Re: [Freesurfer] Script to get recon processing time

2010-07-29 Thread Nick Schmansky
no, but if you add the flag   -time   to recon-all, you will get lines
like this in the recon-all.log:

time:: 0:11.49  cmd:: mris_anatomical_stats

where you can grep on 'time::' to get command run times, although you'd
have to add together some commands to get times for a stage.

note: runtimes can vary quite a bit, some subjects take a lot longer to
correct than others, and the newer intel nehalem architecture runs in
less than half the time as the older amd opteron and p4s.

n

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 17:19 -0400, Chris Watson wrote:
 Hello,
 Do you guys have a script that parses recon-all.log and spits out the 
 processing time for each step? Something that would be similar to this 
 in recon-all --help:
   -nomotioncor 5 min
   -nonuintensitycor 3 min
   -notalairach  4 min
   -nonormalization  3 min
   -noskullstrip 1 min
   -nogcareg 8 min
   -nocanorm 1 min
   -nocareg 10 hours
 
 and so on.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error

2010-07-29 Thread Nick Schmansky
you will need to get a fixed version of mri_ca_label from here:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/misc

n.

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 22:40 -0400, Watson, Christopher wrote:
 I was running a subject, and got this error:
 recon-all exited with ERRORS at Wed Jul 28 21:50:47 EDT 2010
 
 make: *** 
 [/usr/local/freesurfer/freesurfer-4.5.0/subjects/zhang_r/mri/aseg.mgz] Error 1
 
 The disk is not full, and permissions are in order. I've run several other 
 subjects with no problems. Initially my command line was recon-all 
 -autorecon2 -s zhang_r; then I tried again except with -make autorecon2, 
 and saw the same error.
 
 It exits at SubCort Seg 
 (mri_ca_label -align -nobigventricles norm.mgz transforms/talairach.m3z 
 /usr/local/freesurfer/current/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca 
 aseg.auto_noCCseg.mgz)
 
 The last several lines of output are:
 mri_ca_label GCA sequential renormalization: label 28 not consistently 
 computed.
 
 not using caudate to estimate GM means
 setting label Right_VentralDC based on Left_VentralDC = 1.15 x +  0
 estimating mean gm scale to be 1.01 x + 0.0
 estimating mean wm scale to be 1.00 x + 0.0
 estimating mean csf scale to be 1.01 x + 0.0
 saving intensity scales to aseg.auto_noCCseg.label_intensities.txt
 Linux cwatson.homeunix.net 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5.centos.plus #1 SMP Wed May 19 
 09:14:46 EDT 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 Any ideas?
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Re: [Freesurfer] Script to get recon processing time

2010-07-29 Thread Nick Schmansky
fyi, attached is the grep time::  output from a recent run (which took
27.5 hours).  this should at least spare you from having to run
recon-all -time yourself.  it was run on a 2GHz amd opteron.

n.


On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 11:38 -0400, Nick Schmansky wrote:
 no, but if you add the flag   -time   to recon-all, you will get lines
 like this in the recon-all.log:
 
 time:: 0:11.49  cmd:: mris_anatomical_stats
 
 where you can grep on 'time::' to get command run times, although you'd
 have to add together some commands to get times for a stage.
 
 note: runtimes can vary quite a bit, some subjects take a lot longer to
 correct than others, and the newer intel nehalem architecture runs in
 less than half the time as the older amd opteron and p4s.
 
 n
 
 On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 17:19 -0400, Chris Watson wrote:
  Hello,
  Do you guys have a script that parses recon-all.log and spits out the 
  processing time for each step? Something that would be similar to this 
  in recon-all --help:
-nomotioncor 5 min
-nonuintensitycor 3 min
-notalairach  4 min
-nonormalization  3 min
-noskullstrip 1 min
-nogcareg 8 min
-nocanorm 1 min
-nocareg 10 hours
  
  and so on.
  
  Thanks,
  Chris
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time:: 0:05.93	cmd:: mri_convert
time:: 0:05.93	cmd:: mri_convert
time:: 0:10.52	cmd:: mri_convert
time:: 0:03.88	cmd:: mri_add_xform_to_header
time:: 2:41.60	cmd:: mri_nu_correct.mni
time:: 1:26.74	cmd:: talairach_avi
time:: 0:00.28	cmd:: talairach_afd
time:: 5:26.60	cmd:: mri_normalize
time:: 1:02:34	cmd:: mri_em_register
time:: 2:10.99	cmd:: mri_watershed
time:: 1:11.88	cmd:: mri_gcut
time:: 53:11.75	cmd:: mri_em_register
time:: 4:00.77	cmd:: mri_ca_normalize
time:: 9:15:42	cmd:: mri_ca_register
time:: 2:26.80	cmd:: mri_ca_register
time:: 2:41.19	cmd:: mri_remove_neck
time:: 49:59.14	cmd:: mri_em_register
time:: 42:13.88	cmd:: mri_ca_label
time:: 1:29.74	cmd:: mri_cc
time:: 8:22.76	cmd:: mri_normalize
time:: 0:06.26	cmd:: mri_mask
time:: 2:15.52	cmd:: mri_segment
time:: 1:08.39	cmd:: mri_edit_wm_with_aseg
time:: 0:14.25	cmd:: mri_pretess
time:: 1:47.44	cmd:: mri_fill
time:: 0:07.82	cmd:: mri_pretess
time:: 0:06.26	cmd:: mri_tessellate
time:: 0:05.53	cmd:: mris_extract_main_component
time:: 0:08.82	cmd:: mris_smooth
time:: 1:32.37	cmd:: mris_inflate
time:: 11:54.58	cmd:: mris_sphere
time:: 32:29.24	cmd:: mris_fix_topology
time:: 0:06.86	cmd:: mris_remove_intersection
time:: 27:53.18	cmd:: mris_make_surfaces
time:: 0:00.17	cmd:: mris_calc
time:: 0:00.07	cmd:: mris_calc
time:: 0:00.10	cmd:: mris_calc
time:: 0:08.37	cmd:: mris_smooth
time:: 1:44.29	cmd:: mris_inflate
time:: 2:53.10	cmd:: mris_curvature
time:: 0:12.38	cmd:: mris_curvature_stats
time:: 2:59:01	cmd:: mris_sphere
time:: 1:42:58	cmd:: mris_register
time:: 0:04.70	cmd:: mris_jacobian
time:: 0:03.92	cmd:: mrisp_paint
time:: 2:34.75	cmd:: mris_ca_label
time:: 1:33.53	cmd:: mris_anatomical_stats
time:: 2:49.94	cmd:: mris_ca_label
time:: 1:54.05	cmd:: mris_anatomical_stats
time:: 0:09.09	cmd:: mri_pretess
time:: 0:06.06	cmd:: mri_tessellate
time:: 0:05.07	cmd:: mris_extract_main_component
time:: 0:08.84	cmd:: mris_smooth
time:: 1:41.04	cmd:: mris_inflate
time:: 11:16.03	cmd:: mris_sphere
time:: 43:49.82	cmd:: mris_fix_topology
time:: 0:08.65	cmd:: mris_remove_intersection
time:: 27:23.40	cmd:: mris_make_surfaces
time:: 0:00.43	cmd:: mris_calc
time:: 0:00.07	cmd:: mris_calc
time:: 0:00.10	cmd:: mris_calc
time:: 0:08.76	cmd:: mris_smooth
time:: 1:21.45	cmd:: mris_inflate
time:: 2:51.19	cmd:: mris_curvature
time:: 0:12.80	cmd:: mris_curvature_stats
time:: 2:10:09	cmd:: mris_sphere
time:: 1:48:06	cmd:: mris_register
time:: 0:04.58	cmd:: mris_jacobian
time:: 0:04.08	cmd:: mrisp_paint
time:: 2:34.42	cmd:: mris_ca_label
time:: 1:54.71	cmd:: mris_anatomical_stats
time:: 2:50.40	cmd:: mris_ca_label
time:: 2:04.81	cmd:: mris_anatomical_stats
time:: 34:49.65	cmd:: mris_volmask
time:: 18:39.54	cmd:: mri_segstats
time:: 7:07.57	cmd:: mri_aparc2aseg
time:: 7:02.38	cmd:: mri_aparc2aseg
time:: 16:53.63	cmd:: mri_aparc2aseg
time:: 28:07.75	cmd:: mri_segstats
time:: 0:00.02	cmd:: ln
time:: 0:18.98	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:22.28	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:18.37	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:20.10	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:19.96	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:18.64	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:29.49	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:18.81	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:17.79	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:19.80	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:23.95	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:16.81	cmd:: mri_label2label
time:: 0:03.92	cmd:: mris_label2annot

[Freesurfer] Overlay Thickness Files in tkmedit

2010-07-29 Thread Michael Scheel
Hi, is there a way to visualize the lh.thickness or rh.thickness files  
as an overlay in tkmedit.

Thanks, Michael

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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error

2010-07-29 Thread Chris Watson
Thanks, that did the trick.
Chris

Nick Schmansky wrote:
 you will need to get a fixed version of mri_ca_label from here:

 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/misc

 n.

 On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 22:40 -0400, Watson, Christopher wrote:
   
 I was running a subject, and got this error:
 recon-all exited with ERRORS at Wed Jul 28 21:50:47 EDT 2010

 make: *** 
 [/usr/local/freesurfer/freesurfer-4.5.0/subjects/zhang_r/mri/aseg.mgz] Error 
 1

 The disk is not full, and permissions are in order. I've run several other 
 subjects with no problems. Initially my command line was recon-all 
 -autorecon2 -s zhang_r; then I tried again except with -make autorecon2, 
 and saw the same error.

 It exits at SubCort Seg 
 (mri_ca_label -align -nobigventricles norm.mgz transforms/talairach.m3z 
 /usr/local/freesurfer/current/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca 
 aseg.auto_noCCseg.mgz)

 The last several lines of output are:
 mri_ca_label GCA sequential renormalization: label 28 not consistently 
 computed.

 not using caudate to estimate GM means
 setting label Right_VentralDC based on Left_VentralDC = 1.15 x +  0
 estimating mean gm scale to be 1.01 x + 0.0
 estimating mean wm scale to be 1.00 x + 0.0
 estimating mean csf scale to be 1.01 x + 0.0
 saving intensity scales to aseg.auto_noCCseg.label_intensities.txt
 Linux cwatson.homeunix.net 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5.centos.plus #1 SMP Wed May 19 
 09:14:46 EDT 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 Any ideas?
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[Freesurfer] skull strip

2010-07-29 Thread Tara Brah
I have a question regarding the skull stripping process.
I ran my data through recon-all but still had much skull intact.  I then
followed the recommended process per the freesurfer wiki to change the
watershed threshold levels on the recon process.  I did so at the 20, 15,
10, 5, and 0 threshold with little improvement to the amount of skull
removed.  I know a similar question has been asked but in that scenario
freesurfer was not including the skull as part of the cortical matter while
in my scenario it is.
Do you have any further suggestions as to how to remove the skull from my
images?
Thank you.
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Re: [Freesurfer] Overlay Thickness Files in tkmedit

2010-07-29 Thread Bruce Fischl

you could sample it into the volume then visualize that I guess.
On Thu, 29 
Jul 2010, Michael Scheel wrote:

 Hi, is there a way to visualize the lh.thickness or rh.thickness files
 as an overlay in tkmedit.

 Thanks, Michael

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Re: [Freesurfer] monkey brain recon outputs

2010-07-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Ali,


On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Arslan, Ali wrote:

 Hi,
 I finished reconstructing a monkey's surface following the scripts on
 the wiki. The output surfaces seems to be a bit distorted and rough
 around the edges.
 This reconstruction is done with a volume normalized by using ~400
 white matter control points. The resolution of the scan is 1x1x1 mm.
 Here are some pictures to look at:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/52445...@n05/sets/72157624471174691/

Are those real 1.0 mm isotropic volumes or 0.5 mm isotropic volumes 
faked to appear 1.0 mm isotropic?

 
 Interestingly, white matter and gray matter boundaries seem to be
 intermingled for some reason. I was hoping control points would take
 care of that problem but they didn't. This can be observed by the 2
 vol_surf images in the set.

Can you post screen shots of the brain.final.mgz and brain.mgz?

 
 The most obvious defects can be seen on the white matter. There are
 small protrusions over the gyri, and the surfaces are generally very
 rough, unlike a successful human reconstruction.

It pretty much looks like the segmentation in white and gray matter 
failed badly for the final surface. Also notice how the initial segmentation 
(wm.mgz) that produces the green line actually traces somewhere in between the 
white and gray matter boundary? It pretty much looks like the normalization of 
your images is not helpful for freesurfer. Alas, I have no real help to offer 
right now (I am struggling with similar issues tight now). In case I find a 
work around I might post a fresh set of processing scripts...


 
 
 I was wondering if you have any ideas as to the source of the problem.
 Skull stripping was done with FSL's bet, and it looks successful. Can
 it be a problem with intensity normalization?

I agree, the normalization does not really work out. I have no solution 
to offer right now. Well, except to have visually inspect the rawavg.mgz see 
whether you think there is enough dynamic contrast inthere that you could trace 
the white/gray matter boundary by hand. If yes, it should be possibly to 
convince freesurfer to do it for you. If not then you will need new scans.

Best
Sebastian


 
 Regards,
 Ali Arslan
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Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit scripting question

2010-07-29 Thread Krish Subramaniam
Hi Sebastian

I was able to manipulate the dialogue like this

%set gEditBrush(1,cloneSource) 1

%set gEditBrush(1,mode) 1

Try a combination of 0 or 1 for the last argument. And spaces ( or  
lack of them ) are absolutely important. Don't leave any space in  
gEditBrush(1,mode)

The first argument of gEditBrush denotes the brush. 0 means Brush 2  
and 1 means Brush 3. Let us know if it works

-Krish

On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote:

 Aloha fellow surfers,

 I am trying to script a few steps of my freesurfer pipeline. At the  
 moment I am facing the problem that all my brainmasks need some  
 manual intervention. Following advice from the wiki I try to set up  
 tkmedit to clone from the aux to the main volume on the pressing  
 button 3. Now my question how do I configure Button 3 from a tcl  
 script so that my users do not have to do this manually every time?
   I would expect something like SetBrushInfo that takes more  
 arguments than just brush, low, high, new, but my tcl-foo is very  
 weak. If someone has a pointer how to set Button 3 to clone from aux  
 vol I would be happy to hear it. Thanks in advance.

 Best
   Sebastian



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[Freesurfer] [fsfast]: temporal overlap of stimuli and concurrent presentation

2010-07-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Dear fellow Surfers,

is it possible to model several independent event streams for fs-fast? That is, 
using the 5 column paradigm file, is it okay to have different condition ID 
codes that have identical stimulus onset time (well only some of the time)? Or 
would I have to model that by specifying a TER and have both staggered around 
the real onset time? I would be happy to receive any pointer.

Thanks in advance  best regards
Sebastian


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Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit scripting question

2010-07-29 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Krish,

thanks a lot. Unfortunately that only sets the values for the dialog but does 
not actually activate them. I will try my luck, now that you showed me how to 
set more involved tcl structures :). I will report back (once our computer 
system works again).


Best
Sebastian

On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Krish Subramaniam wrote:

 Hi Sebastian
 
 I was able to manipulate the dialogue like this
 
 %set gEditBrush(1,cloneSource) 1
 
 %set gEditBrush(1,mode) 1
 
 Try a combination of 0 or 1 for the last argument. And spaces ( or  
 lack of them ) are absolutely important. Don't leave any space in  
 gEditBrush(1,mode)
 
 The first argument of gEditBrush denotes the brush. 0 means Brush 2  
 and 1 means Brush 3. Let us know if it works
 
 -Krish
 
 On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
 
 Aloha fellow surfers,
 
 I am trying to script a few steps of my freesurfer pipeline. At the  
 moment I am facing the problem that all my brainmasks need some  
 manual intervention. Following advice from the wiki I try to set up  
 tkmedit to clone from the aux to the main volume on the pressing  
 button 3. Now my question how do I configure Button 3 from a tcl  
 script so that my users do not have to do this manually every time?
  I would expect something like SetBrushInfo that takes more  
 arguments than just brush, low, high, new, but my tcl-foo is very  
 weak. If someone has a pointer how to set Button 3 to clone from aux  
 vol I would be happy to hear it. Thanks in advance.
 
 Best
  Sebastian
 
 
 
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 telephone: 626-395-6713
 fax: 626-395-8826
 German GSM:  0 15 77 - 1 90 31 41
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