Re: [Freesurfer] QC Montages error

2011-07-14 Thread Chindhuri Selvadurai
Hello, I have tried troubleshooting this problem in various ways, but I am
still not able to figure out the problem.

Does anyone have any idea?

Thank you!


 I am getting an error when using a script that combines these 3 actions:

 preproc.sh
 std_map_qc_montages.bash
 put_tpef.bash


 Freesurfer version 4
 SUBJECTS_DIR: /cluster/manoach/AS/RespMon12C/subjects
 Script:
 /cluster/manoach/AS/RespMon12C/scripts/preproc_std_qc_montages_put_tpef.sh

 It looks like the preproc-sess finishes okay, but the problem starts
 afterwards, but I'm not sure how to fix this easily.. it looks like it's
 looking for files that aren't there, but I haven't gotten this error
 before.

 Thanks!

 Output, with error at end:

 - mkbrainmask Done -

 Thu Jul  7 17:15:21 EDT 2011
 mkbrainmask-sess done
 
 Started at Thu Jul 7 16:54:00 EDT 2011
 Ended   at Thu Jul  7 17:15:21 EDT 2011
 preproc-sess done
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 mri_convert f.nii fskip8.nii --nskip 8
 nskip = 8
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.146.2.5 2009/04/08 18:40:23 nicks Exp $
 reading from f.nii...
 TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (-0.76, -0.00683426, -0.00130865)
 j_ras = (0.0069578, -0.984569, -0.174858)
 k_ras = (-9.34106e-05, -0.174863, 0.984593)
 Skipping 8 frames
 writing to fskip8.nii...
 bash: /space/ventzl/36/users/RespMon12C/scripts/RM12C_lightbox.bash: No
 such file or directory
 cp: cannot stat `./009/lightboxes/tsnr_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 cp: cannot stat `./009/lightboxes/tstd_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 cp: cannot stat `./009/lightboxes/tmean_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 bash: /space/ventzl/36/users/RespMon12C/scripts/RM12C_lightbox.bash: No
 such file or directory
 cp: cannot stat `./011/lightboxes/tsnr_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 cp: cannot stat `./011/lightboxes/tstd_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 cp: cannot stat `./011/lightboxes/tmean_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 bash: /space/ventzl/36/users/RespMon12C/scripts/RM12C_lightbox.bash: No
 such file or directory
 cp: cannot stat `./013/lightboxes/tsnr_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 cp: cannot stat `./013/lightboxes/tstd_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 cp: cannot stat `./013/lightboxes/tmean_lightbox.png': No such file or
 directory
 bash: /space/ventzl/36/users/RespMon12C/scripts/RM12C_lightbox.bash: 

Re: [Freesurfer] Corrections with white matter

2011-07-14 Thread Antonella Kis

Good morning Bruce,

Looking back to the Slice No.82 I am attaching now the brainmask for this 
slide. While switching between brainmask and wm.mgz my opinion is that  I 
shouldn't  add any vertex on the wm.mgz on the right hemisphere.  
Is this correct? I am not sure about the bottom part. It looks like part of the 
cerebellum had been removed. Should I adjust the watershed threshold by passing 
the -wsthresh flag to recon-all?


Thank you very much for your help.
Antonella





From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: Antonella Kis ator...@yahoo.com
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Corrections with white matter

yes, the brainmask would be fine. The wm.mgz is to diagnose what went 
wrong, but the brainmask tells you whether it is right or not
On Wed, 13 Jul 
2011, Antonella Kis wrote:

 
  Hi Bruce,
 
 Thanks again for helping so much. But how about the example in the tutorial
  *  FsTutorial/WhiteMatterEdits.
 I was following the example in how to fill the cutting into for yellow line. 
 There is mentioned only to open the brainmask and wm.mgz and 
 switching/checking between the two
 volumes. Will be this OK?
 
 Many thanks,
 Antonella
 
 
 From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: Antonella Kis ator...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Wed, July 13, 2011 4:36:21 PM
 Subject: Re: Corrections with white matter
 
 Hi Antonella,
 
 you can't tell whether it is correct from overlaying it on the wm.mgz. You 
 need to look at it over the MRI itself (either the norm.mgz or the orig.mgz) 
 and see if you would
 have drawn it in the same place. The place where the yellow line doesn't 
 follow the voxel surface is where a topological defect was corrected. It will 
 be topologically
 correct, but possibly not geometrically so.
 
 Bruce
 
 
 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Antonella Kis wrote:
 
  hi Bruce,
 
  Sorry they are tiff. I attached them again.
 
  Thank you very much.
  Antonella
 
 ___
 _
  From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: Antonella Kis ator...@yahoo.com
  Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Sent: Wed, July 13, 2011 3:47:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Corrections with white matter
 
  Hi Antonella,
 
  what format are the attachments in? They don't have an extension
  Bruce
  On Wed, 13
  Jul 2011, Antonella Kis wrote:
 
  
    Hi Bruce,
  
   Sorry to bother you again. I am doing my corrections for the white matter 
   and I have few slides where I am not sure what should I do. On the slice 
   no. 82 do I need to
   fill/edit voxels  on the right hemisphere area where the white surface 
   (yellow line) does not follow the surface of the brain, but in fact cuts 
   into it 9the black
 area).
  Is
   this a geometric inaccuracy  caused by a lesion where white matter has 
   been marked as non-white matter? I also attached the next slice no. 81 to 
   see how things will
  change.
  
   Thank you very much for your help!
   Antonella
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Attachement for the Corrections with white matter

2011-07-14 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Antonella,

the surfaces look fine. As for the cerebellum, I don't think the 
watershed did that - it's too even. What does the orig.mgz look like?


cheers
Bruce
On 
Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Antonella Kis wrote:






Good morning Bruce,

Looking back to the Slice No.82 I am attaching now the brainmask for this 
slide. While switching between brainmask and wm.mgz my opinion is that  I 
shouldn't  add any
vertex on the wm.mgz on the right hemisphere. 
Is this correct? I am not sure about the bottom part. It looks like part of the 
cerebellum had been removed. Should I adjust the watershed threshold by passing 
the
-wsthresh flag to recon-all?


Thank you very much for your help.
Antonella



From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: Antonella Kis ator...@yahoo.com
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Corrections with white matter

yes, the brainmask would be fine. The wm.mgz is to diagnose what went
wrong, but the brainmask tells you whether it is right or not
On Wed, 13 Jul
2011, Antonella Kis wrote:


  Hi Bruce,

 Thanks again for helping so much. But how about the example in the tutorial
  *  FsTutorial/WhiteMatterEdits.
 I was following the example in how to fill the cutting into for yellow line. 
There is mentioned only to open the brainmask and wm.mgz and switching/checking 
between the
two
 volumes. Will be this OK?

 Many thanks,
 Antonella

___
_
 From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: Antonella Kis ator...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Wed, July 13, 2011 4:36:21 PM
 Subject: Re: Corrections with white matter

 Hi Antonella,

 you can't tell whether it is correct from overlaying it on the wm.mgz. You 
need to look at it over the MRI itself (either the norm.mgz or the orig.mgz) and 
see if you
would
 have drawn it in the same place. The place where the yellow line doesn't 
follow the voxel surface is where a topological defect was corrected. It will be 
topologically
 correct, but possibly not geometrically so.

 Bruce


 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Antonella Kis wrote:

  hi Bruce,
 
  Sorry they are tiff. I attached them again.
 
  Thank you very much.
  Antonella
 
__
_
 _
  From: Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: Antonella Kis ator...@yahoo.com
  Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Sent: Wed, July 13, 2011 3:47:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Corrections with white matter
 
  Hi Antonella,
 
  what format are the attachments in? They don't have an extension
  Bruce
  On Wed, 13
  Jul 2011, Antonella Kis wrote:
 
  
    Hi Bruce,
  
   Sorry to bother you again. I am doing my corrections for the white matter 
and I have few slides where I am not sure what should I do. On the slice no. 82 do I 
need to
   fill/edit voxels  on the right hemisphere area where the white surface 
(yellow line) does not follow the surface of the brain, but in fact cuts into it 9the 
black
 area).
  Is
   this a geometric inaccuracy  caused by a lesion where white matter has 
been marked as non-white matter? I also attached the next slice no. 81 to see how things 
will
  change.
  
   Thank you very much for your help!
   Antonella
  
  
  
  
 
 
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[Freesurfer] Choice of input surface for mris_make_face_parcellation

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Waskom
Hi Bruce,

I'm playing around with mris_make_face_parcellation, and I'm looking
for guidance on choosing the input surface.

In the usage message, the example that is given says:

example: mris_make_face_parcellation lh.inflated
$FREESURFER_HOME/lib/bem/ic3.tri ./lh.ic3.annot

The choice of the inflated surface seems weird to me, as isn't it
really just used for visualization?  Seems like you'd either want to
use a surface that's representative of the actual brain geometry (e.g.
white, or graymid) or the sphere.  But I'm a little confused in
general about what's going on behind the scenes here so I don't trust
my intuition.

Cheers,
Michael
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Re: [Freesurfer] Choice of input surface for mris_make_face_parcellation

2011-07-14 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Miichael,

oh, that was definitely a mistake. You want to use either ?h.sphere if 
you want it to be uniform in subject space or ?h.sphere.reg if you want 
the parcels to correspond across subjects.

Sorry for the bad advice.
Bruce

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Michael Waskom wrote:

 Hi Bruce,

 I'm playing around with mris_make_face_parcellation, and I'm looking
 for guidance on choosing the input surface.

 In the usage message, the example that is given says:

 example: mris_make_face_parcellation lh.inflated
 $FREESURFER_HOME/lib/bem/ic3.tri ./lh.ic3.annot

 The choice of the inflated surface seems weird to me, as isn't it
 really just used for visualization?  Seems like you'd either want to
 use a surface that's representative of the actual brain geometry (e.g.
 white, or graymid) or the sphere.  But I'm a little confused in
 general about what's going on behind the scenes here so I don't trust
 my intuition.

 Cheers,
 Michael
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[Freesurfer] Saving all the edits

2011-07-14 Thread Antonella Kis
Hi Bruce,

I promise this is my last question for today. I finished all the wm edits and I 
understood from the tutorial that I have to save this work. I understood that 
by default tkmedit will edit on the main volume loaded, if the wm
volume is loaded as your aux volume (which is my case), I also needed to select 
Aux volume as the Target (and I did) but how I am saving my edits before I 
start to recreate the final surfaces with the command: 
recon-all -autorecon2-wm -subjid wm1_edits_before

Many thanks and have a great day!
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Re: [Freesurfer] Saving all the edits

2011-07-14 Thread Bruce Fischl
yes, but you can double check by doing the save and bringing up a second 
instance of tkmedit with wm.mgz before exiting the first to make sure the 
edits are in it

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Antonella 
Kis wrote:

 Hi Bruce,
 
 I promise this is my last question for today. I finished all the wm edits and 
 I understood from the tutorial that I have to save this work. I understood 
 that by default
 tkmedit will edit on the main volume loaded, if the wm volume is loaded as 
 your aux volume (which is my case), I also needed to select Aux volume as the 
 Target (and I did)
 but how I am saving my edits before I start to recreate the final surfaces 
 with the command:
 
 recon-all -autorecon2-wm -subjid wm1_edits_before
 Many thanks and have a great day!
 Antonella
 
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula - error in pre-proc

2011-07-14 Thread phoebe
Hi Priti,

Thank you for your help.  I get through the fslroi successfully by setting
the nb0 variable.  The lowb.nii.gz looks fine.  However, when the process
comes to bet, there's another error prompt for lowb.nii.gz.hdr.

fslmaths
/autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz
-Tmean
/autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz
bet
/autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz
/autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb_brain.nii.gz
-m -f 0.3
Can't open
/autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz.hdr
Linux guasha 2.6.18-194.32.1.el5 #1 SMP Wed Jan 5 17:52:25 EST 2011 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Kindly help.

Phoebe.


 Hi Phoebe,

 The fslroi part extracts all the low-b images from the 4D diffusion data
 and creates an average low-b mask.

 fslroi input output tmin tsize

 tsize is the number of 3D low-b volumes to be extracted from the 4D
 diffusion volume. For some reason tracula is unable to read the no. of
 low-b images from your dicom header (Is this an MGH acquisition?). If you
 know the number of low-b volumes you can specify that in the configuration
 file using the following command:

 set nb0 = *No. of low-b images*

 Once you set that value it should not throw that error. From what you ran
 in the commandline, I assume that in your dti acquisition 0 through 25 are
 low-b volumes.

 Creating the low-b image mask is the last step in the first stepwise
 directive of tracula (-corr). You can go through the rest of the steps by
 specifying any or all of the stepwise directives:

 Ex: trac-all -intra -inter -masks -tensor -prior -c
 ./scripts/dmrirc_single_subject

 Please let us know if you have any questions or problems running the same.

 Thanks,
 Priti

 Hi,

 I do the pre-processing with the following command:

 trac-all -prep -c ./scripts/dmrirc_single_subject

 THe process exits with error when it comes to fslroi (attached pls find
 the log file).  I try to re-run the fslroi command as follow:

 fslroi
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/dwi.nii.
 gz
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz

 0 25

 It works and the lowb.nii.gz looks normal.  In case if I have the same
 problem with another dataset, how can I incorporate the number of frames
 (25) in the trac-all command for the fslroi?  Can I continue the
 remaining
 procedures of trac-all from this point?

 Thank you.

 Phoebe.
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[Freesurfer] tracula pub

2011-07-14 Thread GREGORY R KIRK

i thought at one time i saw a paper on the tracula methods, maybe it was the 
better tractography allignment paper.
is there a paper specifically about the global tractography method and related, 
or an mit tech. report or anything

thanks

greg
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Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula - error in pre-proc

2011-07-14 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Hi Phoebe - I don't have permission to access your files, but do you have 
FSLOUTPUTTYPE set to anything other than nifti by any chance?

a.y

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, pho...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Priti,

 Thank you for your help.  I get through the fslroi successfully by setting
 the nb0 variable.  The lowb.nii.gz looks fine.  However, when the process
 comes to bet, there's another error prompt for lowb.nii.gz.hdr.

 fslmaths
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz
 -Tmean
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz
 bet
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb_brain.nii.gz
 -m -f 0.3
 Can't open
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz.hdr
 Linux guasha 2.6.18-194.32.1.el5 #1 SMP Wed Jan 5 17:52:25 EST 2011 x86_64
 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 Kindly help.

 Phoebe.


 Hi Phoebe,

 The fslroi part extracts all the low-b images from the 4D diffusion data
 and creates an average low-b mask.

 fslroi input output tmin tsize

 tsize is the number of 3D low-b volumes to be extracted from the 4D
 diffusion volume. For some reason tracula is unable to read the no. of
 low-b images from your dicom header (Is this an MGH acquisition?). If you
 know the number of low-b volumes you can specify that in the configuration
 file using the following command:

 set nb0 = *No. of low-b images*

 Once you set that value it should not throw that error. From what you ran
 in the commandline, I assume that in your dti acquisition 0 through 25 are
 low-b volumes.

 Creating the low-b image mask is the last step in the first stepwise
 directive of tracula (-corr). You can go through the rest of the steps by
 specifying any or all of the stepwise directives:

 Ex: trac-all -intra -inter -masks -tensor -prior -c
 ./scripts/dmrirc_single_subject

 Please let us know if you have any questions or problems running the same.

 Thanks,
 Priti

 Hi,

 I do the pre-processing with the following command:

 trac-all -prep -c ./scripts/dmrirc_single_subject

 THe process exits with error when it comes to fslroi (attached pls find
 the log file).  I try to re-run the fslroi command as follow:

 fslroi
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/dwi.nii.
 gz
 /autofs/space/guasha_001/users/phoebe/strab_func_chan4/strab_func_chan_diffrecons/040826_cst/dmri/lowb.nii.gz

 0 25

 It works and the lowb.nii.gz looks normal.  In case if I have the same
 problem with another dataset, how can I incorporate the number of frames
 (25) in the trac-all command for the fslroi?  Can I continue the
 remaining
 procedures of trac-all from this point?

 Thank you.

 Phoebe.
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Re: [Freesurfer] tracula pub

2011-07-14 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Hi Greg - The paper has been with anonymous reviewers for the last 4 
months :(

a.y

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, GREGORY R KIRK wrote:


 i thought at one time i saw a paper on the tracula methods, maybe it was the 
 better tractography allignment paper.
 is there a paper specifically about the global tractography method and 
 related, or an mit tech. report or anything

 thanks

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Re: [Freesurfer] tracula pub

2011-07-14 Thread Matt Glasser
Hi Greg,

I think the tracula folks might have gotten their original code from Saad
Jbabdi, but then the code-bases have probably diverged.  (My apologizes if
this is not correct!).  Here is Saad's publication on global tractography:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17543543/

Peace,

Matt.

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Yendiki
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:48 PM
To: GREGORY R KIRK
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tracula pub


Hi Greg - The paper has been with anonymous reviewers for the last 4 
months :(

a.y

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, GREGORY R KIRK wrote:


 i thought at one time i saw a paper on the tracula methods, maybe it was
the better tractography allignment paper.
 is there a paper specifically about the global tractography method and
related, or an mit tech. report or anything

 thanks

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Re: [Freesurfer] tracula pub

2011-07-14 Thread Bruce Fischl
Yes, Matt is correct
Bruce



On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com wrote:

 Hi Greg,
 
 I think the tracula folks might have gotten their original code from Saad
 Jbabdi, but then the code-bases have probably diverged.  (My apologizes if
 this is not correct!).  Here is Saad's publication on global tractography:
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17543543/
 
 Peace,
 
 Matt.
 
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 From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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 Yendiki
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:48 PM
 To: GREGORY R KIRK
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tracula pub
 
 
 Hi Greg - The paper has been with anonymous reviewers for the last 4 
 months :(
 
 a.y
 
 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, GREGORY R KIRK wrote:
 
 
 i thought at one time i saw a paper on the tracula methods, maybe it was
 the better tractography allignment paper.
 is there a paper specifically about the global tractography method and
 related, or an mit tech. report or anything
 
 thanks
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] tracula pub

2011-07-14 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

In fact it's a combination of Saad's likelihood term with an anatomical 
prior term that uses diffusion and anatomical data.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Matt Glasser wrote:

 Hi Greg,

 I think the tracula folks might have gotten their original code from Saad
 Jbabdi, but then the code-bases have probably diverged.  (My apologizes if
 this is not correct!).  Here is Saad's publication on global tractography:

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17543543/

 Peace,

 Matt.

 -Original Message-
 From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Anastasia
 Yendiki
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:48 PM
 To: GREGORY R KIRK
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tracula pub


 Hi Greg - The paper has been with anonymous reviewers for the last 4
 months :(

 a.y

 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, GREGORY R KIRK wrote:


 i thought at one time i saw a paper on the tracula methods, maybe it was
 the better tractography allignment paper.
 is there a paper specifically about the global tractography method and
 related, or an mit tech. report or anything

 thanks

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Re: [Freesurfer] retinotopy manual?

2011-07-14 Thread Douglas Greve
I think you can load overlays into freeview. After that it is a matter 
of setting the thresholds right. I think we have a fix for the sliver 
problem.

doug

On 7/14/11 10:26 PM, Babak wrote:
 Thanks Doug,
 I fixed that problem and completed the analysis process, but tksurfer
 doesn't work on my system. It seems to be the Sliver problem, and I used the
 freeview to look at my surfaces and volumes. I'm not sure however if I can
 use freeview for retinotopic mapping. Could you kindly give me some insight
 on that?

 Thanks Again,
 Babak

 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:57 PM
 To: Babak
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] retinotopy manual?

 does
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003/fmcpr.sm5.haluk.lh.n
 ii.gz
 exist? If not, then you need to run the preprocessing (or exclude
 -no-preproc)

 Babak wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Another freeSurfer newbie question . I followed your steps for
 retinotopic mapping in freesurfer

 (http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg16562.html),
 and got as far as selxavg3. I have attached the error and log file
 that I got, if you could kindly have a look.

 Thanks a lot,

 Babak

  Log File
 -

 [bnooryme@Vision-1 data-parent]$ selxavg3-sess -a rtopy.haluk.lh -sf
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/subjectname -d
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent -no-preproc

 Surface data haluk lh

 --

 selxavg3-sess logfile is

 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/log/selxavg3-sess-bold-rtopy.haluk.
 lh-110708131238.log
 --

 ---

 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk

 Fri Jul 8 13:12:38 CDT 2011

 anadir =
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/rtopy.haluk.lh

 DoGLMFit = 1

 DoContrasts = 1

 UpdateNeeded = 1

 --

 --- matlab output 

 Warning: Unable to open display 'iconic'. You will not be able to
 display graphics on the screen.

   M A T L A B (R)

 Copyright 1984-2009 The MathWorks, Inc.

 Version 7.9.0.529 (R2009b) 64-bit (glnxa64)

 August 12, 2009

 To get started, type one of these: helpwin, helpdesk, or demo.

 For product information, visit www.mathworks.com.

 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_selxavg3.m

 #@# haluk ###

 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk

 -

 $Id: fast_selxavg3.m,v 1.100 2011/03/02 16:14:38 greve Exp $

 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_selxavg3.m

 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_ldanaflac.m

 /home/programs/freesurfer/matlab/MRIread.m

 -

 outtop = /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent

 Extension format = nii.gz

 ??? Error using ==  MRIread at 76

 ERROR: cannot determine format of

 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003/fmcpr.sm5.haluk.lh

 (MRIread)

 Error in ==  flac_customize at 87

 mri = MRIread(fstem,1);

 Error in ==  fast_selxavg3 at 65

 flac0 = flac_customize(flac0);

 --
 ERROR: fast_selxavg3() failed\n

 [bnooryme@Vision-1 data-parent]$

  Log File
 -

 selxavg3-sess log file

 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/selxavg3-sess

 -a rtopy.haluk.lh -sf
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/subjectname -d
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/

 $Id: selxavg3-sess,v 1.57 2010/08/25 19:07:25 greve Exp $

 uid=18368(bnooryme) gid=(xdem) groups=(xdem),13700(ogmen)
 context=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t

 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003

 Linux Vision-1.EE.UH.EDU 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Sat May 7 20:18:50
 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 Thu Jul 7 15:28:23 CDT 2011

 preproc-sess -s haluk -d /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent -a
 rtopy.haluk.lh -nolog

 --

 preproc-sess logfile is /dev/null

 --

 $Id: preproc-sess,v 1.45.2.1 2011/03/22 17:16:19 greve Exp $

 bnooryme

 setenv FREESURFER_HOME /home/programs/freesurfer

 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /home/programs/freesurfer/subjects

 Linux Vision-1.EE.UH.EDU 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Sat May 7 20:18:50
 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003

 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/preproc-sess

 -s haluk -d /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent -a rtopy.haluk.lh
 -nolog

 Thu Jul 7 15:28:23 CDT 2011

 instem f

 mc 1 f fmcpr

 stc 0 fmcpr

 sm 0

 mask 1 brain

 haluk Template -


Re: [Freesurfer] retinotopy manual?

2011-07-14 Thread Bruce Fischl
I think the sliver problem means you need to update your video driver
Bruce



On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 I think you can load overlays into freeview. After that it is a matter 
 of setting the thresholds right. I think we have a fix for the sliver 
 problem.
 
 doug
 
 On 7/14/11 10:26 PM, Babak wrote:
 Thanks Doug,
 I fixed that problem and completed the analysis process, but tksurfer
 doesn't work on my system. It seems to be the Sliver problem, and I used the
 freeview to look at my surfaces and volumes. I'm not sure however if I can
 use freeview for retinotopic mapping. Could you kindly give me some insight
 on that?
 
 Thanks Again,
 Babak
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:57 PM
 To: Babak
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] retinotopy manual?
 
 does
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003/fmcpr.sm5.haluk.lh.n
 ii.gz
 exist? If not, then you need to run the preprocessing (or exclude
 -no-preproc)
 
 Babak wrote:
 Hi Doug,
 
 Another freeSurfer newbie question . I followed your steps for
 retinotopic mapping in freesurfer
 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg16562.html),
 and got as far as selxavg3. I have attached the error and log file
 that I got, if you could kindly have a look.
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Babak
 
  Log File
 -
 
 [bnooryme@Vision-1 data-parent]$ selxavg3-sess -a rtopy.haluk.lh -sf
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/subjectname -d
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent -no-preproc
 
 Surface data haluk lh
 
 --
 
 selxavg3-sess logfile is
 
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/log/selxavg3-sess-bold-rtopy.haluk.
 lh-110708131238.log
 --
 
 ---
 
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk
 
 Fri Jul 8 13:12:38 CDT 2011
 
 anadir =
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/rtopy.haluk.lh
 
 DoGLMFit = 1
 
 DoContrasts = 1
 
 UpdateNeeded = 1
 
 --
 
 --- matlab output 
 
 Warning: Unable to open display 'iconic'. You will not be able to
 display graphics on the screen.
 
   M A T L A B (R)
 
 Copyright 1984-2009 The MathWorks, Inc.
 
 Version 7.9.0.529 (R2009b) 64-bit (glnxa64)
 
 August 12, 2009
 
 To get started, type one of these: helpwin, helpdesk, or demo.
 
 For product information, visit www.mathworks.com.
 
 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_selxavg3.m
 
 #@# haluk ###
 
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk
 
 -
 
 $Id: fast_selxavg3.m,v 1.100 2011/03/02 16:14:38 greve Exp $
 
 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_selxavg3.m
 
 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_ldanaflac.m
 
 /home/programs/freesurfer/matlab/MRIread.m
 
 -
 
 outtop = /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent
 
 Extension format = nii.gz
 
 ??? Error using ==  MRIread at 76
 
 ERROR: cannot determine format of
 
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003/fmcpr.sm5.haluk.lh
 
 (MRIread)
 
 Error in ==  flac_customize at 87
 
 mri = MRIread(fstem,1);
 
 Error in ==  fast_selxavg3 at 65
 
 flac0 = flac_customize(flac0);
 
 --
 ERROR: fast_selxavg3() failed\n
 
 [bnooryme@Vision-1 data-parent]$
 
  Log File
 -
 
 selxavg3-sess log file
 
 /home/programs/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/selxavg3-sess
 
 -a rtopy.haluk.lh -sf
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/subjectname -d
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/
 
 $Id: selxavg3-sess,v 1.57 2010/08/25 19:07:25 greve Exp $
 
 uid=18368(bnooryme) gid=(xdem) groups=(xdem),13700(ogmen)
 context=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t
 
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003
 
 Linux Vision-1.EE.UH.EDU 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Sat May 7 20:18:50
 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 Thu Jul 7 15:28:23 CDT 2011
 
 preproc-sess -s haluk -d /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent -a
 rtopy.haluk.lh -nolog
 
 --
 
 preproc-sess logfile is /dev/null
 
 --
 
 $Id: preproc-sess,v 1.45.2.1 2011/03/22 17:16:19 greve Exp $
 
 bnooryme
 
 setenv FREESURFER_HOME /home/programs/freesurfer
 
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /home/programs/freesurfer/subjects
 
 Linux Vision-1.EE.UH.EDU 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Sat May 7 20:18:50
 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 /data/fMRIdata/1/users/babak/data-parent/haluk/bold/003