Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread nospam
Rugxulo has made a single floppy FreeDOS image called BARE_DOS that works 
well:
https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Ricardus Vincente
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 23:59 +, "Jose Antonio Senna" wrote:


> > While I understand that FreeDOS is a modern DOS not meant just for
> >older hardware, I thought that one of the purposes for FreeDOS was to
> >make older hardware relevant again. From the looks of it, I can't see
> >any reasonable way to get FreeDOS working on an old machine that has no
> >OS currently on it.
> 
>  How are you going to write the image(s) to a floppy ?
> 
>  Regards
>  JAS

 I have several friends with USB 3.5 inch drives. So they will make me a
Floppy and mail it to me.

 So weird that I have to use Snail Mail to get a way to boot my old
pentium machine!

 BTW, I think these images will do:

http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Jose Antonio Senna
Ricardus Vincente  said:

> While I understand that FreeDOS is a modern DOS not meant just for
>older hardware, I thought that one of the purposes for FreeDOS was to
>make older hardware relevant again. From the looks of it, I can't see
>any reasonable way to get FreeDOS working on an old machine that has no
>OS currently on it.

 How are you going to write the image(s) to a floppy ?

 Regards
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[Freedos-user] PC104 system for Freedos

2012-09-16 Thread k4...@aol.com


Anyone know of a manufacturer of a PC104 board (or boards) that includes  
everything including video interface that will run Freedos?


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[Freedos-user] Freedos Boot Image

2012-09-16 Thread Ed Vance
Originally to: All

Hi All,

I noticed a Freedos image in the UBCD4Win (Universal Boot CD for
Windows) that I downloaded recently.

IIRC, I clicked on Freedos on the UBCD4Win Menu.

Then I used EDIT to look at AUTOEXEC.BAT, CONFIG.SYS and README.

The image file was a 1.44MB boot disk for Freedos.

I couldn't use a mouse in EDIT, but that was alright since I cut my
teath on Commodore BASIC for their C=64, and learned DOS at work on a
ITT computer that had ITT-DOS 2.11 on it.

If a ctmouse.exe file was in the image I could had used the mouse.

I have been reading this echo since December 2010 and have saved many
messages I have seen in the echo, so far I gathered 6.8 million Bytes of
interesting information from the folks in here.

I've learned a lot of things about DOS that I've never saw B4.  Thanks!


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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread lee jones
not sure if it helps but I made this bootdisk a while back;

http://spfiles.no-ip.org/dos_bootdisk.img

I use this with an emulator called PCE which emulates an old 8086 based PC.

ljones

On 9/16/12, Ralf A. Quint  wrote:
> At 01:46 PM 9/16/2012, Ricardus Vincente wrote:
>>On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 22:39 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks!
>>
>>  Wow. I imagined that it would be a little easier than this.
>>
>>  While I understand that FreeDOS is a modern DOS not meant just for
>>older hardware, I thought that one of the purposes for FreeDOS was to
>>make older hardware relevant again. From the looks of it, I can't see
>>any reasonable way to get FreeDOS working on an old machine that has no
>>OS currently on it.
>
> Just hang in there, not all people are just ignoring problems like this...
>
> Ralf
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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 01:46 PM 9/16/2012, Ricardus Vincente wrote:
>On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 22:39 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Wow. I imagined that it would be a little easier than this.
>
>  While I understand that FreeDOS is a modern DOS not meant just for
>older hardware, I thought that one of the purposes for FreeDOS was to
>make older hardware relevant again. From the looks of it, I can't see
>any reasonable way to get FreeDOS working on an old machine that has no
>OS currently on it.

Just hang in there, not all people are just ignoring problems like this...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Ricardus Vincente
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 22:39 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:

 Thanks!

 Wow. I imagined that it would be a little easier than this.

 While I understand that FreeDOS is a modern DOS not meant just for
older hardware, I thought that one of the purposes for FreeDOS was to
make older hardware relevant again. From the looks of it, I can't see
any reasonable way to get FreeDOS working on an old machine that has no
OS currently on it.

 Rich...

> Hi Ricardus,
> 
> Am 16.09.2012 21:56, schrieb Ricardus Vincente:
> >  I have looked around the FreeDOS web page and can't find them. I am
> > looking to resurrect an old Zeos Pentium 90 that I have, but it won't
> > boot from CD (its not a BIOS option), and it has no OS on it right now,
> > so I am going to need to boot it from 3.5 floppy.
> > 
> >  Are there any official IMG files that I can create a boot floppy from?
> 
> While it is not official, I really like the idea of
> Rugxulo's RUFFIDEA distro. It packs most BASE programs
> 
> as listed here www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base and
> dozens of other small, free, often open source, goodies
> on just three floppy disks. The sources are on separate
> downloads which are significantly larger, ca 5-8 MB for
> each floppy image. Not totally up to date, Rugxulo will
> be happy to post his wish-list, but definitely one of
> the best things you can do with 3 floppies! :-) Maybe
> somebody wants to help updating it?
> 
> https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/
> 
> The page also has a minimal one floppy boot floppy, in
> style of the old (former?) fdos.org daily build disks.
> 
> >From my own experience, the OLD FreeDOS 1.0 "Brezel"
> floppy distro experiment, two disks is an appropriate
> amount of space for all BASE binaries, basic docs as
> the HTMLHELP (which works even while zipped) and some
> small pile of other goodies. The third disk of Brezel
> was just a big zip with the doc/ directory wrapped up.
> As a German-friendly distro, Brezel also contained a
> German HTMLHELP and FreeCOM and localization things.
> 
> If you were to omit all text files and maybe drop a
> few lesser-used apps, you CAN manage with one floppy
> of running FreeDOS where MS DOS took 3 install disks
> and probably more when you installed to floppies :-)
> 
> But as said, between two and four disks of FreeDOS
> are just so much more fun than doing with just one.
> 
> Best, Eric :-)
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Ricardus,

Am 16.09.2012 21:56, schrieb Ricardus Vincente:
>  I have looked around the FreeDOS web page and can't find them. I am
> looking to resurrect an old Zeos Pentium 90 that I have, but it won't
> boot from CD (its not a BIOS option), and it has no OS on it right now,
> so I am going to need to boot it from 3.5 floppy.
> 
>  Are there any official IMG files that I can create a boot floppy from?

While it is not official, I really like the idea of
Rugxulo's RUFFIDEA distro. It packs most BASE programs

as listed here www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base and
dozens of other small, free, often open source, goodies
on just three floppy disks. The sources are on separate
downloads which are significantly larger, ca 5-8 MB for
each floppy image. Not totally up to date, Rugxulo will
be happy to post his wish-list, but definitely one of
the best things you can do with 3 floppies! :-) Maybe
somebody wants to help updating it?

https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/

The page also has a minimal one floppy boot floppy, in
style of the old (former?) fdos.org daily build disks.

>From my own experience, the OLD FreeDOS 1.0 "Brezel"
floppy distro experiment, two disks is an appropriate
amount of space for all BASE binaries, basic docs as
the HTMLHELP (which works even while zipped) and some
small pile of other goodies. The third disk of Brezel
was just a big zip with the doc/ directory wrapped up.
As a German-friendly distro, Brezel also contained a
German HTMLHELP and FreeCOM and localization things.

If you were to omit all text files and maybe drop a
few lesser-used apps, you CAN manage with one floppy
of running FreeDOS where MS DOS took 3 install disks
and probably more when you installed to floppies :-)

But as said, between two and four disks of FreeDOS
are just so much more fun than doing with just one.

Best, Eric :-)



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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Ricardus Vincente
 wrote:
>
>  I have looked around the FreeDOS web page and can't find them. I am
> looking to resurrect an old Zeos Pentium 90 that I have, but it won't
> boot from CD (its not a BIOS option), and it has no OS on it right now,
> so I am going to need to boot it from 3.5 floppy.
>
>  Are there any official IMG files that I can create a boot floppy from?

No official floppy images, no, mostly because nobody uses them anymore.   :-(

You can probably? use something like Smart Boot Manager to boot from
CD, even if your BIOS doesn't support it, but I've not tried.

http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs/smbtmgrx.zip

Alternately, you can find any old DOS boot floppy, create a very
minimal install, then copy the .ISO (split up, of course) on other
floppies, then recombine it and mount it via SHSUCDHD. Then you could
presumably install from there. Probably easier to grab if you have
working network card (NIC) and packet driver (Crynwr).

P.S. You could try older floppy images of ODIN ("one disk installer")
or similar, but these may be somewhat old and outdated (but better
than nothing, I suppose):

http://odin.fdos.org/
http://www.finnix.org/Balder
https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/BARE_DOS.ZIP?attredirects=0

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Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012-09-16 15:56 (GMT-0400) Ricardus Vincente composed:

>   I have looked around the FreeDOS web page and can't find them. I am
> looking to resurrect an old Zeos Pentium 90 that I have, but it won't
> boot from CD (its not a BIOS option), and it has no OS on it right now,
> so I am going to need to boot it from 3.5 floppy.

>   Are there any official IMG files that I can create a boot floppy from?

The installation CD has a menu option to create a boot floppy that should 
work from a computer with working OM and floppy devices. The only machine I 
tried it on (core2duo) gave floppy drive failure messages every time, but 
succeeded in making a bootable floppy after booting freshly installed FreeDOS 
1.1. Maybe it would work for you.
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[Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Ricardus Vincente
 I have looked around the FreeDOS web page and can't find them. I am
looking to resurrect an old Zeos Pentium 90 that I have, but it won't
boot from CD (its not a BIOS option), and it has no OS on it right now,
so I am going to need to boot it from 3.5 floppy.

 Are there any official IMG files that I can create a boot floppy from?


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[Freedos-user] deselecting localization features breaks installation

2012-09-16 Thread Felix Miata


Last week I installed 1.1 from CD burned from downloaded iso. I deselected
such localization features as keyb and nlsfunc and others I don't remember.
The final stages of installation produced several screenfuls of the same
localization error message that I no longer remember. The resulting
fdconfig.sys was broken, producing no displayed menu, but waits on user input
based upon the missing menu. I searched the bug tracker for the string
fdconfig.sys and got 0 hits. Ordinarily I file bugs when I see things like
this, but it's been a week and I don't remember details sufficient to make a
useful report.

[FDCONFIG.SYS]
!COUNTRY=001,858,C:\DOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!SET DOSDIR=C:\DOS
1?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
2?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
2?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG
3?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\XMGR.SYS
3?SHELL=C:\DOS\bin\4dos.com C:\DOS\bin /E:1024 /P:C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
4?SHELL=C:\DOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
12?SHELLHIGH=C:\DOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT

install.log: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/installlog-fd11-20120911.txt
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Re: [Freedos-user] How to do networking from Win7 to FreeDOS and other stuff

2012-09-16 Thread Derp

I'm not using VMWare because it doesn't work for me, so I'm using VirtualBox,
and Ulrich Hansen got what i needed, thanks anyways


cordata02 wrote:
> 
> Derp,
> 
> First, I suggest you put the text into your email that you want people to
> read rather than making them click on a link - you will get more
> responses.
> 
> Second, I personally would recommend VMWare player in this case over
> Virtual Box.  Use the VMSMOUNT program by Eduardo Casino and you will get
> exactly what you are looking for.
> 
> Others will give you different advice.
> 
> Dave
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Derp <1223...@gmail.com>
> To: freedos-user 
> Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 8:06 pm
> Subject: [Freedos-user] How to do networking from Win7 to FreeDOS and
> other stuff
> 
> 
> 
> I was told to go here from the Virtualbox forum
> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=51549&p=236044
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Re: [Freedos-user] How to do networking from Win7 to FreeDOS and other stuff

2012-09-16 Thread Derp

Thanks although you accidentally made a new topic 

Ulrich Hansen wrote:
> 
> Please take a look here:
> sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=VirtualBox
> 
> 
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