Re: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB?
Thanks for your note Bernd.Some good ideas I can try. Dave -Original Message- From: Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl To: freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2012 12:11 pm Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB? Op 6-6-2012 17:08, cordat...@aol.com schreef: On most OHCI drivers (including DOSUSB), the driver will load but then the keyboard starts acting erratically. (I'm using PS2 keyboard not USB) Effectively the computer is not usable at this point - I suppose I could write a batch file to test whether it is strictly a keyboard problem or if there are other problems. I've succesfully used Georg's DOSUSB v2.0 with USB flash drive containing a single active primary FAT32 partition. Problem is my USB keyboard then typically gets disabled as DOSUSB replaces BIOS drivers by its own stack, but a keyboard driver isn't present currently within DOSUSB. My final solution was to get a PCI-express USB 3.0 controller card. As add-in cards aren't bootable (no bootrom, no driver in BIOS) nor seen in DOS, I'm booting from some slow USB flash drive, which loads DOSUSB 3.0 and thus gains access to the fast flash drive connected to the add-in card. As all other devices are on USB1/USB2 ports, they don't get disabled by the USB3-only DOSUSB 3.0 driver. All in all, this works pretty well for me. The downside is that the slow USB stick that I boot from, gets drive C: assigned, which I dislike. Messing around with Syslinux, Memdisk and floppy image files works around this nicely, so I can keep C: available for either a ramdisk drive, or for the USB3.0 flash drive. Alternative options are loading this driver from a floppy drive, or cdrom or something, but that's slower. If this device you're loading from is USB as well, you're in trouble as soon as loading DOSUSB v2.0 (it resets the controller, thus also the connected drives, and you end up with a hung system). DOSUSB will find the device and set up a drive. If I use a FAT16 device I can get things working reasonably well but a directory listing will wind up crashing the system and creating all sorts of bad behavior. (Yes, I understand that directory listing may take a long time but my expectation is that it would not crash the OS) I've experienced that DOSUSB sometimes needs a bit longer initialisation time. You might also want to check the errorcode generated by it. My way of solving it was to load and unload DOSUSB a few times, once no more errorcode, I load USBDISK.SYS so the USB flash disk gets mapped. If I use a FAT32 device all hell breaks loose when trying to access the USB disk, FCB error messages or other scrolling messages pop up and the computer must be reset. Any other older kernels or MSDOS suffering the same behaviour? I've got most luck with JEMMEX combined with DOSUSB. Anyway, I'm hoping my next machine can boot natively from USB3.0 ports/devices in UEFI (and BIOS!) at above-USB2.0 speeds. Heck, Apple even made FireWire (and Thunderbolt?) bootable on years old EFI. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB?
I've tried the Panasonic driver, it hangs on my PC. Also tried DUSE, Iomega and whatever else was on a boot disk which someone put together. Didn't bother trying Bret's drivers because I have EHCI / OHCI. Georg's DOSUSB is the only one that works for me to some degree. Just curious if there is anyone out there who's used FreeDOS with kernel 2041 and Georg's drivers on USB mass storage devices formatted for Fat32? My point being that if yes, things are working great for someone then I'm going to give up. If no, then I'll try MS-DOS 7.0/7.1 with my MB and see if that helps at all. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: spvh66 spv...@myopera.com To: freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Fri, Jun 1, 2012 2:37 am Subject: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB? And http://panasonic.jp/com/support/drive/other/f2h_usb.html doesnt work? -- spv...@myopera.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB?
Hi! Didn't bother trying Bret's drivers because I have EHCI / OHCI. Georg's DOSUSB is the only one that works for me to some degree. EHCI = USB 2.0, OHCI = similar to UHCI, both USB 1.x... (you have no XHCI = USB 3.0 I guess) In what ways do the DOSUSB drivers work, in which ways do they not? Bret's drivers are only for UHCI (www.bretjohnson.us says that OHCI, EHCI, WHCI, XHCI may be added later?) so I guess this is why you did not try those. someone then I'm going to give up. If no, then I'll try MS-DOS 7.0/7.1 with my MB and see if that helps at all. I doubt that it makes a difference on which DOS you are running the same drivers. By the way, are there any USB storage drivers available in your BIOS itself? Eric -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB?
Hi Eric, My MB has EHCI/USB 2.0 and OHCI/USB 1.1. My understanding was Bret's drivers are strictly UHCI. On most OHCI drivers (including DOSUSB), the driver will load but then the keyboard starts acting erratically. (I'm using PS2 keyboard not USB) Effectively the computer is not usable at this point - I suppose I could write a batch file to test whether it is strictly a keyboard problem or if there are other problems. If I disable OHCI support in the various drivers, most of them hang, for example the Panasonic will hang as it scans for devices. (ie use the /E option) DOSUSB will find the device and set up a drive. If I use a FAT16 device I can get things working reasonably well but a directory listing will wind up crashing the system and creating all sorts of bad behavior. (Yes, I understand that directory listing may take a long time but my expectation is that it would not crash the OS) If I use a FAT32 device all hell breaks loose when trying to access the USB disk, FCB error messages or other scrolling messages pop up and the computer must be reset. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de To: freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2012 7:48 am Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB? Hi! Didn't bother trying Bret's drivers because I have EHCI / OHCI. Georg's DOSUSB is the only one that works for me to some degree. EHCI = USB 2.0, OHCI = similar to UHCI, both USB 1.x... (you have no XHCI = USB 3.0 I guess) In what ways do the DOSUSB drivers work, in which ways do they not? Bret's drivers are only for UHCI (www.bretjohnson.us says that OHCI, EHCI, WHCI, XHCI may be added later?) so I guess this is why you did not try those. someone then I'm going to give up. If no, then I'll try MS-DOS 7.0/7.1 with my MB and see if that helps at all. I doubt that it makes a difference on which DOS you are running the same drivers. By the way, are there any USB storage drivers available in your BIOS itself? Eric -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB?
Op 6-6-2012 17:08, cordat...@aol.com schreef: On most OHCI drivers (including DOSUSB), the driver will load but then the keyboard starts acting erratically. (I'm using PS2 keyboard not USB) Effectively the computer is not usable at this point - I suppose I could write a batch file to test whether it is strictly a keyboard problem or if there are other problems. I've succesfully used Georg's DOSUSB v2.0 with USB flash drive containing a single active primary FAT32 partition. Problem is my USB keyboard then typically gets disabled as DOSUSB replaces BIOS drivers by its own stack, but a keyboard driver isn't present currently within DOSUSB. My final solution was to get a PCI-express USB 3.0 controller card. As add-in cards aren't bootable (no bootrom, no driver in BIOS) nor seen in DOS, I'm booting from some slow USB flash drive, which loads DOSUSB 3.0 and thus gains access to the fast flash drive connected to the add-in card. As all other devices are on USB1/USB2 ports, they don't get disabled by the USB3-only DOSUSB 3.0 driver. All in all, this works pretty well for me. The downside is that the slow USB stick that I boot from, gets drive C: assigned, which I dislike. Messing around with Syslinux, Memdisk and floppy image files works around this nicely, so I can keep C: available for either a ramdisk drive, or for the USB3.0 flash drive. Alternative options are loading this driver from a floppy drive, or cdrom or something, but that's slower. If this device you're loading from is USB as well, you're in trouble as soon as loading DOSUSB v2.0 (it resets the controller, thus also the connected drives, and you end up with a hung system). DOSUSB will find the device and set up a drive. If I use a FAT16 device I can get things working reasonably well but a directory listing will wind up crashing the system and creating all sorts of bad behavior. (Yes, I understand that directory listing may take a long time but my expectation is that it would not crash the OS) I've experienced that DOSUSB sometimes needs a bit longer initialisation time. You might also want to check the errorcode generated by it. My way of solving it was to load and unload DOSUSB a few times, once no more errorcode, I load USBDISK.SYS so the USB flash disk gets mapped. If I use a FAT32 device all hell breaks loose when trying to access the USB disk, FCB error messages or other scrolling messages pop up and the computer must be reset. Any other older kernels or MSDOS suffering the same behaviour? I've got most luck with JEMMEX combined with DOSUSB. Anyway, I'm hoping my next machine can boot natively from USB3.0 ports/devices in UEFI (and BIOS!) at above-USB2.0 speeds. Heck, Apple even made FireWire (and Thunderbolt?) bootable on years old EFI. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB?
And http://panasonic.jp/com/support/drive/other/f2h_usb.html doesnt work? -- spv...@myopera.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Any success stories with Kernel 2041, FAT32 and DOSUSB?
I've been trying to get USB working under FreeDOS ... My motherboard has EHCI controller, the only driver which comes close to working is Georg Potthast's DOSUSB. Currently the system crashes (messages about corrupt MCB) when I try to access the USB disk. Just curious if anyone has had success with FAT32 on kernel 2041 and especially with Georg's drivers. Thanks! Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
