Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS

2011-06-06 Thread Pat Villani
Oh, I know that.  Last year I spent several months talking to them and HP
was bold enough to say "WHo needs you.  It's free."  Complete ignorance on
their part, which makes me very happy I left the several years ago.

Point is that they do distribute it and it is an opportunity to possibly
showcase future enhancements.  Also, there are people who purchase them for
legacy applications, although under the misunderstanding that HP will
support FreeDOS.  I've heard from plenty of those people.

Pat


On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Tom Ehlert  wrote:

>
> > See HP, Dell, Asus, etc.  They all happen to ship FreeDOS on their
> systems.
>
> See HP, Dell, Asus, and you will learn quickly that FreeDOS is a
> synonym for 'without operating system', intended for people that
> install their own OS (which is most likely NOT FreeDOS)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Willi Wasser  wrote:
>
> >> > You'd probably be amazed at how many embedded and industrial control
> >> systems are based on DOS.
> >>
> >> Indeed! If someone pointed me out precize brands and models of systems
> that
> >> nowadays still use DOS i would really be amazed. (Are those systems just
> >> still around, or is there even real active development?) My personal
> >> experience is different. The last time i professionally came in touch
> with
> >> DOS was in late 1999. That's more than a decade ago. In the rapidly
> >> developing IT busyness this is almost an eternity.
> >>
> >> Is this phenomenon (if it really exists) perhaps limited to certain
> >> busynesses or certain parts of the world? It might be interesting to
> have
> >> some kind of survey.
>
> Tom
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Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS

2011-06-05 Thread Pat Villani
See HP, Dell, Asus, etc.  They all happen to ship FreeDOS on their systems.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Willi Wasser  wrote:

> > You'd probably be amazed at how many embedded and industrial control
> systems are based on DOS.
>
> Indeed! If someone pointed me out precize brands and models of systems that
> nowadays still use DOS i would really be amazed. (Are those systems just
> still around, or is there even real active development?) My personal
> experience is different. The last time i professionally came in touch with
> DOS was in late 1999. That's more than a decade ago. In the rapidly
> developing IT busyness this is almost an eternity.
>
> Is this phenomenon (if it really exists) perhaps limited to certain
> busynesses or certain parts of the world? It might be interesting to have
> some kind of survey.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-11 Thread Pat Villani
OK, I'm afraid I let this thread get out of hand.  This is a passionate
group.

The fact of the matter is simple.  Hardware does progress and we, the
FreeDOS developers, have to accommodate new hardware.  We may not do it as
quickly as some like, but nonetheless, we do.

There will come a time where certain hardware will no longer be supported.
The simple fact of the matter is that the hardware may no longer be
available to test on, or that supporting very old hardware interferes with
supporting new hardware.  When that happens, we will deal with it.

Please try to continue this discussion in a manner that will result in a
productive outcome.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Heads-up about FreeDOS Wikipedia.org page

2011-02-16 Thread Pat Villani
Thanks for the heads up.  I'll look at it later today.

Pat


On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, john s wolter
wrote:

> I've visited the FreeDOS Wikipedia page 
> that appears somewhat out of date, I think.  I don't know whose working
> the documentation effort but they may want to put some time into updating
> that resource.  I have read the article and found it very useful.
>
> I use Wikipedia for the instant learning I need for software development
> and support work.  You can't know everything so it is a quick reference to
> just about anything.
>
> Remember, Wikipedia is your friend.  It is a well traveled path.
>
> Cheers.
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[Freedos-user] Talk this Tuesday

2010-11-19 Thread Pat Villani
My apologies for cross posting.

If you have access to Brookdale Community College in Lincroft, NJ, and want
to hear a talk given by yours truly, stop by this Tuesday, November 23.  The
talk will be on operating system tool chains, debugging and writing OS start
up code, and it is based on a couple of small, 32-bit "kernels" that I came
up with to illustrate the principles behind the talk.

The talk will be in Larrison Hall 113 and will start at noon.

Thanks for the bandwidth.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user, SoundBlaster ?

2010-09-11 Thread Pat Villani
That's Bochs.

Pat


On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:21 PM, dos386  wrote:
>> Dosbox is an emulator that emulates an x86 processor and PC hardware
>> In this way, it is similar to qemu or bochs
>
> good ...
>
>> It goes one step beyond in that they added to the emulator a
>> DOS-like interface that maps the native file system into the DOS system 
>> calls,
>> as well as the remaining DOS and BIOS system calls.
>
>> I might add that I would not generally recommend using
>> the DOSBox built-in DOS
>
> To be useful for me, 2 things would have to change:
>
> - Remove the word "DOS" from the name (the thing is unable to boot
> into a PC, so it's not a OS and thus not a DOS)
>
> - Remove the "DOS-like interface that maps the native file system"
> (so turn it into a clean 80386 / 80486 / early Pentium PC emulator)
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user, SoundBlaster ?

2010-09-11 Thread Pat Villani
Dosbox is an emulator that emulates an x86 processor and PC hardware.  In
this way, it is similar to qemu or bochs.  It goes one step beyond in that
they added to the emulator a DOS-like interface that maps the native file
system into the DOS system calls, as well as the remaining DOS and BIOS
system calls.

"Sound blaster" refers to a set of ISA boards that were manufactured in the
late 1980s and early 1990s.  These cards were backward compatible in both
hardware and API.  The most common was the Sound Blaster 16 (SB-16) that
emulators like dosbox, qemu and bochs emulate and map into the host
operating system API.  This is why the program recognizes sound blaster in
dosbox.

Most likely, your sound hardware is not SB-16 compatible, which explains why
the program does not recognize your sound subsystem.  Mpxplay is capable of
recognizing many more cards, including Intel ICH (PC97) and Intel HDA which
is common on most recent computers.

Pat


On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Garrison Ricketson <
garryricket...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello, every one,
>   Just  to say hello and I have been reading the "news letters",
> as the come in,..
>  Actually maybe one question, I may have asked this along time ago, and
> either missed
> the answer, or never was one...
>  I have a PacMan game, that is intended for Dos, it runs well with FreeDos,
> also,..but
> it never can detect "sound blaster", and that is the only sound device it
> can use...
>  The game, dose not run in Windows, nor is intended to, but with Dos Box it
> will,
>  When run from Dos Box, it dose detect "sound blaster",...and the sound
> works..
>   When I boot with Dos, it (the pac man ) runs well, but dose not have
> sound,..and the same when
> I have booted with FreeDosOk apparently, in the windows partition,there
> is
> either "sound blaster" or a emulator...howver since niether of my Dos
> partions, "read" the
> windows partition(NTFS)...no "sound blaster" is detectedSo,How can, or
> where can
> I get "sound blaster" (or a emulator), for Dos,...? Do I need to get  a
> whole new "SB",..
> that is for Dos? MPXPLAY, is working great for music, on the FreeDos,
> ...so the
> sound capabiltys are there, but this PacMan, and it is in the readme doc,
> will only
> work with "sound blaster"...
> Ok well thats about it, for now
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any news on FreeDOS 1.1?

2010-08-09 Thread Pat Villani
We are assessing what needs to be done in order to scope out the
effort.  I am just now starting to talk to the maintainers.

Pat



On 8/9/10, Robert Riebisch  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> As time passes by and I didn't hear anything from the update guys for
> the last month: Is there any progress on bringing FreeDOS 1.1 to life?
>
> In April I wrote to some guys: Put all this stuff to a wiki, e.g., to
> wiki.fdos.org, where anyone can see the progress (hopefully) and help to
> get things done. So create a public task or to-do list. Nothing
> happened. :-/
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Re: [Freedos-user] Eric Auer's "A Fantasy of a future..."

2010-04-15 Thread Pat Villani
As I said in a separate post, Please drop this discussion.

Pat Villani
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Ron Spruell Sr. wrote:

> Folks, this guy stated he was kicked off some forums, seems he came here
> for
> another confrontation, I for one would not give him that.
> Ron Spruell Sr.
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[Freedos-user] Project Coordinator's Request (was Re: Eric Auer's "A Fantasy of a future...")

2010-04-15 Thread Pat Villani
Please drop the "A Fantasy of a future..." thread.  It has degenerated and
gone on long enough.

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Re: [Freedos-user] website design

2009-11-14 Thread Pat Villani
Thanks Bonnie.  There are others who volunteered as well, so our plan is to
have the community vote on what they like.  I hope you don't mind.

Pat


On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Bonnie Dalzell  wrote:

> I do web sites and graphics
>
> I do not do css from scratch or java script however.
>
> I would be happy to redo the freedos website if you need it done as long
> as you do not want java scripts or complex css. i am a regular FreeDos
> user with no programming skills other than website design to contribut to
> the project.
>
> Some of my web sites are in the address line below
>
> It appears to me that the site at www.freedos.or is based on a standard
> wiki template. it appears pretty easy to navigate. what is wrong with it
> in the opinion of the users?
>
> Although I do not do css from scratch I can tweak subsections of a css
> page.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Help us redesign www.freedos.org

2009-11-13 Thread Pat Villani
Actually, I did not think of it.  Thanks.

Pat


On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Chris Schumann
 wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Pat Villani  wrote:
>> If you're a web designer or would like to try your hand at web
>> design, here's your chance. Help us update the FreeDOS web site
>> design!
> Was this submitted to the news sites, such as slashdot? Submitting to
> designer communities would be a good idea too.
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[Freedos-user] Help us redesign www.freedos.org

2009-11-11 Thread Pat Villani
Hi all,

As you all know, the FreeDOS web site is run by volunteers, all of
which are programmers and not web designers. Now we're asking for
help.  If you're a web designer or would like to try your hand at web
design, here's your chance. Help us update the FreeDOS web site
design!

Web designers can submit their design idea via email. We'll post the
top finalists and provide a way for people to vote for their favorite
new web design.  In recognition, we'll provide a “Original site design
by ” link in the footer. Our site gets tens of thousands of
hits per day, and that link will help you get seen.  This could be a
resume-builder for you to break into web design, or a reference for
your portfolio if you're already a professional web designer.

If you're interested, details are at Jim Hall's blog:
http://www.freedos.org/jhall/ and at
http://sourceforge.net/userapps/wordpress/jhall1/2009/10/20/are-you-a-web-developer/
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Thanks.

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Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-devel] How can I help with FreeDOS 1.1?

2009-11-03 Thread Pat Villani
Hi Joe,

Welcome.  Some answers:

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Joe Emenaker  wrote:
>

 snip ***

>
> So, anyway, I'm excited about FreeDOS 1.1, and I want to help get it out the
> door.

Thank you for volunteering.

> As far as what I can offer. I'm pretty fluent in DOS batch programming,
> linux bash, Perl, Java, C... a few others. It appears that FreeDOS uses a
> packaging system. Well, I've rolled some of my own packages for Debian, and
> I don't think FreeDOS's packaging system can be more complicated and
> Debian's. Oh, and I've got some free time. So... what needs doing?

Time is a major factor.  If you're willing to help. I can definitely
use it.  I'm also glad you have the programming background.  It will
be quite useful.

> Oh, and are there web-pages you can direct me to which explain:
>  1 - Who's in charge? Who decides when 1.1 is ready to go. Who packages it
> into a CD image? Who approves/rejects packages?

I'm the project coordinator, so I get the honor of making a lot of the
decisions.  Of course, there is a lot of input from the community as
well.

>  2 - The FreeDOS standard file-structure. While MS-DOS would throw
> everything into C:\DOS, FreeDOS uses C:\FDOS\BIN, C:\FDOS\DOC... and some
> stuff is further down in C:\FDOS\BIN\CTMOUSE. Where is the manifesto which
> helps decide what goes where?

I don't think there's anything more than what you'll find on the
current web pages.

Let's take this discussion off line and we can talk some more.  I have
other volunteers as well, and we can start working on it.  Personally,
I won't get any time until later this month, but now is a good time to
start.

If anyone else would like to join in the effort, contact me.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 distribution...

2009-11-01 Thread Pat Villani
Actually, I am less concerned about not having updated packages for
the distribution than I am about a lack of volunteers to put it
together.  As Japheth has suggested, there are simpler ways to create
a new release, but even getting there requires work, which requires
volunteers.

At the moment, I do not have the time to work on it.  Some time in
December, that may change and I may start working on it.  At that
time, I have a couple of weeks of "use it or loose it" vacation time
that I will take.   If all goes as planned, I will do something then.

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Re: [Freedos-user] kernel

2009-10-26 Thread Pat Villani
Hit the Project info link.  It takes you to our sourceforge area where
you can download the latest kernel.

Pat


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Re: [Freedos-user] Twitter...

2009-10-06 Thread Pat Villani
Should still be there. Spelling is different -- FreeDOS_Project.

Pat



On 10/6/09, Florian Xaver  wrote:
> Hi,
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Call for volunteers (Re: Concerns about topics on this mailing list...)

2009-08-22 Thread Pat Villani
Thanks.  I'll be around but mainly running errands today.  I'll
contact you off list to discuss this some more.

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>> Since it seems that there is much interest in producing version 1.1,
>> I'm putting out a call for volunteers.  Please reply with what
>> features and/or utilities you will be working on.
>
> I assume that people will want my USB drivers to be part of the utilities
> released with version 1.1, even though the distribution requirements are not
> GPL-compatible.  I will be continuing to work on those, and could use help
> with them if anybody is interested (documentation, testing, additional
> device drivers, etc.).
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[Freedos-user] Call for volunteers (Re: Concerns about topics on this mailing list...)

2009-08-22 Thread Pat Villani
Since it seems that there is much interest in producing version 1.1,
I'm putting out a call for volunteers.  Please reply with what
features and/or utilities you will be working on.  As project
coordinator, I'll publish a list and start communications between
activities as necessary.  If you would simply like to help but don't
know how, let me know.  I'll check with the various developers and see
how you can contribute.

Once we get everyone working together, we will move discussions to the
appropriate lists: freedos-developer and/or freedos-kernel.  That
should free up this list for user discussions.

I'm sure we can put all the energy I see on this list to good use.
Thank you, in advance, to all who step up to make this happen.

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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS-C and GPL (was Re: Whatever happened to freedos-32?)

2009-08-13 Thread Pat Villani
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Christian Masloch wrote:
*** SNIP ***

> I wasn't aware Richard Stallman is a DOS internals expert. Please don't
> argue by showing me people which don't believe in something, rather, stay
> with actual facts about the kernel and device driver interface or the GPL.


I am not arguing with you.  As project coordinator, I have simply
stated our position.

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[Freedos-user] DOS-C and GPL (was Re: Whatever happened to freedos-32?)

2009-08-13 Thread Pat Villani
With respects to DOS-C, if loading non GPL drivers really did violate
GPL, then it would have never been released under GPL.  The comparison
of drivers to OSLib is an apples and oranges comparison.  A DOS
loadable device driver is simply an executable that is loaded into
memory that follows a certain calling convention.

FreeDOS, or any GPLed MS-DOS alternative, would be totally useless if
it disallowed non GPL device drivers, since the vast majority of
device drivers are non GPL.  Besides, Richard Stallman is well aware
of our project and would have contacted us if he felt we were doing
something wrong.

Pat


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Christian Masloch wrote:


*** SNIP ***

> Reading some old mailing list archives I found, I think it's something
> about the licensing of OSLib. As previously discussed in the BTTR Software
> forum, DOS-C (The FreeDOS Kernel) possibly violates the GPL by allowing to
> load non-GPL DOS device drivers. Now in FreeDOS-32's architecture the
> native drivers and applications are linked into the kernel or something,
> so the OSLib guy said they all have to be licensed under the GPL too when
> using OSLib.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1...

2009-07-29 Thread Pat Villani
Let me address all your fears.  Version 1.1 is being worked on as we speak.

Now, if the folks that are eager to see a version 1.1 are willing to
contribute, let me know and we'll figure out how you can help.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Web site ISP problems

2009-07-06 Thread Pat Villani
It's Tucows, but I don't know if the problem is theirs or our ISP.

Pat


On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Bonnie Dalzell  wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Pat Villani wrote:
>
> > Over the weekend, the ISP that handles our DNS did an upgrade and
> > unfortunately it didn't happen smoothly, so they are effectively down
> right
> > now. Based on what we know, this may take some time before they can
> correct
> > it.
>
> Is that a Tucows managed DNS? That is bad, not just for freedos, Tucows
> is a major manager of domain names.
>
>
> >
> > Until this is fixed, www.freedos.org will not be resolvable in DNS, so
> it
> > will appear as though the FreeDOS site is down. Instead, developers
> > and users can visit the FreeDOS web site at its alternate address:
> > http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ .
> >
> > Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.
> >
> > Special thanks to Jim Hall for all the work he's done with respect to
> this
> > issue.
> >
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[Freedos-user] Web site ISP problems

2009-07-06 Thread Pat Villani
Over the weekend, the ISP that handles our DNS did an upgrade and
unfortunately it didn't happen smoothly, so they are effectively down right
now. Based on what we know, this may take some time before they can correct
it.

Until this is fixed, www.freedos.org will not be resolvable in DNS, so it
will appear as though the FreeDOS site is down. Instead, developers
and users can visit the FreeDOS web site at its alternate address:
http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ .

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

Special thanks to Jim Hall for all the work he's done with respect to this
issue.

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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Twitter

2009-07-02 Thread Pat Villani
Just thought I'd mention that FreeDOS is on twitter at
http://twitter.com/FreeDOS_Project .  Used mainly for news and events in the
project.

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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS and network security...

2009-06-21 Thread Pat Villani
You're pretty much on the right track.  FreeDOS is modeled after
MS-DOS, which has no security features whatsoever.  And you're right,
adding them would be confusing to users, and more than likely break
many applications.  Isolating FreeDOS in some sort of virtualization
such as dosemu, or a vmware type of environmet, would be about the
easiest way of doing it.

By the way, on of the toughest aspects of developing and supporting
FreeDOS is the fact that there is no security and applications reach
in and touch kernel data all the time.  The kernel developers have to
deal with this all the time.

Pat


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> excellent choice for being able to run most old dos programs,
> it's a nightmare from a network security point of view.  I
> suppose there's the option of running it on top of Linux
> and using Linux to control where dos can go on your network,
> but I like to run Freedos natively.  I guess I have gotten
> so used to Linux and Windows NT environments that I am taking
> for granted security gains that exist because there is a
> user context.
>
> DOS was developed before the Internet and before network
> security became a really big deal.
>
> To make dos secure would involve adding a user context to
> all the files and requiring that people log in I suppose,
> but that would be very confusing and I doubt it would be
> compatible.
>
> I'm starting to realize that Dos based Windows which is not
> an OS is also problematic because there's no user context.
> 98SE supposedly has user context, but everyone is an admin.
> Is there a way to enforce user context in 98SE to keep
> people from willy nilly adding accounts to get around
> the security?  Short of locking up dos mode in 98SE,
> people can probably hack their way past anything I'd
> do.
>
> Eric says that there is no censorship with Freedos because
> everyone is an admin.  Uge!  How does one sandbox Freedos
> properly short of running it on top of Linux?
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[Freedos-user] Some simple list rules

2009-06-20 Thread Pat Villani
1. Please remember that this is a users mailing list.  Many of these
folks are non technical and may not understand the ramifications of
what they are asking for.  When something that may be silly to you is
asked, gently try to explain why it is not feasible.  If the question
comes up often enough, I will put it into the FAQ and you can simply
point him or her to it.

2. Do not attack anyone's request.  Making negative comments about
one's intelligence, existence, family, pet, etc. is certainly not
going to help FreeDOS.  All it will do is have that individual turn
away from using FreeDOS and spread negative comments about the
project.

3. Do not act like a troll.  Purposely asking questions that will
start a flame war will not be tolerated.

4. Keep comments on topic.  If you feel the need to change the
direction of the thread, change the subject.

Thank you.

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Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-16 Thread Pat Villani
Folks,

By my count, there have been 26 messages on this thread and it is
going off topic.  Please do not rehash the GPL issues other projects
may or may not had.

Pat



On 6/16/09, Christian Masloch  wrote:
>>> development has been to at least support the
>>> versions of Windows that ran on top of dos.
>>
>> This violates the GPL.
>
> That sounds interesting. Completely implausible, but interesting. In what
> way does it violate the GPL?
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[Freedos-user] Thank you to kernel developers for new kernel 2038

2009-06-13 Thread Pat Villani
I would like to thank all the folks who have worked very hard to
produce this latest kernel.  Their effort is very much appreciated by
myself and all the people who continue to use FreeDOS in various
applications.

I am looking forward to using this new kernel and updating the distribution.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS kernel 2038 now available on sourceforge

2009-06-13 Thread Pat Villani
Thank you Eric.

Pat


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> There is a new sourceforge file release of the FreeDOS kernel:
> Version 2038 is now available with OpenWatcom 8086 FAT16 and
> FAT32 binaries and as source code download. No 386+ or Turbo C
> binaries this time, but please email if you want / made those.
>
> Bart is already working on features as combined country sys and
> built-in country settings support and f_node free operation for
> the next FD kernel, 2039 :-). Thanks to everybody who made the
> 2038 release possible, by using 2036, reporting bugs, writing
> bug reports, documentation of patches, packaging zips etc :-)
>
>
>
> Download:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5109&release_id=689068
>
>
>
> Release Notes and Change Log:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=689068
>
>
>
> Known but almost fixed issues:
>
> - main.c copyright string mentions "1995-2006" ;-)
>
> - you cannot rename things in a full root dir, 2039 will fix
>  this issue which is listed as Bugzilla item 1908 afaik :-)
>
> - partition tables are now read via CHS instead of LBA if possible,
>  might cause regression bugs if BIOS / MBR CHS geometry is wrong?
>
> - files above 2 GB size can cause problems with signedness of
>  file offsets, which is easy to fix if error handling either
>  uses a separate flag or uses "-1" instead of "any negative"
>
> - maybe others
>
>
>
> Bugs fixed in kernel 2038, in no particular order:
>
> - handling of CHS-only BIOSes overflow / off-by-1 fixed by RayeR
>
> - int 21.1c detection of invalid drives fixed by Tom
>
> - CP/M call to support ancient apps, fixed by Bart and others
>  (sourceforge tracker id: 2421577)
>
> - int 21.7303 get FAT32 disk space now accepts drivespec with
>  and without slash, fixing sourceforge tracker item 2380828
>
> - assume that BIOS data cannot be before 1980, fixes y2k BIOS
>  bug compatibility, Bugzilla item 1748
>
> - truename/chdir dir bug for SUBST fixed, Bugzilla item 1862
>
> - SYS now uses buffers when copying kernel and shell, fixes
>  usability bug on single floppy systems, Bugzilla item 1840
>
> - EXE load size handled modulo 1 MB, fixes bug caused by odd
>  header of Turbo C++, Bugzilla item 1854
>
> - int 21.29 now reports invalid drives, fix Bugzilla item 1953
>  as well as SF tracker item 2362450
>
> - use segment instead of offset for handle NULL pointer check,
>  fixing compat bug for FILES alloc apps, Bugzilla item 1956
>
> - fix compatibility with a game using 77a8 attrib in findfirst
>
> - NUL device returns 0 bytes in both raw and cooked mode, fixes
>  DJGPP SED problem. Might fix Bugzilla item 1793, please test!
>
> - avoid f_node panic for critical error int 24 handler, by Tom
>
> - support int 2f.4a00 callback to let a GUI replace the usual
>  "change disk" message on single floppy systems
>
> - fix MS QB4 QBasic / QuickBasic alloc double free compatibility
>
> - you can now use the JEMM FASTBOOT option for int 19 reboot as
>  the kernel now stores some original pre-DOS int vectors in RAM
>
> - MKTEMP filenames now follow DOS 3-4/6 style unless you set the
>  VERSION to 5.x, avoids compat issues with directory choice
>
> - SYS now updates both main and backup boot sectors if FAT32, as
>  some tools (incl DOSFSCK) would show warnings about mismatches
>
> - reboot while files are open is now less likely to cause cross
>  linked files, more secure FAT handling idea by Hardi Stengelin
>
> - improved compatibility with old FCB based apps such as old GEM
>  or GEM/XM versions, fixes sourceforge bug tracker item 2253450
>
>
>
> Please verify that all bugs are fixed and check our bug archives
> to see which other bugs got fixed without being listed above :-)
>
> Candidates: Bugzilla 1753, 1793, 1658, 1779, 1814, 1875, 1923,
> 1828, 1956... Sourceforge 2733092 (QEMM works only with 2037?)
> and 2547549 (problems booting from 1.5 terabyte harddisk ;-)).
>
>
>
> Please report bugs, problems, suggestions, regressions etc, too.
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=5109&atid=105109
> Bugzilla archive: www.freedos.org/bugzilla/ - only for closing bugs
>
> Enjoy the FreeDOS update :-)
>
> Eric
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-10 Thread Pat Villani
Well, I'm not sure that I want to put anything quite like this on the
FreeDOS roadmap.  The effort involved in something like this is about
the same as it is for ReactOS.  And it isn't the basic Windows DLLs,
but all the support DLLs that are necessary for applications to run
properly.  To be honest, we just don't have the developers needed to
get something like this out in a reasonable time frame.  Even if we
started out with something like WINE, there still a very large effort
needed to make it work on top of FreeDOS.

Now, if there's anyone out there who wants to prove me wrong, feel
free.  I'll be glad to give your effort a home in the FreeDOS project
;-)

Pat


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Robinson wrote:
> Most people find that they don't need Windows 3.x, but a lot of software
> needs Windows 9x that won't work properly or at all in Windows NT and
> it's variants XP/2000/Vista/7 etcetera.
>
> One example is Warcraft II Battle Net edition.  A better example is Red
> Alert Command and Conquer I.  Wolfenstein 3D and Blake Stone don't work
> properly in freedos needing either Windows 9x's version of DOS or
> MS-DOS.
>
> I hear about people needing Windows 9x for Garmin GPS software and
> Mapinfo.  Well, Windows 98 second edition is fairly unstable.  The
> ME version of Windows is also unstable and the version of Dos under
> it is kinda hokey I understand.  Worse, 98SE is proprietary software
> which you are supposed to have a license for.  Never mind that these
> days people tend to install 98SE under vmware and don't worry about
> licensing.
>
> ReactOS is not a replacement for Windows on top of DOS, it is a
> replacement for NT that may never become stable.  I try to ask
> what is going to get done in the next release or when XYZ is
> going to get fixed and I get attacked.  ReactOS is developing
> very slowly, there are not enough developers.  It could take
> years to get to 0.5.  There's no telling when 1.0 will come
> out.
>
> So, how are efforts to replace Windows 9x coming along?  Theoretically,
> freedos could support an open source replacement.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Documentation

2009-06-09 Thread Pat Villani
Thanks Laura, these are very good suggestions.

Pat


On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM, LM wrote:
>
> Have some general suggestions for documentation at the FreeDOS web site, 
> mostly as a temporary measure until FreeDOS version 1.1. is released.
>
> I think, for new users like myself, it would be extremely helpful if there 
> was a note on the download page (http://www.freedos.org/freedos/files/) that 
> newer kernel and drivers are available that would make the system more 
> stable.  Also, a link to where to find these updates, maybe pointing to
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/
>
> The other thing I'd find extremely helpful is a page on the wiki with 
> examples on how to set up fdconfig.sys and autoexec.bat (or should that be 
> fdauto.bat).  The page could go through some of the typical 
> programs/drivers/memory manager to add to that file and when and why to use 
> each alternative.  Also, some info on freecom and shell alternatives and 
> nansi.sys or alternatives to color/customize freecom or shells.  Maybe 
> someone can help add some info on it here:
> http://wiki.fdos.org/Installation/CustomStartup
> and/or at some of the wiki pages like this one?
>
> I noticed the link at http://www.freedos.org/freedos/links/ "Free Software 
> for DOS" needs an update.  Had to do the same at my web site a few months 
> back as I also have a link to that page on my web site.  Might also be nice 
> to add the WordPerfect for DOS site to this list 
> http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/  Even though WordPerfect is still 
> proprietary, there are some parts of it that were freely released (with links 
> to pieces at both sites previously mentioned).  Maybe a links page could be 
> added or moved to the wiki so everyone could share their favorite DOS related 
> sites and help keep links up-to-date?
>
> I also added a few minor updates to the wiki on some of this stuff that I 
> thought might be useful to newer users.  Hope it's helpful.
>
> Sincerely,
> Laura
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Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.

2009-05-18 Thread Pat Villani
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:21 AM, dos386  wrote:
> Georg Potthast recently released a (closed source) AC97 thing, also upgrading
> DIGPAK (15 years old) for PCI cards has been suggested.


Key words are: closed source.  Bad idea.

Anybody volunteering to update digipak or write an audio subsystem for FreeDOS?

Pat


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 and Borland compiler v2.0

2009-05-12 Thread Pat Villani
Hi Jim,

I'm just starting as project coordinator, so excuse me if it takes a
little time to address this, but I'll keep it in mind for future
releases.  If you address this on the developer list, maybe someone
else has seen it and may be able to help you.

Pat

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jim Lemon  wrote:
> Hi gang,
> I had to do some programming on the DOS human performance tests that I
> wrote after a considerable break. I had downloaded FreeDOS 1.0 a while
> ago and fortunately hadn't gotten around to installing it until a few
> days ago. When I tried to recompile some code, the compiler started
> throwing errors like:
>
> Can't open file c:\bc\lib\emu.lib
>
> even though the files were all there with no access restrictions. The
> command line compiler gave similar errors, as did the command line
> linker. As about the only thing I had done was to install the new
> version of FreeDOS, I laboriously copied the essential Borland
> installation to an ancient laptop that I use as a lab machine (using
> 1.44M floppies!). This had the same version of FreeDOS that I had
> replaced. Sure enough, the compiler worked again and I got the
> executable. I don't know what went wrong, but perhaps this will uncover
> something that can be fixed for the next release.
>
> Jim

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Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.

2009-05-12 Thread Pat Villani
Hi Kurt,

In general, sound cards are handled directly under most DOS
environments.  You may want to look at the source code for several
games to see how it is done.

Another solution is to look at the Allegro library at <
http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ >.  I haven't used it in several years
but it seemed to work nicely for the miniITX hardware I was using at
the time.

Personally, I have not tried any digital modes on FreeDOS.  My
personal favorite is fldigi which I run mainly under Linux and
occasionally under XP.

What sort of support were you looking for?  Are you thinking of doing
some development?

Pat


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, kurt godel  wrote:
> My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities
> with in and out jacks; I wish
> to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need
> to send and recieve tones.
> Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks?
> --kurt.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.

2009-05-12 Thread Pat Villani
Hi Kurt,

In general, sound cards are handled directly under most DOS
environments.  You may want to look at the source code for several
games to see how it is done.

Another solution is to look at the Allegro library at <
http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ >.  I haven't used it in several years
but it seemed to work nicely for the miniITX hardware I was using at
the time.

Personally, I have not tried any digital modes on FreeDOS.  My
personal favorite is fldigi which I run mainly under Linux and
occasionally under XP.

What sort of support were you looking for?  Are you thinking of doing
some development?

Pat

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, kurt godel  wrote:
> My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities
> with in and out jacks; I wish
> to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need
> to send and recieve tones.
> Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks?
> --kurt.

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Re: [Freedos-user] File Wizard 1.35 source code...

2007-02-25 Thread Pat Villani
The page is fine.  The zip files are gone, but the exe files are there.

Pat


Florian Xaver wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the link to the source code is dead at
> http://web.archive.org/web/20040202201059/http://www.nexus.hu/gad/fw/index.html.
>
> Has anybody this file? I would like to store it at Club Dr-DOS
>
> Thanks
>  Flo
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[Freedos-user] New email test - hit delete

2007-02-16 Thread Pat Villani
Just a test of my subscription for my new email address.

Thanks.

Pat



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Re: [Freedos-user] More FreeDOS usage

2007-01-24 Thread Pat Villani
Thanks.  I've been here all along, just sitting back and letting the 
community do its thing.

This goes back a while.  Even when I was with hp, they were distributing 
the disk with new units; just not as obvious.  That was almost two years 
ago, and I'm sure the same people are still there making the same 
decisions to distribute FreeDOS with more systems.  I'm sure we'll see 
more and more.

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[Freedos-user] More FreeDOS usage

2007-01-24 Thread Pat Villani
I hadn't seen this brought up yet, but more FreeDOS shipped with new 
systems:

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
 



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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos

2005-04-03 Thread Pat Villani
Geraldo Netto wrote:
  and even where
is Pat Villani?
 

I'm here and on the kernel list.  I just add my $0.02 US when I see 
something that I feel strongly about.  Otherwise, no need to interfere.  
Development is going just fine without me.

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