Re: [Freedos-user] Dual boot
Maybe you should reread what I wrote previously: Right, sorry. I didn't look into that. grub root (hd0,0) grub setup (hd0,0) grub quit I thought you were referring to how to *load* FreeDOS from within GRUB, considering how that was the topic previously. But that's of course installing (legacy) GRUB, presumably into a different partition then the primary partition that you boot FreeDOS from. Using sys c: is indeed easy (using whatever letter currently represents the primary partition to boot) (more to the point would be sys c: /bootonly, or sys c: bootsect.bin /bootonly for chainloading the file and leaving the current boot sector alone), assuming you booted into a DOS to use the usual FreeDOS SYS. So this set-up again has a requirement (of booting into a DOS first) that the GRUB 2 freedos command method doesn't have. But you would be right in now asserting now that the current FreeDOS installer needs that anyway, so overall installation might be easier using GRUB legacy. To clarify, switching from GRUB legacy to GRUB 2 for just one minor feature wouldn't be worth it usually too; I didn't mean to imply otherwise. And there's another (definitive) disadvantage of GRUB 2: it has a slightly less compatible licence, GNU GPL v3+ instead of v2+. Even if one prefers v3, it does lessen compatibility. Regards, Chris -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?
Hi ! On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:38 -0500, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: MS-DOS / Win9x forced you to install in the very beginning of the hard drive. Uh ? What have you been smoking ? (smile)... MS-DOS will happily install to any primary partition on the first HD - and boot itself from the standard MBR, no hacking required, provided its partition is active of course. With a little hokus-pokus and alternative boot loaders, MS-DOS could also be persuaded to boot from other kind of partitions (secondary and/or patitions residing on a second disk). I presume you Rugxulo knew this and just were momentarily confused. Or did you mean to say something else, maybe that in default installations, starting from a blank hard disk MS-DOS would end up in the beginning of the disk ? Duh! Anyway, someone had to point this out for the record. -- Czerno -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] (no subject)
I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos. I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the web. In an effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following into fdconfig.sys: device=c:\net\yuknd.dos When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over this? (The laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more highly problematic.) Many thanks for sharing your wisdom. George ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to be a duplicate posting. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject) - dos printer network in vmware
Hi! Not sure why you want to print via network, but if you want to use network in VMWare, you can use a DOS driver for any virtual network card of VMWare. No need to use a driver for the actual network hardware of Windows... You can also try other virtual computers such as Bochs, VirtualBox and similar :-) Eric PS: When using virtual network hardware, you can even use Wireless and other modern devices, as long as you have the WINDOWS driver for those on your Windows 7. I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos. ... Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over this? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
I can do it this way: 1) configure VMware as Bridge PCnet NIC 2) use the drivers from netbootdisk.com for the driver inside VMware. the guy there is making an excelent job of collecting new drivers It just works... Alain Em 19-09-2012 19:53, George Brooks escreveu: I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos. I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the web. In an effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following into fdconfig.sys: device=c:\net\yuknd.dos When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over this? (The laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more highly problematic.) Many thanks for sharing your wisdom. George ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to be a duplicate posting. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] VMWare, MSClient, Marvell Yukon - controller not found
Thanks for your reply. (Note the addition of the original, apparently not sent, subject.) While netbootdisk.com looks interesting it is not a feasible solution here. For one, the machine does not have a floppy drive! Plus, my OS is Win7, which does not create bootable floppies. I did see that netbootdisk will find the Marvell Yukon card and use the same driver that I have. My problem is not that the I can't find the right driver. It's that the driver does not see that the controller is present. I don't know enough about the MSClient process to tell whether this is the fault of the driver (yuknd.dos) or the configuration of protocol.ini. That file is borrowed from this discussion. I also added the appropriate lines to fdconfig.sys. I remain stumped. George From: Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com To: George Brooks truckeetr...@yahoo.com; Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject) I can do it this way: 1) configure VMware as Bridge PCnet NIC 2) use the drivers from netbootdisk.com for the driver inside VMware. the guy there is making an excelent job of collecting new drivers It just works... Alain Em 19-09-2012 19:53, George Brooks escreveu: I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos. I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the web. In an effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following into fdconfig.sys: device=c:\net\yuknd.dos When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over this? (The laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more highly problematic.) Many thanks for sharing your wisdom. George ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to be a duplicate posting. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user-- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] VMWare, MSClient, Marvell Yukon - controller not found
Alain, Thanks for the link. I'll try to make an iso here. I downloaded the iso from the link you provided, booted it to get: Processing archive...FILES.HUA ERROR: Not enough memory Process aborted Bad command or file name More fun to be had with this... George From: Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com To: George Brooks truckeetr...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:09 PM Subject: Re: VMWare, MSClient, Marvell Yukon - controller not found Yes, use a CD burning software to breate a bootable CD with the netbootdisk image. It is explained in the site, or use this: http://suporte.cosmodata.com.br/downloads/moni/netbootdisk65.iso You don want the driver for your phisical board, but for one of the virtual boards inside VMware. much easier then what you are trying to do Alain Em 19-09-2012 21:54, George Brooks escreveu: Thanks for your reply. (Note the addition of the original, apparently not sent, subject.) While netbootdisk.com looks interesting it is not a feasible solution here. For one, the machine does not have a floppy drive! Plus, my OS is Win7, which does not create bootable floppies. I did see that netbootdisk will find the Marvell Yukon card and use the same driver that I have. My problem is not that the I can't find the right driver. It's that the driver does not see that the controller is present. I don't know enough about the MSClient process to tell whether this is the fault of the driver (yuknd.dos) or the configuration of protocol.ini. That file is borrowed from this discussion http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=121970.0;wap. I also added the appropriate lines to fdconfig.sys. I remain stumped. George *From:* Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com *To:* George Brooks truckeetr...@yahoo.com; Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:01 PM *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject) I can do it this way: 1) configure VMware as Bridge PCnet NIC 2) use the drivers from netbootdisk.com for the driver inside VMware. the guy there is making an excelent job of collecting new drivers It just works... Alain Em 19-09-2012 19:53, George Brooks escreveu: I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos. I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the web. In an effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following into fdconfig.sys: device=c:\net\yuknd.dos When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over this? (The laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more highly problematic.) Many thanks for sharing your wisdom. George ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to be a duplicate posting. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user