[Freesurfer] Measure outer surface area

2013-07-14 Thread Irene Altarelli
Dear all,

how can I measure the surface area of the outer surface computed to 
calculate lgi? I've tried mris_anatomical_stats subject lh 
pial-outer-smoothed but that doesn't work (since it doesn't match lh.pial).

Any idea would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Irene
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[Freesurfer] motion dependent resolution: bbr vs flt

2013-07-14 Thread Roschinski, Benjamin
Dear freesurfer experts and users,

we visualize white matter tracts of anorexia nervosa patients which are 
characterized by more movements in mri studies.
We have the impression that we get worser TRACULA outputs by using bbregister 
than flt.
Could it be possible that bbregister needs a higher resolution than flt?
So summarizing it is more sensitive for motion?

kind regards

Benjamin
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Re: [Freesurfer] displaying labels from old session onto new session

2013-07-14 Thread Bianca van Kemenade
Dear Doug  Bruce,

It's indeed a confusing situation. What it boils down to is:

- I scanned the polar angle session and the eccentricity session on
different days
- I had defined V1-3 already based on the polar angle session before
scanning eccentricity
- All data from the polar angle session were lost, apart from the V1-3
labels I made and the anatomical (not inflated)
- Since I now didn't have an inflated brain anymore, I inflated the
anatomical from the eccentricity
- When I tried to overlay the labels onto this newly inflated brain, the
labels were not correctly displayed

I just tried again by inflating the anatomical from the polar angle session
(instead of eccentricity), and when I use tksurfer P2_BK lh inflated
-reassign the labels are displayed correctly, so that's great news!

However, when I display my eccentricity data, with tksurfer-sess -c eccen
-fthresh 0.5 -a rtopy.self.lh.eccen -s P2_BK, the labels are wrong again.
Adding -reassign doesn't work in this command (flag not recognised). So at
least I could open two terminals, one to display the inflated brain with
correct labels, and one to display the eccentricity data. This is of course
not ideal if I want to draw labels on the eccentricity screen using the
labels displayed in the other screen as a boundary. So if anyone has an
idea how to get the labels to be displayed correctly with the tksurfer-sess
command please let me know.

In any case, thank you all for your help so far!

Best,
Bianca




On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Douglas N Greve
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Bianca, I'm still unclear what it is you have done.

 You only need to run freesurfer on one of the anatomicals, it does not
 matter which one.

 You should not do anything to the fMRI runs (eg, align with SPM). You
 should put your eccen and polar data into a single bold folder under
 your session folder.

 Then run preproc-sess.

 I'm not sure how this overlaps with what you have done

 doug


 On 07/11/2013 05:10 AM, Bianca van Kemenade wrote:
  Well the situation is as follows:
 
  I had a polar angle session, of which I only have the labels and the
  anatomical (not inflated) left due to a computer crash. In a different
  session, I scanned both my main experiment and the eccentricity runs.
  Since the eccentricity was in the same session as the main experiment,
  I included those runs in my preprocessing batch in SPM, that is I
  realigned them and coregistered the data to the anatomical of the
  polar angle session. I then inflated the anatomical of this newer
  session (the one with eccentricity) and did my analyses of the
  eccentricity data without using preproc-sess. Apologies if I wasn't
 clear.
 
  I thought it should therefore be no problem to overlay the polar angle
  labels onto the newly inflated anatomical, since this one was
  coregistered to the one from the polar angle session. However the
  labels don't look correct. Should I have inflated the 'old' anatomical
  instead? Or would I then nevertheless have needed some kind of
  transformation?
 
  I tried mri_label2label, but when I use a command like this:
 
  mri_label2label --srcsubject P2_BK_test --trgsubject P2_BK --scrlabel
  lh_V1_v.label --trglabel lh_V1_v_new.label --regmethod volume
 
  then it requires access to the anatomical in mri/orig from the
  srcsubject (the same subject, old session), which I don't have. Well I
  do have the .nii anatomical, but it can't read that header either, it
  probably needs the .mgz one which I don't have. When I try the command
  like this:
 
  mri_label2label --s P2_BK --scrlabel lh_V1_v.label --trglabel
  lh_V1_v_new.label --regmethod volume
 
  it does create a new label, which however looks exactly the same as
  the previous one. When I change --regmethod to surface, it gives this
  error:
  ERROR: there is a vertex in the label that cannot be matched to the
  surface. This usually occurs when the label and surface are from
  different subjects or hemispheres or the surface has been changed
  since the label was created.
 
  I'm not sure about using bbregister for the labels, what would be the
  movable volume? And do I then use the register.dat file to load the
  labels with? Thanks again for your patience and help.
 
  Best,
  Bianca
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Douglas N Greve
  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
 
  Hi Bianca, I'm a little confused. What do you mean you registered
 with
  SPM beforehand? If you're using FSFAST, then the registration is
  done as
  part of preproc-sess. The results for both sessions are on the
  surface,
  so there is no need to do anything to a label created from one
 session
  to show it on another session.
 
  doug
 
 
 
 
  On 07/10/2013 11:55 AM, Bianca van Kemenade wrote:
   Hi Bruce,
  
   Thank you for your reply. I coregistered the new data beforehand in
   SPM (to the structural of the old session). So 

Re: [Freesurfer] Measure outer surface area

2013-07-14 Thread Bruce Fischl
mris_info should give you surface area



On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Irene Altarelli irene.altare...@ens.fr wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 how can I measure the surface area of the outer surface computed to 
 calculate lgi? I've tried mris_anatomical_stats subject lh 
 pial-outer-smoothed but that doesn't work (since it doesn't match lh.pial).
 
 Any idea would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thank you,
 Irene
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Re: [Freesurfer] integrating another atlas into Freesurfer

2013-07-14 Thread Thomas Yeo
Hi Jeff,

If you run recon-all on your individual subjects, it would have
automatically generate the registration files (?h.sphere.reg) to fsaverage.
Doug's reply about mri_surf2surf should work. You just need to apply
mri_surf2surf separately for the left and right annots.

Cheers,
Thomas


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Jeff Eriksen eriks...@ohsu.edu wrote:

 Bruse,

 I apologize, I thought you were answering another question that I had
 submitted, which I had foremost in my mind. I will look at mri_label2label
 in more detail now in the proper context.

 Thanks,
 -Jeff

 On 7/13/13 11:31 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Jeff
 mri_label2label should do what you want
 Cheers
 Bruce
 
 On Jul 12, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Jeff Eriksen eriks...@ohsu.edu wrote:
 
  I have the Yeo resting-state fMRI atlases which I downloaded from
 
  http://www.freesurfer.net/fswiki/CorticalParcellation_Yeo2011
 
  They consist of 3 versions, fsaverage being of interest here. The
  fsaverage folder provided includes the typical FS folders corresponding
 a
  recon-all for the average brain for this atlas. I wish to use this high
  resolution atlas to parcellate my individual subjects. I am unclear how
 to
  go about this. I have perused wiki pages on
 
  Annotation files
  FS labels
  Automatic surface labeling process
  Surface registration process
 
  but still do not find a clear path to my goal. Specifically I would like
  to end up with a matching set of surface and annot files, as high of
  resolution as possible, for each of my subjects. Using some specific
  numbers, the Yeo atlas has around 300,000 vertices when combining the
  lh.pial and rh.pial surfaces. The matching annot files I believe are
  lrh.Yeo2011_17Networks_N1000.annot, which together should also have
  300,000 vertices. I suppose what I need to do is align each of my
 subjects
  to this atlas and project the atlas onto each subject to get a new
 surface
  and annot file for that subject, which will have some unique number of
  vertices for each subject.
 
  Please point me to the right set of documentation that will tell me how
 to
  do this. Thanks,
 
  -Jeff
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] FreeSurfer: plot activation foci

2013-07-14 Thread Frédéric Briend




Dear FreeSurfer team,
Firstall, thanks a lot to your great contribution in the neuroscientific and 
the free software world.

I would like to know if is it possible to make a plot activation foci (i.e. 
example by PySurfer: http://pysurfer.github.io/auto_examples/plot_foci.html) by 
FreeSurfer directly, and how can it be done?

Sincerly,

Frédéric Briend
CNRS, Archives Husserl
Ecole Normale Supérieure, Paris, France 
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[Freesurfer] fsfast read_surf bug

2013-07-14 Thread Joseph Dien
I've been trying to use the read_surf.m Matlab function included in the Matlab 
folder of 5.3.0 on a Mac under Matlab 2013a.  

 [vertex_coords, faces] = read_surf('fmcpr.sm5.fsaverage.lh.nii');
Undefined function or variable vertex_coords.

Error in read_surf (line 77)
vertex_coords = reshape(vertex_coords, 3, vnum)' ;

It looks as though the reason is that the magic number evaluates as:

6029568

which does not match either of the numbers it is looking for (which denote 
triangle and quad files).

Does that mean that current surface files have a different format and this 
function needs to be updated accordingly?

Anyway, is there some way I can load surface files into Matlab?

I looked through the fsfast Matlab functions but it wasn't clear to me if one 
of them would do.

The best candidate seemed to be fast_read_curv.m but it yielded too many 
numbers so I'm thinking a curvature file is something different.

Thanks!

Joe



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University of Maryland 

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Re: [Freesurfer] fsfast read_surf bug

2013-07-14 Thread Douglas Greve
Hi Joe, that is an overlay for a surface, not a surface itself. It just 
has a value for each vertex. A surface has geometry and neighborhood 
info. Try using MRIread.m instead.

doug


On 7/14/13 3:57 PM, Joseph Dien wrote:
I've been trying to use the read_surf.m Matlab function included in 
the Matlab folder of 5.3.0 on a Mac under Matlab 2013a.


 [vertex_coords, faces] = read_surf('fmcpr.sm5.fsaverage.lh.nii');
Undefined function or variable vertex_coords.

Error in read_surf (line 77)
vertex_coords = reshape(vertex_coords, 3, vnum)' ;

It looks as though the reason is that the magic number evaluates as:

6029568

which does not match either of the numbers it is looking for (which 
denote triangle and quad files).


Does that mean that current surface files have a different format and 
this function needs to be updated accordingly?


Anyway, is there some way I can load surface files into Matlab?

I looked through the fsfast Matlab functions but it wasn't clear to me 
if one of them would do.


The best candidate seemed to be fast_read_curv.m but it yielded too 
many numbers so I'm thinking a curvature file is something different.


Thanks!

Joe



Joseph Dien,
Senior Research Scientist
University of Maryland

E-mail: jdie...@mac.com mailto:jdie...@mac.com
Phone: 202-297-8117
http://joedien.com//














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