Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
Okay, Thanks everyone! I filled in the my_ip section with my ip (according to dhcp.exe), but Arachne still points me to the Roadrunner search, saying Why Am I Here? - You entered a web address that was used to present site suggestions I tried a lot of things, one of which was filing in mtcp (which I did successfully and when I ping a web address or other computers connected to our router, it comes back positive), but nothing really worked. I know that our internet works on our other comps because I'm browsing right now on our mac. Also, Arachne is clearly connected because it brings up the home page, which it couldn't do before I set it up right. I also have to add (since I didn't really in the first place): I'm pretty new to DOS, so I don't know all the DOS-talk terms and whatnot. I do know how to effectively do a lot of things, but not as much as most of you experienced users and such. --- A FreeDOS User (The one that started this post, just for the sake of reference) On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = www.rr.com I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. Anyway, it didn't really work, so I'm at a loss of what to do next. Arachne is at least able to connect, so I did something right. Also, what does the mtcp.cfg file do? I know it has to do with ping and other such things, but how do I use it? And how did it look originally (I accidently did something and it made the file blank)? Any help on any of these questions would be wonderful. Thanks! --- A FreeDOS User P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
FreeDOS user, Make sure that the NAMESERVER parameter is filled in your WATTCP file. This parameter should come back from the MTCP DHCP program and is probably going to be the same as your router IP address. For fun you can try the IP address 8.8.8.8 as the NAMESERVER if you are unsure on what to do here. Alternatively just try accessing 8.8.8.8 in Arachne itself, just that specific IP and see what happens. -Original Message- From: Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com To: FreeDOS User freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, Apr 9, 2012 3:06 pm Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles Okay, Thanks everyone! I filled in the my_ip section with my ip (according to dhcp.exe), but Arachne still points me to the Roadrunner search, saying Why Am I Here? - You entered a web address that was used to present site suggestions I tried a lot of things, one of which was filing in mtcp (which I did successfully and when I ping a web address or other computers connected to our router, it comes back positive), but nothing really worked. I know that our internet works on our other comps because I'm browsing right now on our mac. Also, Arachne is clearly connected because it brings up the home page, which it couldn't do before I set it up right. I also have to add (since I didn't really in the first place): I'm pretty new to DOS, so I don't know all the DOS-talk terms and whatnot. I do know how to effectively do a lot of things, but not as much as most of you experienced users and such. --- A FreeDOS User (The one that started this post, just for the sake of reference) On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = www.rr.com I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. Anyway, it didn't really work, so I'm at a loss of what to do next. Arachne is at least able to connect, so I did something right. Also, what does the mtcp.cfg file do? I know it has to do with ping and other such things, but how do I use it? And how did it look originally (I accidently did something and it made the file blank)? Any help on any of these questions would be wonderful. Thanks! --- A FreeDOS User P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
At 01:05 PM 4/9/2012, Kenny Emond wrote: Okay, Thanks everyone! I filled in the my_ip section with my ip (according to dhcp.exe), but Arachne still points me to the Roadrunner search, saying Why Am I Here? - You entered a web address that was used to present site suggestions I tried a lot of things, one of which was filing in mtcp (which I did successfully and when I ping a web address or other computers connected to our router, it comes back positive), but nothing really worked. I know that our internet works on our other comps because I'm browsing right now on our mac. Also, Arachne is clearly connected because it brings up the home page, which it couldn't do before I set it up right. I also have to add (since I didn't really in the first place): I'm pretty new to DOS, so I don't know all the DOS-talk terms and whatnot. I do know how to effectively do a lot of things, but not as much as most of you experienced users and such. As I mentioned before, you end up on this Roadrunner page when you do not have a proper DNS server set on you host. That is in general not something DOS specific, that is something you need to have on every OS unless you want to access remote servers by their IP address only. If Arachne brings up the (which) homepage, it could be that there is an Arachne specific setting for the primary DNS... Ralf -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
FWIW, I had problems with my computers also. The original DSL modem I had (provided by the phone company) worked fine, but it eventually went belly up. I bought a new one (made by ActionTec), but for some unknown reason DOS WATTCP doesn't like the DHCP server provided by the new modem. In Windows, everything works fine. I was never able to figure out why WATTCP doesn't like the DHCP server, but managed to work around the issue by using static IP's. BTW, static IP's are also very useful sometimes even in Windows for things like network printers, because print driver software often expects the IP address of a printer to never change. If you add or remove devices from the network every once in awhile, or don't turn your network-attached printers on for days or weeks at a time, the IP addresses can change, and Windows may not be able to find the printer any more. Very annoying. I don't know if this will fix your particular problem or not, but here's what I did. First of all, I got into the DSL modem DHCP configuration to set up a range of static IP addresses I could use. In the DHCP configuration, I set up the range of DHCP assigned addresses to 192.168.1.240 - .254. This lets me use 192.168.0.1 - .239 for static IP's for DOS, printers, and other situations where a static IP is preferable to DHCP. Obviously, I need to keep track of what static IP is assigned to what so I don't end up having conflicts. Then, in WATTCP.CFG (for my main computer) I have the following: my_ip=192.168.0.2 host_name=Bret_Desktop netmask=255.255.255.0 nameserver=8.8.8.8 nameserver=8.8.4.4 gateway=192.168.0.1 domain.suffix=domain.bretnet.com I have similar things in my WATTCP.CFG for the other computers also, with the my_ip and host_name changed as appropriate. This fixed the problems with both Arachne and Dillo. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Arachne-Troubles-tp33653764p33657954.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = www.rr.com I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. Anyway, it didn't really work, so I'm at a loss of what to do next. Arachne is at least able to connect, so I did something right. Also, what does the mtcp.cfg file do? I know it has to do with ping and other such things, but how do I use it? And how did it look originally (I accidently did something and it made the file blank)? Any help on any of these questions would be wonderful. Thanks! --- A FreeDOS User P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
At 06:46 PM 4/8/2012, Kenny Emond wrote: Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. That means that you do not have a proper DNS server set in your setup... I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp That IP has to be in the same subnet as your gateway, which means in must be also a 192.168.0.x address... netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = http://www.rr.com/www.rr.com I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. That would be correct. P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! Even your local IP that you masked out in this case would be a private one, of no use to anyone as you are behind a router that has your public IP address... Ralf -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
FreeDOS User ... If WATTCP is working correctly you don't need the other lines in your config file beyond my_ip=dhcp as they are filled in if DHCP works. As has been discussed here before some versions of WATTCP support DHCP and some don't. My guess is that yours does support DHCP since if you didn't have an IP you could not get to the roadrunner search. You mention MTCP.CFG -this is the config file for MTCP, not WATTCP. The two packages are very similar but they have different configuration files. WATTCP and MTCP differ in that WATTCP will provide DHCP services within each application (like Arachne) while MTCP has a stand-alone DHCP program which then updates a config file and all other MTCP apps (like Ping or FTP) assume that the IP is static. One way to remove some uncertainty from your WATTCP configuration is to adopt the MTCP DHCP method. In order to do this you would have a very basic MTCP config file (I think the minimum is the interrupt vector - would be nice if this were not needed :-) and then run the MTCP DHCP program. Everything from your DHCP server (ie your router) will get dumped into the MTCP config file as well as show on your screen. You can then update your WATTCP config file to match. This can be automated in one of a couple of ways I can share with you if you are interested. -Original Message- From: Kenny Emond cheeseylem...@gmail.com To: FreeDOS User freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 8:47 pm Subject: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = www.rr.com I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. Anyway, it didn't really work, so I'm at a loss of what to do next. Arachne is at least able to connect, so I did something right. Also, what does the mtcp.cfg file do? I know it has to do with ping and other such things, but how do I use it? And how did it look originally (I accidently did something and it made the file blank)? Any help on any of these questions would be wonderful. Thanks! --- A FreeDOS User P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
On 4/8/2012 8:46 PM, Kenny Emond wrote: Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the wattcp.cfg file, like so: my_ip = dhcp netmask = 255.255.255.0 gateway = 192.168.0.1 domain_list = www.rr.com http://www.rr.com/ I had to use our mac to find out our router ip (it was under dhcp as router). I put the ip under the gateway section, which I don't know was correct. Anyway, it didn't really work, so I'm at a loss of what to do next. Arachne is at least able to connect, so I did something right. Also, what does the mtcp.cfg file do? I know it has to do with ping and other such things, but how do I use it? And how did it look originally (I accidently did something and it made the file blank)? Any help on any of these questions would be wonderful. Thanks! --- A FreeDOS User P.S.- Please don't use any info I gave you to hack me or something like that. I'm doing this on the honour system. Thanks! Again! I don't think anybody is going to try to hack your DOS box. But if they did, would it be a Denial of Service attack (DoS) on a DOS box? (Sorry, bad networking joke.) I can't comment on Arachne - web browsing in DOS is way above my head. However, keep in mind that the mTCP configuration file (the name varies but it is pointed at by the MTCPCFG environment variable) is unrelated to the WATTCP.CFG file used by Arachne. mTCP and WATTCP are two different TCP/IP stacks and sets of applications. The mTCP package includes a DHCP client, PING, SNTP, Telnet client, FTP client, etc. Arachne is one of the programs using WATTCP. For details on setting up mTCP and getting the configuration file back to a good state see setup.txt somewhere in one of the documentation directories. Here is a link to the online version: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/setup.txt At a minimum you need to tell mTCP what software interrupt the packet driver is using. This is all explained in the setup instructions. Mike -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles
On 4/8/2012 10:00 PM, cordat...@aol.com wrote: FreeDOS User ... If WATTCP is working correctly you don't need the other lines in your config file beyond my_ip=dhcp as they are filled in if DHCP works. As has been discussed here before some versions of WATTCP support DHCP and some don't. My guess is that yours does support DHCP since if you didn't have an IP you could not get to the roadrunner search. You mention MTCP.CFG -this is the config file for MTCP, not WATTCP. The two packages are very similar but they have different configuration files. WATTCP and MTCP differ in that WATTCP will provide DHCP services within each application (like Arachne) while MTCP has a stand-alone DHCP program which then updates a config file and all other MTCP apps (like Ping or FTP) assume that the IP is static. One way to remove some uncertainty from your WATTCP configuration is to adopt the MTCP DHCP method. In order to do this you would have a very basic MTCP config file (I think the minimum is the interrupt vector - would be nice if this were not needed :-) and then run the MTCP DHCP program. Everything from your DHCP server (ie your router) will get dumped into the MTCP config file as well as show on your screen. You can then update your WATTCP config file to match. This can be automated in one of a couple of ways I can share with you if you are interested. Correct - each WATTCP based application gets a DHCP address each time it starts. This approach handles short leases better, but it leads to bigger executables. mTCP basically cheats and keeps the executables smaller by making DHCP a separate step in a separate program. Cordata - you could give him the utility you wrote that parses the mTCP config file and fixes up the WATTCP file. (I'd like to see that bundled with mTCP one day.) Another option is a utility by Dave Dunfield at http://www.dunfield.com/doswid/index.htm called DHCP. It is a DHCP client that can configure both mTCP and WATTCP, and it is smaller than my own DHCP client for mTCP. Mike -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
