Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
Thanks for testing with lynx. [Referring to the Arachne button] I try not to advertise on the FreeDOS site, with a few exceptions (our "store" on cafepress, and the required SF and ibiblio buttons - because we use their free hosting.) But we do mention Arachne specifically on the FreeDOS web style guide: http://www.freedos.org/freedos/css/ As of July 2007, we recommended that a FreeDOS web site support the following browsers: * IE 6 & 7 (Windows) * Firefox 1 & 2 (multiple platforms) * Safari 2 (MacOSX) * Arachne (DOS) -jh > I do :) I'd also suggest a little animated .gif ( > http://stegozor.googlepages.com/ani-arac-mod.gif ) with a link pointing to > http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ . There are plenty of Firefox logos > everywhere, so why not advertising for Arachne a little bit? ;) > > The original gif is at http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/images/ani-arac.gif , I > modified it with Glenn's permission, using the GIMP. In fact, I just deleted > "Linux" and centered "DOS". > Glenn suggested that it might be possible to use the unmodified version as > there is a very good possibility that the Linux version could be coming back > to life. For more information, please see: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ArachneDevelopment/message/3490 . > > So, maybe you could use the modified version as long as there's only a DOS > version, and if, hopefully, the GNU/Linux version is released, you could > switch to the original one. > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
On 6/8/07, Jim Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web > testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design. The new design > doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look. > More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne > (some differences: Arachne doesn't support absolute positioning of the > linkList, and doesn't display the background images.) I tested the new site with Lynx and it's quite usable with text only browsers as well. > I hope you like it. I do :) I'd also suggest a little animated .gif ( http://stegozor.googlepages.com/ani-arac-mod.gif ) with a link pointing to http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ . There are plenty of Firefox logos everywhere, so why not advertising for Arachne a little bit? ;) The original gif is at http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/images/ani-arac.gif , I modified it with Glenn's permission, using the GIMP. In fact, I just deleted "Linux" and centered "DOS". Glenn suggested that it might be possible to use the unmodified version as there is a very good possibility that the Linux version could be coming back to life. For more information, please see: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ArachneDevelopment/message/3490 . So, maybe you could use the modified version as long as there's only a DOS version, and if, hopefully, the GNU/Linux version is released, you could switch to the original one. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
Oh, it's MSIE6 over WinXP over LCD screen (NO ClearType). Aitor 2007/6/17, Aitor Santamaría <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, I don't know if it's just me, but the current font (at 17th of > june) looks a bit strange and harder to read... > > Aitor > > 2007/6/8, Jim Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web > > testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design. The new design > > doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look. > > More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne > > (some differences: Arachne doesn't support absolute positioning of the > > linkList, and doesn't display the background images.) > > > > I hope you like it. > > > > -jh > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
Hello, I don't know if it's just me, but the current font (at 17th of june) looks a bit strange and harder to read... Aitor 2007/6/8, Jim Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web > testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design. The new design > doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look. > More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne > (some differences: Arachne doesn't support absolute positioning of the > linkList, and doesn't display the background images.) > > I hope you like it. > > -jh > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
The gradient looks nice - I've put it up on the web site. -jh On 6/8/07, Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > http://www.freedos.org/?webring=no > > This validates as correct XHTML. > > Cool. Talking about the webring, it is not THAT big, > is it? We could ask all pages in the ring to move to > another service (or even ours) with cleaner HTML ;-). > > Interesting that some people disliked the marble... > A gradient would be fine for me. Or a solid color. > The 1 pixel wide stripes are just very EGA :-p. > > So my vote is: Use solid colors or a gradient. > > Eric > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
Hi Jim, > http://www.freedos.org/?webring=no > This validates as correct XHTML. Cool. Talking about the webring, it is not THAT big, is it? We could ask all pages in the ring to move to another service (or even ours) with cleaner HTML ;-). Interesting that some people disliked the marble... A gradient would be fine for me. Or a solid color. The 1 pixel wide stripes are just very EGA :-p. So my vote is: Use solid colors or a gradient. Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
A lot of the errors you mention actually come from the webring nav stuff, which I have no control over. If you want to validate, you need to omit the webring stuff: http://www.freedos.org/?webring=no This validates as correct XHTML. I tried to pick a banner background that wasn't too image-y so that it would look much the same on Arachne. And I've been getting some peopel complaining that they didn't like the "marble stone" background pattern, so I felt it was time to change. At one point, I was looking to use a gradient of mostly the same color, sort of "web 2.0"-ish. I suppose I could do that instead for the banner background. Or, I could let it just be a solid color with no image background. What do others think? I have some time today before I leave on my trip, so if I can get a sense of what people think they'd prefer, I can see about making the change now. -jh On 6/8/07, Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > according to validator.w3.org, the new design is more like > HTML 4.01 than like XHTML. That is okay for me, but then > the header should not refer to XHTML... ;-). > > > Other errors: > > - there is no table "bordercolor" attribute > > - XHTML probably wants x="y" syntax for attributes, not x=y? > > - do not mix XHTML with HTML > > I think if you remove a few / from .../> and if you change > the headers, then your page will make a nice HTML 4.01 > transitional. No need to throw XHTML at DOS users now... > > > One problem with the design: > > - the top of the fish has no smooth transparency, so you get > almost white pixels between the border of the fish and the > striped background, at least in Mozilla based browsers. > > - plus the striped background looks much worse - imho - than > the previous "marble" or "plain, 1 color" backgrounds. You > also get extra strain for the browser when forcing it to > tile a tiny image to until you get the selected height and > the width of the canvas. Suggestion: Make the image high > enough to let 1 copy be enough, make it 32 pixels wide, > and do not make it striped ;-). > > > Thanks for making the web page Arachne friendly :-). > > Eric > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
Hi Jim, according to validator.w3.org, the new design is more like HTML 4.01 than like XHTML. That is okay for me, but then the header should not refer to XHTML... ;-). Other errors: - there is no table "bordercolor" attribute - XHTML probably wants x="y" syntax for attributes, not x=y? - do not mix XHTML with HTML I think if you remove a few / from .../> and if you change the headers, then your page will make a nice HTML 4.01 transitional. No need to throw XHTML at DOS users now... One problem with the design: - the top of the fish has no smooth transparency, so you get almost white pixels between the border of the fish and the striped background, at least in Mozilla based browsers. - plus the striped background looks much worse - imho - than the previous "marble" or "plain, 1 color" backgrounds. You also get extra strain for the browser when forcing it to tile a tiny image to until you get the selected height and the width of the canvas. Suggestion: Make the image high enough to let 1 copy be enough, make it 32 pixels wide, and do not make it striped ;-). Thanks for making the web page Arachne friendly :-). Eric > Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web > testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design. The new design > doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look. > More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne... - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design
Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design. The new design doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look. More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne (some differences: Arachne doesn't support absolute positioning of the linkList, and doesn't display the background images.) I hope you like it. -jh - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
