Re: [Freedos-user] loading other config.sys?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

12-Май-2008 14:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

>> Is it possible to include from one config.sys a file config2.sys and
>> execute the content of config2.sys right after config.sys?

 No. But why you need this?

[...]
EA> You can have a menu system in (fd)config.sys but it has different
EA> syntax than MS DOS config.sys ... Arkady made a patch to support both
EA> FreeDOS and MS DOS syntax but that patch is not in the kernel (guys,
EA> could we add that patch now? Thanks :-)).

 Eric, I update look-and-feel, not syntax. I was send you full
changelog, do you receive it?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Running Descent on fast CPU? / UMBPCI speed problem

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

3-Фев-2004 20:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> How can I run Descent (for DOS) on a fast CPU? Can you recommend
EA> any slowdown program (preferrably using the RTC IRQ which happens
EA> more often than the default 18 Hz timer tick...)?

 There is a such utility, called moslo (search archive moslo123.zip).
Though, don't know, how it will work with (protected mode) Descent.

EA> - Raptor only works if you load neither the UDMA driver nor any
EA>   RAMDISK in plain FreeDOS
EA> - similar for Jazz Jackrabbit

 Probably, protected mode issues.

EA> - I would need that Turbo Pascal 5.x patch which fixes timing on
EA>   fast CPUs (you know, that runtime error 200 or something on REALLY
EA>   fast CPUs and programs simply running too fast on a-bit-fast CPUs),
EA>   got the URL for me? Should be able to patch compiled EXEs, too.

http://fjf.gnu.de/newdelay.pas
http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200/newdelay.pas
http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200/bp7patch.zip
ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/turbopas/rdelay10.zip
http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200/
http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200/download.html
ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/bppatch.zip
http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pas-r200.htm

 For patching executables, me liked TPPATCH from Andreas Bauer.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Still problems with too fast Turbo Pascal

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

4-Фев-2004 13:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> Maybe I did not look well enough, but I could only find patches
EA> which are either for Borland/Turbo Pascal version SEVEN only
EA> or require recompiling the programs or only stop programs from
EA> crashing on REALLY fast CPUs but do not adjust the speed :-(.

 This is hard to fix existing program. And this is very well explained
in text, coming with TPPATCH. Andreas says, that he not tested it with TP6,
but most probably delay() initialization wasn't changed between TP6-TP7. If
you don't found this patcher, I may resend it for you.




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[Freedos-user] DE->English

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Hi!

 What mean "MIT" and "ohne" in Deutch (for example, "MIT Symbios
support"/"ohne Symbios support").




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Re: [Freedos-user] DE->English

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

8-Фев-2004 16:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

BB>   mit = with , ohne = without

 Thank you to all who answered.

BB>   Symbios support? onboard SCSI bios?

 Yes. Some Asus motherboards have built-in Symbios/NCR SCSI and support
for this in BIOS. Currently I search latest BIOS image (with correct LBA
support) for one Asus mb (TXP-4, to be precise) and meet .de server.

 BTW, what needed in BIOS (which INT 13 functions?) for support big
drives in MS-DOS7 and FreeDOS?




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Re: [Freedos-user] DE->English

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

8-Фев-2004 17:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  >>BTW, what needed in BIOS (which INT 13 functions?) for support big
  >>drives in MS-DOS7 and FreeDOS?
BB>   define "Big Disks" please

 7.8+ Gb.

BB>   only thing I understand as big disk is 48bit Logical Block Adressing
BB> (LBA-48) instead of 28bit LBA (128GB).

 This is next barrier and, AFAIK, its breaking is transparent for apps
over BIOS (including DOS). Anyway, is there documented ways to detect, if
LBA48 (and 127+ Gb disks) is supported by BIOS?




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Re: [Freedos-user] re: DE->English

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

8-Фев-2004 17:58 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> FreeDOS and "WinDOwS" both use the BIOS for support for > 8 GB disks
EA> (LBA disk access), at least during boot.

 _DOS_ always uses BIOS.

EA> builtin. Same for Linux, of course. So what you need for LBA disk I/O:
EA> d-1341--BX55AA---

 Well, is AH=1/CX&1=1 on return sufficient for MS-DOS and FreeDOS? How
_I_ should check system for big disks readiness?


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Subject: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and LBA48 (was: DE->English)

EA> Hi, well, if your BIOS only has LBA28, it will tell you that the disk
EA> would be at most 128 GB big. If it has LBA48, it will reach more, but

 Who "it" and how "tell"?




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[Freedos-user] Q from user

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Hi!

 Below question from user. Please, answer directly to him (note: @ in
address replaced by space).

__O\_/_\_/O__
From: Bryce 
Subject: Re: Freedos boot disks -720k-

> B> Where can I find, or how do i make, a 720k freedos bootdisk image?
>  Search ODIN distributive on www.freedos.org.
I'm looking for 720k floppy images, Odin is on a 1440k image.
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[Freedos-user] move

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 I take a look at move31s and move31x archives and have questions:

- what is (empty) move/archiv, move/java, move/source/backup,
  move/source/nextver and move/source/ver30 directories?

- why such strange hierarchy: move/bin, move/doc/move and move/source/ver31?
  As I understand, should be doc/move and source/move.

- why introduce two archives ("s" and "x") if "s" archive contains all files
  (including executables from "x" archive) and "x" archive doesn't contains
  doc/move/*.*?

- there is two editions of GPL: bin/copying (old and with CRLFs) and
  move/doc/move/copying.txt (more old, with LFs only).

- some files marked by RO attribute.

- in compare with v3.0 changed only one (source) file, but timestamps
  changed (to some meaningless value) on all files.

PS: Jim, what you say if archive will contain BIN, TXT/ and SRC/
directories (TXT instead DOC and SRC instead SOURCE)? May you make some
template-archive (with directories and dummy files - .lsm, readme, etc),
which may be used as reference, draft for real distributives?




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[Freedos-user] Q from user

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 Below question from user:

__O\_/_\_/O__
From: "Deepak Lewis" 

  We r building a CD player capable of playing DivX movies for our
  college project. The output is to be shown on a TV. Is there some way u
  can supress the screen display in FreeDos until our program is run from
  autoexec.bat. We cannot have the boot process being displayed on the
  TV. Is it possible to not show these commands on screen??
_
  O/~\ /~\O

I fear, I should answer him that this is impossible. :( I already propose
some time ago that debugging info should be shown only if there some key is
pressed (or, for example, state ScrollLock is turned on).




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[Freedos-user] answer from user about ODIN

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

__O\_/_\_/O__
I've downloades ODIN - and it works!

SB> Today I got a laptop with a BIOS-pwd. For running a CMOS-Reset-Tool I do
SB> need an DOS-environment. So I downloaded the Diskimage from FreeDos. But
SB> now, if I am booting, I can read
SB> FreeDOS_
SB> and nothing more - what should I do???
_
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Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne, PNG, GIF, Unisys Lempel-Ziv-Welch patent expired

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

19-Фев-2004 10:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> I don't know. Perhaps they have a separate plug-in for PNG? But why
>> don't you use GIFs? The Unisys Lempel-Ziv-Welch patent expired 8 months
>> ago (see http://www.unisys.com/about__unisys/lzw)
JH> LZW (used in GIF) is still not patent-free.

 Also, PNG format is better in all aspects and (in most cases) images
there should be more compact. And don't forget: PNG is an open/free format
from scratch, whereas GIF is a property of Compuserve.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne, PNG, GIF, Unisys Lempel-Ziv-Welch patent expired

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

20-Фев-2004 08:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> Also, PNG format is better in all aspects and (in most cases) images there should 
>> be more compact.
LG> Of course, but what can one do if Arachne doesn't support it?

 AFAIK, some time ago Arachne was released under GPL. With tinf (GPLed
and very compact deflate library from Jibz), I think, this shouldn't be hard
to add support for PNG there.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for HIEW 6.11 freeware hex editor (have 4.41!)

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

21-Фев-2004 07:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> Hi, I just tried to mail SEN but the mail bounced. Maybe you know more?
EA> Bounced mail follows:

sen at kemtel.ru
http://webhost.kemtel.ru/~sen

Latest (commercial) version is 6.86, latest freeware (free as beer) version
is 6.11. If you not buy HIEW, you can't use commercial version, because
archive on site contains truncated (not working) executables.

PS: Many times, when I ask Eugeny to fix some bugs, he frighten me, that it
stops DOS version of HIEW at all, though, HIEW works yet under plain DOS
(but bugs not fixed :( ).

PPS: HIEW.EXE in commercial version >300k. This is because there is dual
executable (both DOS MZ and OS/2 LX). Beware: when cutting off LX part by
DEXEM (and remaining only 110k of MZ part), then SS:SP in header points
outside of program image - this is (very old) bug in DEXEM.




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Re: [Freedos-user] re: Who wants to hear something funny?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

25-Фев-2004 03:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> PS: Our FAT32 LBA boot sector does not REALLY use the "FAT1x root directory
EA> entries"
EA>   value BUT it assumes it to be zero

 But for FAT32 this field _should_ be zero.

EA>   (it interprets the "number of FATs" value
EA>   as 32bit value (lazy coding,

 No. movzx is one byte longer, than mov.

EA>   we believed that the following word with the FAT1x
EA>   root directory entries would always be 0...).
EA>   Luckily Arkady already fixed that by using MOVZX ..., BYTE ... when
EA>   reading the number of FATs value.

 You may test my boot sector right now (I may send it to you privately),
but I not publish it yet, because currently I adapting SYS.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Using FreeDOS on a disk image for a bootcd and a few other tricks

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

5-Мар-2004 09:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicholas Basso) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

NB> I need to find out if there's a way I can use FreeDOS's sys command to write
NB> a floppy bootsector to say a file?

 SYS a: bootsec.fil




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Re: [Freedos-user] CD not accessible

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Hi!

8-Мар-2004 23:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BB> search for VIDE-CDD.SYS. it's most stable vendor-supplied ATAPI
BB> cdrom-driver.

 This name is usually used for driver from OTI (Oak Technologies), which
makes chipset, used in many (most) CD-ROMs.




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[Freedos-user] Q from user

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Hi!

 Below question from user. Please, answer directly to him (note: @ in
address replaced by space):

__O\_/_\_/O__
From: "Jeff Worne" 

I've just installed FreeDOS using Virtual PC.  I'm trying to install an old DOS
game (Crusader) but keep getting the following error:

 CDRcache flush: IOCTL read media change 00ff CDRcache flush: IOCTL read media
hange 00ffException
14
AX=3006  BX=0A7A  CX=0278  DX=  SP=063E  BP=0634  SI=21A7
DI=0A2E
DS=0010  ES=0010  SS=19C8  CS=0008  IP=23DB  Flags=3006
Error=0002

I have access to the CDRom drive, but I can't seem to run anything off of
it.  Any advice?
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[Freedos-user] BOOTFIX 1.2

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 Next version of BOOTFIX (1.2) placed on site of Michael Devore
(ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/bootf12.zip). You may use this
utility at least to view drives properties, but it also diagnoses the
properties if they are valid.

 In next versions will be addeded support to reading boot sector from
files (for example, from volume image) and possibility to fix some boot
sector inconsistenices (for example, not-defined geometry or non-zero root
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[Freedos-user] bootfix 1.3

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Hi!

 New version of bootfix prepared. Now it checks both default and current
BPBs and compares boot record with current, not default BPB. Also, under
NT-family, where direct disk access not implemented, bootfix will say error
about boot sector reading error. With help of Michael this edition placed at
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Re: [Freedos-user] MEMA / MEM /EMM386 error

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

17-Мар-2004 13:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BB> device=emm386.exe noems
BB> mema /e -> MEM: error: EMM call 41h

 This is because EMM returns no page frame. Well... May be, this
shouldn't be an error (I remember someone says that we may work with EMS
without page frame). Wait a moment, right now I try to make workaround for
this.

BB> mem /e  -> MEM: EMS internal error ; EMS Driver not installed in system

 :)

BB> MS MEM.EXE is satisfatied, but cannot detect amount of XMS :(
BB> (see attached file,

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Re: [Freedos-user] MEMA / MEM /EMM386 error

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

17-Мар-2004 13:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BB> device=emm386.exe noems
BB> mema /e -> MEM: error: EMM call 41h

 Well, now MEMA supports EMS configuration without page frame.

 Well, I try with QEMM and MS-EMM: with QEMM for "frame=none" and
"noems" there is no EMS detected, with MS-EMM for "frame=none" EMS is
detected (with "noems" no EMS is detected), though, this configuration not
liked by NCACHE2 (it says about error 80h for function 47h).

 If you wish to test this my new edition, I may send it for you.




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Re: [Freedos-user] some questions about freedos with a xt

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Hi!

19-Мар-2004 09:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Maussner) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MM> - mema just dont output annything.. no error, too.. just a free line and
MM> then
MM> back to the prompt. (what can i use to show the free memory)

 If this is mine MEM, may I send you testing edition, which helps
isolate the problem?




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[Freedos-user] Disk Editor

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 Thanks to Bernd (he gives me URL), I try the Disk Editor by W0rm. First
try: looks like there used 8x8 fonts (and selected 640x200 mode) - not nice.
Secondly, WDE tries to show boot record as FAT32, even on FAT16.




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[Freedos-user] bootfix 1.4

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 With help of Michael Devore, on his site placed version 1.4 of BOOTFIX.
This version is now compilable both by Borland C and OpenWatcom. It shows
slightly more information (to ease using logs even without dumps), before
reading BPB added reseting disk (look like this is sometime required for
FreeDOS, when applied to removable media) and there are other minor changes.
Thanks for Jim Lilly for his long efforts in testing bootfix in different
environments.

 Place is usual: .

 In next edition may/should be added possibility to check boot sector
inside files-disk images, then may be added possibility to fix some minor
inconsistencies in boot record (like undefined geometry fields or nonzero
root_entries field).

PS: Looks like Jim Hall also mirrors bootfix utility on ibiblio:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/
Jim, when (and if) you mirror version 1.4, please, notify me. Also, please,
remove older versions (bootfix1 and bootf12), because they are preliminary
editions.




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Re: [Freedos-user] xms16, xms32

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Hi!

6-Апр-2004 00:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dmitri) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

D> How do I enable to load anything to XMS16 and XMS32?

 See INT 2F/4300 and INT 2F/4310 in RBIL. Read for description XMS
.

 To "enable" XMS you should load HIMEM.SYS in config.sys.

D> Another question:
D> "Can not set environment variable
D> Environment full?"
D> How do I fix it?

 Use option /E for command.com in config.sys. For example:

shell=command.com /e:2048 /p




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Re: [Freedos-user] wde disk editor / Arkady

[Arkady V.Belousov]

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10-Апр-2004 23:17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WЬrm) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> try: looks like there used 8x8 fonts
>> (and selected 640x200 mode) - not nice.
W> It doesn't use a graphics mode - it uses text mode 80x43, since 80x25 is
W> not big enough to fit all the information...what's wrong with this?

 I mean _text_ mode with 8x8 (not 8x16) fonts. As I understand,
something related to INT 10/AX=1200/BL=3.

W> Are non-english 8x8 fonts well supported?

 Don't remember, if you send me link to wde, then I retest it.

>> Secondly, WDE tries to show boot record
>> as FAT32, even on FAT16.
W> It shows all possible fields for bootsectors;

 This is wrong, because may force user to think that there is FAT32.
Also, BOOTSECINFO structure (with boot sector extended signature, label, FS
type string) is placed in different places for FAT1x and FAT32. BTW, you may
look into BOOTFIX.H from my BOOTFIX package - I hope, you find there
definition for boot sector.

W> since the fat type changes based on those values - should it
W> avoid displaying all values and why?

 Because FAT1x doesn't have values, which have FAT32.




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Re: [Freedos-user] ArcadeOS / there seems to be a porblem (installation)

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

13-Апр-2004 23:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maus) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

JM> Okay, so I've started the install, and everything's going sorta okay,
JM> except.. well, it's bizarre.

 Do you download latest kernel from freedos.sf.net? Do you download
latest HIMEM and EMM386 (announces for latest versions should be available
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Re: [Freedos-user] Writing Utilities for FreeDOS

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24-Апр-2004 18:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maus) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

JM> Also, do I need a native FreeDOS environment to compile in, or can I
JM> cross-compile with gcc?

 No, you can't. Also as with VC and BCB - all them don't support 16-bit
target platform.

JM> Also also, is there a good IDE that'll run in Windows XP,

 Yes, OpenWatcom includes one.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Defrag is very slowww

[Arkady V.Belousov]

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10-Май-2004 13:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> things: /r needs a progress info like "printf("Scanning sector %lu of
EA> %lu\r"...)"

 Bug report for OW:

__O\_/_\_/O__
- when stdout directed to a console device, then it should it unbuffered
  (unlike stdin, which may be line buffered if it a console device): with
  buffering, redrawing current line with "\r" doesn't (properly) works.
_
  O/~\ /~\O

Solution (place somewhere at start of main()):

__O\_/_\_/O__
#ifdef __WATCOMC__
   /* Unlike BC, which unbuffers stdout if it is a device, OpenWatcom 1.2
  line buffers stdout; this prevents "rotator" trick based on output
  of "\r" and writing new line over previous. To make rotator work
  we unbuffer stdout manually:
   */
   setbuf (stdout, NULL);
#endif
_
  O/~\ /~\O




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Re: [Freedos-user] "PNG" files in DOS

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

9-Май-2004 00:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lucas Pedrosa) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

LP>   Does anybody know of any program for DOS that can
LP> convert PNG graphics to other more common formats, such as BMP, GIF or PCX?

http://www.pictview.com/pictview.zip
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/src/
ftp://swrinde.nde.swri.edu/pub/png/applications/
ftp://ftp.silicon-alley.com/pub/DOS/
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA010446/b2p-home/archives/

LP>   Else, where can I get the format spec?

__O\_/_\_/O__
RFC 1950, v3.3 (1996/05)
 ZLIB Compressed Data Format Specification

RFC 1951, v1.3 (1996/05)
 DEFLATE Compressed Data Format Specification

RFC 1952, v4.3 (1996/05)
 GZIP file format specification

RFC 2083, v1.0 (1997/03)
 PNG (Portable Network Graphics) Specification

PNG 1.2 (1999/07)
 PNG (Portable Network Graphics) Specification
 Extensions to the PNG 1.2 Specification, Version 1.2.0
_
  O/~\ /~\O

http://www.libpng.org/
http://www.gzip.org/
ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/
ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/src/
ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/images/
ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/documents/
ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/documents/zlib/zdoc-index.html
ftp://ftp.uu.net/pub/archiving/zip/zlib/

__O\_/_\_/O__
PNG web site

   There is a World Wide Web site for PNG at
   http://www.cdrom.com/pub/png/. This is a central location for
   current information about PNG and PNG-related tools.
_
  O/~\ /~\O
__O\_/_\_/O__
[RFC-1950]
   Deutsch, P. and J-L. Gailly, "ZLIB Compressed Data Format
   Specification version 3.3", RFC 1950, Aladdin Enterprises,
   May 1996.
   ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1950.txt

[RFC-1951]
   Deutsch, P., "DEFLATE Compressed Data Format Specification version
   1.3", RFC 1951, Aladdin Enterprises, May 1996.
   ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1951.txt
_
  O/~\ /~\O
__O\_/_\_/O__
3. References

   [1] Deutsch, L.P.,"GZIP Compressed Data Format Specification",
   available in ftp://ftp.uu.net/pub/archiving/zip/doc/

   [2] Thomas Boutell, "PNG (Portable Network Graphics) specification",
   available in ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/documents/

   [3] Deutsch, L.P.,"DEFLATE Compressed Data Format Specification",
   available in ftp://ftp.uu.net/pub/archiving/zip/doc/

   [4] Fletcher, J. G., "An Arithmetic Checksum for Serial
   Transmissions," IEEE Transactions on Communications, Vol. COM-30,
   No. 1, January 1982, pp. 247-252.

   [5] ITU-T Recommendation X.224, Annex D, "Checksum Algorithms,"
   November, 1993, pp. 144, 145. (Available from
   gopher://info.itu.ch). ITU-T X.244 is also the same as ISO 8073.
_
  O/~\ /~\O
__O\_/_\_/O__
3. References

   [1] "Information Processing - 8-bit single-byte coded graphic
   character sets - Part 1: Latin alphabet No.1" (ISO 8859-1:1987).
   The ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1) character set is a superset of 7-bit
   ASCII. Files defining this character set are available as
   iso_8859-1.* in ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/png/documents/

   [5] Gailly, J.-L., GZIP documentation, available as gzip-*.tar in
   ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/

   [6] Sarwate, D.V., "Computation of Cyclic Redundancy Checks via Table
   Look-Up", Communications of the ACM, 31(8), pp.1008-1013.

   [7] Schwaderer, W.D., "CRC Calculation", April 85 PC Tech Journal,
   pp.118-133.

   [8] ftp://ftp.adelaide.edu.au/pub/rocksoft/papers/crc_v3.txt,
   describing the CRC concept.
_
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: "PNG" files in DOS

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

9-Май-2004 05:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
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EA> PNG is a pretty complex format,

 It smart, not "very complex". Most its complex part is compression
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: lbacache

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30-Апр-2004 17:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Quiroga) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>>> CPU Type Tillanook-MMX
RQ> Sorry is Tillamook-MMX
>> Strange CPU unless you meant Intel Pentium III Tilla-something... Is it

 Tillamook is a mobile version (TCP/MMC package) of P55 (first Pentium
with MMX). Was 133-266 MHz. For Pentium III there was Tualatin (latest PIII
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RE: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS beta9 release candidate 5.

[Arkady V.Belousov]

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3-Май-2004 02:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mika Salakka) wrote to
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MS> As I understand it, FreeDOS' support for FAT32 is limited, though, but I
MS> could be dead wrong on that one, too.

 FD suppors FAT32 completely.




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Re: [Freedos-user] cdrom disc removed but still accessible

[Arkady V.Belousov]

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15-Май-2004 01:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BA HCL) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BH> I get a list of valid drives by probing the drives in my system with:
BH> mov ah,4Eh
BH> mov al,XX  ; XX=drive {1..26}
BH> mov dx,filespec  ; A:\*.*
BH> int 21h

 Bad way: try to clean the diskette and you find no specifications.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Too many files ...

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16-Май-2004 20:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Massimiliano Chini) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MC> I have a problem with a dos progam. It start but after some work I recive
MC> the error: "Too many files at address 1234:5678"
MC> I have already modified config.sys:
MC> FILES = 200

 Which program? How you work with it? What happen after this message?
Note: kernel doesn't contains such message, so, this is application
message. While we don't know what app you mean, no one even may suggest what
happen wrong inside your program.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Too many files ...

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17-Май-2004 07:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Massimiliano Chini) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>>  Which program?
MC> It is an old program for scentific calulations. It was written in 1985.
-^^^---^^^

>> How you work with it?
MC> I make a boot floppy with FreeDos 9rc5 and FreeDos 9rc3. I used Windows95
MC> too, but I have the same result

 Ie., trouble only in program itself: it was written by brain-damaged
programmers, which rely on some DOS-related tricks (1985 - MS-DOS 3.3?),
which are not work under newer DOSes. For example, I know program, which
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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386.exe

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17-Май-2004 21:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> I could go back to HTML style to get nice formatting, but then you'd have to fight 
>> off Eric Auer for me, so if you want to do the battle, let me know who wins and 
>> I'll change or not, accordingly.  What I won't do is change away from using the 
>> world-standard multi-platform Eudora after ten+ years along with a few million 
>> other people.  Perhaps that's arrogant or petty or annoying, but it's my line in 
>> the sand as far as a compromise there.
BB> do you see above as 1 long line? I do.

 Me too. My mailer automatically wraps original long lines, but wrapping
for quoted long lines I turned off (because quotation will be mixed with
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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386.exe

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17-Май-2004 14:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to
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>>as always, your message appears as 1 long line. Very wide. Manually quoting now..
MD> wins and I'll change or not, accordingly.  What I won't do is change away
MD> from using the world-standard multi-platform Eudora after ten+ years along
MD> with a few million other people.

 Do you mean, that Eudora can't "hardly" wrap long lines?! I don't
beleive. :)




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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386.exe

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17-Май-2004 16:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

as always, your message appears as 1 long line. Very wide. Manually quoting now..
>>MD> wins and I'll change or not, accordingly.  What I won't do is change away
>>MD> from using the world-standard multi-platform Eudora after ten+ years along
>>MD> with a few million other people.
>> Do you mean, that Eudora can't "hardly" wrap long lines?! I don't
>>beleive. :)
MD> I have no idea what Eudora is doing, the e-mails look okay to me going out
MD> with plain style.  By the way, your original quote-back was not wrapped and

- original (unqoted) letter my mailer automatically wraps (when viewed or
  when answered).
- quotes in viewed/answered letter are untouched. Thus, if someone answers
  to your letter (and not _manually_ edits your text), then I see very long
  (outside screen borders) lines.

Sometime I manually edit (your) quotes, when answer to letters (for example,
if I answer to letter of Eric, which answers to you), but in last answer to
Bernd I remain your long line untouched.

MD> indented, and Bernd's was, so what does that mean?

MD> This all would be a good deal easier if sundry people weren't taking this
MD> silly "HTML-email-is-evil, my extra bandwidth bill is .238 more
MD> euros/dollars when HTML is used,  my billable time to scan past a few extra
MD> lines costs an additional 3 zillion zloty's" attitude.

 Don't forget about time (to receive and process HTML letters), which
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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386.exe

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18-Май-2004 12:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to
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>>no big problem.
MD> Alright, I changed to hard CR's,

 I look at source of your letter (which I answer) - no, there are no
hard CRs inside paragraphs. :) :(




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Re: [Freedos-user] Configuration files help

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11-Июн-2004 17:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johnson Lam) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>>CTMOUSE
JL> LH CTMOUSE can squeeze some base memory

 Wrong. When CTMOUSE loads itself up, it does this better. At least,
because enivronment will never make hole before CTMOUSE in upper memory.




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Re: [Freedos-user] [Crusader No Remorse] FreeDOS Virtual PC on OSX - cant save

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12-Июн-2004 19:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dominik Pich) wrote to
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DP> I can run it with sound just fine but everytime I try to save the game,
DP> it quits to dos with the following Error:
DP> FILE.C Line 631
DP> Unable to create file.

 This message is application internal and there is not enough
information what happen inside the program. Only those, who have consequent
sources, may say what wrong.

DP> (Not Sure about the line no.) Any idea!?

 Someone with good code tracing expirience may receive program from you
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Re: [Freedos-user] Configuration files help

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12-Июн-2004 21:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Davison) wrote to
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RD> Does FreeDOS not have emm386.exe or dpms.exe?

 DPMS.EXE is is proprietary Novell program with implementation of DPMS,
which was never be common. EMM386.EXE for FD exists, see the links on the
www.freedos.org.

RD> FreeDOS kernel version 1.1.33 (Build 2033) [Jan 31 2004}

 Very old kernel, update it to 2035 from freedos.sf.net.

RD> Segment   Size   Name Type
RD> ---   --  -
RD>0E9C  128   NWCDEX |environment
RD>0EA562256   NWCDEX |program
RD>1DE2 3312   

 Looks like you use old version of MEM. :) Update it from
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Re: [Freedos-user] Good C compiler for FreeDOS?

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21-Июн-2004 22:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karim) wrote to
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K> stuff or extraordinary Libs needed. So I hope I can compile it with
K> DJGPP or Turbo C. What do you think? Which compiler should I try to work
K> with these unix based sources?

 OpenWatcom (www.openwatcom.org)?

K> I don`t know much about FreeDOS C programming, but I cannot use the
K> makefile, can I?

 Can.

K> Has anyone a clue, which compiler switches are required?

 Makefiles processed by MAKE utility, not by compiler itself.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Introductory questions about ancient dBase II and FreeDOS

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3-Июл-2004 16:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacobs Shannon) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

JS> The first question regards compatibility of FreeDOS with ancient dBase II.
JS> Is there anyone who can speak to this issue?

 Why to speak? Just run dBase and see if it works or not. (I doubt that
someone tests dBase II either with FreeDOS or latest MS-DOS, this is very
ancient software and may be incompatible with many things).

JS> (FCB support is only one of the constraints.)

 FCBs are supported.

JS> The second question is the most convenient way to access it from Windows XP.

 You can't. Windows XP doesn't allows to run other OS inside it. You may
only run machine emulator (Bochs, VMware) and run any other OS inside this
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Freedos-user digest, Vol 1 #180 - 3 msgs

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

6-Июл-2004 08:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>>From: "Arkady V.Belousov"
>>Date: Sun,  4 Jul 2004 16:41:51 +0400 (MSD)
>>Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Introductory questions about ancient dBase II
>>JS> The second question is the most convenient way to access it from Windows XP.
>> You can't. Windows XP doesn't allows to run other OS inside it. You may
>>only run machine emulator (Bochs, VMware) and run any other OS inside this
>>emulator.
re> Tell me please -- does this blurb tell me that I CANNOT use the FreeDOS
re> programs under Windows XP!!! What a waste of all your efforts!

 You _may_ run under XP _any_ DOS _program_ (including writing specially
for FreeDOS), you can't run under XP FreeDOS itself (also as any other OS:
DR-DOS, Linux, Mac OS, etc).




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Re: [Freedos-user] lredir issue (again I think!)

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7-Июл-2004 09:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luigi D. C.) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

LDC> Sorry of annoying with an old question but can someone explain me how
LDC> the situation is, before I do all works to upgrade FreeDos.

 You should definitely upgrade FreeDOS kernel, especially this is very
easy task - just replace kernel.sys and command.com. You may find latest
official kernel at http://freedos.sf.net/. Also, you may try my edition with
some fixes and improvements (get it from the Lucho site - compiled kernel
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Re: [Freedos-user] Version reporting question

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18-Июл-2004 14:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (16 BIT) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

1B> Sometimes I have to use CALLVER to run a program. My question is:
1B> What version number does FreeDOS report?

 Unless you use VERSION= in config.sys (bigfixed in 2035a), with FAT32
support FreeDOS reports 7.1, without this - 5.0.
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Re: [Freedos-user] features of FreeDOS vs. MS/PC-DOS: roadmap ideas

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

19-Июл-2004 03:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> is at best simplistic (okay, ClamAV ClamScan is not ;-)),
EA> our HIMEM does not load parts of itself to HMA,

 FD-HIMEM under FreeDOS uses 2.03k of low memory, MS-HIMEM - 47.8k. Ant
this is not much more, than 1.14k of MS-HIMEM under MS-DOS.

EA> make HIMEM load part of itself to HMA (by the way, EMM386 could conceivably
EA> move itself to UMB...),

 FD-EMM386 uses 2.54k of low memory. MS-EMM386 uses 3.04k of low memory
plus 5.15k (14Ah para) hidden from UMB.




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Re: [Freedos-user] features of FreeDOS vs. MS/PC-DOS: roadmap ideas

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

19-Июл-2004 14:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> FD-HIMEM under FreeDOS uses 2.03k of low memory, MS-HIMEM - 47.8k. Ant
>>this is not much more, than 1.14k of MS-HIMEM under MS-DOS.
BB> as told, the 47.8KB usage is a bug in MS's kernel (IO.SYS , dos 7.10,
BB> Win95OSR2..Win98SE),

 I mean FreeDOS kernel.

BB> Arkady, do you still need compiling instructions for FreeCOM?

 Why? Instead downloading and compiling all FreeCOM sources me enough
one already compiled executable. Especially because I don't plan to
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[Freedos-user] Re: [Freedos-devel] Small EMM386 update & call for bugs

[Arkady V.Belousov]

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22-Июл-2004 13:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

MD> were enabled by the last EMM386 change.  The SoundBlaster drivers hook
MD> EMM386's interrupt descriptor table, as well as its GDT (per previous
MD> release remarks) and redirect all INT 3's (debug interrupt) to a general
MD> protection fault with error code 1ah IF an application is running in
MD> virtual 8086 mode.  As a result, any attempts to run an application under a
MD> Why do the SoundBlaster drivers do this?  No idea, in the absence of a
MD> SoundBlaster developer here to interrogate, the code I traced the problem
MD> to just looks really stupid.

 I suggest, this is trying of Creative developers to prevent
disassembling Creative programs to "stole" their code. So called,
"anti-debugging tricks". Paranoia of some dumb peoples (especially from
media industry) often is crazy thing, which is out of any sense.




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Re: [Freedos-user] [anounce] move 3.2

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

27-Июл-2004 23:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BB> I have no idea if Arkady's development-kernel fixes the kernel-side of
BB> the bug Imre talks about.

 Not yet. I suggest, I know _how_ to fix this, but this touches fatfs.c,
which I not proceed yet. May be, Bart?




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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: ODIN 0.70

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6-Авг-2004 04:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Lumpkin) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

GL> autoexec.bat
GL> 
GL> @echo off
GL> set PATH=A:
GL> set temp=A:
GL> set tmp=A:

set temp=a:\
set tmp=a:\
path a:\

 Note absolute (not relative) path ("A:" mean current directory on the
A: drive). Also, PATH statement looks better in shorter form. :)

GL> config.sys
GL> ~~~
GL> LASTDRIVE=Z
GL> BUFFERS=20

 This is default.

GL> FILES=40
GL> DOS=HIGH,UMB
GL> DOSDATA=UMB

numlock off
break on
dos high,umb
dosdata umb
country ...
lastdrive z
;buffers 16
stacks 0,0
files 40
fcbs 1
device himem.sys
device emm386.exe ram i=b000-b800
; NOTE: for MS-EMM386 should be used "i=b000-b7ff"
shellhigh command.com /p /e:1024
; big environment is required, if you is programmer,
; else you may reduce 1024 to 256 or 128

GL> 12?DEVICE=A:\HIMEM.EXE

 I prefer to omit absolute pathes here - else you can't copy config.sys
to other drives (say, C:). Ie.:

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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Serial port card

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3-Авг-2004 19:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Price) wrote to Eric Auer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> I assume that given the right BIOS CMOS setup the PCI card will
>> simply work with all DOS programs.
JP> True, but how does a DOS program know what IRQ and port to
JP> use?  Can it use one of the predefined ones(4,3,4,3 &
JP> 2e8,3e8,2f8,3f8) or will it be some other unusual combo?

 By default, UART IO addresses you may get from BIOS data area at 0:400
(four word for four UARTs). IRQ usually assumed: COM1=COM3=IRQ4,
COM2=COM4=IRQ3. Unfortunately, there is not well known standard way, how to
detect real assigned IRQ to (legacy) hardware, but in some cases this is
possible. For example, COMTEST from CuteMouse package (tries to) detect
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Re: [Freedos-user] serial and parallel port thro' dosemu

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1-Авг-2004 15:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasad Mehendale) wrote to freedos
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PM> Can anyone guide me to access serial and parallel ports using freedos in
PM> dosemu?

copy file prn
copy file aux

Here "pren" and "aux" are drive names of first printer port (LPT1) and first
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Re: [Freedos-user] Will FreeDOS work from a primary slave partition?

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Hi!

30-Июл-2004 21:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rakhesh Sasidharan) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

RS> My primary master drive is completely filled -- with win 98, win xp,
RS> freebsd, and linux -- but I have a primary slave drive that is kinda
RS> empty and I was wondering if I can install FreeDOS there.

 You can.

RS> first. :) If I remember correctly, MS DOS has a limitation that it must
RS> be the first partition on the primary master drive ... right?

 No. It perfectly starts from _any_ _primary_ (not logical) _active_
(marked as bootable) partition.

RS> If FreeDOS does work from a primary slave drive, does it have to be on
RS> the first primary partition? What about other drives (secondary master/
RS> slave)?

1. Some BIOSes in BIOS Setup allows to point boot order. If there is "D",
   then you may boot from secondary disk (disk, not partition! BIOS doesn't
   knows about partitions). If not, you should use external boot manager,
   which will call boot code from required boot sector.

2. FreeDOS' boot code accepts from BIOS information about disk, from which
   it loaded, so it may startup kernel.sys from any disk, which may be
   booted by BIOS (or boot loader).

3. kernel.sys searches (fd)config.sys on current drive, which is (at
   startup) always C:, which assigned to primary active partition on first
   disk, so configuration files in any case should be placed here.

BTW, what if FreeDOS will search (fd)config.sys not on C:, but on real
bootable partition? Kernel knows which disk was used to boot (currently not
preserved - at start of main.c:FreeDOSmain() LoL->BootDrive initialized to
1..3 for A:,B: and C:), and initdisk.c:ReadAllPartitionTables() may compute,
which partition is booted from boot drive, so before calling DoConfig()
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Will FreeDOS work from a primary slave partition?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

10-Авг-2004 02:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> you can do even more: with a boot loader (lilo, grub, WinXP one...)
EA> you can boot FreeDOS from any partition on any sane int 13h device
EA> which is in FAT12/16/32 format. HOWEVER, the kernel will always search
EA> the config file on A: (if booted from ANY floppy) or C: (if booted from
EA> ANY harddisk), NOT on the current drive.

 But if you set (with help of SYS CONFIG) DLASORT=1 (to sort disks by
drive order), then FreeDOS will assign C: to primary active partition on
_real_ drive, not on first drive.

EA> The bad point: You need at least 1 file on C: even if the rest of
EA> FreeDOS is installed on another harddisk drive letter. Together with

 Why?

EA> Tyler I recently developed a quick and dirty patch where the config
EA> file can contain a (processed in "0th pass") BOOTDRIVE=X line which
EA> makes FreeDOS select drive X: and load the config file from there for
EA> the other passes.

 Ie. you in any case should have config.sys on C:, thus you required two
config.sys-es.

EA> Trying to find the partition which contained the
EA> kernel would be a bonus but if the search FAILS, there must still be the
EA> fallback "search config file on C:".

 Not need to search "partition with kernel" (especially because such
search also may be false positive), better to make boot partition as
current. This is enough to load (fd)config.sys from there, because it opened
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Will FreeDOS work from a primary slave partition?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

10-Авг-2004 16:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BB> I remember instances with the PowerQuest BootMagic program (a bootloader)
BB> where problems occurred. You could set multiple primary partitions active.
BB> Disk1, multiple primary partitions, FAT filesystem.
---^^^

 Note: some disk managers place records in the partition table in
reverse order, so result of drive letter assignment is unpredictable.

BB> Say primary partition 2 contains MSDOS..but..you also make primary
BB> partition 1 visible.
BB> In that case, you boot from primary partition #2 (active), but primary
BB> partition #1 is actually C (#2 will be D:).

 Hm. Which version of MS-DOS you mean? Unfortunately, nowhere clearly
documented, which partition will be C: under MS-DOS - first primary
partition or first _active_ primary partition.

BB> Thus, MSDOS failed to find COMMAND.COM

 Does it present on C:?

BB> Does FreeDOS kernel handle this situation?

 No special handling, just place command.com into C:.




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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos can't start-up

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13-Авг-2004 09:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

rcs> I'm the first time FreeDos user, my company asked me to evaluate the
rcs> FreeDos, but encountered some difficulties during start-up.
rcs>   FreeDOS HIMEM64 3.11 [Apr 09 2004] (c) 1995, Till Gerken 2001-2004

 Firstly, begin to update to latest software:

- kernel: freedos.sf.net
- himem & emm386: ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386.zip




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[Freedos-user] Q from user

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Hi!

 I get question from user. Please, answer directly to him (note: @ in
address replaced by space):

__O\_/_\_/O__
From: "Burrell Jim (ext)" 
Subject: Installing FreeDOS

I recently bought a tablet PC.  It has no disk drives of any kind and no
OS.  I found that if I plug a Sandisk FlashCard into the pcmcia slot, it will
recognize the card.  I think if I can somehow install freedos on the card it
will boot from it.  How can I put the card in another PC, install freedos, make
the flash card bootable, and then put the card in the tablet PC?  I have a 4MB
and a 20MB flash card.
_
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Re: [Freedos-user] two questions

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Hi!

25-Авг-2004 18:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasad Mehendale) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

PM> 1.  I tried to play a game "gorilla.bas" on freedos with qbasic. It runs
PM> veryslow. Is it exepcted due to some shortcomings of freedos
PM> or I have to modify certain configuration ?

 What mean "slow"? Is it slower than under MS-DOS? And which hardware
you have (CPU, I mean)?

PM> 2.  Are Freedos-drivers for "winmodem" available on net? I want to use a
PM> 56.6k   soft-modem with Arachne.

 Unfortunately, you can't use _any_ _win_modem under any DOS, because
such stump of real modems require software support and their developers
distribute usually only drivers for Windows. With most winmodems you even
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[Freedos-user] Q from user (about UDMA)

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 Below question from user. Please, answer directly for him (note: @ in
address replaced by space):

__O\_/_\_/O__
From: "Nagy Gсbor" 
Subject: UDMA

I'd like to use UDMA driver for DOS, but it doesn't work with my 5ALI61 type
mainboard. What's the problem? I should configure my Bios or the driver doesn't
support my mainboard? How can I write to the author of the program? (I'd like to
get him to write a special version for me ... :)
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[Freedos-user] fwd: Free BASIC for FreeDOS.

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 Below forwarded letter from Ilya V. Vasilyev (softkey rambler.ru):

Let it be known, there IS both free (GPL) and good replacement for QBasic.
Look at SmallBASIC project http://smallbasic.sourceforge.net/

It has even PLAY and DRAW routines, QBasic-compatible!

Though someone need to make DOS 16-bit binaries.  While haveing free C
compiler, it seems not a problem to compile GPL sources.  DJGPP 32-bit
binaries are availiable for download.

Thank you all, FreeDOS geeks!
Hope, my information will help to get good 1.0 release.

Bye,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Netx refuses to run even with "Version=6.2"

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Hi!

14-Сен-2004 10:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (anon permutation) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

ap> I am running freedos(0.83 pl 3) inside dosemu on Linux.  I have already put
ap> "version=6.20" inside my config.sys, however, Netx still complains that it
ap> requires Dos v3.x through v6.x. What am I doing wrong?

 Kernel 2035 (and lower) contains bug in processing VERSION= statement:
it changes not main version, but true version. Update your kernel.sys. Fro
example, from http://linux.tu-varna.acad.bg/~lig/freedos/kernel/. Also, you
may use Eric Auer' CALLVER utility, which changes version temporarily for
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[Freedos-user] Q from user

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Hi!

 Below question from user. Please, answer directly to him (note: @ in
address replaced by space):

__O\_/_\_/O__
From: "Keith Weisshar" 
Subject: Dell and N-Series PC

I read on Dell's website and it ships an N-Series PC with a FreeDOS CD in the
box but not preinstalled.  Is it based on the original fdbootcd.iso downloaded
and burned to CD by Dell at the factory?
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[Freedos-user] Re:

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

21-Сен-2004 00:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Antonio Senna) wrote to "Arkady
V.Belousov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

JAS> I have been using your version of FreeDOS kernel,which I downloaded
JAS> from Luchezar Georgiev site.
JAS> So far,it behaved as well as the mainstream version.I would like to
JAS> report two problems,however:
JAS> One minor problem is that it returns an error in the line of my
JAS> fdconfig.sys file that sets
JAS>  LASTDRIVE=F:
JAS>^

 In LASTDRIVE statement you should use only letter, without following
colon. Ie.:

lastdrive=f

JAS> with the caret under the F as shown.At that time,there are actually
JAS> only A: to D: drives,but this should not be a problem.Anyway,it sets
JAS> correctly A: to F: drives.

 This is strange, because with wrong argument ("F:" instead "F")
statement should be ignored (my changes include rejecting any actions for
statements with wrong arguments).

JAS> A somewhat worse problem did happen yesterday:I tried to move a file
JAS> from HD to floppy using FreeDOS move command:
JAS>  move d:\pdfr\pdfs\akizcat.002 a:\
JAS> (that file size was exactly the floppy size)
JAS> move reported a write problem in the floppy:
JAS>  Error writing to drive A: DOS area:Data error (bad CRC)
JAS>  (A)bort,(I)gnore,(R)etry,(F)ail ?
JAS> on my reply R,I got
JAS>  PANIC:more than two new fnodes requested at same time!
JAS>  System halted
JAS> and system really halted.
JAS> The floppy had a write problem,(perhaps some dust),
JAS> but failure to move a file,even on retry,should not crash the system.

 Hm. This is question for Bart Oldeman, who implements fnodes logic.
Also, question to Lucho: is he includes patch from tom to kernel, which
available from his site? Probably, there is problem, which mentioned by tom
by tom and should be fixed by his patch (at least, here we also have
Critical Error handler).




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Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to format harddisk partition after reboot

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Hi!

13-Окт-2004 11:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christof Meerwald) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

CM> I am unable to format a harddisk partition after a reboot (the problem
CM> occurrs in a Linux dosemu box and on real hardware), here is the version
CM> information of the FreeDOS kernel:
CM> FreeDOS kernel version 1.1.35w (Build 2035w-UNSTABLE, Sep 27 2004)
A:\>>format c: /u /q
CM>  Critical error encountered while using DOS disk driver
CM>  DOS driver error (hex): 01
CM>Description: unknown unit for driver
CM> It seems that FreeDOS hasn't initialized some disk parameter block,
CM> because if I access the harddisk before trying to format it (i.e. "dir
CM> c:"), the format works:
CM> Does anyone have an idea?

 Yes. In last patches Lucho removes main.c:InitializeAllBPBs(), which
does what you explain (initialize BPBs for utilities, which access disk
directly). Probably, issue is in this removed function.

 Unfortunately, at given moment I don't have latest CVS kernel to try to
return this function and see what happen. Kenneth, Lucho? May be someone of
you?

PS: Bart, tom: who was wrote comment for InitializeAllBPBs()? Can you
explain, how to reproduce direct access through DE? _Probably_, there should
be loaded empty environment and DE runned for browsing "physical drive"?




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[Freedos-user] corrputed disk (was: )

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

12-Окт-2004 20:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Eckmann) wrote:

AE> Who is legally responsible for damage created by FreeDOS ?

 No one. If you read any software license (including GPL), you find
there something like:

__O\_/_\_/O__
NO WARRANTY

  11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY
FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW.  EXCEPT WHEN
OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES
PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED
OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  THE ENTIRE RISK AS
TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU.  SHOULD THE
PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING,
REPAIR OR CORRECTION.

  12. IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING
WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR
REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES,
INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING
OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED
TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY
YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER
PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

 END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS
_
  O/~\ /~\O

AE> I just tried to startup on a FreeDOS floppy - nothing more.
AE> Next I removed the floppy and restarted my PC, only to find that all access
AE> to my W98 and W2000 partitions and in effect everything on my computer was
AE> lost!

 This is may be coincindence. For example, modern disks often is bad
(for example, IBM DTLA series from Hungary or Fujitsu MPG series) and may
crash at any time.

 BTW, which FreeDOS (kernel) version you try? _If_ this is bug in latest
FreeDOS kernel, then it should be fixed.

AE> Since booting from a DOS boot-diskette normally is safe, FreeDOS obviously
AE> is a terrorist attack on unsuspecting peoples computers.

 I myself many times run FreeDOS from floppy and it not destroys my
disk. Neither this happen for many other peoples.

AE> Can you remedy this situation ?

 First at all, you should give us more details:

- partitioning scheme and used file systems (FAT, NTFS).
- what mean "everything is lost"? Do you try to see contents of disk on
  other computer?

AE> Or do I need to take legal actions against you ?




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[Freedos-user] Re: corrputed disk (was: )

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

13-Окт-2004 17:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Eckmann) wrote to "Arkady V.Belousov"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

AE> I'm sorry to trouble you with this. FreeDOS really need to have an official
AE> address to which unsuspecting people like I can address our anger,
AE> disappointments, frustrations and legal-claims.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: FreeDOS community is not hard
hierarhy and doesn't have specialized members, which answer for given and
only given question. freedos-user list, probably, is better place to
communicate with all community, which agreed to communicate. Of course,
there is Jim Hall, which tries to support all FD community, but he (should
be) available through freedos-user.

 (Note: I duplicate this our discussion in freedos-user group.)

AE> I disagree with your opinion about legal responsibility,

 This is not my opinion, this is (common) legal opinion, expressed in
licence(s). I myself not always agreed with such position (especially for
commercial software, for which we pay big moneys), but this is so.

AE> but never mind
AE> that, because fortunately I managed to restore my system and gain control by
AE> booting on a Windows emergency startdiskette, and even though FDISK /MBR
AE> failed to remove the Linux-bootloader thing that FreeDOS automatically had
AE> planted on my harddisk the bootpart (v. 2.5) from C.

 Hm. Looks like you try not plain boot diskette, but FreeDOS installer.
In this case you should ask/complain to distributive developer/mantainer
(Bernd Blaauw?). FreeDOS itself neither partitions/formats disks nor
installs boot manager.

AE> Vollant did the trick
AE> and wiped it away and restored a NT-bootloader to my harddisk. Finally the
AE> SYS C: command transferred a fresh copy of the MSDOS to my harddisk, and I
AE> was back in control.

AE> What brought me to FreeDOS ? The need for a bootdiskette which I can use to
AE> start up in pure and absolute DOS, instead of using the W98 startup diskette
AE> which isn't absolute and pure DOS.

 First, MS-DOS 7.x _is_ pure DOS. Second, to get FreeDOS bootdiskette,
you may download ODIN (One Disk ... distributive; don't forget to update to
latest kernel) or do it yourself manually: just run SYS A: from directory
with FreeDOS files and kernel.

AE> Recently I used OpenDOS for that purpose, and since OpenDOS often changes
AE> name I thought that FreeDOS simply was just another name for OpenDOS.

 OpenDOS was used short time by Caldera after boughing DR-DOS from
Novell. After this it was renamed to DR-OpenDOS, then back to DR-DOS.
Currently this OS mantained by Device Logics.

 FreeDOS is a separate and independent branch of DOS clones. BTW, unlike
FreeDOS, DR-DOS up to now not supports big disks (more than 7.8 Gb) and
FAT32. (May be, forthcoming DR-DOS 8?)

AE> I had my first computer certification on mainframes back in 1968, and in the
AE> eighties I developed and wrote many applications in assember, for the MSDOS
AE> platform.
AE> Now, during all these years a DOS bootdiskette simply was a diskette with
AE> the minimal system on, which could boot a IBM compatible pc, and leave you
AE> at the familiar command prompt. And once the computer was turned off or
AE> reset, all traces of the DOS had disappeared and DOS system in itself didn't
AE> modify or harm your computer in any way: And that's my expectation to a DOS
AE> bootdiskette, that it boots to DOS and doesn't harm or modify your computer
AE> in any way.
AE> I downloaded the latest image from FreeDOS and rawrite it to a diskette.
AE> Next the diskette was left in the diskette drive, and the computer was
AE> restarted.
AE> In this scenario I was expecting the FreeDOS to boot the computer and leave
AE> me at the familiar command prompt,

 Looks like you download not bootdiskette image, but FreeDOS installer.

AE> while my computer at the same time should
AE> remain unharmed and unaltered by the FreeDOS. But instead the FreeDOS
AE> started a hefty write activity on my harddisk, and before I had a chance to
AE> react it started to talk about installing FreeDOS and Linux from a CD to my
AE> harddisk.

 Agreed, this is inappropriate. You should say more: which image/from
where you download? We should know where and what should be fixed.

AE> This is not what I expected or what I wanted, so I instantly removed the
AE> diskette and pulled the plug. However, the damage had occurred, and since I
AE> no longer could boot up in W98 or W2Kpro via the usual NT-loader the access
AE> to my harddisks had disappeared,

 In case if NT-bootloader is broken (for example, by installing other
OS, including W98), you may restore it from Recovery Console, which is
available when you boot from NT boot CD.

AE> being replaced by a terrorist attack that
AE> insisted that I should install FreeDO

Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Help.. Freedos not.. FREE

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

13-Окт-2004 14:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Williams) wrote to "Arkady
V.Belousov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

DW> I'm trying to use Nero and make a Bootable Image of FREEDOS so I can use
DW> that to recovery
DW> Windows Cripled Machines.. Upgrade Bios.. and such..  I followed the
DW> instructions and retrieved the
DW> Cd Image and burnt the CD. .and on bootup of my Aptivia.. It crashed with
DW> the info below...

 Well, first, let make sure who is wrong: this machine is incompatible
with FreeDOS or something wrong with your burned image on CD. For this, I
recommend to make bootable _diskette_ and try to boot from it (booting from
CD imitates diskette, but this imitation may be broken on your Aptiva).

DW> Maybe the Burn did not go well...   NERO does that correctly if you use the
DW> Image Copy right? Maybe it's a bad IMAGE...

>>  Which is configureation of your machine? Which kernel version shown at
>> startup? Which contents of your config.sys and autexec.bat? What mean
>> "copyright BIOS reported 0 sectors/track"? At which time displayed message
>> about Invalid Opcode (and then about MCB chain corrupt)?

 And you not answer these questions.




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Re: [Freedos-user] new member with a simple question?

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17-Окт-2004 13:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Zubey) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

WZ> My reason for being here is the purchase of a new Gateway Computer.
WZ> I am not new to computers but this model is different from all others I have
WZ> had in the past.  It comes with a 200 gigabyte hard drive!
WZ> Can FreeDOS work and help me partition this large drive?

 Yes. First, FreeDOS works through BIOS, so, if BIOS supports LBA48
specification, then they both supports more than 127 Gb disks. Second, FDISK
also supports all new protocols, so you shouldn't have problems with
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Re: _ Re: [Freedos-user] new member with a simple question?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

18-Окт-2004 02:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Giulio Sorrentino) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>>had in the past.  It comes with a 200 gigabyte hard drive!
>>Can FreeDOS work and help me partition this large drive?
GS> freedos work on fat16 or fat32: fat16 can see at max 4 gb, fat32 40.
GS> With a such hard disk you should use Linux or Win2000

 Wrong answer(s). First at all, FAT32 limited to 2Tb (two terrabytes),
not 40 Gb. Second, size of partition not relates to support of big drives
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Re: _ Re: [Freedos-user] new member with a simple question?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

18-Окт-2004 12:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Giulio Sorrentino) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>>GS> freedos work on fat16 or fat32: fat16 can see at max 4 gb, fat32 40.
>> Wrong answer(s). First at all, FAT32 limited to 2Tb (two terrabytes),
GS> NTFS Is limited to 2 or 4 TB (i don't remember), FAT 32 to 40 GB.
GS> But i've read that freedos supports more than 4(0) gb: has freedos team
GS> modified them?

 First at all: please, include into quote only relevent part, not all
original letter, including service parts. Second: _FAT32_ is _not_ limited
to 40 Gb. This limitation may be applied to some rude operating system, but
FAT32 _file system_ itself is limited by 2 Tb.

 Easy arithmetics: 32-bit FAT entries mean 2^32 clusters (4G) clusters.
With 32 kb (2^15) for each cluster, we may have 2^47 bytes (read: 128 Tb).
But remember, that sector counters in file system descriptors limited to 32
bits and this restricts FAT32 by 512 bytes*2^32=2^41 bytes (2 Tb).




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Re: [Freedos-user] What is OS ?

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Hi!

26-Окт-2004 19:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasad Mehendale) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

PM> My question is-
PM> Is it possible to describe an OS in short ? If yes, can any one do this for
PM> me?

 OS is a set of services and utilities, which controls hardware
resources and manage programs itself and their interactions. OS makes
environment for programs, which allows to write more compact (not need to
duplicate service implementation) and reliable (in case of "protected"
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Re: [Freedos-user] What is OS ?

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26-Окт-2004 19:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasad Mehendale) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

PM> My question is-
PM> Is it possible to describe an OS in short ? If yes, can any one do this for
PM> me?

 OS is a set of services and utilities, which controls hardware
resources and manage programs itself and their interactions. OS makes
environment for programs, which allows to write more compact (not need to
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Re: [Freedos-user] Some automagic SETVER for FreeDOS

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6-Ноя-2004 12:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicholas Basso) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

NB> to "switch formats".  Why, if I had it my way, I'd reprogram the servers at
NB> sf.net's listserv to allow a moderator option to strip all HTML and force
NB> all messages to only be in plain text, through the MIME information.  But
NB> then, that's my opinion, and everyone's allowed to be wrong. :)

 Issue is that _sometime_ messages must be remained multipart (for
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Re: [Freedos-user] RE: Freedos-user digest, Vol 1 #287 - 1 msg

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

6-Ноя-2004 22:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jondavey) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

J> I was thinking today, something that confuses me is; when I want to edit a
J> text file I would invoke/call a text editor but when I want to use DOS I
J> envoke a DOS prompt. What program is the DOS prompt?

 Shell gives you prompt to enter commands (which it will run). In MS-DOS
this is command.com, in FreeDOS this is FreeCOM.

J> and can I edit text at the command line without calling an editor?.

 Strange question. To "edit text" you _should_ use "text editor", shell
only allows to enter commands. But, _if yo mean_ "can I edit command line,
which entered into prompt" - then yes, you can. At least, you may use
Backspace to remove previously entered characters, but (most) shells allows
you even more features (for example, FreeCOM allows to use arrow keys).




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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS in the news

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Hi!

12-Ноя-2004 07:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

JH> OpenWatcom became available, that OW was largely compatible with BC code,

 Unfortunately, OW doesn't "largely compatible" (and never was/is
planned to be) with BC. As pointed by Michael Necasek, main compatability
target is a Microsoft C compilers. For example, you will not find __MSDOS__
macros (only MSDOS), in* and out* functions declared in conio.h (not in
i86.h/dos.h), fcntl.h doesn't declares names like O_DENYALL, etc. I even not
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[Freedos-user] Re: help

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

17-Ноя-2004 09:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

R>  I have a small problem. I installed freedos and had all kinds of problems
R> trying to boot up..

 Which ones?

R> I then went back to the freedos site and read (in bold
R> red letters) not to install if I had windowsxp... sigh.

 This is because, when you install FreeDOS bootloader, it overwrites
other OSes bootloader.

R> Now that I have
R> freedos in my system and I have to try various different ways to boot up, How
R> can I correct the problem?

 I don't know which problem you mean, but you may restore XP bootloader
with help of fixmbr and fixboot commands, which available in recovery
console (it should be available, when you boot from your licensed XP CD).

R> Can you please help me?




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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: help (WinXP and FreeDOS on one computer)

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Hi!

17-Ноя-2004 20:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

EA> the big warning on freedos.org is indeed important to know about.
EA> IF you have WinXP (or WinNT or Win2k) on your PC on a NTFS drive
EA> AND IF you have a FAT based operating system as well, for example
EA> Win98,
EA> AND IF you boot from the FreeDOS beta 9 CD-ROM to install FreeDOS,
EA> THEN FreeDOS should find that you have a boot menu on the C: drive
EA> of Win98 (the NTFS C: drive of WinXP will be invisible for DOS)
EA> and should add itself there.
EA> BUT THERE IS A BUG, and the installer will not notice that you have
EA> *both* WinXP and Win98 in that boot menu. So in the end you will
EA> have a boot menu with only Win98 and FreeDOS menu items.

 Bernd wrotes, that installer analyzes presence of bootloader through
existance of boot.ini. This is unreliable method in all sences. I know
better method: FIND. Something like:


find/c "" nul
if not errorlevel 1 goto already_present
find/c "" nul
if not errorlevel 1 goto already_present


If you have utility, which may put bootsector to stdout, you may join two
first lines into one:

|find/c>nul ""
if not errorlevel 1 goto already_present
|find/c>nul ""
if not errorlevel 1 goto already_present





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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: help (WinXP and FreeDOS on one computer)

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

17-Ноя-2004 23:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BB> Eric's OSCHECK utility is more reliable, as it uses different ranges of
BB> errorlevels for:
BB> -no known bootsector found
BB> -known bootsector found
BB> -known bootsector + kernel file found
BB> each range includes the following:
BB> MSDOS
BB> MSDOS/WIN9X
BB> WIN9X
BB> NT, 2000, XP
BB> SYSLINUX
BB> DR-DOS
BB> PC-DOS

 What about grub/lilo? What about other bootloaders, which not yet known
at time of writing/compiling OSCHECK? (I mean, adding some lines with FIND
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: help (WinXP and FreeDOS on one computer)

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Hi!

18-Ноя-2004 00:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
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>> What about grub/lilo? What about other bootloaders, which not yet known
>>at time of writing/compiling OSCHECK? (I mean, adding some lines with FIND
>>is easier with (noncompilable) batch file).
BB> I lack the tools to determine 'there is NO (VALID) bootsector on this
BB> harddisk'.

 There is no absolutely safe method to detect "valid" bootsector,
especially because there are variety of file systems and conditions, when
bootsector may become invalid (for example, removing OS kernel files, which
loaded from boot sector).

BB> If there's no known bootsector, and we still want a bootable FreeDOS,
BB> then there's no other solution than doing SYS C: ,
BB> which overwrites the unknown bootloaders.

 Why not ask user before overwriting? (Sometime) user knows better,
which OSes (s)he have and when there already present valid bootloader.

BB> A solution is desirable though. Eric did not see the need to make the
BB> bootsector finder generic enough
BB> ("kernel file 'filename' exists both on root of partition and as string
BB> in capitals on that same partition")
BB> However, that was ASM, so it might be more difficult to do that.

 To make more generic solution, discussed utility may get some
arguments, which specify requested search (and not to built-in inside). For
example:

isboot mbr ""
if errorlevel
isboot c: "" boot.ini ntldr
if errorlevel 3 goto no_such_drive_letter
if errorlevel 2 goto requested_files_not_found_in_root
if errorlevel 1 goto no_such_string_in_bootsector

(first call searches in mbr requested string, second call searches requested
string in bootsector of C: and requested file(s) in root directory). To make
search through all drive letters, better to make isboot more generic:

isboot *: "" boot.ini ntldr
if errorlevel 3 goto no_defined_drive_letter_from_C_to_Z
if errorlevel 2 goto requested_files_not_found_in_all_roots
if errorlevel 1 goto no_such_string_in_all_bootsectors




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[Freedos-user] Q from user

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

 Below question from user. Please, answer directly to he (note: @ in
adress replaced by space):

__O\_/_\_/O__
From: Liam 
Subject: View problems in FreeDos

I am trying to use FreeDos BETA 9, booting from the cdrom iso.

Most of the time i can only view half of the menus displayed as they run off
the screen and cannot be accessed. The menus are not long enough to have
needed to run off the screen either.

This does not happen in any other OS i have previously had installed on this
pc either so its not a monitor problemn or adjustment.

Is this a common problem?

What can i do about this? If i cant read all the options then i cant install
or use FreeDos.
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Re: [Freedos-user] my first post and first freedos night -> installation fails

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

11-Окт-2004 03:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sergiy) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

S> I have a 386-er laptop with 20Mhz CPU, 10MB RAM and 40,7MB HDD
S> I tried to install freedos from base floppies, cause i dont have cd-rom
S> drive and pcmcia on it =(
S> But it doesn't work korrektly.

 What goes wrong?

S> It looks like i don't have installed any boot-manager.

S> Whow can I install freeDOS from floppies and the rest of the
S> installation (GUI, Utils, etc) over null-modem cable?

 You may copy required files over null-modem cable and then install from
HD. For this, you need some program, which allows to connect computers
through this cable (or through "null-LPT"). For example, Norton Commander,
DOS Navigator, LapLink, Clan, etc.

S> (over serial cable: FreeDOS laptop <--> Debian PC <--> internet)
S> I'am running Debian Sarge Linux on my main PC. Any ideas?




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[Freedos-user] Re: which Freedos with XP?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Салям!

28-Ноя-2004 22:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trent Slade) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

TS> The Beta 9 Freedos says it can't be run with nt/2000/xp.  So which
TS> build of freedos can I use?

 What mean "can't be run with"? Which troubles you have?




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[Freedos-user] test, ignore this letter

[Arkady V.Belousov]

test




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Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for a program that switch all file names to capital letters

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

28-Ноя-2004 22:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karim) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

K> I`m looking for a program that rewrite all file names with capital letters.

 DOS (any DOS) always stores (short) names in capital letters. Long
names (which available for DOS programs under Windows GUI or with help of
utilities like DOSLFN) stored "as is", but file system anyway is case
insensetive (ie. "LONG NAME.txt" is equal to "lOnG nAmE.TxT").

K> I`ve try to run the pas2pic  (pas2pic.tk) compiler on freedos. I got an
K> error because the compiler cannot find a unit (which is in the same
K> dir).

 How named file with unit? How your compiler searches units (in which
directories)? What written in source?

K> As I assume  FreeDOS shows all letters in capital letters even I the
K> files are named in lower case. Any suggestions  ?




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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: which Freedos with XP?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

28-Ноя-2004 16:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> TS> The Beta 9 Freedos says it can't be run with nt/2000/xp.  So which
>> TS> build of freedos can I use?
>>  What mean "can't be run with"? Which troubles you have?
BB> Arkady, the Beta9 had a bad batchfile which did not detect NT/2K/XP
BB> entirely correctly.

 Yes, we discuss this earlier.

BB> The next FreeDOS, released hopefully later today, has fixed this.

 But author of question doesn't explain, which problem he have
precisely.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for a program that switch all file names to capital letters

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

29-Ноя-2004 17:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karim) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

K> I don`t know what`s wrong here. The compiler doesn`t seems to find the
K> unit and put an error message on the screen.

 What error message says? Does this happen under FreeDOS or under other
OSes (MS-DOS, W9x, etc) also? What is your configuration (config.sys and
autoexec.bat)?

K> I`ve tried to comppile in a
K> subdir and in the root dir of freedos, nothing worked.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for a program that switch all file names to capital letters

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

29-Ноя-2004 20:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karim) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>> K> I don`t know what`s wrong here. The compiler doesn`t seems to find the
>> K> unit and put an error message on the screen.
>>  What error message says? Does this happen under FreeDOS or under
>>  other
>> OSes (MS-DOS, W9x, etc) also? What is your configuration (config.sys and
>> autoexec.bat)?
K> The exact error compiler message is:
K> " "Error: F84_EX.pas 1,11
K>  Bad Processor definition"

 Hm. Looks, like this your compiler edition not accepts directive, which
"defines" processor. What is in first line of f85_ex.pas?

K> That means that the compiler cannot find the "processor definition
K> unit", named 16f84.ptp (which is in the same directory).

 I not see from error message, that it not finds this file (or tries to
find such file at all).

K> Pas2pic is written for DOS and I assume that this problem wont appear
K> with MS-DOS.

 Assume? Better, if you try this in your environment.

K> There is also only one message written in
K> the pas2pic forum that describes exactly the same compiler problem on
K> the freedos platform. All the other threads are written from people who
K> compiled successful with pas2pic (on ms-dos).
K> There must be a diffrence in handeling lower- and upercase letters
K> between Dos and Freedos.

 There must _not_ be differences between MS-DOS and FD in this respect.

K> You can try it for yourself.  http://pas2pic.tk

 I can't, because limited in downloading and don't know, how to
reproduce your problem (what and where place, what and how run, what
expect).




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Re: [Freedos-user] Fix for Borland Turbo Pascal Bug?

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Hi!

30-Ноя-2004 19:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

kn> I've been bitten by an apparent bug in Turbo Pascal running on
kn> newer computers. Here is the only FreeDOS reference I can
kn> This apparently also fails on MS-DOS 6.22 but DOES NOT fail on the
kn> version of MS-DOS that ships with Windows 98SE (4.10.).

 If you mean "runned under GUI", then this may be explained as slowdown
of DOS boxes (Windows kernel eats some time for itself).

kn> Does anyone know what this bug is

 This bug is in CRT unit: Borlands programmers implement delay() in such
way, that it loops given count of iteration for each request millisecond.
For this, when program starts, CRT units measures how much of iterations
performed during millisecond. Trouble is that on faster computers there is
too much of iterations and in next calculations result is division by zero
(which in TP called "Runtime error 200").

kn> and whether it could be fixed in FreeDOS?

 There is some ways, how to fix bug in TP library itself and how to fix
already compiled programs. And this not depends from OS. For example, take a
look at:

http://fjf.gnu.de/newdelay.pas
http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200/newdelay.pas
http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200/bp7patch.zip
ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/turbopas/rdelay10.zip

__O\_/_\_/O__
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Duncan Murdoch
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 DJ Murdoch at 1:249/99.5. (Fidonet)
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Duncan Murdoch
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Also, for fixing programs, compiled by TP/BP, I very recommend TPPATCH,
written by Andreas Bauer  (unfortunately, don't
know its URL).




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Re: [Freedos-user] Fix for Borland Turbo Pascal Bug?

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Hi!

30-Ноя-2004 19:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to
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kn> Thanks for the information.  However, MS-DOS 4.10. (no GUI)
kn> fixes this.  Apparently, so does DR DOS/OpenDOS.  So, it is
kn> possible to "fix" the Borland bug in DOS.

 No, this is _not_ possible to fix - only solution is to slowdown
computer. Also, may be help if you in some way trap division by zero
interrupt and try to resume program, but I doubt that MS-DOS 7.1 (not 4.1)
does this.

kn> I'll try that.  The Borland application is not open source and I didn't
kn> write it...

 Trouble with division by zero is ("Runtime Error 200") is common for
_all_ programs, which compiled by TP/BP, notwithstanding if they are open or
not. But your word "Borland application" may indicate, that you have another
problem, not RTE200? May you precisely specify the application name and what
happen (how you run, at which moment happen error and how it seen;
particularly, which error messages seen on screen).

kn> I may have to look at the patch tool, though, and see if
kn> it works as well.  I'd like to switch to FreeDOS, but this one application
kn> is the only reason I'm using DOS at all... :-)




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Re: [Freedos-user] How to install FreeDOS to D:?

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Hi!

30-Ноя-2004 19:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

kn> Thanks again.  "Obviously"  :-) I intend
>> *boot the other partition, and let it become C:
kn> On this machine, that isn't even on the first hard disk.
kn> My boot loader will swap them

 (Hi, Eric: I try to boot from second disk and BIOS really makes
swapping, instead just calling MBR from second disk. You was right. Though,
don't know how will behave bootloaders, which allow to boot partitions from
second disk, if such bootloaders exist.)

kn> and make the specific partition active.  However, when I boot from CD, the
kn> MBR boot loader is bypassed.

 There is another story: when you select in BIOS setup "boot from: D:
(second disk)", then it "swaps" disks (second disk available as first, and
vice versa), so C: assigned to "active" partition on _physical second_ disk.
When you boot from CD, then BIOS now not swaps disks, so C: now again
assigned to active partition on _first_ disk. This not relates to MBR
bootloader.

kn> Then, when FreeDOS comes up, it sees the "wrong" C:.

kn> If I hide all of the primary partitions on the first hard drive,
kn> I'm not quite sure what the BIOS will do.

 BIOS doesnt deals with partitions, this is issue of MBR bootloader.
BIOS just call code from MBR (first sector on requested disk). If code in
MBR will not find active partition, then most probably it says something
like "Missing operating system" (of course, this depends from code, which
written into MBR).

kn> boot sector MUST be written to the USB stick.  Somehow,
kn> it rarely seems to be C:.

 Then write boot code into bootsector of any available disk/partition,
just say its name ad argument of SYS. Bernd already explain this.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Fix for Borland Turbo Pascal Bug?

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1-Дек-2004 00:07 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to
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kn>> possible to "fix" the Borland bug in DOS.
AVB>  No, this is _not_ possible to fix

 ...in DOS.

AVB>   - only solution is to slowdown
AVB> computer. Also, may be help if you in some way trap division by zero
AVB> interrupt and try to resume program, but I doubt that MS-DOS 7.1 (not 4.1)
AVB> does this.




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[Freedos-user] Re: Netboot FreeDOS - NetWare 4.11 (IPX)

[Arkady V.Belousov]

Салям!

21-Окт-2004 15:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aleksander Boroё) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

AB> I try to make FreeDOS boot form Novell NetWare 4.11 server.

 Do you mean, that you try to use netcard with bootable ROM?

AB> I think that FreeDOS freezes
AB> because of hard disk detection (from floppy works fine -
AB> from net it stops just before message "no hard disk detected"). I have the
AB> latest version of FreeDOS (beta9).

 As I understand, there is issue that your configuration doesn't
imitates disk through netcard. Unfortunately, I myself can't help in this
question, but I make copy of this letter in freedos-user@ group, where
someone may have experience with network boot.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Fix for Borland Turbo Pascal Bug?

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Hi!

4-Дек-2004 00:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kristaps Kaupe) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>>  Trouble with division by zero is ("Runtime Error 200") is common for
>> _all_ programs, which compiled by TP/BP, notwithstanding if they are open
>> or not. But your word "Borland application" may indicate, that you have
KK> It is not a common bug for ALL programs compiled by TP/BP. It is bug for
KK> programs compiled by TP/BP which uses Crt unit as this bug is in start-up
KK> code of Crt unit.

 Yes, your correction of my words is right, sorry for slightly unprecise
describing.




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[Freedos-user] Re: FreeDOS Boot Disk

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5-Дек-2004 18:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Weisshar) wrote to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

KW> Why isn't fdos1440.img included with the FreeDOS CD.  My old Aptiva BIOS is
KW> buggy even though it has a bootable CD drive and I need Smart BootManager in
KW> order to boot from CD without errors.

 You should ask this question FreeDOS distributive mantainer (if you use
Beta9, ask Bernd Blaauw).




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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about FDAPM suspend versus clock

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12-Дек-2004 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
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EA> Hi, I got a report that FDAPM SUSPEND mode stops the timer tick clock
EA> (so far so good) and fails to update it to current time when waking up.
EA> Does that happen for you, too, or does it only happen for a few BIOSes?
EA> The FDAPM STANDBY mode does not stop the timer, as the CPU is not halted
EA> completely - but less energy is saved, too.

 On my (probably, not very correct machine) your FDAPM SUSPEND under
plain DOS (in DOS box W98 closes DOS box because invalid instruction) stops
disk and turns off monitor, but immediately after this FDAPM wakeups.

EA> I could add a function which updates the timer tick clock by converting
EA> the CMOS wall clock time to timer tick units when waking up from suspend,
EA> but only if it is a common problem that the tick clock stops during suspend.




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[Freedos-user] Q from user

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Hi!

 Below question from user. Please, answer directly to him (note: @ in
address replaced by space):

__O\_/_\_/O__
Subject: installing with linux
From: "rob.rice" 

I have a 100MB 1st partition on drive hdc1
what if I cat the *.IMG files tougher mount them on a loopback
copy all of them to the partition
now what do I tell lilo to load to boot freedos ?
IF I pull this off would you like a script to do it
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