Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Jamie Le Tual]

I just realized the importance of setting up a cross compiler on my linux
machine while I was unzipping the source for openssl and remembered of the
limit of 8.3 filenames :/

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:08, Jamie Le Tual  wrote:

> what was the error when it failed to compile?
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:07, Louis Santillan  wrote:
>
>> That's one thing that has troubled me about Links2.  I've been able to
>> compile it for Mac and Linux but not DOS.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Jamie Le Tual 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it
>> >
>> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
>> >> know of are recent versions of Links.
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Jamie Le Tual]

what was the error when it failed to compile?

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 18:07, Louis Santillan  wrote:

> That's one thing that has troubled me about Links2.  I've been able to
> compile it for Mac and Linux but not DOS.
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Jamie Le Tual 
> wrote:
> >
> > I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:
> >>
> >>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
> >> know of are recent versions of Links.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Louis Santillan]

That's one thing that has troubled me about Links2.  I've been able to
compile it for Mac and Linux but not DOS.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Jamie Le Tual  wrote:
>
> I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:
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>>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
>> know of are recent versions of Links.
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

[Jamie Le Tual]

I would be curious to know which tool chain they used to compile it

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:26, Jose Senna  wrote:

>  The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
> know of are recent versions of Links.
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[Freedos-user] Dillo Web browser

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 The only Web browsers for DOS with TLS support I
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Re: [Freedos-user] Serial port WiFi modems - was: MS-DOS 7.1

[Louis Santillan]

The various Wifi232 variants seem to run about $45-$100USD.  I think
the PiModems w/a $10-$15USD PiZeroW could be made cheaper but no one
seems to be producing prebuilt versions.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:04 PM Eric Auer  wrote:
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>
> Hi DOS people,
>
> those links from Louis are really interesting!
>
> For example the Guru Modem is a device based on the
> tiny ESP32 WROOM computer (actually sold as controller
> for WiFi and Bluetooth, but has plenty of CPU power)
> which has a serial port to connect it to your PC
> and has some modem simulation software installed.
>
> For the PC, it will look like a classic serial
> RS232 dial-up modem, but it will use your WiFi
> to connect to the internet, instead of actually
> connecting your computer to any phone line :-)
>
> As Louis has suggested a whole collection of links
> to various similar products, I wonder which of them
> are pre-assembled and which have to be assembled by
> those who buy them? Also, what are the prices? Have
> DOS users already tested the products? Which ones
> would you recommend? The general idea is very cool,
> although LAN is of course much faster than RS232.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
> PS: I guess 5 Volt from your USB port should have
> enough power for the Guru Modem? Or use a charger.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user]

I have a feeling someone left the group up on a mobile device while in a 
pocket... lol

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> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:36 AM Kai Ketelhut  wrote:
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>> Ml
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>> On 07/12/2020, 18:34 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:
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>>> Stanca
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>>> On 07/12/2020, 18:33 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:
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>> Kai,
>>
>>> ML
>>
>> That does not make any sense.
>>
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>>>
>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>> This is not brevity, this is plain spam. Even if this mailinglist
>> was a chat room, all messages so far have been unintelligible:
>>
>>> 00=
>>>
>>> Sound
>>
>>> 00=
>>
>>> .
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>>> ty_ty
>>>
>>> by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy by 
>>> MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0
>>
>> None of those emails has made any sense yet.
>>
>> Please move your fingers far enough to form actual words
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[Freedos-user] Serial port WiFi modems - was: MS-DOS 7.1

[Eric Auer]

Hi DOS people,

those links from Louis are really interesting!

For example the Guru Modem is a device based on the
tiny ESP32 WROOM computer (actually sold as controller
for WiFi and Bluetooth, but has plenty of CPU power)
which has a serial port to connect it to your PC
and has some modem simulation software installed.

For the PC, it will look like a classic serial
RS232 dial-up modem, but it will use your WiFi
to connect to the internet, instead of actually
connecting your computer to any phone line :-)

As Louis has suggested a whole collection of links
to various similar products, I wonder which of them
are pre-assembled and which have to be assembled by
those who buy them? Also, what are the prices? Have
DOS users already tested the products? Which ones
would you recommend? The general idea is very cool,
although LAN is of course much faster than RS232.

Regards, Eric

PS: I guess 5 Volt from your USB port should have
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Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Karen Lewellen]

I have met a few folks over the years comfortable with that kind of work 
even  while experiencing blindness.
I am not one, which is why I find, and support the talent for my 
professional needs.

Hopefully others will resonate with those ideas.
Frankly I would love to find someone capable of building sshdos with more 
secure dh keys.




On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, Louis Santillan wrote:


If you're a little handy with soldering you could make yourself a
Wifi232 or PiModem.  Alternatively, you can buy Wifi232 or WiModem232
or Gurumodem.  Works like a dialup modem on


Buy
http://biosrhythm.com/?page_id=1453
https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232
https://electronicsisfun.com/gurumodem
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GuruModem-RS-232-Wifi-Modem/224174229752
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ArcaneByte-RS232-WiFi-Wireless-Modem-for-Vintage-Computers/203207668237

Build
https://github.com/stardot/esp8266_modem
http://podsix.org/articles/pimodem/
https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/articles/add-internet-access-to-a-vintage-computer-using-raspberry-pi
https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/7oep2j/instead_of_buying_a_wifi232_i_built_my_own_into_a/
https://www.insentricity.com/a.cl/215/putting-your-retro-computer-on-the-line
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-dial-up-server/
https://lunduke.com/posts/2020-04-20-a/

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:24 AM Karen Lewellen  wrote:


When my engineer is next able to list everything after a visit, I will
share.
Post pandemic restrictions most likely.
We really would like to put freedos on a laptop, I have a thinkpad p3 that
we considered using, but I could never find a  modem card that would work.
add  the lack of firm networking included, and we found Nothing that
freedos provided  that made it worth the test at the time.



On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, Mateusz Viste wrote:


On 06/12/2020 22:31, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Its terrific, have been using it exclusively for years.


That's cool and all, but in what way exactly is it better than FreeDOS?
That's a honest question.

BTW, MS-DOS 2.0 appears to be libre (MIT) nowadays - that could also be a
good fit to some, given how small footprint (much smaller than FreeDOS) it
has.

Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Ralf Quint]

On 12/7/2020 9:35 AM, Kai Ketelhut wrote:

Ml

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Du solltest diesen Unsinn wirklich sein lassen. Das hilf weder Dir noch 
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Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Jerome Shidel]

Hi,

> On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mateusz Viste  wrote:
> 
> Update: this evening I created an AMB reader for PHP. This allows one to host 
> AMB books on a web server and read them with a browser, the conversion being 
> performed on the fly.
> 
> The FreeDOS help that I have earlier converted to AMB can now be read 
> on-line. Here's how it looks like:
> http://ambook.sourceforge.net/samples/phpamb.php?fname=fdhelp.amb
> 
> A link to the above URL is also present on the main page of the AMB project 
> now (at http://ambook.sourceforge.net/ ).
> 
> Mateusz
> 
> 

Looks great.





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Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Robert Riebisch]

Hi Mateusz,

> Update: this evening I created an AMB reader for PHP. This allows one to 
> host AMB books on a web server and read them with a browser, the 
> conversion being performed on the fly.
> 
> The FreeDOS help that I have earlier converted to AMB can now be read 
> on-line. Here's how it looks like:
> http://ambook.sourceforge.net/samples/phpamb.php?fname=fdhelp.amb

I like it very much! :-)

Can we have:
1) Clickable web links, please? E.g., http://www.trumpet.com.au/ at
.
2) A back to home function by clicking on "FreeDOS help system (hhstndrd
1.0.8 en)".
3) A search function.

Cheers,
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Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Louis Santillan]

If you're a little handy with soldering you could make yourself a
Wifi232 or PiModem.  Alternatively, you can buy Wifi232 or WiModem232
or Gurumodem.  Works like a dialup modem on


Buy
http://biosrhythm.com/?page_id=1453
https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232
https://electronicsisfun.com/gurumodem
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GuruModem-RS-232-Wifi-Modem/224174229752
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ArcaneByte-RS232-WiFi-Wireless-Modem-for-Vintage-Computers/203207668237

Build
https://github.com/stardot/esp8266_modem
http://podsix.org/articles/pimodem/
https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/articles/add-internet-access-to-a-vintage-computer-using-raspberry-pi
https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/7oep2j/instead_of_buying_a_wifi232_i_built_my_own_into_a/
https://www.insentricity.com/a.cl/215/putting-your-retro-computer-on-the-line
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-dial-up-server/
https://lunduke.com/posts/2020-04-20-a/

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:24 AM Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>
> When my engineer is next able to list everything after a visit, I will
> share.
> Post pandemic restrictions most likely.
> We really would like to put freedos on a laptop, I have a thinkpad p3 that
> we considered using, but I could never find a  modem card that would work.
> add  the lack of firm networking included, and we found Nothing that
> freedos provided  that made it worth the test at the time.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, Mateusz Viste wrote:
>
> > On 06/12/2020 22:31, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >>  Its terrific, have been using it exclusively for years.
> >
> > That's cool and all, but in what way exactly is it better than FreeDOS?
> > That's a honest question.
> >
> > BTW, MS-DOS 2.0 appears to be libre (MIT) nowadays - that could also be a
> > good fit to some, given how small footprint (much smaller than FreeDOS) it
> > has.
> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

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> On 07/12/2020, 18:34 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:
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>> On 07/12/2020, 18:33 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:
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>>> On 07/12/2020, 18:30 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:

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>
> Kai,
>
> > ML
>
> That does not make any sense.
>
> > Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic
> >
> > Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> This is not brevity, this is plain spam. Even if this mailinglist
> was a chat room, all messages so far have been unintelligible:
>
> > 00=
> >
> > Sound
>
> > 00=
>
> > .
>
> > ty_ty
> >
> > by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy
> by MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0
>
> None of those emails has made any sense yet.
>
> Please move your fingers far enough to form actual words
> and sentences and mail THOSE if you want to say something.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

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  Ml--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 07/12/2020, 18:34 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:

  
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   On 07/12/2020, 18:33 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:
   

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  On 07/12/2020, 18:30 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:
 
  
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On 07/12/2020, 18:18 Eric Auer  wrote:
   
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 > ML

 That does not make any sense.

 > Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic
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 This is not brevity, this is plain spam. Even if this mailinglist
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 > Sound

 > 00=

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 > ty_ty
 >
 > by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy by MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0

 None of those emails has made any sense yet.

 Please move your fingers far enough to form actual words
 and sentences and mail THOSE if you want to say something.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
 Stanca--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 07/12/2020, 18:33 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:

  
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  On 07/12/2020, 18:18 Eric Auer  wrote:
 
   Kai,
  
   > ML
  
   That does not make any sense.
  
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   > Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
  
   This is not brevity, this is plain spam. Even if this mailinglist
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   > Sound
  
   > 00=
  
   > .
  
   > ty_ty
   >
   > by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy by MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0
  
   None of those emails has made any sense yet.
  
   Please move your fingers far enough to form actual words
   and sentences and mail THOSE if you want to say something.
  
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  [Freedos-user][/Freedos-user]--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 07/12/2020, 18:30 Kai Ketelhut  wrote:

  
;
   
   --
   Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic
   
   Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
  
  
   On 07/12/2020, 18:18 Eric Auer  wrote:
   
 Kai,

 > ML

 That does not make any sense.

 > Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic
 >
 > Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

 This is not brevity, this is plain spam. Even if this mailinglist
 was a chat room, all messages so far have been unintelligible:

 > 00=
 >
 > Sound

 > 00=

 > .

 > ty_ty
 >
 > by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy by MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0

 None of those emails has made any sense yet.

 Please move your fingers far enough to form actual words
 and sentences and mail THOSE if you want to say something.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  ; --Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 07/12/2020, 18:18 Eric Auer  wrote:

   Kai,
  
   > ML
  
   That does not make any sense.
  
   > Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic
   >
   > Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
  
   This is not brevity, this is plain spam. Even if this mailinglist
   was a chat room, all messages so far have been unintelligible:
  
   > 00=
   >
   > Sound
  
   > 00=
  
   > .
  
   > ty_ty
   >
   > by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy by MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0
  
   None of those emails has made any sense yet.
  
   Please move your fingers far enough to form actual words
   and sentences and mail THOSE if you want to say something.
  
   Eric
  
  
  
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Eric Auer]

Kai,

> ML

That does not make any sense.

> Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sic
> 
> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

This is not brevity, this is plain spam. Even if this mailinglist
was a chat room, all messages so far have been unintelligible:

> 00=
> 
> Sound

> 00=

> .

> ty_ty
> 
> by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy by 
> MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0

None of those emails has made any sense yet.

Please move your fingers far enough to form actual words
and sentences and mail THOSE if you want to say something.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  ML--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 07/12/2020, 18:11 Mateusz Viste  wrote:

  Update: this evening I created an AMB reader for PHP. This allows one to
   host AMB books on a web server and read them with a browser, the
   conversion being performed on the fly.
  
   The FreeDOS help that I have earlier converted to AMB can now be read
   on-line. Here's how it looks like:
   http://ambook.sourceforge.net/samples/phpamb.php?fname=fdhelp.amb
  
   A link to the above URL is also present on the main page of the AMB
   project now (at http://ambook.sourceforge.net/ ).
  
   Mateusz
  
  
  
  
   On 05/12/2020 18:08, Mateusz Viste wrote:
   > Hello,
   >
   > These past few days I was working on a new hobby project. It is called
   > AMB, and it is a simple hyperlink format that makes it possible to
   > create "books" that are easy to read even on very limited hardware.
   >
   > The "books" can be viewed with a tool named AMB. It is only a few
   > kilobytes big and requires about 80K of available RAM.
   >
   > As a demo, I converted the FreeDOS help today into an AMB book. This is
   > something that I will use as the help tool in the Svarog386 FreeDOS
   > distribution, but perhaps it could be an interesting alternative for
   > vanilla FreeDOS as well. The AMB reader, as well as the format
   > specification and the converted FreeDOS help file can all be downloaded
   > on the project's home page:
   >
   >   http://ambook.sourceforge.net
   >
   > It is still a very much work-in-progress project, but perfectly
   > functional already. I will certainly add a few features during incoming
   > weeks (mouse support, some form of light compression, full-text search,
   > etc).
   >
   > I'd like also to compile the RBIL into an AMB book in some near future.
   >
   > Enjoy.
   >
   > Mateusz
   >
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Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

[Mateusz Viste]

Update: this evening I created an AMB reader for PHP. This allows one to 
host AMB books on a web server and read them with a browser, the 
conversion being performed on the fly.


The FreeDOS help that I have earlier converted to AMB can now be read 
on-line. Here's how it looks like:

http://ambook.sourceforge.net/samples/phpamb.php?fname=fdhelp.amb

A link to the above URL is also present on the main page of the AMB 
project now (at http://ambook.sourceforge.net/ ).


Mateusz




On 05/12/2020 18:08, Mateusz Viste wrote:

Hello,

These past few days I was working on a new hobby project. It is called 
AMB, and it is a simple hyperlink format that makes it possible to 
create "books" that are easy to read even on very limited hardware.


The "books" can be viewed with a tool named AMB. It is only a few 
kilobytes big and requires about 80K of available RAM.


As a demo, I converted the FreeDOS help today into an AMB book. This is 
something that I will use as the help tool in the Svarog386 FreeDOS 
distribution, but perhaps it could be an interesting alternative for 
vanilla FreeDOS as well. The AMB reader, as well as the format 
specification and the converted FreeDOS help file can all be downloaded 
on the project's home page:


   http://ambook.sourceforge.net

It is still a very much work-in-progress project, but perfectly 
functional already. I will certainly add a few features during incoming 
weeks (mouse support, some form of light compression, full-text search, 
etc).


I'd like also to compile the RBIL into an AMB book in some near future.

Enjoy.

Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Karen Lewellen]

When my engineer is next able to list everything after a visit, I will 
share.

Post pandemic restrictions most likely.
We really would like to put freedos on a laptop, I have a thinkpad p3 that 
we considered using, but I could never find a  modem card that would work. 
add  the lack of firm networking included, and we found Nothing that 
freedos provided  that made it worth the test at the time.




On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, Mateusz Viste wrote:


On 06/12/2020 22:31, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Its terrific, have been using it exclusively for years.


That's cool and all, but in what way exactly is it better than FreeDOS? 
That's a honest question.


BTW, MS-DOS 2.0 appears to be libre (MIT) nowadays - that could also be a 
good fit to some, given how small footprint (much smaller than FreeDOS) it 
has.


Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Dillo Web Browser

[Bryan Kilgallin]

Kai:


My experience with Dillo in NetBSD is that it works sometimes and
only on the less-complex web sites. Forget online banking!


I had an old, slow computer. On that I used lightweight software such as 
Dillo. Reasoning that if I only wanted to read say a text page, then 
these sufficed!

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