Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS
Oh, I know that. Last year I spent several months talking to them and HP was bold enough to say WHo needs you. It's free. Complete ignorance on their part, which makes me very happy I left the several years ago. Point is that they do distribute it and it is an opportunity to possibly showcase future enhancements. Also, there are people who purchase them for legacy applications, although under the misunderstanding that HP will support FreeDOS. I've heard from plenty of those people. Pat On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote: See HP, Dell, Asus, etc. They all happen to ship FreeDOS on their systems. See HP, Dell, Asus, and you will learn quickly that FreeDOS is a synonym for 'without operating system', intended for people that install their own OS (which is most likely NOT FreeDOS) On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Willi Wasser wiw...@web.de wrote: You'd probably be amazed at how many embedded and industrial control systems are based on DOS. Indeed! If someone pointed me out precize brands and models of systems that nowadays still use DOS i would really be amazed. (Are those systems just still around, or is there even real active development?) My personal experience is different. The last time i professionally came in touch with DOS was in late 1999. That's more than a decade ago. In the rapidly developing IT busyness this is almost an eternity. Is this phenomenon (if it really exists) perhaps limited to certain busynesses or certain parts of the world? It might be interesting to have some kind of survey. Tom -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Discover what all the cheering's about. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-dev2dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Discover what all the cheering's about. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-dev2dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS
See HP, Dell, Asus, etc. They all happen to ship FreeDOS on their systems. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Willi Wasser wiw...@web.de wrote: You'd probably be amazed at how many embedded and industrial control systems are based on DOS. Indeed! If someone pointed me out precize brands and models of systems that nowadays still use DOS i would really be amazed. (Are those systems just still around, or is there even real active development?) My personal experience is different. The last time i professionally came in touch with DOS was in late 1999. That's more than a decade ago. In the rapidly developing IT busyness this is almost an eternity. Is this phenomenon (if it really exists) perhaps limited to certain busynesses or certain parts of the world? It might be interesting to have some kind of survey. ___ Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Discover what all the cheering's about. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-dev2dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Discover what all the cheering's about. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-dev2dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?
OK, I'm afraid I let this thread get out of hand. This is a passionate group. The fact of the matter is simple. Hardware does progress and we, the FreeDOS developers, have to accommodate new hardware. We may not do it as quickly as some like, but nonetheless, we do. There will come a time where certain hardware will no longer be supported. The simple fact of the matter is that the hardware may no longer be available to test on, or that supporting very old hardware interferes with supporting new hardware. When that happens, we will deal with it. Please try to continue this discussion in a manner that will result in a productive outcome. Pat Villani Project Coordinator -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. And it wants your games. http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Heads-up about FreeDOS Wikipedia.org page
Thanks for the heads up. I'll look at it later today. Pat On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, john s wolter johnswol...@wolterworks.comwrote: I've visited the FreeDOS Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDOSpage that appears somewhat out of date, I think. I don't know whose working the documentation effort but they may want to put some time into updating that resource. I have read the article and found it very useful. I use Wikipedia for the instant learning I need for software development and support work. You can't know everything so it is a quick reference to just about anything. Remember, Wikipedia is your friend. It is a well traveled path. Cheers. - jsw -- The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Talk this Tuesday
My apologies for cross posting. If you have access to Brookdale Community College in Lincroft, NJ, and want to hear a talk given by yours truly, stop by this Tuesday, November 23. The talk will be on operating system tool chains, debugging and writing OS start up code, and it is based on a couple of small, 32-bit kernels that I came up with to illustrate the principles behind the talk. The talk will be in Larrison Hall 113 and will start at noon. Thanks for the bandwidth. Pat -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user, SoundBlaster ?
Dosbox is an emulator that emulates an x86 processor and PC hardware. In this way, it is similar to qemu or bochs. It goes one step beyond in that they added to the emulator a DOS-like interface that maps the native file system into the DOS system calls, as well as the remaining DOS and BIOS system calls. Sound blaster refers to a set of ISA boards that were manufactured in the late 1980s and early 1990s. These cards were backward compatible in both hardware and API. The most common was the Sound Blaster 16 (SB-16) that emulators like dosbox, qemu and bochs emulate and map into the host operating system API. This is why the program recognizes sound blaster in dosbox. Most likely, your sound hardware is not SB-16 compatible, which explains why the program does not recognize your sound subsystem. Mpxplay is capable of recognizing many more cards, including Intel ICH (PC97) and Intel HDA which is common on most recent computers. Pat On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Garrison Ricketson garryricket...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, every one, Just to say hello and I have been reading the news letters, as the come in,.. Actually maybe one question, I may have asked this along time ago, and either missed the answer, or never was one... I have a PacMan game, that is intended for Dos, it runs well with FreeDos, also,..but it never can detect sound blaster, and that is the only sound device it can use... The game, dose not run in Windows, nor is intended to, but with Dos Box it will, When run from Dos Box, it dose detect sound blaster,...and the sound works.. When I boot with Dos, it (the pac man ) runs well, but dose not have sound,..and the same when I have booted with FreeDosOk apparently, in the windows partition,there is either sound blaster or a emulator...howver since niether of my Dos partions, read the windows partition(NTFS)...no sound blaster is detectedSo,How can, or where can I get sound blaster (or a emulator), for Dos,...? Do I need to get a whole new SB,.. that is for Dos? MPXPLAY, is working great for music, on the FreeDos, ...so the sound capabiltys are there, but this PacMan, and it is in the readme doc, will only work with sound blaster... Ok well thats about it, for now from Garry visit my webb page:http://garryspages.webs.com My New page,my gallery http://www.GarrysPaintings.webs.com Garrison Ricketson -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos-user, SoundBlaster ?
That's Bochs. Pat On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:21 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: Dosbox is an emulator that emulates an x86 processor and PC hardware In this way, it is similar to qemu or bochs good ... It goes one step beyond in that they added to the emulator a DOS-like interface that maps the native file system into the DOS system calls, as well as the remaining DOS and BIOS system calls. I might add that I would not generally recommend using the DOSBox built-in DOS To be useful for me, 2 things would have to change: - Remove the word DOS from the name (the thing is unable to boot into a PC, so it's not a OS and thus not a DOS) - Remove the DOS-like interface that maps the native file system (so turn it into a clean 80386 / 80486 / early Pentium PC emulator) -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any news on FreeDOS 1.1?
We are assessing what needs to be done in order to scope out the effort. I am just now starting to talk to the maintainers. Pat On 8/9/10, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote: Hi! As time passes by and I didn't hear anything from the update guys for the last month: Is there any progress on bringing FreeDOS 1.1 to life? In April I wrote to some guys: Put all this stuff to a wiki, e.g., to wiki.fdos.org, where anyone can see the progress (hopefully) and help to get things done. So create a public task or to-do list. Nothing happened. :-/ Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Sent from my mobile device -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Project Coordinator's Request (was Re: Eric Auer's A Fantasy of a future...)
Please drop the A Fantasy of a future... thread. It has degenerated and gone on long enough. Pat Villani FreeDOS Project Coordinator -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Eric Auer's A Fantasy of a future...
As I said in a separate post, Please drop this discussion. Pat Villani Project Coordinator On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Ron Spruell Sr. sprue...@bellsouth.netwrote: Folks, this guy stated he was kicked off some forums, seems he came here for another confrontation, I for one would not give him that. Ron Spruell Sr. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] website design
Thanks Bonnie. There are others who volunteered as well, so our plan is to have the community vote on what they like. I hope you don't mind. Pat On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Bonnie Dalzell bdalz...@qis.net wrote: I do web sites and graphics I do not do css from scratch or java script however. I would be happy to redo the freedos website if you need it done as long as you do not want java scripts or complex css. i am a regular FreeDos user with no programming skills other than website design to contribut to the project. Some of my web sites are in the address line below It appears to me that the site at www.freedos.or is based on a standard wiki template. it appears pretty easy to navigate. what is wrong with it in the opinion of the users? Although I do not do css from scratch I can tweak subsections of a css page. ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060| EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net email%3abdalz...@qis.net Freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. HOME www.batw.netART bdalzellart.batw.net BUSINESS www.boardingatwedge.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Help us redesign www.freedos.org
Actually, I did not think of it. Thanks. Pat On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Chris Schumann chris.schum...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Pat Villani wb2...@gmail.com wrote: If you're a web designer or would like to try your hand at web design, here's your chance. Help us update the FreeDOS web site design! Was this submitted to the news sites, such as slashdot? Submitting to designer communities would be a good idea too. Chris -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Help us redesign www.freedos.org
Hi all, As you all know, the FreeDOS web site is run by volunteers, all of which are programmers and not web designers. Now we're asking for help. If you're a web designer or would like to try your hand at web design, here's your chance. Help us update the FreeDOS web site design! Web designers can submit their design idea via email. We'll post the top finalists and provide a way for people to vote for their favorite new web design. In recognition, we'll provide a “Original site design by your name” link in the footer. Our site gets tens of thousands of hits per day, and that link will help you get seen. This could be a resume-builder for you to break into web design, or a reference for your portfolio if you're already a professional web designer. If you're interested, details are at Jim Hall's blog: http://www.freedos.org/jhall/ and at http://sourceforge.net/userapps/wordpress/jhall1/2009/10/20/are-you-a-web-developer/ . Thanks. Pat -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-devel] How can I help with FreeDOS 1.1?
Hi Joe, Welcome. Some answers: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Joe Emenaker j...@emenaker.com wrote: snip *** So, anyway, I'm excited about FreeDOS 1.1, and I want to help get it out the door. Thank you for volunteering. As far as what I can offer. I'm pretty fluent in DOS batch programming, linux bash, Perl, Java, C... a few others. It appears that FreeDOS uses a packaging system. Well, I've rolled some of my own packages for Debian, and I don't think FreeDOS's packaging system can be more complicated and Debian's. Oh, and I've got some free time. So... what needs doing? Time is a major factor. If you're willing to help. I can definitely use it. I'm also glad you have the programming background. It will be quite useful. Oh, and are there web-pages you can direct me to which explain: 1 - Who's in charge? Who decides when 1.1 is ready to go. Who packages it into a CD image? Who approves/rejects packages? I'm the project coordinator, so I get the honor of making a lot of the decisions. Of course, there is a lot of input from the community as well. 2 - The FreeDOS standard file-structure. While MS-DOS would throw everything into C:\DOS, FreeDOS uses C:\FDOS\BIN, C:\FDOS\DOC... and some stuff is further down in C:\FDOS\BIN\CTMOUSE. Where is the manifesto which helps decide what goes where? I don't think there's anything more than what you'll find on the current web pages. Let's take this discussion off line and we can talk some more. I have other volunteers as well, and we can start working on it. Personally, I won't get any time until later this month, but now is a good time to start. If anyone else would like to join in the effort, contact me. Pat -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 distribution...
Actually, I am less concerned about not having updated packages for the distribution than I am about a lack of volunteers to put it together. As Japheth has suggested, there are simpler ways to create a new release, but even getting there requires work, which requires volunteers. At the moment, I do not have the time to work on it. Some time in December, that may change and I may start working on it. At that time, I have a couple of weeks of use it or loose it vacation time that I will take. If all goes as planned, I will do something then. Pat P.S., For those not in the USA, here you can only carry over a limited number of hours from one year to the next. In essence, you are paid for working hard and not taking vacation by loosing your vacation time. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] kernel
Hit the Project info link. It takes you to our sourceforge area where you can download the latest kernel. Pat 2009/10/26 Buzzer 4625...@gmail.com: Where I can download latest kernel? I'm wonder, there is no links on freedos.org. -- /Buzzer () кампания ascii ribbon - против писем в html формате /\ www.asciiribbon.org - против проприетарных вложений -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Twitter...
Should still be there. Spelling is different -- FreeDOS_Project. Pat On 10/6/09, Florian Xaver f...@drdos.org wrote: Hi, why is http://twitter.com/FreeDOS_Projekt gone? I liked it! Bye Flo -- Florian Xaver http://www.drdos.org http://www.flox.at.tf -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Sent from my mobile device -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Call for volunteers (Re: Concerns about topics on this mailing list...)
Since it seems that there is much interest in producing version 1.1, I'm putting out a call for volunteers. Please reply with what features and/or utilities you will be working on. As project coordinator, I'll publish a list and start communications between activities as necessary. If you would simply like to help but don't know how, let me know. I'll check with the various developers and see how you can contribute. Once we get everyone working together, we will move discussions to the appropriate lists: freedos-developer and/or freedos-kernel. That should free up this list for user discussions. I'm sure we can put all the energy I see on this list to good use. Thank you, in advance, to all who step up to make this happen. Pat -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Call for volunteers (Re: Concerns about topics on this mailing list...)
Thanks. I'll be around but mainly running errands today. I'll contact you off list to discuss this some more. Pat On 8/22/09, Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com wrote: Since it seems that there is much interest in producing version 1.1, I'm putting out a call for volunteers. Please reply with what features and/or utilities you will be working on. I assume that people will want my USB drivers to be part of the utilities released with version 1.1, even though the distribution requirements are not GPL-compatible. I will be continuing to work on those, and could use help with them if anybody is interested (documentation, testing, additional device drivers, etc.). -- Bret Johnson The only things you get to keep forever are the ones you give away. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Sent from my mobile device -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] DOS-C and GPL (was Re: Whatever happened to freedos-32?)
With respects to DOS-C, if loading non GPL drivers really did violate GPL, then it would have never been released under GPL. The comparison of drivers to OSLib is an apples and oranges comparison. A DOS loadable device driver is simply an executable that is loaded into memory that follows a certain calling convention. FreeDOS, or any GPLed MS-DOS alternative, would be totally useless if it disallowed non GPL device drivers, since the vast majority of device drivers are non GPL. Besides, Richard Stallman is well aware of our project and would have contacted us if he felt we were doing something wrong. Pat On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Christian Maslochc...@bttr-software.de wrote: *** SNIP *** Reading some old mailing list archives I found, I think it's something about the licensing of OSLib. As previously discussed in the BTTR Software forum, DOS-C (The FreeDOS Kernel) possibly violates the GPL by allowing to load non-GPL DOS device drivers. Now in FreeDOS-32's architecture the native drivers and applications are linked into the kernel or something, so the OSLib guy said they all have to be licensed under the GPL too when using OSLib. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS-C and GPL (was Re: Whatever happened to freedos-32?)
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Christian Maslochc...@bttr-software.de wrote: *** SNIP *** I wasn't aware Richard Stallman is a DOS internals expert. Please don't argue by showing me people which don't believe in something, rather, stay with actual facts about the kernel and device driver interface or the GPL. I am not arguing with you. As project coordinator, I have simply stated our position. Pat -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1...
Let me address all your fears. Version 1.1 is being worked on as we speak. Now, if the folks that are eager to see a version 1.1 are willing to contribute, let me know and we'll figure out how you can help. Pat -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Web site ISP problems
It's Tucows, but I don't know if the problem is theirs or our ISP. Pat On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Bonnie Dalzell bdalz...@qis.net wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Pat Villani wrote: Over the weekend, the ISP that handles our DNS did an upgrade and unfortunately it didn't happen smoothly, so they are effectively down right now. Based on what we know, this may take some time before they can correct it. Is that a Tucows managed DNS? That is bad, not just for freedos, Tucows is a major manager of domain names. Until this is fixed, www.freedos.org will not be resolvable in DNS, so it will appear as though the FreeDOS site is down. Instead, developers and users can visit the FreeDOS web site at its alternate address: http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ . Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. Special thanks to Jim Hall for all the work he's done with respect to this issue. Pat ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd PO Box 60, Hydes,MD,USA 21082-0060| EMAIL:bdalz...@qis.net email%3abdalz...@qis.net freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ http://www.qis.net/%7Eborzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Twitter
Just thought I'd mention that FreeDOS is on twitter at http://twitter.com/FreeDOS_Project . Used mainly for news and events in the project. Pat -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS and network security...
You're pretty much on the right track. FreeDOS is modeled after MS-DOS, which has no security features whatsoever. And you're right, adding them would be confusing to users, and more than likely break many applications. Isolating FreeDOS in some sort of virtualization such as dosemu, or a vmware type of environmet, would be about the easiest way of doing it. By the way, on of the toughest aspects of developing and supporting FreeDOS is the fact that there is no security and applications reach in and touch kernel data all the time. The kernel developers have to deal with this all the time. Pat On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Michael Robinsonplu...@robinson-west.com wrote: It's starting to dawn on me that although Freedos is an excellent choice for being able to run most old dos programs, it's a nightmare from a network security point of view. I suppose there's the option of running it on top of Linux and using Linux to control where dos can go on your network, but I like to run Freedos natively. I guess I have gotten so used to Linux and Windows NT environments that I am taking for granted security gains that exist because there is a user context. DOS was developed before the Internet and before network security became a really big deal. To make dos secure would involve adding a user context to all the files and requiring that people log in I suppose, but that would be very confusing and I doubt it would be compatible. I'm starting to realize that Dos based Windows which is not an OS is also problematic because there's no user context. 98SE supposedly has user context, but everyone is an admin. Is there a way to enforce user context in 98SE to keep people from willy nilly adding accounts to get around the security? Short of locking up dos mode in 98SE, people can probably hack their way past anything I'd do. Eric says that there is no censorship with Freedos because everyone is an admin. Uge! How does one sandbox Freedos properly short of running it on top of Linux? -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Some simple list rules
1. Please remember that this is a users mailing list. Many of these folks are non technical and may not understand the ramifications of what they are asking for. When something that may be silly to you is asked, gently try to explain why it is not feasible. If the question comes up often enough, I will put it into the FAQ and you can simply point him or her to it. 2. Do not attack anyone's request. Making negative comments about one's intelligence, existence, family, pet, etc. is certainly not going to help FreeDOS. All it will do is have that individual turn away from using FreeDOS and spread negative comments about the project. 3. Do not act like a troll. Purposely asking questions that will start a flame war will not be tolerated. 4. Keep comments on topic. If you feel the need to change the direction of the thread, change the subject. Thank you. Pat -- Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS kernel 2038 now available on sourceforge
Thank you Eric. Pat On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Eric Auere.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi everybody, There is a new sourceforge file release of the FreeDOS kernel: Version 2038 is now available with OpenWatcom 8086 FAT16 and FAT32 binaries and as source code download. No 386+ or Turbo C binaries this time, but please email if you want / made those. Bart is already working on features as combined country sys and built-in country settings support and f_node free operation for the next FD kernel, 2039 :-). Thanks to everybody who made the 2038 release possible, by using 2036, reporting bugs, writing bug reports, documentation of patches, packaging zips etc :-) Download: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5109release_id=689068 Release Notes and Change Log: https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=689068 Known but almost fixed issues: - main.c copyright string mentions 1995-2006 ;-) - you cannot rename things in a full root dir, 2039 will fix this issue which is listed as Bugzilla item 1908 afaik :-) - partition tables are now read via CHS instead of LBA if possible, might cause regression bugs if BIOS / MBR CHS geometry is wrong? - files above 2 GB size can cause problems with signedness of file offsets, which is easy to fix if error handling either uses a separate flag or uses -1 instead of any negative - maybe others Bugs fixed in kernel 2038, in no particular order: - handling of CHS-only BIOSes overflow / off-by-1 fixed by RayeR - int 21.1c detection of invalid drives fixed by Tom - CP/M call to support ancient apps, fixed by Bart and others (sourceforge tracker id: 2421577) - int 21.7303 get FAT32 disk space now accepts drivespec with and without slash, fixing sourceforge tracker item 2380828 - assume that BIOS data cannot be before 1980, fixes y2k BIOS bug compatibility, Bugzilla item 1748 - truename/chdir dir bug for SUBST fixed, Bugzilla item 1862 - SYS now uses buffers when copying kernel and shell, fixes usability bug on single floppy systems, Bugzilla item 1840 - EXE load size handled modulo 1 MB, fixes bug caused by odd header of Turbo C++, Bugzilla item 1854 - int 21.29 now reports invalid drives, fix Bugzilla item 1953 as well as SF tracker item 2362450 - use segment instead of offset for handle NULL pointer check, fixing compat bug for FILES alloc apps, Bugzilla item 1956 - fix compatibility with a game using 77a8 attrib in findfirst - NUL device returns 0 bytes in both raw and cooked mode, fixes DJGPP SED problem. Might fix Bugzilla item 1793, please test! - avoid f_node panic for critical error int 24 handler, by Tom - support int 2f.4a00 callback to let a GUI replace the usual change disk message on single floppy systems - fix MS QB4 QBasic / QuickBasic alloc double free compatibility - you can now use the JEMM FASTBOOT option for int 19 reboot as the kernel now stores some original pre-DOS int vectors in RAM - MKTEMP filenames now follow DOS 3-4/6 style unless you set the VERSION to 5.x, avoids compat issues with directory choice - SYS now updates both main and backup boot sectors if FAT32, as some tools (incl DOSFSCK) would show warnings about mismatches - reboot while files are open is now less likely to cause cross linked files, more secure FAT handling idea by Hardi Stengelin - improved compatibility with old FCB based apps such as old GEM or GEM/XM versions, fixes sourceforge bug tracker item 2253450 Please verify that all bugs are fixed and check our bug archives to see which other bugs got fixed without being listed above :-) Candidates: Bugzilla 1753, 1793, 1658, 1779, 1814, 1875, 1923, 1828, 1956... Sourceforge 2733092 (QEMM works only with 2037?) and 2547549 (problems booting from 1.5 terabyte harddisk ;-)). Please report bugs, problems, suggestions, regressions etc, too. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browsegroup_id=5109atid=105109 Bugzilla archive: www.freedos.org/bugzilla/ - only for closing bugs Enjoy the FreeDOS update :-) Eric -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects
Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...
Well, I'm not sure that I want to put anything quite like this on the FreeDOS roadmap. The effort involved in something like this is about the same as it is for ReactOS. And it isn't the basic Windows DLLs, but all the support DLLs that are necessary for applications to run properly. To be honest, we just don't have the developers needed to get something like this out in a reasonable time frame. Even if we started out with something like WINE, there still a very large effort needed to make it work on top of FreeDOS. Now, if there's anyone out there who wants to prove me wrong, feel free. I'll be glad to give your effort a home in the FreeDOS project ;-) Pat On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Michael Robinsonplu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Most people find that they don't need Windows 3.x, but a lot of software needs Windows 9x that won't work properly or at all in Windows NT and it's variants XP/2000/Vista/7 etcetera. One example is Warcraft II Battle Net edition. A better example is Red Alert Command and Conquer I. Wolfenstein 3D and Blake Stone don't work properly in freedos needing either Windows 9x's version of DOS or MS-DOS. I hear about people needing Windows 9x for Garmin GPS software and Mapinfo. Well, Windows 98 second edition is fairly unstable. The ME version of Windows is also unstable and the version of Dos under it is kinda hokey I understand. Worse, 98SE is proprietary software which you are supposed to have a license for. Never mind that these days people tend to install 98SE under vmware and don't worry about licensing. ReactOS is not a replacement for Windows on top of DOS, it is a replacement for NT that may never become stable. I try to ask what is going to get done in the next release or when XYZ is going to get fixed and I get attacked. ReactOS is developing very slowly, there are not enough developers. It could take years to get to 0.5. There's no telling when 1.0 will come out. So, how are efforts to replace Windows 9x coming along? Theoretically, freedos could support an open source replacement. -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Documentation
Thanks Laura, these are very good suggestions. Pat On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM, LMlme...@yahoo.com wrote: Have some general suggestions for documentation at the FreeDOS web site, mostly as a temporary measure until FreeDOS version 1.1. is released. I think, for new users like myself, it would be extremely helpful if there was a note on the download page (http://www.freedos.org/freedos/files/) that newer kernel and drivers are available that would make the system more stable. Also, a link to where to find these updates, maybe pointing to http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/ The other thing I'd find extremely helpful is a page on the wiki with examples on how to set up fdconfig.sys and autoexec.bat (or should that be fdauto.bat). The page could go through some of the typical programs/drivers/memory manager to add to that file and when and why to use each alternative. Also, some info on freecom and shell alternatives and nansi.sys or alternatives to color/customize freecom or shells. Maybe someone can help add some info on it here: http://wiki.fdos.org/Installation/CustomStartup and/or at some of the wiki pages like this one? I noticed the link at http://www.freedos.org/freedos/links/ Free Software for DOS needs an update. Had to do the same at my web site a few months back as I also have a link to that page on my web site. Might also be nice to add the WordPerfect for DOS site to this list http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/ Even though WordPerfect is still proprietary, there are some parts of it that were freely released (with links to pieces at both sites previously mentioned). Maybe a links page could be added or moved to the wiki so everyone could share their favorite DOS related sites and help keep links up-to-date? I also added a few minor updates to the wiki on some of this stuff that I thought might be useful to newer users. Hope it's helpful. Sincerely, Laura http://www.distasis.com/distasis/write.htm -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:21 AM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: Georg Potthast recently released a (closed source) AC97 thing, also upgrading DIGPAK (15 years old) for PCI cards has been suggested. Key words are: closed source. Bad idea. Anybody volunteering to update digipak or write an audio subsystem for FreeDOS? Pat -- Amateur Radio Station: WB2GBF U.S. Army MARS station: AAR2BY/T -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Hi Kurt, In general, sound cards are handled directly under most DOS environments. You may want to look at the source code for several games to see how it is done. Another solution is to look at the Allegro library at http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ . I haven't used it in several years but it seemed to work nicely for the miniITX hardware I was using at the time. Personally, I have not tried any digital modes on FreeDOS. My personal favorite is fldigi which I run mainly under Linux and occasionally under XP. What sort of support were you looking for? Are you thinking of doing some development? Pat On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurtwb2...@gmail.com. -- Amateur Radio Station: WB2GBF U.S. Army MARS station: AAR2BY/T -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.
Hi Kurt, In general, sound cards are handled directly under most DOS environments. You may want to look at the source code for several games to see how it is done. Another solution is to look at the Allegro library at http://alleg.sourceforge.net/ . I haven't used it in several years but it seemed to work nicely for the miniITX hardware I was using at the time. Personally, I have not tried any digital modes on FreeDOS. My personal favorite is fldigi which I run mainly under Linux and occasionally under XP. What sort of support were you looking for? Are you thinking of doing some development? Pat On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: My two computers(one old, one newish) both have decent sound capabilities with in and out jacks; I wish to use this to implement audio frequency shift keying(AFSK), in which I need to send and recieve tones. Is there a way, using only dos, to access the i/o jacks? --kurtwb2...@gmail.com. -- Amateur Radio Station: WB2GBF U.S. Army MARS station: AAR2BY/T -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 and Borland compiler v2.0
Hi Jim, I'm just starting as project coordinator, so excuse me if it takes a little time to address this, but I'll keep it in mind for future releases. If you address this on the developer list, maybe someone else has seen it and may be able to help you. Pat On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jim Lemon j...@bitwrit.com.au wrote: Hi gang, I had to do some programming on the DOS human performance tests that I wrote after a considerable break. I had downloaded FreeDOS 1.0 a while ago and fortunately hadn't gotten around to installing it until a few days ago. When I tried to recompile some code, the compiler started throwing errors like: Can't open file c:\bc\lib\emu.lib even though the files were all there with no access restrictions. The command line compiler gave similar errors, as did the command line linker. As about the only thing I had done was to install the new version of FreeDOS, I laboriously copied the essential Borland installation to an ancient laptop that I use as a lab machine (using 1.44M floppies!). This had the same version of FreeDOS that I had replaced. Sure enough, the compiler worked again and I got the executable. I don't know what went wrong, but perhaps this will uncover something that can be fixed for the next release. Jim -- Amateur Radio Station: WB2GBF U.S. Army MARS station: AAR2BY/T -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] File Wizard 1.35 source code...
The page is fine. The zip files are gone, but the exe files are there. Pat Florian Xaver wrote: Hi, the link to the source code is dead at http://web.archive.org/web/20040202201059/http://www.nexus.hu/gad/fw/index.html. Has anybody this file? I would like to store it at Club Dr-DOS Thanks Flo - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] New email test - hit delete
Just a test of my subscription for my new email address. Thanks. Pat - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] More FreeDOS usage
I hadn't seen this brought up yet, but more FreeDOS shipped with new systems: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] More FreeDOS usage
Thanks. I've been here all along, just sitting back and letting the community do its thing. This goes back a while. Even when I was with hp, they were distributing the disk with new units; just not as obvious. That was almost two years ago, and I'm sure the same people are still there making the same decisions to distribute FreeDOS with more systems. I'm sure we'll see more and more. Pat - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
