Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

2019-08-06 Thread Tom Messmer
I appreciate all the suggestions, thanks everyone. 

> On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:59 PM, David McMackins  wrote:
> 
> I will throw in my own experience here in case it is relevant.
> 
> I have a 1999 Sony Vaio with a built in trackpad. If I load ctmouse with
> no external hardware, the trackpad works fine. If then connect an
> external PS/2 mouse, that mouse will work fine too. If, however, I load
> ctmouse with both connected, then I get your symptom of erratically
> moving cursor as well as display glitching.
> 
> 
> Happy Hacking,
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> www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com
> 
> On 8/6/19 2:19 PM, Tom Messmer wrote:
>> Hello, 
>> I have an old HP Pavillion dv6000 laptop that I’ve installed Freedos on. I’m 
>> a unix guy and have very little experience with dos, so bear with me if you 
>> could. Everything installed nicely, and it certainly performs like a champ, 
>> however the Cutemouse driver simply doesn’t work with the touchpad. I’ve 
>> tried flipping various options with Cutemouse including horizontal and 
>> vertical settings, etc with the same outcome: the arrow cursor just flips 
>> out and zips around the screen at random. The bios on this thing has zero 
>> options for the trackpad fyi. 
>> 
>> Is it possible to get a touchpad working with Cutemouse? Any assistance 
>> would be greatly appreciated. 
>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

2019-08-06 Thread David McMackins
I will throw in my own experience here in case it is relevant.

I have a 1999 Sony Vaio with a built in trackpad. If I load ctmouse with
no external hardware, the trackpad works fine. If then connect an
external PS/2 mouse, that mouse will work fine too. If, however, I load
ctmouse with both connected, then I get your symptom of erratically
moving cursor as well as display glitching.


Happy Hacking,

David E. McMackins II
www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com

On 8/6/19 2:19 PM, Tom Messmer wrote:
> Hello, 
> I have an old HP Pavillion dv6000 laptop that I’ve installed Freedos on. I’m 
> a unix guy and have very little experience with dos, so bear with me if you 
> could. Everything installed nicely, and it certainly performs like a champ, 
> however the Cutemouse driver simply doesn’t work with the touchpad. I’ve 
> tried flipping various options with Cutemouse including horizontal and 
> vertical settings, etc with the same outcome: the arrow cursor just flips out 
> and zips around the screen at random. The bios on this thing has zero options 
> for the trackpad fyi. 
> 
> Is it possible to get a touchpad working with Cutemouse? Any assistance would 
> be greatly appreciated. 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

2019-08-06 Thread Tom Ehlert

> I agree about trackpads, they’re awful.  The only port this thing
> has is a USB port and a usb mouse didn’t really fare any better than
> the trackpad, and I don’t think cutemouse supports usb mice either. 

most likely your trackpad is connected to the motherboard via an
internal USB port, just like your keyboard. this stuff is no longer connected
through PS/2 ports.

most 'modern' BIOS support 'legacy' support for keyboard, mouse,
otherwise you wouldn't see any mouse movement at
all.

of course this doesn't help you :(

Tom



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Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

2019-08-06 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 4:14 PM Tom Messmer  wrote:
>
> I agree about trackpads, they’re awful.  The only port this thing has is a 
> USB port and a usb mouse didn’t really fare any better than the trackpad, and 
> I don’t think cutemouse supports usb mice either.

Supporting *anything* in USB in DOS is problematic.  USB didn't exist
when DOS was written.  FreeDOS is designed to reproduce DOS, so
support for stuff that came later mostly isn't there.

I had FreeDOS as part of a multi-boot setup on an ancient Fujitsu
notebook, along with Win2K and a couple of flavors of Linux.  It had a
third party add-on card with two USB2 ports.  I could not get FreeDOS
to see/use them - no drivers.  (Windows and Linux could use the
ports.)

You can get USB->PS/2 adapters that will let you plug in things like
PS/2 mice, but I don't think they would help you.
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Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

2019-08-06 Thread Tom Messmer
I agree about trackpads, they’re awful.  The only port this thing has is a USB 
port and a usb mouse didn’t really fare any better than the trackpad, and I 
don’t think cutemouse supports usb mice either. 

> On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:08 PM, dmccunney  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 3:21 PM Tom Messmer  
> wrote:
>> 
>> I have an old HP Pavillion dv6000 laptop that I’ve installed Freedos on. I’m 
>> a unix guy and have very little experience with dos, so bear with me if you 
>> could. Everything installed nicely, and it certainly performs like a champ, 
>> however the Cutemouse driver simply doesn’t work with the touchpad. I’ve 
>> tried flipping various options with Cutemouse including horizontal and 
>> vertical settings, etc with the same outcome: the arrow cursor just flips 
>> out and zips around the screen at random. The bios on this thing has zero 
>> options for the trackpad fyi.
>> 
>> Is it possible to get a touchpad working with Cutemouse? Any assistance 
>> would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> I don't believe you can do this.  CuteMouse is written to support PS/2
> mice in DOS. I don't think it will see the trackpad.   (Trackpads
> didn't exist in the DOS days).
> Details are at http://cutemouse.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Do you have an actual mouse you can plug in?
> 
> (Speaking personally, I loathe trackpads, and use an actual mouse
> where possible)
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Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

2019-08-06 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 3:21 PM Tom Messmer  wrote:
>
> I have an old HP Pavillion dv6000 laptop that I’ve installed Freedos on. I’m 
> a unix guy and have very little experience with dos, so bear with me if you 
> could. Everything installed nicely, and it certainly performs like a champ, 
> however the Cutemouse driver simply doesn’t work with the touchpad. I’ve 
> tried flipping various options with Cutemouse including horizontal and 
> vertical settings, etc with the same outcome: the arrow cursor just flips out 
> and zips around the screen at random. The bios on this thing has zero options 
> for the trackpad fyi.
>
> Is it possible to get a touchpad working with Cutemouse? Any assistance would 
> be greatly appreciated.

I don't believe you can do this.  CuteMouse is written to support PS/2
mice in DOS. I don't think it will see the trackpad.   (Trackpads
didn't exist in the DOS days).
Details are at http://cutemouse.sourceforge.net/

Do you have an actual mouse you can plug in?

(Speaking personally, I loathe trackpads, and use an actual mouse
where possible)
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[Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

2019-08-06 Thread Tom Messmer
Hello, 
I have an old HP Pavillion dv6000 laptop that I’ve installed Freedos on. I’m a 
unix guy and have very little experience with dos, so bear with me if you 
could. Everything installed nicely, and it certainly performs like a champ, 
however the Cutemouse driver simply doesn’t work with the touchpad. I’ve tried 
flipping various options with Cutemouse including horizontal and vertical 
settings, etc with the same outcome: the arrow cursor just flips out and zips 
around the screen at random. The bios on this thing has zero options for the 
trackpad fyi. 

Is it possible to get a touchpad working with Cutemouse? Any assistance would 
be greatly appreciated. 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

2019-08-06 Thread Jim Hall
> On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 12:15:44PM -0700, Ben Collver wrote:
[.. Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9 ..]
[.. Tcl 8.4.20 ..]
[..]

Thanks Ben!

I've mirrored these versions at the FreeDOS archive on ibiblio. :-)


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