledge about the
internals of FreeDOS itself in order to use it.
So far, the facts that I have experienced are:

(a) Much of the traffic has switched from freedos-devel to
freedos-user. In some cases it is a correct movement, as we could
seldomly see that inexperienced users asked simple FreeDOS ussage
question in a list that was supposed to be to discuss internalities of
FreeDOS development.

(b) At times, the replies are quite technical or advanced (or "geek"),
far more than the original question. At times I have tried in the past
to move those to the freedos-devel, but that proved to be helpless.

(c) In most times, a simple question produced a complex/geek answer,
but was appropriate to the geekness level that the person who asked
expected.

(d) At times, a simple question produced a complex/geek answer, that
the person who asked did not understand, but didn't dare/bother to ask
for more help.

In the understanding that there should be a chance for both types of
users, I propose the following two options: just let me know what you
think, and I'll run the administrative stuff:
(1) Create a new mailing list called "freedos-advanced" aimed to the
advanced users, and leave this one for the basic users.
(2) Create a new mailing list called "freedos-basic" aimed to the
basic users, and leave this one for the advanced users.

In both cases, I should advise that,
(a) in the basic users list, technicalities should be left appart as
much as possible, in the understanding that the user there must not
necessarily be an IT-PC-super-expert.
(b) if a user expects a more detailed answer on certain topic, (s)he
should turn to the advanced list and ask there.

The traffic should not change, as it's just more a question of knowing
the degree of detail that the user needs. And freedos-devel is not
changed/affected in any way.

Cheers,
Aitor



2009/6/21 Mike Webb :
>> > From: Pat Villani 
>> > Subject: [Freedos-user] Some simple list rules
>> > Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 8:46 AM
>> >
>> > 1. Please remember that this is a users mailing list.
>> > Many of these folks are non technical and may not under-
>> > stand the ramifications of what they are asking for.
>
> Pat, as a person who's been following this list for some time, I'm not
> sure that the purpose you've mentioned is being adhered to all that
> well. I have been a power user since the days when DOS was cool, and a
> lot of the posts still go over my head like a roof. Discussions of
> compiling,  listings of scripts (config.sys settings?) that are far
> more complicated than I've ever used and many more things give me the
> impression that this is much more of a Freedos-Geeks list than a
> Freedos-User list.
>
> I just went to the Freedos site, the Wiki and the How-To pages and am
> still about as baffled as to how to make Freedos work for me as I have
> been all along.
>
> The impression I have (despite the statement that Freedos can pretty
> much run any software designed for MS-DOS) is that the kind of system
> I used as a 100% DOS user would not work, but requires a lot more
> stuff in the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT. Let me give as an example a
> basic CONFIG/AUTOEXEC setup for MS-DOS (5.x and higher);
>
> CONFIG.SYS:
> device=HIMEM.SYS
> device=EMM386.EXE
> files=40
> buffers=40
> devicehigh=NANSI.SYS
>
> AUTOEXEC.BAT:
> @echo off
> cls
> prompt $p$g
> path=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\BAT;C:\UTIL
> lh SMARTDRV.EXE 2048
> cls
> c:
> cd \
> ver
>
> (I've probably forgotten something; it's been quite awhile since I've
> written these files from scratch; or tinkered with them at all, for
> that matter.)
>
> I found nothing in the HOWTOs on the order of "Freedos for Dummies" or
> "Freedos for experienced MS-DOS Users." I honestly don't know what I
> could reasonably expect to do in a Freedos environment, using this
> configuration that would work just fine in an MS-DOS environment. If
> there are samples of basic CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files lurking
> around, I can't readily find them. And if I can't find them, people
> with even less knowledge aren't going to, either.
>
> I wish I could offer to pitch in on the kinds of things that I see are
> needed, but it's beyond my reach at this time. Plus, considering all
> the gobbledygook I read here, I'm not even sure where I'd begin.
>
> All I can say is that for Freedos' sake, whatever effort some of y'all
> can make to set out a "welcome mat" that explains the differences
> between MS-DOS and FreeDOS, particularly as far as configuration goes
> and how to resolve issues involving common programs that don't quite
> run "as-is" under Freedos would be very much appreciated, I believe.
>
> Thanks for "listening".
>
> -

[Freedos-user] Announcement: New DOS USB Drivers (fwd)

2009-07-01 Thread Bonnie Dalzell
When I was doing some help type work tracking down documentation and 
sources utilities for Freedos I wrote this programmer about some of his 
drivers - so he forwarded this announcement to me about his new DOS USB 
drivers. I hope this is of interest to the Freedos community.

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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:49:53 GMT
From: Bret Johnson 
To: bretj...@juno.com
Subject: Announcement: New DOS USB Drivers

Good day to you.

My name is Bret Johnson, and I write DOS TSR programs.  I am sending this 
e-mail to you because you have contacted me in the past regarding at least 
one of my DOS programs, and I thought you might be interested in knowing 
that I have just released some DOS USB drivers for testing.  These drivers 
are completely different (and hopefully better) than any other DOS USB 
drivers that are currently available.  There are drivers for USB 
keyboards, mice, joysticks, printers, and disk drives.

Unfortunately, the the drivers have some limitations, and may not work 
with your current hardware.  They host drivers will currently only work 
with USB host controllers that use the UHCI protocol, which are made by 
Intel and Via Technologies.  Support for other host controller 
manufacturers will be added in the future.

If you're interested, please go to my web site (http://bretjohnson.us), 
download the files, and let me know what you think.  If you're not 
interested, I apologize for the inconvenience.  Please let me know if you 
want me to remove you from my contact list regarding DOS programs.

Thank you very much,

Bret Johnson
http://bretjohnson.us

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[Freedos-user] New FreeDOSers Monthly Reminder

2009-07-01 Thread jp_freedos
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