Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?
Yeah, when it gets to the point of aesthetics then you know you're doin' good ;) --- gge...@pm.me ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, February 6th, 2021 at 12:03 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > Thanks! The faint boxes are there while I work on the layout. I mentioned > this in my original message: > >> And you may notice some faint boxes on the main page - such as around the >> diagrams and the articles. I'm using these to help me with the layout; this >> will be changed to black-on-white in the end. > > But I think if we're making comments about margins and padding, that > indicates the general design and site organization is probably easy to use. > So I think I need to work on a new iteration with this feedback. I'll > temporarily take down the test website while I make some updates. Stay tuned! > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 6:22 AM Greg Gerke via Freedos-user > wrote: > >> Maybe a little margin around the text in each of the four boxes so that the >> text isn't crammed right up against the edges of the box...? >> >> --- >> gge...@pm.me >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Friday, February 5th, 2021 at 3:27 PM, Jim Hall wrote: >> >>> Good iteration. Here's the same "test.html" page with the text below the >>> screenshots: >>> http://test.freedos.org/test2.html >>> >>> Does that look better? More importantly, is that easier to use? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:09 PM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Looks good! IMO, however, the text would look better below the video/image >>>> thumbnails. >>>> >>>> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >>>> >>>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >>>> On Friday, February 5, 2021 3:55 PM, Jim Hall wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do the social media icons on this test page look better? (This also >>>>> centers the screenshots and "learn more" buttons.) >>>>> >>>>> http://test.freedos.org/test.html >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?
Maybe a little margin around the text in each of the four boxes so that the text isn't crammed right up against the edges of the box...? --- gge...@pm.me ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, February 5th, 2021 at 3:27 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > Good iteration. Here's the same "test.html" page with the text below the > screenshots: > http://test.freedos.org/test2.html > > Does that look better? More importantly, is that easier to use? > > Thanks! > > Jim > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:09 PM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user > wrote: > >> Looks good! IMO, however, the text would look better below the video/image >> thumbnails. >> >> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Friday, February 5, 2021 3:55 PM, Jim Hall wrote: >> >>> Do the social media icons on this test page look better? (This also centers >>> the screenshots and "learn more" buttons.) >>> >>> http://test.freedos.org/test.html___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ethernet drivers
Well, yeah, granted - the website you're going to would have to be pretty compliant in the standards of a 100 years ago but it might at least give *something* back ;) --- gge...@pm.me ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, January 20th, 2021 at 2:59 PM, Jose Senna wrote: > Greg Gerke asked: > > > ...has anybody tried Lynx on FreeDOS ? > > I used it for quite a few years, but > > now Lynx is (almost) no good, because > > -No Javascript > > -Obsolete secure protocols > > -Incorrect renderizing of frames, tables > > -Few sites still provide pages suitable for > > text-mode browsers. > > Anyway, trying it will do no harm. > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dos ethernet drivers
Apologies in advance if this is old news... but has anybody tried lynx on FreeDOS? I don't have an internet connection set up so I can't say I've given it a shot. https://lynx.browser.org/ --- gge...@pm.me ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, January 20th, 2021 at 8:31 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I am afraid I do not follow you. > > I use DOS exclusively, and spend several hours a day on line using DOS > > exclusively. Sometimes from my DOS desktop, sometimes via sshdos, but I > > am using nothing but DOS. > > hardly meaningless to me. > > Still, since going online is indeed a critical part of computing, why has > > not the freedos community worked on creating its own browser and ssh > > tools? > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2021, andrea...@tiscali.it wrote: > > > Ok, it may seem like an archaeological work to look for dos eth. > > > > driver and in fact meaningless sense since you go online with other OS, > > > > But in using dos/freedos I believe that the possibility of going online > > > > is a basic problem. And this regardless of the limitations of browsers > > > > such as links and arachne which are well known. > > > > otherwise freedos will > > > > be a limited program, at least for common users > > > > Il 20.01.2021 01:41 > > > > Karen Lewellen ha scritto: > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > I have no idea about pure > > > > > > freedos, but I can use the links browser for DOS > > > > > > in its full graphics > > > > > > mode to go on line in pure ms dos. > > > > > > It is not my preference, there are > > > > > > things about the browser which do not > > > > > > speak well, and it does not > > > > > > seem to support cookies. > > > > > > Still, I have no issues doing google > > > > > > searches, or reading some local > > > > > > news sites. > > > > > > If Links for DOS > > > > > > supported Cookies I would use it more, mainly I use > > > > > > sshdos to a shell > > > > > > service instead. > > > > > > Never tried Arachnid for the same lack of speech > > > > > > issues. > > > > > > Just my take, > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2021, Thomas Mueller > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, I wanted to ask a question about dos ethernet driver. > > > > > > > > > > I think it's one of the most satisfying thing using dos to go online. > > > > > > > > > > You know the problem: is to find ad load the driver you need, > > > > > especially > > > > > > > > > > for laptops. Ad it's very hard. For example I still use an old Acer > > > > > > > > > > aspire 1300 ad I load the Via fetpkt ethernet driver ( thanks to > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > Potthast driver collection) and it work fine; so another Acer with > > > > > > > > > > Broadcom B44 odi. But maybe it is luck! Now I am trying to load a > > > > > diver > > > > > > > > > > for a toshiba satellite with Marvell Yukon eth.card: I found the > > > > > driver > > > > > > > > > > (yukodi driver) and it would seem to work, and system says it loaded > > > > > odi > > > > > > > > > > packet driver and so on, but neither Arachne no Link go up on > > > > > internet. > > > > > > > > > > I have a wattcp.cfg (My_ip = dhcp), as usual, but they fail. ( The > > > > > > > > > > laptop is good and goes up on internet with Slacko/puppy - I've > > > > > > > > > > partitioned HD). Any ideas? Or you think it's now too tiring and > > > > > useless > > > > > > > > > > to go online with dos? (I use pure freedos 1.2 and 1.3.) Thanks for > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > interest. > > > > > > > > Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 30 4G hai minuti illimitati, > > > > > > > > > > 100 SMS e 30 Giga in 4G a soli 8,99⬠al mese. > > > > > http://tisca.li/smart30 > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > I remember seeing Glenn McCorkle's latest Arachne update on > > > > > > > > www.glennmcc.org [2] in March 2013 but never downloaded it because I > > > > > > > > woudn't have been able to use it. I have never been online with present > > > > > > > > computer using FreeDOS, haven't tried any other DOS; now online with > > > > > > > > NetBSD. Here is what NetBSD says about my Ethernet, from > > > > > > > > /var/run/dmesg.boot : re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0: RealTek 8168/8111 > > > > > > > > PCIe Gigabit Ethernet (rev. 0x06) re0: interrupting at msix2 vec 0 re0: > > > > > > > > Ethernet address d4:3d:7e:97:17:e2 re0: using 256 tx descriptors So I > > > > > > > > use FreeDOS very infrequently. I wonder if there is any way I could go > > > > > > > > online with FreeDOS using PXE boot. I would be very limited in what I > > > > > > > > could do online with FreeDOS, but it would be nice to prove it can be > > > > > > > > done. Tom > > > > Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 30 4G hai minuti illimitati, 100 SMS e 30 Giga in > > 4G a soli 8,99€ al mese. http://tisca.li/smart30 > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list
Re: [Freedos-user] Problems with FDISK?
So I finally got a little more time to play around with this thing... but still no luck. For reference the interface is an ID2CF from Startech.com (https://www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/ide2cf) and the CF card itself is a 16GB no-name. I've tried messing with both FreeDOS 1.2 and 1.3-RC3 but had the same luck with both. When I boot up my machine (Dell P3 at a blazing 600MHz) it does see the disk in during POST as: Fixed Disk 0: CF CARD-(PM) ATAPI CD-ROM: LG CD-RW CED-8-(SM) After the CD grinds for a bit I get to this screen: FreeDOS kernel 2042 (build 2042 EOM:0xfd) [compiled May 11 2016] Kernel compatibility 7.10 - WATCOMC - FAT32 support (C) Copyright blah blah blah - InitDiskWARNING: using suspect partition Pri:1 FS 0b: with calculated values 2-2-33 instead of 4-4-1 WARNING: Partition ID does not suggest LBA - part Pri:1 FS 0b. Please run FDISK to correct this - using LBA to access partition. start 2-2-33, end 4440-8-48 C: HD1, Pri[ 1], CHS= 2-2-33, start= 1MB, size=2048MB After that it trundles on until it gets to the "C: is not partition, do you want to do that now?" screen I tell it yes and I *think* I see a message about something terminated but it only flashes on the screen for a split second. After that it says it needs to reboot but then I end up down the same path in the installer. If I tell it I want to go back to DOS and I try doing any of these: "fdisk" or "fdisk 0" or "fdisk /fprmpt" or "fdisk /dump" I end up with the same error Error Reading Hard Disk: Function number or drive not permitted. Program Terminated. I don't have a way to test the IDE to CF interface elsewhere but I can put the CF card in a reader and attach it to either a Linux laptop or a Win10 desktop and it shows up just fine in either case. I've currently got the CF card partitioned to having only a 2GB primary partition. On the Linux I tried to partition it via cfdisk (W95 FAT32 LBA) and set it to be bootable before writing out the partition. I also did roughly the same thing via gparted but that didn't have any more favorable results. This machine does have a 3GB IDE spinning disk (with FreeDOS 1.2) in it but I've got to think that it's of a vintage that it may or may not last much longer. I don't have any reason to believe it's having a problem but it's going on perhaps 15 years so I know it won't last forever and I figured I'd get a jump on getting this updated where I can. I did try booting off of the spinning disk and making the CF card the slave instead of the master (or primary/secondary depending on how you feel about such things). Both the spinning and the CF showed up during POST but I wasn't able to use fdisk (or fdisk131) to get to the CF card... although doing an fdisk /dump did show 8 potential disks with only the first one having anything to say for itself (as that's where the spinning disk is). Thanks, Greg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, January 4th, 2021 at 1:07 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/4/2021 7:02 AM, Bob Pryor wrote: > >> Greg >> >> Did the gparted computer partition the CF card as GPT? I believe FreeDOS >> only recognizes MBR partitions. > > That is correct, but not necessarily the only potential issue... > >>> But after the reboot it comes back and asks again about partitioning. >>> Granted, I'm guessing that FreeDOS and/or fdisk wasn't expecting this sort >>> of hardware so maybe this is yet another wrinkle? > > I personally don't trust those CF to IDE adapters, and CF cards in general, > they just seem to add indeed another layer of potential problems... > >>> I did take the CF card and put it on another machine and (via gparted) made >>> four 2GB partitions and formatted them as FAT32. When I tried the reinstall >>> again it still comes up saying that the "disk" needs to be partition though. > > HOW did you create those partitions? DOS (any DOS) will work only with one > "primary" partition (partition ID 0Bh/0Ch), any additional ones need to be > "extended" partitions (0Fh, all assuming FAT32). > > Ralf > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon > Virus-free. > [www.avast.com](https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link)#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Problems with FDISK?
I was having a similar problem during an install that I think might stem from fdisk. I'm new to the mailing list so apologies in advance if this is old news. I'd purchased an IDE2CF (from startech.com) and a 16GB CF card. The CF card does show in the POST. I'm able to boot using the full CD install image and when it gets to the part about partitioning the disk it says it's not partitioned and asks to go ahead with it. I let it go, it asks for a reboot, I answer "yes". But after the reboot it comes back and asks again about partitioning. Granted, I'm guessing that FreeDOS and/or fdisk wasn't expecting this sort of hardware so maybe this is yet another wrinkle? I did take the CF card and put it on another machine and (via gparted) made four 2GB partitions and formatted them as FAT32. When I tried the reinstall again it still comes up saying that the "disk" needs to be partition though. I didn't try dropping to DOS and using the fdisk131 though to see if that makes a difference; I'll give that a shot later. Thanks, Greg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, January 4th, 2021 at 6:30 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > Hi Jim, > > as I am referring to the BTTR thread, "both" versions means: > > > There are currently 2 binaries delivered in the fdisk package: > > > > - FDISK.EXE, version 1.2.1, dated 4/2003 > > - FDISK131.EXE, version 1.3.1, dated 11/2008 > > See: > > https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=17440 > > Recent updates in the thread says that the error probably > > got triggered by FDISK rounding (instead of rounding up) > > partition starts to the nearest (instead of next) start of > > a cylinder. So if you have partitions made with other tools > > which do not end on a cylinder boundary, our FDISK can make > > the next partition at an OVERLAPPING position. > > This also seems to depend on fdisk config file contents and > > on whether the fdisk config file exists at all. One version > > (1.3.1) just utterly fails to work on Japheth's computer. > > Regards, Eric > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
Ah. Back when "Norton" actually meant something ;) ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, January 3rd, 2021 at 3:54 PM, Ray Davison wrote: > I have posted pics of some stuff. > > The last pic is two trays of a couple hundred Software of the Month Club > > disks - mostly 5.25 and the last few are 3.5, freeware, category general > > interest. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/aTdSyfEHbbdhKkxV7 > > Ray > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Like GEM? [https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/](https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/1x)3x --- gge...@pm.me ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 at 9:34 AM, Doctor Vell wrote: > Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS?___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
