[Freesurfer] fsaverage_sym in xhemi commands

2014-03-13 Thread Markus Gschwind
Dear all,

I have a question concerning the xhemi commands as explained here:

http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi

2.  The command
  surfreg --s $subject --t fsaverage_sym --lh

is absolutely searching for fsaverage_sym in the $SUBJECTS_DIR.

Do I really have to copy the whole fsaverage_sym folder from
$FREESUERFER_HOME/subjects into each subject's directory once again?


Thank you very much!
Markus
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[Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from Qdec

2014-03-13 Thread Dusan Hirjak
Dear Freesurfer Experts, 

 

I did a correlational analysis in qdec and found several significant clusters 
after Monte-Carlo simulation (0.05).
Now, I would like to extract the mean cortical thickness, area and folding 
values (peak maximum) of each study subject above the significant cluster. 

 

I tried to run mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir mc-z.neg.th13.pdf.dat --cache 1,3 
--sim-sign neg

 

However, I got the ERROR: thresh = 1.3 not completely converted

 

What am I doing wrong? Any other ideas? 

 

Is the pdf.dat file the right one to use???

 

Thanks! 

 

DH

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[Freesurfer] Longitudinal stream

2014-03-13 Thread Eduard Vilaplana Martinez
Dear Freesurfer experts,

I would like to perform a longitudinal analysis with freesurfer 5.1 and I have 
some questions regarding the whole processing stream. I have BL and 1Y 
follow-up from all patients (110), and moreover I have 2Y follow-up from only 
some patients (more or less 50). Do you recommend using the 2Y when available 
in the whole stream? Or, on the other hand, it would be better to perform a BL 
and 1Y analysis in the whole sample and then, separately, do a second analysis 
only with those subjects that have 2Y follow-up? My idea is to study rates of 
change (cortical and ventricles, mainly).

I have another more technical question. When running the base (recon-all -base 
templateid -tp tp1id -tp tp2id ... -all), does the order of the time 
points matter? In Reuter et al., 2012 says that all scans are treated the same, 
so I guess it doesn't matter if tp1 is the 1Y and tp2 is the BL. Am I wrong?

Finally, to look at ventricle changes, do you also recommend using the 
longitudinal stream or rather the cross-sectional one? It seems that the 
longitudinal stream is more cortical specific, but maybe I would be wrong...

Thanks 

Best,

Eduard
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Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical Surface

2014-03-13 Thread Douglas N Greve
it is in the 'vol' field
On 03/12/2014 08:54 PM, Xuelong Zhao wrote:
 Hmm, it seems I may have misinterpreted the fields in the matlab 
 structure after using MRIRead

 rsn20_surf = MRIread('rsn20_surf.nii')

 I thought perhaps the data would be in the 'volsize' field?

 rsn20_surf =

srcbext: ''
 analyzehdr: []
   bhdr: []
vol: [4-D double]
   niftihdr: [1x1 struct]
  fspec: 'rsn20_surf.nii'
pwd: '~/rsn_smith09'
 flip_angle: 0
 tr: 1000
 te: 0
 ti: 0
   vox2ras0: [4x4 double]
volsize: [1 139732 1]
 height: 1
  width: 139732
  depth: 1
nframes: 20
vox2ras: [4x4 double]
nvoxels: 139732
  xsize: 1
  ysize: 1
  zsize: 1
x_r: -1
x_a: 0
x_s: 0
y_r: 0
y_a: 1
y_s: 0
z_r: 0
z_a: 0
z_s: 1
c_r: -1
c_a: -17
c_s: 19
   vox2ras1: [4x4 double]
Mdc: [3x3 double]
 volres: [1 1 1]
 tkrvox2ras: [4x4 double]

 
 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:55:23 -0400
 From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: andrewz...@live.com.au
 CC: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical Surface


 You would apply it to the column, row, and slice of a voxel. Note that 
 the volume structure is volume(row,col,slice). But I'm not sure why 
 you need to do this. If you read in the ICA maps after running 
 mri_vol2surf, there will be a value for each vertex, no need to do any 
 mapping

 doug



 On 3/11/14 7:00 PM, Xuelong Zhao wrote:

 Okay, I think I'm getting close to what I want in the matlab
 object. I've successfully imported both the pial surface (using
 read_surf.m) and the ICA components on the surface in mgh format
 using MRIread.m

 I've had a look at the MRIread.m script and it says I can use
 vox2ras1 to convert column, row, and slice to XYZ coordinates.
 Which field of the matlab structure should I apply this to? Im
 guessing its voxels but wanted to make sure, and also I'd have to
 do this for each individual frame? Thanks.

 
 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 23:54:18 -0400
 From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: andrewz...@live.com.au mailto:andrewz...@live.com.au
 CC: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical Surface


 I don't know of anything that will do this (or what a single
 object would mean in this case). If you have the overlay in a
 volume format (eg, mgz), you can use MRIread.m. This gives you a
 value for each vertex, not face, so you'd have to write something
 to assign the value to a face.

 doug



 On 3/10/14 11:27 PM, Xuelong Zhao wrote:

 Should also add that I can import the cortical surface into
 matlab without any issues using read_surf.m what I would like
 to have is the ICA overlay also imported into matlab as
 corresponding colors for each face on the cortical mesh. Thanks.



 
 
 From: andrewz...@live.com.au mailto:andrewz...@live.com.au
 To: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:54:10 +1100
 CC: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical
 Surface

 Regarding matlab:

 Currently, I have in freesurfer the surface extracted via
 recon-all. I also have the overlay from running mri_vol2surf
 on the ICA components.

 I would like to export the pial surface + overlay into matlab
 together as a single object. Is there a matlab script for
 this, or do I need to do some further processing? Thanks.


  Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:25:23 -0400
  From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: andrewz...@live.com.au mailto:andrewz...@live.com.au
  CC: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Resting State Networks on Cortical
 Surface
 
 
  On 03/09/2014 09:12 AM, Xuelong Zhao wrote:
   Hi Doug,
  
   To clarify my previous question:
  
   There is definitely some fuzziness when comparing with the
 mov,
   whereas the target comparison looks very pristine. I was just
   wondering if this is expected. The mov, as 

[Freesurfer] 'patching' the base template with additional runs

2014-03-13 Thread Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya
Dear FS experts,

  I am trying to add a 6th and 7th timepoint to my longitudinal 
analysis that already has a base template from 5 timepoints. I saw an earlier 
response on the mailing list about doing this using a 'patch' script but there 
was no further information on this. Is this script available in FreeSurfer now ?

Thanks
Koushik

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Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from Qdec

2014-03-13 Thread Douglas N Greve
Use 1.3 not 1,3

doug
On 03/13/2014 10:12 AM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer Experts,

 I did a correlational analysis in qdec and found several significant 
 clusters after Monte-Carlo simulation (0.05).
 Now, I would like to extract the mean cortical thickness, area and 
 folding values (peak maximum) of each study subject above the 
 significant cluster.

 I tried to run mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir mc-z.neg.th13.pdf.dat --cache 
 1,3 --sim-sign neg

 However, I got the ERROR: thresh = 1.3 not completely converted

 What am I doing wrong? Any other ideas?

 Is the pdf.dat file the right one to use???

 Thanks!

 DH



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Re: [Freesurfer] fsaverage_sym in xhemi commands

2014-03-13 Thread Douglas N Greve
Just create a symlink, ie,

cd $SUBJECTS_DIR
ln -s $FREESURFER_HOME/fsaverage_sym




On 03/13/2014 09:57 AM, Markus Gschwind wrote:
 Dear all,

 I have a question concerning the xhemi commands as explained here:

 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi

 2.  The command
   surfreg --s $subject --t fsaverage_sym --lh

 is absolutely searching for fsaverage_sym in the $SUBJECTS_DIR.

 Do I really have to copy the whole fsaverage_sym folder from 
 $FREESUERFER_HOME/subjects into each subject's directory once again?


 Thank you very much!
 Markus




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Re: [Freesurfer] Error mri_label2label

2014-03-13 Thread _andreia_
Hi Doug,

Thank you very much! It's working!

Andreia


Quoting Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 Not sure. Try running it with --nohash. It will probably take a lot longer
 doug


 On 03/12/2014 02:45 PM, _andre...@sapo.pt wrote:

 Hello list,

 When running the following command :

 mri_label2label --srcsubject fsaverage --srclabel
 /home/user/visao/Freesurfer/fsaverage/label/lh.BA1.thresh.label
 --trgsubject subjid --trglabel ./lh.BA1.thresh.label --hemi lh
 --regmethod surface


 I get the error

 INFO: found  1014 nlabel points
 Performing mapping from target back to the source label
 *ERROR: srcvtxno = -1  0*
 trgvtxno = 122050, dmin = 1000
 trgregxyz = 0, 0, 0
   This means that a vertex in the target surface could
   not be mapped to a vertex in the source surface
   because the xyz of the target is outside of the
   range of the hash table.


 I have used this command in several subjects and never got this error.
 What went wrong? As far as I'm aware I did all the processing in the
 same way for every subject.

 How can I fix this this?

 Thank you!
 Andreia



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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: converting to fsaverage space

2014-03-13 Thread Barbara Weiland
Hi -I am trying to extract volumes  thickness stats of networks and followed the commands from the post in the subject line to create network .nii files in each subject's space. Based on some other postings, I thought I needed to first move the volumes to surf for each hemisphere, i.e.:mri_vol2surf --src $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX.nii --out $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mgh --srcreg $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2.dat --hemi lhBut this does not seem to create the surf correctly - I am unable to load it. I have also tried to use mri_cor2labels to create labels directly front the .nii files but found that the first column in the label files were all -1 (which I found in a previous posting meant the volumes needed to be moved to surface first as I tried above)??I ultimately want to use mris_aatomical_stats with these labels to output stats.  Any help would be appreciated,thanks,BarbaraBarbara Weiland, Ph.D.Research Asst. ProfessorCU Change LabDept. of Psychology  NeuroscienceUniversity of Colorado Boulderbarbara.weil...@colorado.edu


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Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from Qdec

2014-03-13 Thread Dusan Hirjak
Dear Doug, 

 

I typed 1.3 but it is still not working. 

 

Any other ideas???

 

Thanks for your help. 

 

DH
 

 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:20:57 -0400
 From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from 
 Qdec
 
 Use 1.3 not 1,3
 
 doug
 On 03/13/2014 10:12 AM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer Experts,
 
  I did a correlational analysis in qdec and found several significant 
  clusters after Monte-Carlo simulation (0.05).
  Now, I would like to extract the mean cortical thickness, area and 
  folding values (peak maximum) of each study subject above the 
  significant cluster.
 
  I tried to run mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir mc-z.neg.th13.pdf.dat --cache 
  1,3 --sim-sign neg
 
  However, I got the ERROR: thresh = 1.3 not completely converted
 
  What am I doing wrong? Any other ideas?
 
  Is the pdf.dat file the right one to use???
 
  Thanks!
 
  DH
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Combining scans with different scanning parameters

2014-03-13 Thread Ashley Shurick
Hi Bruce (and others),

We can balance the numbers to allow the same number in each configuration.
But just to clarify, are you saying we should do, for example, 10 patient
scan 1, 10 patient scan 2, 10 patient scan 3, and 10 HC scan 1, 10 HC scan
2, 10 HC scan 3, to perfectly balance everything out? Or do we just need to
have X patient and X HC in scan 1, Y patient and Y HC with scan 2, and Z
patient and Z HC with scanning parameter 3?

Thank you for your assistance.

Ashley


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Ashley

 that is probably trouble unless your groups are perfectly balanced across
 the datasets (that is, the same # in each group were scanned on each
 configuration).

 cheers
 Bruce



 On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, Ashley Shurick wrote:

  Hi,
 I'm interested in comparing CT differences between 2 different groups, and
 in order to increase my sample size I'm contemplating combining 3 datasets
 with different scanning parameters.

 Some scans were collected with a 3T1 with fmri head coil, while others
 were
 collected with a 3T2 magnet with 8 channel head coil. The scans also
 differ
 in FOV (25.6 vs 22cm) and resolution.

 Thank you in advance for your support.

 Ashley

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Re: [Freesurfer] Combining scans with different scanning parameters

2014-03-13 Thread Bruce Fischl
1 would be better but 2 would be sufficient as long as X, Y and Z don't 
vary too much

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Ashley Shurick wrote:


Hi Bruce (and others),
We can balance the numbers to allow the same number in each configuration.
But just to clarify, are you saying we should do, for example, 10 patient
scan 1, 10 patient scan 2, 10 patient scan 3, and 10 HC scan 1, 10 HC scan
2, 10 HC scan 3, to perfectly balance everything out? Or do we just need to
have X patient and X HC in scan 1, Y patient and Y HC with scan 2, and Z
patient and Z HC with scanning parameter 3?

Thank you for your assistance.

Ashley


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
wrote:
  Hi Ashley

  that is probably trouble unless your groups are perfectly
  balanced across the datasets (that is, the same # in each group
  were scanned on each configuration).

  cheers
  Bruce


  On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, Ashley Shurick wrote:

  Hi,
  I'm interested in comparing CT differences between 2
  different groups, and
  in order to increase my sample size I'm contemplating
  combining 3 datasets
  with different scanning parameters. 
   
  Some scans were collected with a 3T1 with fmri head coil,
  while others were
  collected with a 3T2 magnet with 8 channel head coil. The
  scans also differ
  in FOV (25.6 vs 22cm) and resolution.

  Thank you in advance for your support.

  Ashley

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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: converting to fsaverage space

2014-03-13 Thread Douglas N Greve

Can you give more details? What is LECN_...nii? Where did it come from? 
What space is it in? MNI152 I assume? What does it mean you can't load 
it? Load it with what? What is your command line?
doug





On 03/13/2014 01:36 PM, Barbara Weiland wrote:
 Hi -

 I am trying to extract volumes  thickness stats of networks and 
 followed the commands from the post in the subject line to create 
 network .nii files in each subject's space.  Based on some other 
 postings, I thought I needed to first move the volumes to surf for 
 each hemisphere, i.e.:

 mri_vol2surf --src $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX.nii

 --out $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mgh

 --srcreg $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2.dat --hemi lh


 But this does not seem to create the surf correctly - I am unable to load it.
 I have also tried to use mri_cor2labels to create labels directly front the 
 .nii files but found that the first column in the label files were all -1 
 (which I found in a previous posting meant the volumes needed to be moved to 
 surface first as I tried above)??
 I ultimately want to use mris_aatomical_stats with these labels to output 
 stats.  Any help would be appreciated,
 thanks,
 Barbara

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Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from Qdec

2014-03-13 Thread Douglas N Greve
are you puttting it in quotes? If so, don't
doug

On 03/13/2014 01:46 PM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
 Dear Doug,

 I typed 1.3 but it is still not working.

 Any other ideas???

 Thanks for your help.

 DH

  Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:20:57 -0400
  From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding 
 values from Qdec
 
  Use 1.3 not 1,3
 
  doug
  On 03/13/2014 10:12 AM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
   Dear Freesurfer Experts,
  
   I did a correlational analysis in qdec and found several significant
   clusters after Monte-Carlo simulation (0.05).
   Now, I would like to extract the mean cortical thickness, area and
   folding values (peak maximum) of each study subject above the
   significant cluster.
  
   I tried to run mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir mc-z.neg.th13.pdf.dat --cache
   1,3 --sim-sign neg
  
   However, I got the ERROR: thresh = 1.3 not completely converted
  
   What am I doing wrong? Any other ideas?
  
   Is the pdf.dat file the right one to use???
  
   Thanks!
  
   DH
  
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon

2014-03-13 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


How is the format different? Is it in 3 rows instead of 3 columns? If so, 
it should be straightforward to convert it yourself from 3 rows to 3 
columns.


On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Gennan Chen wrote:


Hi! All,

Is there an utility to extract bvals and bvecs from GE’s DTI dicom files
into the format dt_recon can use? I try to run dt_recon as it is but it did
not pick up those values. Those files are from ADNI. 

Gen


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Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon

2014-03-13 Thread Gennan Chen
Anastasia,

The thing not clear from me is the format for those files. I did not see an 
example anywhere in the wiki or in the distribution.  And I am downing tutorial 
data now. Hope it is there. BTW, do you have an example? I know how to get 
those from private dicom tags.

Gen

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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon


How is the format different? Is it in 3 rows instead of 3 columns? If so, it 
should be straightforward to convert it yourself from 3 rows to 3 columns.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Gennan Chen wrote:

 Hi! All,

 Is there an utility to extract bvals and bvecs from GE’s DTI dicom
 files into the format dt_recon can use? I try to run dt_recon as it is
 but it did not pick up those values. Those files are from ADNI.

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Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Watson

dcm2nii should give you bvecs and bvals
If you just want to transpose the file, I wrote a script to do it 
(attached).


On 03/13/2014 04:50 PM, Gennan Chen wrote:

Anastasia,

The thing not clear from me is the format for those files. I did not see an 
example anywhere in the wiki or in the distribution.  And I am downing tutorial 
data now. Hope it is there. BTW, do you have an example? I know how to get 
those from private dicom tags.

Gen

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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:37 PM
To: Gennan Chen
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon


How is the format different? Is it in 3 rows instead of 3 columns? If so, it 
should be straightforward to convert it yourself from 3 rows to 3 columns.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Gennan Chen wrote:


Hi! All,

Is there an utility to extract bvals and bvecs from GE’s DTI dicom
files into the format dt_recon can use? I try to run dt_recon as it is
but it did not pick up those values. Those files are from ADNI.

Gen

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Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon

2014-03-13 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke
Attached are examples of the bvals.dat and bvecs.dat files extracted from 
siemens dicoms by dt_recon.  This was for a 60 dir DTI scan w/ 10 b0s.


On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Chris Watson wrote:


dcm2nii should give you bvecs and bvals
If you just want to transpose the file, I wrote a script to do it (attached).

On 03/13/2014 04:50 PM, Gennan Chen wrote:

Anastasia,

The thing not clear from me is the format for those files. I did not see an 
example anywhere in t
he wiki or in the distribution.  And I am downing tutorial data now. Hope it is 
there. BTW, do yo
u have an example? I know how to get those from private dicom tags.

Gen

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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:37 PM
To: Gennan Chen
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon


How is the format different? Is it in 3 rows instead of 3 columns? If so, it 
should be straightfo
rward to convert it yourself from 3 rows to 3 columns.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Gennan Chen wrote:

Hi! All,

Is there an utility to extract bvals and bvecs from GE’s DTI dicom
files into the format dt_recon can use? I try to run dt_recon as it is
but it did not pick up those values. Those files are from ADNI.

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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: converting to fsaverage space

2014-03-13 Thread Douglas N Greve

Hi Barbara, please post to the list. Thanks! the vol2surf command output 
should be .mgh or .mgz, not .mg (or maybe that is just a typo in the 
email). If it is, then you should load the mgh file as an overlay, not 
as a surface, eg

tksurfer [subj] lh inflated -overlay file.mgh -fminmax .5 1000

setting the min threshold to .5 assures that you can see the ROI

doug


On 03/13/2014 05:10 PM, Barbara Weiland wrote:
 Hi -

 Sorry to not have been clearer.

 I have /functional ROIs defined by the Greicius 
 lab// (http://findlab.stanford.edu/functional_ROIs.html) just as in 
 this post to the Freesurfer list from //Mon Dec 2 15:22:08 EST 2013:/
 /
 /
 Doug, Thank you for your very helpful suggestion. Indeed, doing so 
 made it so I could quickly take any parts (or all) of each Greicius 
 network and put them in individual subject space. In case this may 
 help anyone else, the final series of commands were (in this case, 
 for the whole anterior salience network): *mni152reg --s [subj]* 
 mri_label2vol *--seg anterior_Salience.nii.gz \* --reg 
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2mm.dat \ --invertmtx 
 --o anterior_Salience_[subj].nii.gz \ --temp 
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/orig.mgz Cheers, Paul

 These ROIs were originally in MNI space and I used the commands listed 
 above from Paul to move them to subject space first creating the 
 reg.mni152.2mm.dat for each subject.  LECN….nii is one of these 
 network ROIs.  I can see this ROI using free view and it looks 
 correct.  What I want is to extract volume and thickness for this ROI. 
  As outlined below,I thought I needed to first convert this to a 
 surface and tried:

 mri_vol2surf --src $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX.nii --out 
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mg --srcreg 
 $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2.dat --hemi lh


 I tried to look at the output (LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mg) by using 
 tksurfer [subj] lh inflated and then load the it from the GUI onto the 
 inflated surface -- this says that the 
 file (LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mg) has 0 vertices!
 Probably trying to use a scalar data file as a surface!

 Do I need to move the  LECN….nii to be a surface or should I just be 
 able to make a label from it? I assumed I need the ROI information to 
 be a label to use mris_anatomical_stats?
 Thank you,
 Barbara


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 Research Asst. Professor
 CU Change Lab
 Dept. of Psychology  Neuroscience
 University of Colorado Boulder
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 On Mar 13, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 Can you give more details? What is LECN_...nii? Where did it come from?
 What space is it in? MNI152 I assume? What does it mean you can't load
 it? Load it with what? What is your command line?
 doug





 On 03/13/2014 01:36 PM, Barbara Weiland wrote:
 Hi -

 I am trying to extract volumes  thickness stats of networks and
 followed the commands from the post in the subject line to create
 network .nii files in each subject's space.  Based on some other
 postings, I thought I needed to first move the volumes to surf for
 each hemisphere, i.e.:

 mri_vol2surf --src $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX.nii

 --out $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mgh

 --srcreg $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2.dat --hemi lh


 But this does not seem to create the surf correctly - I am unable to 
 load it.
 I have also tried to use mri_cor2labels to create labels directly 
 front the .nii files but found that the first column in the label 
 files were all -1 (which I found in a previous posting meant the 
 volumes needed to be moved to surface first as I tried above)??
 I ultimately want to use mris_aatomical_stats with these labels to 
 output stats.  Any help would be appreciated,
 thanks,
 Barbara

 Barbara Weiland, Ph.D.
 Research Asst. Professor
 CU Change Lab
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 University of Colorado Boulder
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Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon

2014-03-13 Thread Gennan Chen
Thxs for all the help.


On March 13, 2014 at 2:19:16 PM, Louis Nicholas Vinke 
(vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu) wrote:

Attached are examples of the bvals.dat and bvecs.dat files extracted from
siemens dicoms by dt_recon. This was for a 60 dir DTI scan w/ 10 b0s.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Chris Watson wrote:

 dcm2nii should give you bvecs and bvals
 If you just want to transpose the file, I wrote a script to do it (attached).

 On 03/13/2014 04:50 PM, Gennan Chen wrote:

 Anastasia,

 The thing not clear from me is the format for those files. I did not see an 
 example anywhere in t
 he wiki or in the distribution. And I am downing tutorial data now. Hope it 
 is there. BTW, do yo
 u have an example? I know how to get those from private dicom tags.

 Gen

 -Original Message-
 From: Anastasia Yendiki [mailto:ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:37 PM
 To: Gennan Chen
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] bvals and bvecs for dt_recon


 How is the format different? Is it in 3 rows instead of 3 columns? If so, it 
 should be straightfo
 rward to convert it yourself from 3 rows to 3 columns.

 On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Gennan Chen wrote:

 Hi! All,

 Is there an utility to extract bvals and bvecs from GE’s DTI dicom
 files into the format dt_recon can use? I try to run dt_recon as it is
 but it did not pick up those values. Those files are from ADNI.

 Gen

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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: converting to fsaverage space

2014-03-13 Thread Barbara Weiland
Hi Doug -Using the overlay threshold flags, I see that the .mgh (yes, the .mg was a cut/paste typo) is in the occipital region and should be frontal, temporal and parietal regions. So, I must be doing something wrong in the mri_vol2surf command: mri_vol2surf --src $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX.nii --out $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mgh --srcreg $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2.dat --hemi lhPlus - as the original ROI encompasses regions in both hemispheres (i.e., the left executive network has a region in the right cerebellum), I thought I would need to repeat this command with --hemi rh? I assumed I would have to runmris_aatomical_stats on each hemisphere -- after I have labels for the ROI for each hemisphere?Thanks,BarbaraThe vol2surf command outputshould be .mgh or .mgz, not .mg (or maybe that is just a typo in theemail). If it is, then you should load the mgh file as an overlay, notas a surface, egtksurfer [subj] lh inflated -overlay file.mgh -fminmax .5 1000setting the min threshold to .5 assures that you can see the ROIdougOn 03/13/2014 05:10 PM, Barbara Weiland wrote:Hi -Sorry to not have been clearer.I have /functional ROIs defined by the Greiciuslab// (http://findlab.stanford.edu/functional_ROIs.html) just as inthis post to the Freesurfer list from //Mon Dec 2 15:22:08 EST 2013:///Doug, Thank you for your very helpful suggestion. Indeed, doing somade it so I could quickly take any parts (or all) of each Greiciusnetwork and put them in individual subject space. In case this mayhelp anyone else, the final series of commands were (in this case,for the whole anterior salience network): *mni152reg --s [subj]*mri_label2vol *--seg anterior_Salience.nii.gz \* --reg$SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2mm.dat \ --invertmtx--o anterior_Salience_[subj].nii.gz \ --temp$SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/orig.mgz Cheers, PaulThese ROIs were originally in MNI space and I used the commands listedabove from Paul to move them to subject space first creating thereg.mni152.2mm.dat for each subject. LECN….nii is one of thesenetwork ROIs. I can see this ROI using free view and it lookscorrect. What I want is to extract volume and thickness for this ROI.As outlined below,I thought I needed to first convert this to asurface and tried:mri_vol2surf --src $SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX.nii --out$SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/label/LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mg --srcreg$SUBJECTS_DIR/[subj]/mri/transforms/reg.mni152.2.dat --hemi lhI tried to look at the output (LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mg) by usingtksurfer [subj] lh inflated and then load the it from the GUI onto theinflated surface -- this says that thefile (LECN_subjXXX_lh_surf.mg) "has 0 vertices!Probably trying to use a scalar data file as a surface!"Do I need to move the LECN….nii to be a surface or should I just beable to make a label from it? I assumed I need the ROI information tobe a label to use mris_anatomical_stats?Thank you,BarbaraBarbara Weiland, Ph.D.Research Asst. ProfessorCU Change LabDept. of Psychology  NeuroscienceUniversity of Colorado Boulderbarbara.weil...@colorado.edu


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Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from Qdec

2014-03-13 Thread Dusan Hirjak
Dear Doug, 
no, I did not put it in quotes. I just typed the mentioned command, but it is 
still not working. I can not find the file comprising the thickness, area or 
folding values at peak maxima after Monte Carlo simulation. Sorry for asking so 
many questions, but it is still not working. What should I do next?
Best regards, 
DH

 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:15:23 -0400
 From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: dusanhir...@hotmail.com; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from 
 Qdec
 
 are you puttting it in quotes? If so, don't
 doug
 
 On 03/13/2014 01:46 PM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
  Dear Doug,
 
  I typed 1.3 but it is still not working.
 
  Any other ideas???
 
  Thanks for your help.
 
  DH
 
   Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:20:57 -0400
   From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding 
  values from Qdec
  
   Use 1.3 not 1,3
  
   doug
   On 03/13/2014 10:12 AM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
Dear Freesurfer Experts,
   
I did a correlational analysis in qdec and found several significant
clusters after Monte-Carlo simulation (0.05).
Now, I would like to extract the mean cortical thickness, area and
folding values (peak maximum) of each study subject above the
significant cluster.
   
I tried to run mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir mc-z.neg.th13.pdf.dat --cache
1,3 --sim-sign neg
   
However, I got the ERROR: thresh = 1.3 not completely converted
   
What am I doing wrong? Any other ideas?
   
Is the pdf.dat file the right one to use???
   
Thanks!
   
DH
   
   
   
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Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values from Qdec

2014-03-13 Thread dgw
I think Doug meant the 1.3. Therefore the line should be something like:

mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir mc-z.neg.th13.pdf.dat --cache 1.3 --sim-sign neg

What exactly did you type? (try separating it with lines instead of quotes)

HTH,
D
On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:

 Dear Doug, 
 
 no, I did not put it in quotes. I just typed the mentioned command, but it is 
 still not working. 
 I can not find the file comprising the thickness, area or folding values at 
 peak maxima after Monte Carlo simulation. 
 Sorry for asking so many questions, but it is still not working. 
 What should I do next?
 
 Best regards, 
 
 DH
 
  Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:15:23 -0400
  From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: dusanhir...@hotmail.com; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding values 
  from Qdec
  
  are you puttting it in quotes? If so, don't
  doug
  
  On 03/13/2014 01:46 PM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
   Dear Doug,
  
   I typed 1.3 but it is still not working.
  
   Any other ideas???
  
   Thanks for your help.
  
   DH
  
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:20:57 -0400
From: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting thickness, area and folding 
   values from Qdec
   
Use 1.3 not 1,3
   
doug
On 03/13/2014 10:12 AM, Dusan Hirjak wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer Experts,

 I did a correlational analysis in qdec and found several significant
 clusters after Monte-Carlo simulation (0.05).
 Now, I would like to extract the mean cortical thickness, area and
 folding values (peak maximum) of each study subject above the
 significant cluster.

 I tried to run mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir mc-z.neg.th13.pdf.dat --cache
 1,3 --sim-sign neg

 However, I got the ERROR: thresh = 1.3 not completely converted

 What am I doing wrong? Any other ideas?

 Is the pdf.dat file the right one to use???

 Thanks!

 DH



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Re: [Freesurfer] Running Tracula on a cluster

2014-03-13 Thread ebelleau
Hello,

I recently modified my script so that it would work on a cluster. I had been 
running it successfully locally but am now having some trouble on the cluster. 
The only thing I changed in the dmrirc script were some pathways. However, I 
keep getting an error of must specify as many dicoms as subjects. I did not 
change any dicom numbers in this once successfully working script.

Attached is my script. Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Emily

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From: ebell...@uwm.edu
To: Anastasia Yendiki ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:25:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Running Tracula on a cluster

Hi Anastasia,

We use SLURM.  

I have not personally yet run bedpost off of the cluster, but one of my 
colleagues was able to run his data off of our cluster ( the whole pathway 
including bedpost) without any problem. However he (Jon Wieser) made an 
individual dmrirc configuration file script for every subject and then made 
sure each one got assigned to a different processor in another script. 

Thanks,

Emily

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To: ebell...@uwm.edu
Cc: freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:02:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Running Tracula on a cluster


Hi Emily - Which job management system does your cluster run on? Have you 
ever tried to run any of the FSL parallelized programs, like bedpostx, on 
your cluster?

a.y

On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, ebell...@uwm.edu wrote:


 Hello,

 I plan on running a batch of subjects (around 80) on a computer cluster.

 I am assuming that in the dmrirc configuration file, I can enter all of the 
 subjects in subjlist?

 However, do I have to add something to it to make sure that each subject gets 
 sent to a different processor on the cluster?

 I have attached my dmrirc file as well as the files needed for it to run on 
 the cluster.

 Thanks,

 Emily


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Re: [Freesurfer] Running Tracula on a cluster

2014-03-13 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Hi Emily - Replace sub238/DTI/i*.MRDC.1 with a single file name.

a.y

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, ebell...@uwm.edu wrote:

 Hello,

 I recently modified my script so that it would work on a cluster. I had been 
 running it successfully locally but am now having some trouble on the 
 cluster. The only thing I changed in the dmrirc script were some pathways. 
 However, I keep getting an error of must specify as many dicoms as subjects. 
 I did not change any dicom numbers in this once successfully working script.

 Attached is my script. Any thoughts?

 Thanks,

 Emily

 - Original Message -
 From: ebell...@uwm.edu
 To: Anastasia Yendiki ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:25:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Running Tracula on a cluster

 Hi Anastasia,

 We use SLURM.

 I have not personally yet run bedpost off of the cluster, but one of my 
 colleagues was able to run his data off of our cluster ( the whole pathway 
 including bedpost) without any problem. However he (Jon Wieser) made an 
 individual dmrirc configuration file script for every subject and then made 
 sure each one got assigned to a different processor in another script.

 Thanks,

 Emily

 - Original Message -
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 To: ebell...@uwm.edu
 Cc: freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:02:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Running Tracula on a cluster


 Hi Emily - Which job management system does your cluster run on? Have you
 ever tried to run any of the FSL parallelized programs, like bedpostx, on
 your cluster?

 a.y

 On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, ebell...@uwm.edu wrote:


 Hello,

 I plan on running a batch of subjects (around 80) on a computer cluster.

 I am assuming that in the dmrirc configuration file, I can enter all of the 
 subjects in subjlist?

 However, do I have to add something to it to make sure that each subject 
 gets sent to a different processor on the cluster?

 I have attached my dmrirc file as well as the files needed for it to run on 
 the cluster.

 Thanks,

 Emily


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[Freesurfer] freeview bug

2014-03-13 Thread Jeff Stevenson
hi freesurfer folks, just had a nasty bug crash my whole mac workstation. 
yikes! i loaded lh and rh pial surfaces into freeview and went to assign
annotation files to each and when i did i inadvertantly (aka randomly) selected 
the wrong file in labels dir- a .csv file i believe - instead of throwing an 
error dialogue with an appropriately snarky message it brought my whole system 
down, protected memory and all. never seen that before. after automatic reboot 
all was fine but this one is nasty. all current work was lost. hw was std mac 
pro osx 10.7.5, 96 GB mem.

jeff


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