Re: [Freedos-user] Dual boot

2012-09-19 Thread C. Masloch
 Maybe you should reread what I wrote previously:

Right, sorry. I didn't look into that.

 grub root (hd0,0)
 grub setup (hd0,0)
 grub quit

I thought you were referring to how to *load* FreeDOS from within GRUB,  
considering how that was the topic previously. But that's of course  
installing (legacy) GRUB, presumably into a different partition then the  
primary partition that you boot FreeDOS from.

Using sys c: is indeed easy (using whatever letter currently represents  
the primary partition to boot) (more to the point would be sys c:  
/bootonly, or sys c: bootsect.bin /bootonly for chainloading the file  
and leaving the current boot sector alone), assuming you booted into a DOS  
to use the usual FreeDOS SYS.

So this set-up again has a requirement (of booting into a DOS first) that  
the GRUB 2 freedos command method doesn't have. But you would be right  
in now asserting now that the current FreeDOS installer needs that anyway,  
so overall installation might be easier using GRUB legacy. To clarify,  
switching from GRUB legacy to GRUB 2 for just one minor feature wouldn't  
be worth it usually too; I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

And there's another (definitive) disadvantage of GRUB 2: it has a slightly  
less compatible licence, GNU GPL v3+ instead of v2+. Even if one prefers  
v3, it does lessen compatibility.

Regards,
Chris

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Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-19 Thread Bertho Grandpied
Hi !
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:38 -0500, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote:

 MS-DOS / Win9x forced you to install in the very beginning
 of the hard drive. 

Uh ? What have you been smoking ? (smile)... MS-DOS will happily install to any 
primary partition on the first HD - and boot itself from the standard MBR, no 
hacking required, provided its partition is active of course. 

With a little hokus-pokus and alternative boot loaders, MS-DOS could also be 
persuaded to boot from other kind of partitions (secondary and/or patitions 
residing on a second disk).

I presume you Rugxulo knew this and just were momentarily confused. 
Or did you mean to say something else, maybe that in default installations, 
starting from a blank hard disk MS-DOS would end up in the beginning of the 
disk ? Duh! Anyway, someone had to point this out for the record.


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[Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-09-19 Thread George Brooks
I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for 
access to a legacy DOS application.  The environment is an HP laptop 
(6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1.  All 
proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via 
MSClient.  (This is the only way I can see to get the application to 
print.)  The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the 
laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon.  The driver is named 
yuknd.dos.


I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the web. In an 
effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following into fdconfig.sys:

device=c:\net\yuknd.dos

When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message Controller 
not found.  What means, if any, are available to get over this?  (The 
laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more highly 
problematic.)

Many thanks for sharing your wisdom.
George

ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to be a 
duplicate posting.
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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject) - dos printer network in vmware

2012-09-19 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

Not sure why you want to print via network, but if you
want to use network in VMWare, you can use a DOS driver
for any virtual network card of VMWare. No need to use
a driver for the actual network hardware of Windows...
You can also try other virtual computers such as Bochs,
VirtualBox and similar :-)

Eric

PS: When using virtual network hardware, you can even
use Wireless and other modern devices, as long as you
have the WINDOWS driver for those on your Windows 7.

 I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for 
 access to a legacy DOS application.  The environment is an HP laptop 
 (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1.  All 
 proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via 
 MSClient.  (This is the only way I can see to get the application to 
 print.)  The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the 
 laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon.  The driver is named 
 yuknd.dos.
...
 Controller not found.  What means, if any, are available to get over this?



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Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2012-09-19 Thread Alain Mouette
I can do it this way:

1) configure VMware as Bridge PCnet NIC
2) use the drivers from netbootdisk.com for the driver inside VMware. 
the guy there is making an excelent job of collecting new drivers

It just works...

Alain

Em 19-09-2012 19:53, George Brooks escreveu:
 I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for
 access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop
 (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All
 proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via
 MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to
 print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the
 laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos.

 I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the
 web. In an effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following
 into fdconfig.sys:

 device=c:\net\yuknd.dos

 When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message
 Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over
 this? (The laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more
 highly problematic.)

 Many thanks for sharing your wisdom.

 George

 ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to
 be a duplicate posting.


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Re: [Freedos-user] VMWare, MSClient, Marvell Yukon - controller not found

2012-09-19 Thread George Brooks
Thanks for your reply.  (Note the addition of the original, apparently not 
sent, subject.)


While netbootdisk.com looks interesting it is not a feasible solution here.  
For one, the machine does not have a floppy drive!  Plus, my OS is Win7, which 
does not create bootable floppies.

I did see that netbootdisk will find the Marvell Yukon card and use the same 
driver that I have.  My problem is not that the I can't find the right driver.  
It's that the driver does not see that the controller is present.  I don't 
know enough about the MSClient process to tell whether this is the fault of the 
driver (yuknd.dos) or the configuration of protocol.ini.  That file is 
borrowed from this discussion.  I also added the appropriate lines to 
fdconfig.sys.


I remain stumped.

George




 From: Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com
To: George Brooks truckeetr...@yahoo.com; Discussion and general questions 
about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
 
I can do it this way:

1) configure VMware as Bridge PCnet NIC
2) use the drivers from netbootdisk.com for the driver inside VMware. 
the guy there is making an excelent job of collecting new drivers

It just works...

Alain

Em 19-09-2012 19:53, George Brooks escreveu:
 I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for
 access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop
 (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All
 proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via
 MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to
 print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the
 laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos.

 I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the
 web. In an effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following
 into fdconfig.sys:

 device=c:\net\yuknd.dos

 When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message
 Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over
 this? (The laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more
 highly problematic.)

 Many thanks for sharing your wisdom.

 George

 ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to
 be a duplicate posting.


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Re: [Freedos-user] VMWare, MSClient, Marvell Yukon - controller not found

2012-09-19 Thread George Brooks
Alain,

Thanks for the link.  I'll try to make an iso here.  I downloaded the iso from 
the link you provided, booted it to get:

Processing archive...FILES.HUA
ERROR: Not enough memory
Process aborted
Bad command or file name

More fun to be had with this...

George



 From: Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com
To: George Brooks truckeetr...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare, MSClient, Marvell Yukon - controller not found
 
Yes, use a CD burning software to breate a bootable CD with the 
netbootdisk image. It is explained in the site, or use this:
http://suporte.cosmodata.com.br/downloads/moni/netbootdisk65.iso

You don want the driver for your phisical board, but for one of the 
virtual boards inside VMware.

much easier then what you are trying to do

Alain

Em 19-09-2012 21:54, George Brooks escreveu:
 Thanks for your reply. (Note the addition of the original, apparently
 not sent, subject.)

 While netbootdisk.com looks interesting it is not
 a feasible solution
 here. For one, the machine does not have a floppy drive! Plus, my OS is
 Win7, which does not create bootable floppies.

 I did see that netbootdisk will find the Marvell Yukon card and use the
 same driver that I have. My problem is not that the I can't find the
 right driver. It's that the driver does not see that the controller is
 present. I don't know enough about the MSClient process to tell whether
 this is the fault of the driver (yuknd.dos) or the configuration of
 protocol.ini. That file is borrowed from this discussion
 http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=121970.0;wap. I also
 added the appropriate lines to fdconfig.sys.

 I remain stumped.

 George


 
 *From:* Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com
 *To:* George Brooks truckeetr...@yahoo.com; Discussion and general
 questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:01 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

 I can do it this way:

 1) configure VMware as Bridge PCnet NIC
 2) use the drivers from netbootdisk.com for the driver inside VMware.
 the guy there is making an excelent job of collecting new drivers

 It just works...


 Alain

 Em 19-09-2012 19:53, George Brooks escreveu:
   I'm experimenting with FreeDOS in an effort to find a solution for
   access to a legacy DOS application. The environment is an HP laptop
   (6730s) running Win7 32-bit, VMWare Player v5 and FreeDOS 1.1. All
   proceeds smoothly until I try to gain access to a printer share via
   MSClient. (This is the only way I can see to get the application to
   print.) The challenge occurs when attempting to load the driver for the
   laptop's ethernet card - a Marvell Yukon. The driver is named yuknd.dos.
  
   I've tried a number of configurations based on postings found on the
   web. In an effort to narrow the problem down I entered the following
   into fdconfig.sys:
  
  
 device=c:\net\yuknd.dos
  
   When stepping thru boot, this line results in the error message
   Controller not found. What means, if any, are available to get over
   this? (The laptop also has wireless, but I suspect that is even more
   highly problematic.)
  
   Many thanks for sharing your wisdom.
  
   George
  
   ps: my apologies if my lack of understanding of lists has caused this to
   be a duplicate posting.
  
  
  
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