Re: [Freedos-user] C: location

[Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user]

Basically that's because Mac OS contains a hardware abstraction layer which 
separates the updater you're trying to run (and VMWare itself, for that matter) 
from the actual hardware you're running. It would be best to add the files 
you're tying to use to a bootable FreeDOS CD, then boot from that to flash the 
firmware. In that manner the main OS will not be standing gatekeeper and 
blocking your path.

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On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:25 AM, RJ Givens drummerguyservi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I figured that part out. Now my issue is ATIFLASH says there is no card 
> detected.
> Any insight on that?
>
>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Felix G. constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The C: drive does not map directly to a folder on your host machine.
>> What I would suggest, because it worked great for me, is that you
>> create an ISO image containing your files then mount that to your VM
>> as a CD ROM.
>> Note that files you copy off of CD ROM in the DOS context will have
>> the read-only attribute set, which may need to be removed with attrib
>> for some applications.
>> Hope this helps.
>> Best,
>> Felix
>>
>>> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 00:25 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens
>>> drummerguyservi...@gmail.com:
>>> I’ve just installed Freedos 1.2 in VMWare on OSX. Does anyone know where I 
>>> might be able to find the c: drive location?
>>> I need to flash a bios on my video card and need to drop some files in the 
>>> FreeDos C:
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Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

[Jose Antonio Senna]

 Robert Riebisch  said:

  Nevertheless, I was looking for a "pixel painter" 
(= bitmap> manipulation program for PCX, 
GIF, PNG, or JPEG files), which is EVE not.

  How about building on LXPIC ? It is already 
in FreeDOS repository, so probably has no
license issues.
 
 I know it is a viewer, but already has limited
imge manipulation capabilities. Perhaps
some of its routines can be used in an
image manipulation program.

 I used it for viewing images under Lynx
browser;  with LxPic it was possible to 
view the image and return to Lynx in 
less time than was required just to 
launch the DISPLAY viewer recommended 
in Lynx documentation.

 Another advantage is that it can show 
images which bitmap is bigger than
all available RAM in the machine
(very slowly, but much better than not
being able to view  the whole image).



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Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

[Robert Riebisch]

Hi Andrew,

> Robert I am talking out of school here, on so many levels...
> Have you ever heard of EVE (Embedded Vector Editor) from Barry Kauler? 
> https://bkhome.org/archive/goosee/
> Barry hasn't supported his gem since at least 2006, when he left the Windows 
> environment to work almost exclusively on his next project - Puppy Linux. I 
> just tried to download a fresh copy now - lot of ghost links encountered, but 
> I know I have a copy on one of my backup drives, if needed.
> To have this Win32 API working in FreeDOS you would need at least to have HX 
> DOS-Extender on board, I guess? 
> Anyways - just an idea. I'm a bit of a fan of EVE, would be nice to see it 
> getting the sort of attention/use it deserves.

Never heard of EVE, but know Barry from Sphinx C-- and also tried Puppy
once. Nevertheless, I was looking for a "pixel painter" (= bitmap
manipulation program for PCX, GIF, PNG, or JPEG files), which is EVE not.

 links to 
for the GPLed source code, but  is dead ("Server not
found."). Didn't find it anywhere else.

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Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS-license issue (Sideline)

[Robert Riebisch]

Hi Jose,

>>I was unsuccessful to convince makers of NeoPaint
>>(NeoSoft Corporation) or Desktop Paint (Alchemy Mindworks)
>> to release their products under a FOSS license.
> 
> Does any one of them still offer their DOS products
> whatever the license ? NeoPaint used to be shareware,
> but I didn´t see it last time I looked into NeoSoftware site.

Both: You can't get registered DOS versions. Shareware versions are
still available from several sites, of course. But long-term usage would
violate the shareware license.

NeoSoft officials said in May 2019: "NeoPaint for DOS wasn't
specifically included or excluded from our agreement with SinLios, but
our DOS programs are `retired´ and we don't really want them distributed
any more. I'm Sorry."

Alchemy Mindworks officials said in March 2020: "I'm afraid we no longer
have source code for any of our old DOS applications. Sorry we can't be
of more assistance." -- But I still try to convince them to provide the
registered version for free on a "as-is" basis.

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Re: [Freedos-user] C: location

[Felix G.]

Hi Regan,
I'll be happy to assist with that within the constraints of limited
time and resources.
Let's take it to private email from here on out.
Best,
Felix

Am Do., 2. Apr. 2020 um 23:22 Uhr schrieb Regan Russell
:
>
> Hi Felix,
>  I am am app developer. I am working on a bank app. A blind person 
> has threatened to take the bank to a special discrimination court. I am 
> working to fix the accessibility aspects of the app. I got the idea to write 
> a book on accessibility for iOS and Android developers. I might put it on 
> iBooks or approach publishers.
> Can I talk to you about it? Maybe you could be a reviewer?
>
> Regan
>
> 
> From: Felix G. 
> Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2020 8:23 PM
> To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
>
> Hi,
> you may use the boot screen blind, with VoiceOver on the Mac. You can
> start it with cmd+f5.
> I actually am blind so I know it works.
> HTH,
> Felix
>
> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 20:32 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens
> :
> >
> > Ok, so I got ATIFlash to run form
> > Booting by disk,  but it is not seeing the RX580, it is only seeing the 
> > original video card ( have to leave it in otherwise I don’t get the boot 
> > screen when holding down option)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > >> Would that work if I have a second graphics card ?
> > >
> > > To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use
> > > the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server
> > > workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible
> > > to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the
> > > ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had
> > > more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP
> > > graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks.
> > >
> > >> If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB,
> > >> this wouldn’t be an issue.
> > >
> > > Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has
> > > never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went
> > > for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have
> > > to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea
> > > whether that ever has been done successfully yet?
> > >
> > > Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC
> > > anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple
> > > new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?)
> > > for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS
> > > from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put
> > > the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD
> > > should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or
> > > shop whether they let you use their PC for the
> > > task, which should take at most a few hours to
> > > figure out and then just a few minutes to do?
> > >
> > > Regards, Eric
> > >
> > > PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version
> > > of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available.
> > > Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to
> > > find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have?
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

[Andrew Robins]

Robert I am talking out of school here, on so many levels...
Have you ever heard of EVE (Embedded Vector Editor) from Barry Kauler? 
https://bkhome.org/archive/goosee/
Barry hasn't supported his gem since at least 2006, when he left the Windows 
environment to work almost exclusively on his next project - Puppy Linux. I 
just tried to download a fresh copy now - lot of ghost links encountered, but I 
know I have a copy on one of my backup drives, if needed.
To have this Win32 API working in FreeDOS you would need at least to have HX 
DOS-Extender on board, I guess? 
Anyways - just an idea. I'm a bit of a fan of EVE, would be nice to see it 
getting the sort of attention/use it deserves.
HTH

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On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Robert Riebisch wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> 
> > *Powerpaint* (PAINT2)
> > License is unclear. The source code has a copyright notice but does not
> > have a statement that says "you can use this" or similar. Further, contains
> > the SVGA256.BGI driver. But more importantly, It contains many OBJ files
> > without source and several Borland Copyright example files. Too unclear,
> > not something we should distribute.
> 
> I had a look at PAINT2 and it's a real mess! :-(
> 
> Unfortunately, there are not many alternatives:
> 
> 1) I looked through several shareware packages to find something similar
> to Windows Paint or Deluxe Paint, but there's nearly nothing.
> 
> 2) I was unsuccessful to convince makers of NeoPaint (NeoSoft
> Corporation) or Desktop Paint (Alchemy Mindworks) to release their
> products under a FOSS license.
> 
> 3) GrafX2  by
> Guillaume Dorme & Karl Maritaud is GNU GPL v2, but docs and Watcom C +
> TP7 source code names & comments are in French.
> 
> 4) OGE  by
> Daniel Skarda is GNU GPL v2, but docs and TP source code names &
> comments are in Czech.
> 
> 5) VGAPaint 386  by Avery
> Lee is GNU GPL v2, but unstable.
> 
> 6) Grafix
>  or
> 
> (source code) vanished and also uses Borland's BGI files.
> 
> 7) AntiPaint for DOS
> 
> is unusable (to me).
> 
> 8) Master Draw  by Arkham
> Development is under a BSD license
> ,
> but the interface looks a little overloaded, the font is hard to read
> and it is written in QuickBASIC (?). Maybe someone can convert it to
> FreeBASIC?
> 
> Any other ideas?
> 
> Cheers,
> Robert
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