Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS install CD
Hi! Why not using Pakke as package Manager? http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~phekda/richdawe/pakke/ DJGPP using it and is happy with it.It needs 386+, yes, but which 8086 has a cd-rom? Bye, Flo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] New FreeDOS install CD
Hi all, I think that the new distro idea about a collection of batch files is really good. It looks similar to portage/gentoo and freebsd/ports way of installing packages and maybe a it can be a revival for the fdpm project. I think it will be really good for: - Make the distribution easy to update. - Maybe less releases/ISOs per year. - Get comercial software inside the distro, not the software but an install script/method. - Comercial software site's bandwith can be used . - To have a binary install for users. - Or from source install for developers. - Bandwith from everybody could be used. (just live the package in a place the install program can fetch) - Bandwith usage would be distributed. - Also bandwith usage would be distributed in time since everybody will not update their packages at the same time. - Make install scripts easier for virtual machines (vmware, bochs, qemu...) and emulators (dosemu) since they all have the same network cards, at the same address, perhaps. - Easy to test and get food for bugzilla faster, while developers still got their hands dirty. - Get software tested faster and in different machines by far more people. - Get more people installing (hey new stuff) and updating their FreeDOS distro. and I would be happy as a monkey in a banana farm to see it done. I can help also. Blair, I have made some ansi logos, if you are interested I can send you with no questions asked. :) I can't think of bad things right now, maybe it will occur to me somewhere in time. Carlos AB --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS install CD
Blair, I have made some ansi logos, if you are interested I can send you with no questions asked. :) I don't know what you mean by ansi logos, but sure. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS install CD
I think that the new distro idea about a collection of batch files is really good. Actually, I am writing a more advanced method of managing packages right now to overcome the limitations of batch. - Make the distribution easy to update. I'm hoping to have an update.bat in the root directory of the next ISO so that users can update anything that has changed. - Get comercial software inside the distro, not the software but an install script/method. I have already a package that can download vide-cdd.sys and set it up. This isn't in any of the released ISOs yet, though. - Or from source install for developers. It would be neat to allow a developer to compile every package from scratch automatically if they only installed source packages. This is similar to Gentoo. - Bandwith from everybody could be used. (just live the package in a place the install program can fetch) I had this in mind, but that would require someone to host all of the packages for download on the internet. - Make install scripts easier for virtual machines (vmware, bochs, qemu...) and emulators (dosemu) since they all have the same network cards, at the same address, perhaps. I will add an option to the new crynwr.bat I am preparing that will set up a QEMU-compatible packet driver. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS install CD
Hi Blair, I think that the new distro idea about a collection of batch files is really good. Actually, I am writing a more advanced method of managing packages right now to overcome the limitations of batch. That is great news! - Make the distribution easy to update. I'm hoping to have an update.bat in the root directory of the next ISO so that users can update anything that has changed. Again. - Get comercial software inside the distro, not the software but an install script/method. I have already a package that can download vide-cdd.sys and set it up. This isn't in any of the released ISOs yet, though. and again. - Or from source install for developers. It would be neat to allow a developer to compile every package from scratch automatically if they only installed source packages. This is similar to Gentoo. Yep. - Bandwith from everybody could be used. (just live the package in a place the install program can fetch) I had this in mind, but that would require someone to host all of the packages for download on the internet. Not really, for instance you are already using bandwih from f-prot site. Am I right? - Make install scripts easier for virtual machines (vmware, bochs, qemu...) and emulators (dosemu) since they all have the same network cards, at the same address, perhaps. I will add an option to the new crynwr.bat I am preparing that will set up a QEMU-compatible packet driver. Oh boy! I'm dying to put my hands on it . :) Thanks Blair, Carlos --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS install CD
Not really, for instance you are already using bandwih from f-prot site. Am I right? Yes, but one would stil have to install the package that sets up f-prot. Scripts to do this would not be installed by default. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS Install CD
Hi! After installing FreeDOS from the CD-ROM, you can do several useful things not available from the original FreeDOS CD-ROM. You can update the kernel to the latest unstable kernel via wget by typing 'krnlupdt' at the command prompt if wget is installed. Wow! Cool! If you don't want a package installed anymore, you can remove it by typing 'fdpkg binary remove pkgname' for a binary package and 'fdpkg source remove pkgname' for a source package (example: 'fdpkg binary remove UDMA2'). If you want to install further software from the CD-ROM, set the 'cdrep' environment variable to your CD-ROM drive (set 'CDREP=D:'), then type 'fdcdrom pkgname' and it will find the package on the cdrom and install it (example: 'fdcdrom OWATCOM' to install Open Watcom). Is this the FreeDOS package software? If yes, where can i find it? It doesn't seem to be in the list of software. Or is it Pakke? (http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~phekda/richdawe/pakke/) I hope i can test it this week, when i will have a better access of internet (more then 8k). Bye, Flo PS: In the software list i found: LFNDOS I don't think, that it is useable anymore. I would only have DOSLFN included. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS Install CD
This is a collection of batch files that call other batch files packaged with each package. The batch files can be found on the cdrom in the FDOS\BIN directory. By the way, I am currently working on a program which will simplify this, but it doesn't do anything useful at the moment. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS Install CD
PS: In the software list i found: LFNDOS I don't think, that it is useable anymore. I would only have DOSLFN included. LFNDOS isn't included. Not on your CD - but on freedos.org. Bye, Flo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS Install CD
Blair Campbell schreef: Hi! I am happy to announce to availability of an updated FreeDOS Install CD, containing all of the disksets and also some enhancements. After testing, please e-mail me with suggestions for additional software to be included/excluded and other things. Jim Hall is in the process of downloading and uploading the ISOs to ibiblio, and I will notifyt the mailing lists when this is finished. I'll have a look for sure, your work sounds very interesting. Internet connectivity is very interesting, as it allows for installing freedos very easily. All you then need is a bootdisk, an image mount program (shsucdhd/shsucdrd from Jason Hood) and the FreeDOS distribution flavour you desire, as an ISO file :) another very interesting option is to download the free cdrom driver from Acer/Benq and get it installed on user's system. Without permission from that company (which I tried getting) I'm not delivering it with the freedos distro that I work on. After installing FreeDOS from the CD-ROM, you can do several useful things not available from the original FreeDOS CD-ROM. You can update the kernel to the latest unstable kernel via wget by typing 'krnlupdt' at the command prompt if wget is installed. If I'll have a look at how you configured packet drivers etc, very curious :) nice idea to allow ppl to update to daily kernel. My compliments for your distribution, I'll have a look at it :) Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] New FreeDOS Install CD
Hi! I am happy to announce to availability of an updated FreeDOS Install CD, containing all of the disksets and also some enhancements. After testing, please e-mail me with suggestions for additional software to be included/excluded and other things. Jim Hall is in the process of downloading and uploading the ISOs to ibiblio, and I will notifyt the mailing lists when this is finished. Here is the Readme: The files available are: http://freedos.sharedaemon.org/torrents/FreeDos-Boot-CD+Sources-2005-07-18.iso.torrent http://freedos.sharedaemon.org/torrents/FreeDos-Boot-CD-2005-07-18.iso.torrent and the md5sums are: 356b0276407272550f6a76312449c949 *FreeDos-Boot-CD+Sources-2005-07-18.iso 366a430b0af2ce18d3ec9a15d078a97a *FreeDos-Boot-CD-2005-07-18.iso These files are intended for testing only at this point as they are largely untested and likely have many problems to be worked out. For those just looking to to a basic install with updated packages this should be fine, but there are no guarantees. FreeDos-Boot-CD-2005-07-18.iso This is the file that most people will be wanting. This is a FreeDOS Install/LiveCD with the Base, Edit, Lang, Util, and Net disksets, in addition to an 'Extra' diskset with many other useful programs. This is almost half the size of FDBOOTCD.ISO because it lacks ANY source packages. If you only want some source packages, it is probably best to download them seperately. FreeDos-Boot-CD+Sources-2005-07-18.iso This is the file that mostly developers will be wanting. This is a FreeDOS Install/LiveCD with all disksets in addition to the 'Extra' diskset and 'SRC_EX' diskset which consists of many useful programs and their sources. This is almost double the size of FreeDos-Boot-CD-2005-07-18.iso because it contains ALL of the source packages. Again, if you only want some source packages, it is probably better to download them seperately. This ISO is available for GPL compliance. md5sums This file contains the md5 hashes for the above two files so that you can check to make sure that the files were downloaded correctly. Both CDs contain updated packages including the latest HTML Help binary compiled with kitten, Devload 3.15, OSPlus Editor 2.1.1, MPXPlay 1.52, HXRT 1.26, 7za 4.23, Format 0.91u, EMM386 2.04, HIMEM 3.11, OpenGEM 4.0, FDXMS 0.94, and FDXMS286 0.03. The LiveCD portion of the CD-ROM contains useful software like the entire Base diskset, MPXPlay, 7za, Open Watcom, and games like Bolitaire and Jump'n'Bump. After installing FreeDOS from the CD-ROM, you can do several useful things not available from the original FreeDOS CD-ROM. You can update the kernel to the latest unstable kernel via wget by typing 'krnlupdt' at the command prompt if wget is installed. If you don't want a package installed anymore, you can remove it by typing 'fdpkg binary remove pkgname' for a binary package and 'fdpkg source remove pkgname' for a source package (example: 'fdpkg binary remove UDMA2'). If you want to install further software from the CD-ROM, set the 'cdrep' environment variable to your CD-ROM drive (set 'CDREP=D:'), then type 'fdcdrom pkgname' and it will find the package on the cdrom and install it (example: 'fdcdrom OWATCOM' to install Open Watcom). Enjoy Testing! --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS Install CD
Jim Hall has just finished uploading the small ISO to ibiblio, so here is the url: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/blair/FreeDos-Boot-CD-2005-07-18.iso This is probably the preferred place to download the file right now. The readme file is at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/blair/README.txt I will notify everyone when the large ISO is available on ibiblio. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New FreeDOS Install CD
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/blair/FreeDos-Boot-CD-2005-07-18.iso This is probably the preferred place to download the file right now. I also sync'd it up to the oldos mirror at http://fdmirror.oldos.org I should have the big iso within a day or so of the uploading to ibiblio. -- Jason Faulkner OldOs.org Owner/Admin / http://oldos.org / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Certified INGOTS Gold Assessor Trainer / http://www.theingots.org OpenOffice.org Marketing Volunteer / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
