Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Enbor . wrote: > Well, I think I have found the problem, but not the solution. > > If I type "ctmouse", the system says that a COM mouse is installed, > but my mouse is PS/2. > > The problem is that when I type "ctmouse /p", the system says that > it's unable to find a PS/2 mouse. > > How can I say to FreeDOS that my mouse is not COM? Just try to use "cross bridge" (I don't know how it say in english correctly) PS2->COM if you have one, of course. -- D.A. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
Well, I think I have found the problem, but not the solution. If I type "ctmouse", the system says that a COM mouse is installed, but my mouse is PS/2. The problem is that when I type "ctmouse /p", the system says that it's unable to find a PS/2 mouse. How can I say to FreeDOS that my mouse is not COM? thaks 2007/11/30, Enbor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've finally got it! Thanks a lot for the advise, with that Grub menu > entry the system boots normally. > > But now I 've another issue, the mouse doesn't work. What do I have to > do to enable the mouse? My mouse is PS/2. > > thanks > > 2007/11/30, Alain M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Ok, you moved from one impossible thing to another. DOS can only boot > > from the first disk... > > > > BUT maybe a trick that I found some time ago can help: Grub can remap > > disks, I used it to move Windows XP, so it may work for DOS: > > > > # Windows XP SP2 > > title Windows XP > > rootnoverify (hd1,0) > > map (hd0) (hd1) > > map (hd1) (hd0) > > chainloader +1 > > > > The maps commands switch disks (I really don't know how) in a way that > > the OS is fooled just right. Try it! > > > > I hope this help :) > > Alain > > > > Enbor . escreveu: > > > Well, seems that booting FreeDOS from a extended partition is > > > impossible or at least very har, so I have make a primary partition of > > > 1GB on my secondary disk. It's called "hdb2" by Linux. > > > > > > Know the problem is that when I try to install FreeDOS, xfdisk says > > > that my new partition is hidden. I don't know what this means. Also it > > > has not drive letter. > > > > > > Anyway, I have tried to install the OS, because the FreeDOS > > > installation disk finds 3 HD, and as I have 3 FAT partitions, I have > > > thought that the third one must be the one in which I want to install > > > FreeDOS (despite of the letters soon by xfdisk said that my partition > > > isn't one of those 3). > > > > > > Voi·là, E: partition was the new created one, and FreeDOS has been > > > installed successfully. But when I've tried to boot on it, after the > > > screen to select the FreeDOS mode, several errors appears, saying that > > > the system can't find command.com and autoexec.bat. Both files are in > > > the root of the partition. > > > > > > I don't understand this, does anybody know how to fix this? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > - > > > SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper > > > from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going > > > mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. > > > http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 > > > ___ > > > Freedos-user mailing list > > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > > > > > - > > SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper > > from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going > > mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. > > http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
I've finally got it! Thanks a lot for the advise, with that Grub menu entry the system boots normally. But now I 've another issue, the mouse doesn't work. What do I have to do to enable the mouse? My mouse is PS/2. thanks 2007/11/30, Alain M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ok, you moved from one impossible thing to another. DOS can only boot > from the first disk... > > BUT maybe a trick that I found some time ago can help: Grub can remap > disks, I used it to move Windows XP, so it may work for DOS: > > # Windows XP SP2 > title Windows XP > rootnoverify (hd1,0) > map (hd0) (hd1) > map (hd1) (hd0) > chainloader +1 > > The maps commands switch disks (I really don't know how) in a way that > the OS is fooled just right. Try it! > > I hope this help :) > Alain > > Enbor . escreveu: > > Well, seems that booting FreeDOS from a extended partition is > > impossible or at least very har, so I have make a primary partition of > > 1GB on my secondary disk. It's called "hdb2" by Linux. > > > > Know the problem is that when I try to install FreeDOS, xfdisk says > > that my new partition is hidden. I don't know what this means. Also it > > has not drive letter. > > > > Anyway, I have tried to install the OS, because the FreeDOS > > installation disk finds 3 HD, and as I have 3 FAT partitions, I have > > thought that the third one must be the one in which I want to install > > FreeDOS (despite of the letters soon by xfdisk said that my partition > > isn't one of those 3). > > > > Voi·là, E: partition was the new created one, and FreeDOS has been > > installed successfully. But when I've tried to boot on it, after the > > screen to select the FreeDOS mode, several errors appears, saying that > > the system can't find command.com and autoexec.bat. Both files are in > > the root of the partition. > > > > I don't understand this, does anybody know how to fix this? > > > > Thanks > > > > - > > SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper > > from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going > > mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. > > http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > - > SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper > from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going > mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. > http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
Ok, you moved from one impossible thing to another. DOS can only boot from the first disk... BUT maybe a trick that I found some time ago can help: Grub can remap disks, I used it to move Windows XP, so it may work for DOS: # Windows XP SP2 title Windows XP rootnoverify (hd1,0) map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) chainloader +1 The maps commands switch disks (I really don't know how) in a way that the OS is fooled just right. Try it! I hope this help :) Alain Enbor . escreveu: > Well, seems that booting FreeDOS from a extended partition is > impossible or at least very har, so I have make a primary partition of > 1GB on my secondary disk. It's called "hdb2" by Linux. > > Know the problem is that when I try to install FreeDOS, xfdisk says > that my new partition is hidden. I don't know what this means. Also it > has not drive letter. > > Anyway, I have tried to install the OS, because the FreeDOS > installation disk finds 3 HD, and as I have 3 FAT partitions, I have > thought that the third one must be the one in which I want to install > FreeDOS (despite of the letters soon by xfdisk said that my partition > isn't one of those 3). > > Voi·là, E: partition was the new created one, and FreeDOS has been > installed successfully. But when I've tried to boot on it, after the > screen to select the FreeDOS mode, several errors appears, saying that > the system can't find command.com and autoexec.bat. Both files are in > the root of the partition. > > I don't understand this, does anybody know how to fix this? > > Thanks > > - > SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper > from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going > mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. > http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
Hi. Lo siento pero no puedo ayudarte ya que yo tuve el mismo problema y me fue imposible solucionarlo. EL CHANGO v4. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
Well, seems that booting FreeDOS from a extended partition is impossible or at least very har, so I have make a primary partition of 1GB on my secondary disk. It's called "hdb2" by Linux. Know the problem is that when I try to install FreeDOS, xfdisk says that my new partition is hidden. I don't know what this means. Also it has not drive letter. Anyway, I have tried to install the OS, because the FreeDOS installation disk finds 3 HD, and as I have 3 FAT partitions, I have thought that the third one must be the one in which I want to install FreeDOS (despite of the letters soon by xfdisk said that my partition isn't one of those 3). Voi·là, E: partition was the new created one, and FreeDOS has been installed successfully. But when I've tried to boot on it, after the screen to select the FreeDOS mode, several errors appears, saying that the system can't find command.com and autoexec.bat. Both files are in the root of the partition. I don't understand this, does anybody know how to fix this? Thanks - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
Hi Alain, Enbor, > >> If i understand correctly, "root (hd0,5)" is because it is in an > >> extended partition. No DOS can boot from extended partitions. > I have never seen it done, nither DOS or Windows up to 98 ;-) I think it CAN be done but you would have to do a manual fixup of the partition offset / hidden sectors value in the boot sector. I have a Linux Perl script for installing custom boot sectors, www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/sys-freedos-linux.zip , and with Grub, you can also even write the boot sector to a file instead of to the partition, might be safer... For that option, you would FIRST copy the old boot sector to a file, for example with OSCHECK (in DOS), and THEN use my tool to edit the sector. You can also use my tool to edit the boot sector inside the partition, without using separate files. Target "files" can be partition devices, diskimages, or boot sector files :-). Maybe you two could play around and look for a working config. > > Command: makeactive Not required for DOS partitions :-) You can use a boot menu like Grub and Lilo to boot any partition, but this does not help you to solve the "our SYS cannot make a boot sector which would work on a non primary partition" problem... Eric - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
Enbor . escreveu: >> If i understand correctly, "root (hd0,5)" is because it is in an >> extended partition. No DOS can boot from extended partitions. > Yes, is a logical/extended partition, but I've read that it's possible > to boot from there using Grub, maybe that's no true? I have never seen it done, nither DOS or Windows up to 98 ;-) >> I recomend that you use GPARTED and move it to a primary partition. > It's no so easy, I have 3 primary partitions and one logical with two > extended, so it would by hard to fix it... Can't your other partitions be moved to extended partitions? Apart from the very annoying Linux problem of reconfiguring all your partitions? > I've just found this, from Grub's manual: > Command: makeactive > Set the active partition on the root disk to GRUB's root device. This > command is limited to primary PC partitions on a hard disk. > So it has no sense to use that option. The "active" atribute is only defined for primary partitions... Alain - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
>did you make the partition a fat partition or is it a linux >partition? gparted will allow you to set the parition type? Itś a FAT32 partition. >If i understand correctly, "root (hd0,5)" is because it is in an >extended partition. No DOS can boot from extended partitions. Yes, is a logical/extended partition, but I've read that it's possible to boot from there using Grub, maybe that's no true? >I recomend that you use GPARTED and move it to a primary partition. It's no so easy, I have 3 primary partitions and one logical with two extended, so it would by hard to fix it... >since you have a linux set up have you tried running Freedos in a windo >under dosemu/xdosemu? i can run my freedos either with dosemu or as a >standalone boot but the standalone boot needs a dos partition. the dosemu >version is running from a subdirectory under home in my linux >partition although I can access data files in my dos parition. I also use dosemu, but I would like to try FreeDOS installed in my computer, just for play a bit with it... I've just found this, from Grub's manual: Command: makeactive Set the active partition on the root disk to GRUB's root device. This command is limited to primary PC partitions on a hard disk. So it has no sense to use that option. Know the question is, it's is really impossible to boot from a extended partition? Thanks - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
If i understand correctly, "root (hd0,5)" is because it is in an extended partition. No DOS can boot from extende partitions. I recomend that you use GPARTED and move it to a primary partition. Alain Enbor . escreveu: > Hi, I had installed FreeDOS and now I'm trying to to boot it using > Grub, but I can't get it. > > The partition in which I have installed FreeDOS is a logical partition > (maybe that is the problem), called hda6 on linux. So I have been > trying to boot by adding this entries to my Grub's menu.lst (a > different one each try): > > # FreeDOS > title FreeDOS > root (hd0,5) > > # FreeDOS > title FreeDOS+ > root (hd0,5) > chainloader +1 > > # FreeDOS > title FreeDOS+ > root (hd0,5) > chainloader /freedos.bin # After doing "sys e: freedos.bin both" from > the FreeDOS liveCD (E: is the partition where I've installed FreeDOS) > > When I select the FreeDOS entry from the Grub menu, appears a message > saying "Starting FreeDOS" or something similar, but the PC freezes > with a very loud Hard Disk sound and nothing happens. > > I have also tried those entries above with the "makeactive" option, > but in that case an error message appears. > > Does anybody know what do I have to add to my Grub menu to be able to > boot FreeDOS? > > Thanks > > - > SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper > from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going > mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. > http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Enbor . wrote: E >Hi, I had installed FreeDOS and now I'm trying to to boot it using E >Grub, but I can't get it. E > E >The partition in which I have installed FreeDOS is a logical partition E >(maybe that is the problem), called hda6 on linux. So I have been E >trying to boot by adding this entries to my Grub's menu.lst (a E >different one each try): did you make the partition a fat partition or is it a linux partition? gparted will allow you to set the parition type? since you have a linux set up have you tried running Freedos in a windo under dosemu/xdosemu? i can run my freedos either with dosemu or as a standalone boot but the standalone boot needs a dos partition. the dosemu version is running from a subdirectory under home in my linux partition although I can access data files in my dos parition. my boot partition for linux is in an extended/ logical partition but mt dos partition is a primary partition. here is my grub entry # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux # OS # on /dev/hda1 title FreeDOS root(hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 note that when Ubuntu was installing itself on my drive that it made the Freedos entry automatically having found freedos in the dos partition at hda1 E > E ># FreeDOS E >title FreeDOS E >root (hd0,5) E > E ># FreeDOS E >title FreeDOS+ E >root (hd0,5) E >chainloader +1 E > E ># FreeDOS E >title FreeDOS+ E >root (hd0,5) E >chainloader /freedos.bin # After doing "sys e: freedos.bin both" from E >the FreeDOS liveCD (E: is the partition where I've installed FreeDOS) E > E >When I select the FreeDOS entry from the Grub menu, appears a message E >saying "Starting FreeDOS" or something similar, but the PC freezes E >with a very loud Hard Disk sound and nothing happens. E > E >I have also tried those entries above with the "makeactive" option, E >but in that case an error message appears. E > what is the error message? E >Does anybody know what do I have to add to my Grub menu to be able to E >boot FreeDOS? E > E >Thanks E > E >- E >SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper E >from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going E >mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. E >http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 E >___ E >Freedos-user mailing list E >Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net E >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user E > ~~~ Bonnie Dalzell, MA mail:5100 Hydes Rd Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com. Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine - http://www.netpetmagazine.com HOME http://www.qis.net/~borzoi/ BUSINESS http://www.batw.com - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB
Hi, I had installed FreeDOS and now I'm trying to to boot it using Grub, but I can't get it. The partition in which I have installed FreeDOS is a logical partition (maybe that is the problem), called hda6 on linux. So I have been trying to boot by adding this entries to my Grub's menu.lst (a different one each try): # FreeDOS title FreeDOS root (hd0,5) # FreeDOS title FreeDOS+ root (hd0,5) chainloader +1 # FreeDOS title FreeDOS+ root (hd0,5) chainloader /freedos.bin # After doing "sys e: freedos.bin both" from the FreeDOS liveCD (E: is the partition where I've installed FreeDOS) When I select the FreeDOS entry from the Grub menu, appears a message saying "Starting FreeDOS" or something similar, but the PC freezes with a very loud Hard Disk sound and nothing happens. I have also tried those entries above with the "makeactive" option, but in that case an error message appears. Does anybody know what do I have to add to my Grub menu to be able to boot FreeDOS? Thanks - SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
