Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-26 Thread Sergio Belkin
I've upgraded to OpenWRT Kamikaze and problem seems goes away...

2008/11/6 Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> Alan, thanks, That's really a quite convincing answer :)
>
>  Yup.  I'm not just a random loudmouth on this list.
>
>> Of course I believe you , but please understand me, It's hard to me to
>> realize that either Linksys make non-standard products or OpenWRT
>> (white russian) developers had made such a mistake.
>
>There are many, many, RADIUS client implementations that are
> nearly as bad.
>
>> So, I'd be glad to know what AP's are standard compliant is there a list?
>
>  Nope.  I don't think very many are fully standards compliant.
>
>  I suggest updating the Wiki with any issues you find.
>
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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-06 Thread Alan DeKok
Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Alan, thanks, That's really a quite convincing answer :)

  Yup.  I'm not just a random loudmouth on this list.

> Of course I believe you , but please understand me, It's hard to me to
> realize that either Linksys make non-standard products or OpenWRT
> (white russian) developers had made such a mistake.

There are many, many, RADIUS client implementations that are
nearly as bad.

> So, I'd be glad to know what AP's are standard compliant is there a list?

  Nope.  I don't think very many are fully standards compliant.

  I suggest updating the Wiki with any issues you find.

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-06 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/11/5 aland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:43:07AM -0200, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> OK, AP's are broken, now with best regards, how I convince to my boss
>> that he should buy more than 30 new AP's, should I tell him... "read
>> the freeradius mailing list"?
>
>  Tell him that I co-wrote RFC 5080, which says that these AP's are
> broken:
>
>   When sending requests, RADIUS clients MUST NOT reuse Identifiers for
>   a source IP address and source UDP port until either a valid response
>   has been received, or the request has timed out.
>
>  These AP's violate the standards, and are broken.  I know, because my
> name is on the standards.
>
>  My name is also on the RADIUS "guidelines" document, which says how
> people should use RADIUS in the future.  And my name is going on 3-4
> other RADIUS standards.
>
>  So it's not "people on the FreeRADIUS list told me", but instead "the
> people who wrote the standards say that the AP is broken".
>
>  Alan DeKok.
>
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Alan, thanks, That's really a quite convincing answer :)

Of course I believe you , but please understand me, It's hard to me to
realize that either Linksys make non-standard products or OpenWRT
(white russian) developers had made such a mistake.

So, I'd be glad to know what AP's are standard compliant is there a list?

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-05 Thread aland
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:43:07AM -0200, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> OK, AP's are broken, now with best regards, how I convince to my boss
> that he should buy more than 30 new AP's, should I tell him... "read
> the freeradius mailing list"?

  Tell him that I co-wrote RFC 5080, which says that these AP's are 
broken:

   When sending requests, RADIUS clients MUST NOT reuse Identifiers for
   a source IP address and source UDP port until either a valid response
   has been received, or the request has timed out.

  These AP's violate the standards, and are broken.  I know, because my 
name is on the standards.

  My name is also on the RADIUS "guidelines" document, which says how 
people should use RADIUS in the future.  And my name is going on 3-4 
other RADIUS standards.

  So it's not "people on the FreeRADIUS list told me", but instead "the 
people who wrote the standards say that the AP is broken".

  Alan DeKok.

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-05 Thread tnt
>OK, AP's are broken, now with best regards, how I convince to my boss
>that he should buy more than 30 new AP's, should I tell him... "read
>the freeradius mailing list"?
>

Why "more"? Return these and ask for refund or exchange them.

Ivan Kalik
Kalik Informatika ISP

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Eric Ying
I used sniffer to checked radius packet between authenticator <--> radius
I also use sniffer to checked eapol between supplicant <--> authenticator
By using these 2 ways to troubleshooting authentication issues.
Hope this info help you.

Eric YIng

2008/11/4 Sergio Belkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 2008/11/4  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org/msg45635.html
> >
> > There is nothing to see in server debug for the packet that's discarded.
> >
> > Ivan Kalik
> > Kalik Informatika ISP
> >
> >
> > Dana 4/11/2008, "Marinko Tarlac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> piše:
> >
> >>Sorry for bothering but does anyone know what's wrong with these nases?
> >>Is there any way to go a little deeper than  #radiusd -x ?
> >>
> >>
> >>Jelle wrote:
> >>> Jep, in my case I use about 30 AP's from Linksys (WAP54g). They all
> >>> appear to be broken. To bad, but then again a reason to integrate the
> >>> N standard with other AP's... :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2008/11/4 Stephen Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another
> >>> brand/model of AP?
> >>>
> >>> What I am trying to tell you is are the about of 30 AP's that
> >>> I am using broken?
> >>>
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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/11/4  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org/msg45635.html
>
> There is nothing to see in server debug for the packet that's discarded.
>
> Ivan Kalik
> Kalik Informatika ISP
>
>
> Dana 4/11/2008, "Marinko Tarlac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> piše:
>
>>Sorry for bothering but does anyone know what's wrong with these nases?
>>Is there any way to go a little deeper than  #radiusd -x ?
>>
>>
>>Jelle wrote:
>>> Jep, in my case I use about 30 AP's from Linksys (WAP54g). They all
>>> appear to be broken. To bad, but then again a reason to integrate the
>>> N standard with other AP's... :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/11/4 Stephen Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another
>>> brand/model of AP?
>>>
>>> What I am trying to tell you is are the about of 30 AP's that
>>> I am using broken?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
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OK, AP's are broken, now with best regards, how I convince to my boss
that he should buy more than 30 new AP's, should I tell him... "read
the freeradius mailing list"?

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread tnt
http://www.mail-archive.com/freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org/msg45635.html

There is nothing to see in server debug for the packet that's discarded.

Ivan Kalik
Kalik Informatika ISP


Dana 4/11/2008, "Marinko Tarlac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> piše:

>Sorry for bothering but does anyone know what's wrong with these nases?
>Is there any way to go a little deeper than  #radiusd -x ?
>
>
>Jelle wrote:
>> Jep, in my case I use about 30 AP's from Linksys (WAP54g). They all
>> appear to be broken. To bad, but then again a reason to integrate the
>> N standard with other AP's... :)
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/11/4 Stephen Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>>
>>
>>
>> > But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another
>> brand/model of AP?
>>
>> What I am trying to tell you is are the about of 30 AP's that
>> I am using broken?
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Marinko Tarlac
Sorry for bothering but does anyone know what's wrong with these nases? 
Is there any way to go a little deeper than  #radiusd -x ?



Jelle wrote:
Jep, in my case I use about 30 AP's from Linksys (WAP54g). They all 
appear to be broken. To bad, but then again a reason to integrate the 
N standard with other AP's... :)




2008/11/4 Stephen Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >



> But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another
brand/model of AP?

What I am trying to tell you is are the about of 30 AP's that
I am using broken?


Yes.


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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Jelle
Jep, in my case I use about 30 AP's from Linksys (WAP54g). They all appear
to be broken. To bad, but then again a reason to integrate the N standard
with other AP's... :)



2008/11/4 Stephen Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>
>> > But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another brand/model
>> of AP?
>>
>> What I am trying to tell you is are the about of 30 AP's that I am using
>> broken?
>>
>
> Yes.
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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Stephen Bowman
>
> > But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another brand/model
> of AP?
>
> What I am trying to tell you is are the about of 30 AP's that I am using
> broken?
>

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/11/4 Sergio Belkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/11/4 Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Sergio Belkin wrote:
>>>
>>> I think is worthwhile to remark that that problem exists even using
>>> OpewnWRT on Linksys WRT54GL and not using original firmware...
>>
>>  Which may be based on similar code to the original firmware.
>>
>>> Is there a way to at least to minimize those errors? I've heard some
>>> people complains that sometimes try to reconnect and sometimes the
>>> only solution is reboot the AP.
>>
>>  Fix the NAS.  As you noted earlier, this doesn't happen with another NAS.
>>  The conclusion is that the NAS is broken.
>
> But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another brand/model of 
> AP?

What I am trying to tell you is are the about of 30 AP's that I am using broken?



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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/11/4 Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sergio Belkin wrote:
>>
>> I think is worthwhile to remark that that problem exists even using
>> OpewnWRT on Linksys WRT54GL and not using original firmware...
>
>  Which may be based on similar code to the original firmware.
>
>> Is there a way to at least to minimize those errors? I've heard some
>> people complains that sometimes try to reconnect and sometimes the
>> only solution is reboot the AP.
>
>  Fix the NAS.  As you noted earlier, this doesn't happen with another NAS.
>  The conclusion is that the NAS is broken.

But what do you mean for "fix the nas"? Should I use another brand/model of AP?



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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-04 Thread Alan DeKok

Sergio Belkin wrote:

I think is worthwhile to remark that that problem exists even using
OpewnWRT on Linksys WRT54GL and not using original firmware...


  Which may be based on similar code to the original firmware.


Is there a way to at least to minimize those errors? I've heard some
people complains that sometimes try to reconnect and sometimes the
only solution is reboot the AP.


  Fix the NAS.  As you noted earlier, this doesn't happen with another 
NAS.  The conclusion is that the NAS is broken.


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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-03 Thread Marinko Tarlac

If you're using Mikrotik than this message is 24/7/365 in your logs :)

Sergio Belkin wrote:

2008/10/5 Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Jelle Langbroek wrote:





I think is worthwhile to remark that that problem exists even using
OpewnWRT on Linksys WRT54GL and not using original firmware...

Is there a way to at least to minimize those errors? I've heard some
people complains that sometimes try to reconnect and sometimes the
only solution is reboot the AP.

Thanks in advance!
  


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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-11-03 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/10/5 Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Jelle Langbroek wrote:
>> I can tell you that with my tests, I figured out that it's happening
>> with all sorts of clients (MacOSX, XP, Vista).
>
>  The supplicant's aren't involved here.  It's the NAS that retransmits
> the RADIUS packets.
>
>> It appears only to be
>> happing with the WAP54G (and now the WRT54GL you say). When I replaced
>> the WAP54G with a WAP200, the errors disappeared with the same clients.
>
>  i.e. the WAP54G is broken.  It doesn't do RADIUS properly.
>
>> I tested this on many locations with many different clients and
>> everywhere the same results. It must be the WAP54G then.
>
>  Yes.
>
>> I'm still using those AP's and I keep getting the error in the logs.
>> It's indeed quite random. The error seems not harmful (although the
>> sourcecode of freeRadius says the AP is broken).
>
>  :)  It's a common complaint on this list.  Some issues are FreeRADIUS
> bugs.  Others are broken NASes.
>
>  I'm in the process of putting together a RADIUS validation test suite,
> so that manufacturers can see if their products are compliant *before*
> shipping them.
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I think is worthwhile to remark that that problem exists even using
OpewnWRT on Linksys WRT54GL and not using original firmware...

Is there a way to at least to minimize those errors? I've heard some
people complains that sometimes try to reconnect and sometimes the
only solution is reboot the AP.

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-10-04 Thread Alan DeKok
Jelle Langbroek wrote:
> I can tell you that with my tests, I figured out that it's happening
> with all sorts of clients (MacOSX, XP, Vista).

  The supplicant's aren't involved here.  It's the NAS that retransmits
the RADIUS packets.

> It appears only to be
> happing with the WAP54G (and now the WRT54GL you say). When I replaced
> the WAP54G with a WAP200, the errors disappeared with the same clients.

  i.e. the WAP54G is broken.  It doesn't do RADIUS properly.

> I tested this on many locations with many different clients and
> everywhere the same results. It must be the WAP54G then.

  Yes.

> I'm still using those AP's and I keep getting the error in the logs.
> It's indeed quite random. The error seems not harmful (although the
> sourcecode of freeRadius says the AP is broken).

  :)  It's a common complaint on this list.  Some issues are FreeRADIUS
bugs.  Others are broken NASes.

  I'm in the process of putting together a RADIUS validation test suite,
so that manufacturers can see if their products are compliant *before*
shipping them.

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-10-04 Thread Jelle Langbroek
>
> I use the EAP/TTLS and EAP/PAP scheme.
> I have the same error as you but is somewhat at ramdom. In my case,
> APs Linksys WRT54GL has OpenWRT WhiteRussian installed. Could be some
> bad in clients? I've seen things too weirds in Mac OS X clients...
>
> I'd like to know if your problems have been fixed with Asus WL-G330ge.
> Also, I think that overlapping channels can be causing the error, so
> I'll change that...
>

Hi,
I can tell you that with my tests, I figured out that it's happening with
all sorts of clients (MacOSX, XP, Vista). It appears only to be happing with
the WAP54G (and now the WRT54GL you say). When I replaced the WAP54G with a
WAP200, the errors disappeared with the same clients. I tested this on many
locations with many different clients and everywhere the same results. It
must be the WAP54G then.
I'm still using those AP's and I keep getting the error in the logs. It's
indeed quite random. The error seems not harmful (although the sourcecode of
freeRadius says the AP is broken). I haven't been able to link complaints of
customers to this specific error, so I guess I should just stop paying
attention.

I ruled out the possibility that overlapping channels are causing the
problem. I tested it with overlapping channels and without. Nothing changes
regarding the error.

I mailed Linksys about the problem, and they sent me a newer beta-firmware
which isn't on their website. It's for the WAP54G ofcourse. If you want it,
I put it on our website here:
http://www.orxnet.org/files/
WAP54G-Cisco-EU-EN-3.08.02.zip
It works, but doesn't give me the results I hoped for.

So, I don't have the solution, but I guess it's not really that bad. If you
ever solve the problem I'd like to hear it! :)
Good luck!

Gr, Jelle






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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-10-04 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/6/13 Jelle Langbroek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I began testing different setups immediately. I
> located 1 AP which didn't regenerate the error (AP1) and swapped it with one
> which did generate the error (AP2).
> I then saw that AP1 (which now was located on the place of AP2), began
> generating the same errors. The clients are fixed , so I tested with the
> same clients on that location.
> My conclusion:
> 1) The error probably has something to do with the WAP54G, but;
> 2) The error is only produced in combination with some clients (don't know
> if it's a hardware issue, because it seems to have nothing to do with the
> OS. OSX and Windows Vista/XP are all 'sometimes' producing the error.
> 3) It might have something to do with overlapping channels, but my tests are
> not yet conclusive about that.
>
> It's all so much trial and error... I decided to just buy another AP
> (WAP200) to test and see if the same error pops up. I'm also going to try an
> Asus WL-G330ge, just to be sure. More on that later...
>
> Jelle
>
> ps: The models I use are Linksys WAP54G, v3.1, with firmware version 3.05.
>
>
>
> 2008/6/11 Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> jelle-e wrote:
>> > Everything seems to run smoothly but before every login attempt the logs
>> > say
>> > (something like):
>> >
>> > "Error: Discarding conflicting packet from client NAS-NAME port 3072 -
>> > ID: 3
>> > due to recent request 28."
>>
>>  That's pretty definitive.
>>
>> > After that the user logs in correctly.
>> >
>> > I have no idea where to start searching for the answer. Since this error
>> > appears to occur on every AP, I don't think they're all 'broken'.
>>
>>  It's possible.  If they're all the same manufacturer and software
>> version, they could all have the same bug.
>>
>> > Does anybody have an idea? Thanks in advance!
>>
>>  Run "tcpdump" or "wireshark" to look at the packets.  Odds are the
>> AP's *are* sending conflicting packets.  Look for 2 packets from the
>> same client IP && port, with the same RADIUS code and ID, within a
>> second of each other.  If the packet contents are different, then the AP
>> is broken.
>>
>>  i.e. You can believe that FreeRADIUS is broken, but *only* on your
>> system... and not on the other 10,000 systems with 100's of 1000's of
>> AP's.  Or, you can believe that your AP's are broken.
>>
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I use the EAP/TTLS and EAP/PAP scheme.
I have the same error as you but is somewhat at ramdom. In my case,
APs Linksys WRT54GL has OpenWRT WhiteRussian installed. Could be some
bad in clients? I've seen things too weirds in Mac OS X clients...

I'd like to know if your problems have been fixed with Asus WL-G330ge.
Also, I think that overlapping channels can be causing the error, so
I'll change that...

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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-06-13 Thread Jelle Langbroek
Hi,

Thanks for your reply. I began testing different setups immediately. I
located 1 AP which didn't regenerate the error (AP1) and swapped it with one
which did generate the error (AP2).
I then saw that AP1 (which now was located on the place of AP2), began
generating the same errors. The clients are fixed , so I tested with the
same clients on that location.
My conclusion:
1) The error probably has something to do with the WAP54G, but;
2) The error is only produced in combination with some clients (don't know
if it's a hardware issue, because it seems to have nothing to do with the
OS. OSX and Windows Vista/XP are all 'sometimes' producing the error.
3) It might have something to do with overlapping channels, but my tests are
not yet conclusive about that.

It's all so much trial and error... I decided to just buy another AP
(WAP200) to test and see if the same error pops up. I'm also going to try an
Asus WL-G330ge, just to be sure. More on that later...

Jelle

ps: The models I use are Linksys WAP54G, v3.1, with firmware version 3.05.



2008/6/11 Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> jelle-e wrote:
> > Everything seems to run smoothly but before every login attempt the logs
> say
> > (something like):
> >
> > "Error: Discarding conflicting packet from client NAS-NAME port 3072 -
> ID: 3
> > due to recent request 28."
>
>   That's pretty definitive.
>
> > After that the user logs in correctly.
> >
> > I have no idea where to start searching for the answer. Since this error
> > appears to occur on every AP, I don't think they're all 'broken'.
>
>   It's possible.  If they're all the same manufacturer and software
> version, they could all have the same bug.
>
> > Does anybody have an idea? Thanks in advance!
>
>   Run "tcpdump" or "wireshark" to look at the packets.  Odds are the
> AP's *are* sending conflicting packets.  Look for 2 packets from the
> same client IP && port, with the same RADIUS code and ID, within a
> second of each other.  If the packet contents are different, then the AP
> is broken.
>
>  i.e. You can believe that FreeRADIUS is broken, but *only* on your
> system... and not on the other 10,000 systems with 100's of 1000's of
> AP's.  Or, you can believe that your AP's are broken.
>
>  Alan DeKok.
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Re: Freeradius error: "Discarding conflicting packet"

2008-06-10 Thread Alan DeKok
jelle-e wrote:
> Everything seems to run smoothly but before every login attempt the logs say
> (something like):
> 
> "Error: Discarding conflicting packet from client NAS-NAME port 3072 - ID: 3
> due to recent request 28."

  That's pretty definitive.

> After that the user logs in correctly.
> 
> I have no idea where to start searching for the answer. Since this error
> appears to occur on every AP, I don't think they're all 'broken'.

  It's possible.  If they're all the same manufacturer and software
version, they could all have the same bug.

> Does anybody have an idea? Thanks in advance!

  Run "tcpdump" or "wireshark" to look at the packets.  Odds are the
AP's *are* sending conflicting packets.  Look for 2 packets from the
same client IP && port, with the same RADIUS code and ID, within a
second of each other.  If the packet contents are different, then the AP
is broken.

  i.e. You can believe that FreeRADIUS is broken, but *only* on your
system... and not on the other 10,000 systems with 100's of 1000's of
AP's.  Or, you can believe that your AP's are broken.

  Alan DeKok.
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