Re: [Freesurfer] two questions: asymmetry and controlling for global thickness abnormality

2011-09-05 Thread Tetiana Dadakova
Thank you Michael. I have more questions on this:

1. Is there a method to calculate if I have global difference in
thickness between groups?
2. How can I control for global thickness difference vertex-wise using
freesurfer?

Best wishes,
Tanja.


On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Michael Harms  wrote:
>
> Regarding #2: Yes, if you a have global difference in thickness between
> groups, then it is appropriate to control for that in the same manner that
> one frequently controls for total brain volume in volumetric analyses.
>
> cheers,
> -MH
>
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I have two question:
>>
>> 1. Is it possible to do the asymmetry analysis in FS, I mean to
>> compare left and right hemispheres within one group?
>>
>> 2. Is it necessary to somehow control for global abnormality of
>> thickness while looking at regional abnormality, e.g. if one group has
>> thinner brain overall, but also thinner brain in some regions?
>> (Similar to dividing by total brain volume in volumetric analysis)
>>
>> Thank you and best wishes,
>> Tanja.
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Re: [Freesurfer] two questions: asymmetry and controlling for global thickness abnormality

2011-09-05 Thread Bruce Fischl
for #1 you are probably best waiting for Doug and Mert's new laterality 
processing stream. Maybe one of them can give you an idea of when it would 
be ready

Bruce

On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Michael Harms wrote:

>
> Regarding #2: Yes, if you a have global difference in thickness between
> groups, then it is appropriate to control for that in the same manner that
> one frequently controls for total brain volume in volumetric analyses.
>
> cheers,
> -MH
>
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I have two question:
>>
>> 1. Is it possible to do the asymmetry analysis in FS, I mean to
>> compare left and right hemispheres within one group?
>>
>> 2. Is it necessary to somehow control for global abnormality of
>> thickness while looking at regional abnormality, e.g. if one group has
>> thinner brain overall, but also thinner brain in some regions?
>> (Similar to dividing by total brain volume in volumetric analysis)
>>
>> Thank you and best wishes,
>> Tanja.
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Re: [Freesurfer] two questions: asymmetry and controlling for global thickness abnormality

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Harms

Regarding #2: Yes, if you a have global difference in thickness between
groups, then it is appropriate to control for that in the same manner that
one frequently controls for total brain volume in volumetric analyses.

cheers,
-MH

> Dear list,
>
> I have two question:
>
> 1. Is it possible to do the asymmetry analysis in FS, I mean to
> compare left and right hemispheres within one group?
>
> 2. Is it necessary to somehow control for global abnormality of
> thickness while looking at regional abnormality, e.g. if one group has
> thinner brain overall, but also thinner brain in some regions?
> (Similar to dividing by total brain volume in volumetric analysis)
>
> Thank you and best wishes,
> Tanja.
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[Freesurfer] questions about mapping volume data to brain surface and extracting cortical thickness

2011-09-05 Thread ZhiLiangLong
Hi FS experts:
 I have two questions about FS.
 (1) Is there a way that can map volume data(.hdr and .img file) to brain 
surface in FS?
 (2) I find a way that can extract cortical thickness 
automatically,first,the statistical significant areas derived from group 
analysis on qdec
are converted to annotation file using mri_surfcluster,then i use 
mri_annotation2label to convert the annotation file to label file,finally,
mri_label2label and mri_anatomical_stats are used to map the label file 
to each subject and obtain cortical thickness.
 I want to know if the process is correct.
   
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[Freesurfer] two questions: asymmetry and controlling for global thickness abnormality

2011-09-05 Thread Tetiana Dadakova
Dear list,

I have two question:

1. Is it possible to do the asymmetry analysis in FS, I mean to
compare left and right hemispheres within one group?

2. Is it necessary to somehow control for global abnormality of
thickness while looking at regional abnormality, e.g. if one group has
thinner brain overall, but also thinner brain in some regions?
(Similar to dividing by total brain volume in volumetric analysis)

Thank you and best wishes,
Tanja.
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[Freesurfer] Using different versions of FS for the same dataset (5.0 and 5.1)

2011-09-05 Thread Alexander Lebedev
Dear Freesurfer users and developers,

I apologize if this question sounds rhetorically or maybe it has been 
asked previously (I didn't find the answers in the archives). But here 
it is... I have a big dataset of images and several workstations. I 
started the analysis on the first one and afterwards I installed 
Freesurfer on the others. But just right now I have noticed that their 
versions are different (I have v5.0 on the first computer, whereas other 
ones have 5.1). Could you please tell me if I should redo all the 
analyses from the first workstation or if it is ok and I can upgrade my 
version and keep it going?
Thank you very much beforehand!
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Best Regards,
Alex
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