Re: [Freesurfer] Output Time

2014-08-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Isaiah

sorry but no, there is no easy way to shorten the processing time except 
to use multiple processors and open MP

cheers
Bruce

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Isaiah C. Smith 
wrote:

> Hello Experts,
>
> I was wondering if there is a way to short time of recon-all; I see that by 
> using some of the parameters, one can get rid of different outputs. For mne 
> forward models and inverses is there a recommended list of necessary and 
> unnecessary outputs?
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] problems with tracula pre-processing (bvecs)

2014-08-28 Thread Barbara Kreilkamp

Dear Michele,

I cannot find anything wrong with your bvec and bval files.
Seeing as you had an errormessage related to the dwi (the one about the 
dwi_frame.nii.gz): Did you check that your dwi data have the same amount 
of volumes as entries in bvec and bval?


Good luck,
Barbara


On 28/08/2014 22:47, Michele Cavallari wrote:

Hi,
I'm having some problems with the first command of the tracula pipeline.
I am using FreeSurfer 5.3 on a mac (OS 10.9).
The problem seems to be related to the bvecs file. I received the following
error message:
niiRead(): error opening file /path/to/dmri/dwi_frame.nii.gz

I read some threads available on your website, but couldn't figured out a
solution yet. I tried to organize the bvecs in columns, as opposed to the
original configuration in rows. By doing that and re-launching the
pre-processing command I obtained a differente error message:
Error: bvecs and bvals don't have the same number of entries

The original bvals and bvecs files seem to have the same numbers of entries
to me. But the bvecs file produced by the processing - both the bvecs.norot
and the bvecs files in the dmri folder - don't have all the information of
the vectors.

I am enclosing a zip folder with attachments:
1) original bvecs and bvals files organized in rows and columns
2) bvecs and bvals files generated by tracula
3) error logs

Let me know if you need any other information.
Thanks in advance for your help.


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[Freesurfer] Output Time

2014-08-28 Thread Isaiah C. Smith
Hello Experts,

I was wondering if there is a way to short time of recon-all; I see that by 
using some of the parameters, one can get rid of different outputs. For mne 
forward models and inverses is there a recommended list of necessary and 
unnecessary outputs?

Isaiah Smith
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Re: [Freesurfer] Creating ROI

2014-08-28 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Juan

probably the easiest thing to do is to create an empty volume (in e.g. 
freeview) with the same geometry as one of our conformed ones, Then run 
through every voxel in matlab and if its Euclidean distance to your 
specified center is less than 2.5cm set it to 1, otherwise set it to 0.


cheers
Bruce
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Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Diaz Rodriguez, Juan wrote:



I am trying to create a spherical ROI mask in the form of a volume file with
2.5 cm radius. I also have to specify the center of the ROI location. What
is the best way to accomplish this? 
I intend to use this to extract freesurfer cortical thickness values for a
region-of-interest (ROI) defined in volume space as described
in https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/VolumeRoiCorticalThickness

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[Freesurfer] Creating ROI

2014-08-28 Thread Diaz Rodriguez, Juan
I am trying to create a spherical ROI mask in the form of a volume file with 
2.5 cm radius. I also have to specify the center of the ROI location. What is 
the best way to accomplish this?

I intend to use this to extract freesurfer cortical thickness values for a 
region-of-interest (ROI) defined in volume space as described in 
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/VolumeRoiCorticalThickness
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Re: [Freesurfer] success and failure of wm surfaces in (almost) identical structural image

2014-08-28 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Vincent

I would say yes. If the skull stripping leaves dura in one image and not 
in the other, then that could cause big differences as the surface 
deformation grabs it when it is present.


cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Vincent 
Beliveau wrote:




I've attached ?h.orig.nofix for both recon with and without wm error. They
are similar to ?h.orig in the sense that the one from the recon with wm
error misclassifies part of dura as wm. Interestingly when looking at
?h.orig.nofix from the recon with error overlayed on brain.finalsurfs.mgz of
the recon without error I can see a few voxels in the misclassified dura are
removed from brain.finalsurfs, although not all. Could this small difference
explain why we see the wm error in one case and not the other?

On 26.08.2014 20:24, Douglas N Greve wrote:

how about the ?h.orig.nofix

On 08/26/2014 10:45 AM, Vincent Beliveau wrote:
Dear Sebastian, Attached is the *.orig for both
recon (green being the one with wm error and red
being the one with error). Unfortunately they are
not identical; a section of the dura is
misclassified as wm in the red delineation. As
mentionned before, both orig.mgz are numerically
identical in that area. As I also mentionned before,
the recon were ran on the same machine, same os,
same binaries. You expressed some confusion as to
what were trying to achieve. We want to figure out
why, given numerically almost identical inputs,
Freesurfer correctly delineates wm in one case but
fails in the other. Unfortunately this type of error
appears to be systematic in some of our data.
Vincent. On 26.08.2014 16:22, Sebastian Moeller
wrote:
  Hi Vincent hi Melanie, please show us
  the *.orig surfaces on the critical
  slice. I predict that these will be
  identical, If so you can ignore
  everything except brain.finalsurfs.mgz.
  Are the two versions of this file
  identical around the area of
  mis-classified tissue? I predict that
  there will be a slight difference. Also
  if you take Vincent’s
  brain.finalsurf.mgz and put this into
  Melanie’s recon and redo the generation
  of the wm surfaces I predict that now
  Melinie’s version will show the same
  problem. On Aug 26, 2014, at 16:08 ,
  Melanie Ganz
  >
  wrote:
Hi Sebastian, I'm afraid
that the problem is slightly
more complicated. The inputs
to recon-all are almost
numerically identical (to
the 4th decimal); when
converted to orig.mgz, all
voxels which are not
identical (about only 700 of
all the 1677216 voxels) vary
only by 1 due to rounding.
Their distribution is sparse
and do not overlap with the
white matter errors. Can
such a small source of
variation give this kind of
difference? Ok, Freesurfer
uses some random
initialization, however as
far as I know the seed is
not random and set to 1234.
We have looked at all the
outputs created before
wm.mgz

(orig,nu,T1,brainmask,norm,nu_noneck,aseg,brain,wm,filled)
and the only one showing a
differences overlapping the
wm errors is filled.mgz;

  I think the filled.mgz is changed during
  the generation of the wm surfaces (at
  least temporarily)...
in all the other images the
differences are minor.

  Are you running the analyses on exactly
  the same machine and get different
  results or are you using two “identical”
  computers? I ask as I think there is a
  paper about the reproducibility of
  freesurfer 
reconstructions(http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0038234
  ) with different freesurfer versions or
  different hardware/operating systems
  that might explain a bit of systematic
  variance. But I guess I still do

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed surface to volume rendering

2014-08-28 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Matt

you might want to email Matti about this. I think that you can, but he 
might know the details


cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Sherwood, Matt wrote:



Freesurfer,

    We have scans that have recon-all completed. Following
recon-all, we completed watershed (under the MNE toolbox) to extract skull
and scalp from the T1 scans. The outputs of this algorithm are outer brain,
inner skull, outer skull and outer scalp surfaces. We are particularly
interested in these volumes for our study. Is there a way to convert these
surface to volumes representative of CSF (layer between brain/skull), skull
(inner to outer skull surface) and skin (outer skull to outer scalp)?

 

Matthew Sherwood
Medical Research Engineer

 

Wright State Research Institute
4035 Colonel Glenn Hwy.

Dayton, OH 45431

 

PH: 937.705.1025

FAX: 937.705.1095

EMAIL: matt.sherw...@wright.edu

 


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[Freesurfer] mri_preproc

2014-08-28 Thread shinjini
Hi,

I couldn't find the documentation for mri_preproc. I know that roughly it
resamples multiple subjects' brain images into the same space and then
concatenates the vertices, but I want to know details like:

Exactly how are the brains resampled? What is the procedure beyond the
Talairach affine and spherical registration steps? Individual brain images
have different numbers of vertices. Which vertices are chosen overall? How
are they chosen? How is correspondence between a single vertex location
across all the images established?

Is the finite element approximation and vertex selection procedures
invariant? Do they yield the same set and location of vertices despite
minor variations? Under what conditions are they invariant?

After the vertices are obtained how are they concatenated? Are they listed
in a particular order and is this order the same for all the brains? How
is the order determined?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
~Jen

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Re: [Freesurfer] freesurfer version vs cvs version

2014-08-28 Thread Joel R Pieper
Thanks. I see that the older ones were done on freesurfer 3.0.2. I am assuming 
there are not many differences between the segmentation process between 3.0.2 
and 3.0.3 so I downloaded 3.0.3 because 3.0.2 is no longer available. I set 
freesurfer_3.0.3 as the default version and started a recon-all for one of my 
subjects but it gave me the following error:

#@# Skull Stripping Wed Aug 27 15:14:38 PDT 2014
/home/mdiwakar/subjects/20039/mri
 mri_watershed T1.mgz brainmask.auto.mgz
mri_watershed: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Linux sequoia 2.6.18-164.el5 #1 SMP Thu Sep 3 03:28:30 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
recon-all exited with ERRORS at Wed Aug 27 15:14:38 PDT 2014

Yum gave me an rpm that is compatible with this missing library and I installed 
it but recon-all is still throwing the same error. Any ideas what the problem 
could be?

Joel

From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Nick Schmansky, MGH 
[ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
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To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] freesurfer version vs cvs version

Joel,

The 'recon-all.log' file in the 'scripts' directory of the subject
should have the version of freesurfer used.  Also, the file
'build-stamp.txt' in that same directory will show the version used.

N,


On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 18:31 +, Joel R Pieper wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have 80 subjects' MRIs that were segmented in 2009 with a version of
> freesurfer that included this (cvs_version $Id: mri_segstats.c,v
> 1.11.2.5 2006/04/13 18:57:07 nicks Exp $) in the aseg.stats output.
> The other 19 of my subjects segmented in 2013 display this
> (cvs_version $Id: mri_segstats.c,v 1.33.2.5 2009/02/11 22:38:51 nicks
> Exp $) in the output. I think this latest version the 19 subjects were
> run on is freesurfer 4.4.0 but I'm not sure which freesurfer version
> the older segmentations were run on. The volumes I am looking at are
> significantly different between the subjects segmented in 2009 and
> those segmented in 2013. I would like to remove any bias in my data
> due to different software versions. Is there a way to know which
> freesurfer version output the older cvs_version so I can download that
> and resegment my 19 subjects to remove version bias? This would be
> much quicker than running all 100 subjects on the newest freesurfer
> version.
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all -openmp N question

2014-08-28 Thread Krieger, Donald N.
Thanks, Zeke.

Regards,
 
Don
 
Don Krieger, Ph.D.
Department of Neurological Surgery
University of Pittsburgh
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> -Original Message-
> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu [mailto:freesurfer-
> boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Z K
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all -openmp N question
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> Support of openmp is determined by the compiler used to build the code.
> gcc4.2 and greater support openmp.
> 
> So the centos6 build does support the openmp flag but the centos4 and
> centos4_x86_64 version of freesurfer do NOT. We do not yet build on
> centos7 but once we do it surely will support openmp.
> 
> -Zeke
> 
> On 08/28/2014 09:14 AM, Krieger, Donald N. wrote:
> > The documentation for the 5.2.0 release (2Mar2013) states that -openmp
> > works for the CentOS 6 distribution only.
> >
> > Is this still the case?
> >
> > Or does it work for CentOS 7 ?   any other Linux version ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Don
> >
> > Don Krieger, Ph.D.
> >
> > Department of Neurological Surgery
> >
> > Universityof Pittsburgh
> >
> > (412)648-9654 Office
> >
> > (412)521-4431 Cell/Text
> >
> >
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all -openmp N question

2014-08-28 Thread Z K
Hi Don,

Support of openmp is determined by the compiler used to build the code. 
gcc4.2 and greater support openmp.

So the centos6 build does support the openmp flag but the centos4 and 
centos4_x86_64 version of freesurfer do NOT. We do not yet build on 
centos7 but once we do it surely will support openmp.

-Zeke

On 08/28/2014 09:14 AM, Krieger, Donald N. wrote:
> The documentation for the 5.2.0 release (2Mar2013) states that –openmp
> works for the CentOS 6 distribution only.
>
> Is this still the case?
>
> Or does it work for CentOS 7 ?   any other Linux version ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Don
>
> Don Krieger, Ph.D.
>
> Department of Neurological Surgery
>
> Universityof Pittsburgh
>
> (412)648-9654 Office
>
> (412)521-4431 Cell/Text
>
>
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[Freesurfer] Research Assistant Position at the University of Washington

2014-08-28 Thread McLaughlin, Katie
Research Assistant Position
Integrated Brain Imaging Center
University of Washington

An experienced, independent, and organized individual is sought for a full-time 
Research Coordinator position working with Natalia Kleinhans, Ph.D., and Katie 
McLaughlin, Ph.D., at the Integrated Brain Imaging Center at the University of 
Washington.  The individual in this position would assist with data collection 
and data processing for two neuroimaging studies of children.

Principal duties include: 1) assisting with the administration and support of 
research projects and activities, including participant recruitment, 
development of surveys and flyers, and programming fMRI tasks; 2) assisting in 
data collection through active interaction with child participants, including 
telephone screening interviews, in-person interviews, and fMRI data 
acquisition; and 3) conducting pre-processing and analysis of MRI, fMRI, DTI, 
and MRS data. Ability to work in command line operating systems (Linux) and 
perform basic shell scripting is required. Previous research or clinical 
experience with children and experience with other programming languages (e.g., 
python) is preferred.

This position would be an excellent fit for applicants interested in obtaining 
doctoral training in cognitive neuroscience, clinical psychology, or 
developmental psychology.

To find more information and apply, go to the following website: 
https://uwhires.admin.washington.edu/eng/candidates/default.cfm?szLocationID=88
Enter req # 111826
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[Freesurfer] Research Assistant Position at the University of Washington

2014-08-28 Thread McLaughlin, Katie
Research Assistant Position
Integrated Brain Imaging Center
University of Washington

An experienced, independent, and organized individual is sought for a full-time 
Research Coordinator position working with Natalia Kleinhans, Ph.D., and Katie 
McLaughlin, Ph.D., at the Integrated Brain Imaging Center at the University of 
Washington.  The individual in this position would assist with data collection 
and data processing for two neuroimaging studies of children.

Principal duties include: 1) assisting with the administration and support of 
research projects and activities, including participant recruitment, 
development of surveys and flyers, and programming fMRI tasks; 2) assisting in 
data collection through active interaction with child participants, including 
telephone screening interviews, in-person interviews, and fMRI data 
acquisition; and 3) conducting pre-processing and analysis of MRI, fMRI, DTI, 
and MRS data. Ability to work in command line operating systems (Linux) and 
perform basic shell scripting is required. Previous research or clinical 
experience with children and experience with other programming languages (e.g., 
python) is preferred.

This position would be an excellent fit for applicants interested in obtaining 
doctoral training in cognitive neuroscience, clinical psychology, or 
developmental psychology.




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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all normalization: bias field output

2014-08-28 Thread Barbara Kreilkamp
Dear Bruce and Christian,

I found the easy way of simply writing 'set cleanup = 0' at the 
beginning of mri_nu_correct.mni and then I run this command
mri_nu_correct.mni --i T2-scic/mri/orig/001.mgz --o nu.mgz --n 2

This way I get all the masks and iterations that were computed.

Now I also see that it generates as many folders as there are 
iterations, ending with nu2_field and nu2_est if there are two 
iterations. I see more files now and now I am thinking that the last 
output is nu2_field, which would be the bias field.
So this is why I did not divide anything by hand (also because my 
001.mgz and the nu.mgz do not have the same image dimensions) and the 
info about masked-out voxel would be missing in that case.

All the best and thanks.
Barbara


On 28/08/2014 14:46, Bruce Fischl wrote:
> Hi Barbara
> what exactly did you divide? If you look at the recon-all.log it will
> show the exact inputs and outputs of nu_correct.
>
> cheers
> Bruce
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Barbara Kreilkamp wrote:
>
>> Dear Christian,
>>
>> Thanks a bunch for this answer. I ran all the steps you mentioned
>> (except for the one where I simply do uncorrected/corrected, as these
>> images have different dimensions, it seems nu3 does more than just
>> normalization of intensities, but also image cropping). Do you know
>> anything about the image cropping?
>>
>> I ended up with the output nu1_mask and nu1_est and I think the last one
>> is the bias field, at least it looks very much like one :). Am I right?
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Barbara
>>
>>
>> On 27/08/2014 22:53, Christian Thode Larsen wrote:
>>> Hi Barbara,
>>>
>>> I'm not aware of any way that you can do it directly by passing
>>> arguments to recon-all (some might correct me on that), but it is possible:
>>>
>>> 1) As N3 models the bias as a multiplicative effect uncorrected =
>>> corrected * bias, the simplest way is to divide each voxel of the volume
>>> before and after correction, in order to obtain a volume containing the
>>> bias. Note that N3 (by default) works within a mask where low-intensity
>>> voxels have been thresholded away. These voxels will contain garbage if
>>> you divide all voxels in the volume.
>>>
>>> 2) Somewhat more complicated: you can specify the -keeptmp flag combined
>>> with -tmp SOMEDIR/ (remember the trailing slash) to N3, in order to
>>> preserve its working files. This requires you to modify the N3 binary
>>> call in the mri_nu_correct.mni script. You also need to convert the mnc
>>> files from the tmp dir, so that you can work with the volumes.
>>>
>>> 3) if you do 2), you also get hold of the low-intensity voxel mask that
>>> N3 operates within. You can use this to constrain the division mentioned
>>> in 1).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> On 8/27/2014 11:18 PM, Barbara Kreilkamp wrote:
 Dear all,

 Is there a way to output the N3's (non-parametric normalization step)
 output?
 I am interested in the bias field that was computed to correct the image
 intensities.

 Thank you for your help,
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[Freesurfer] selxavg3-sess error

2014-08-28 Thread Francesca Strappini
Dear all,

I've run selxavg3-sess and I got this error message when it tried to
read the fmcsm file (fmc.sm5.DM.lh.nii.gz).

Thank you for your help,
Francesca


shalim-ubuntu:/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy>
selxavg3-sess -a rtopy.DM.lh -s SUBJ01
Surface data DM lh
--
selxavg3-sess logfile is
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy/log/selxavg3-sess-bold-rtopy.DM.lh-140828163352.log
--
---
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy/SUBJ01
Thu Aug 28 16:33:53 IDT 2014
anadir = /usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy/SUBJ01/bold/rtopy.DM.lh
DoGLMFit = 1
DoContrasts = 1
UpdateNeeded = 1
--
--- matlab output 
No window system found.  Java option 'MWT' ignored.
Warning: Unable to open display 'iconic'.  You will not be able to
display graphics on the screen.
Warning: No window system found.  Java option 'MWT' ignored.

< M A T L A B (R) >
  Copyright 1984-2013 The MathWorks, Inc.
R2013b (8.2.0.701) 64-bit (glnxa64)
  August 13, 2013


To get started, type one of these: helpwin, helpdesk, or demo.
For product information, visit www.mathworks.com.

>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
sxa3pwd =

/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy

>>
sxa3cmd =

/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/selxavg3-sess -a rtopy.DM.lh -s SUBJ01

>> /usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_selxavg3.m
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

#@# SUBJ01 ###
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy/SUBJ01
-
$Id: fast_selxavg3.m,v 1.100.2.2 2012/11/30 18:40:38 greve Exp $
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_selxavg3.m
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox/fast_ldanaflac.m
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy/MRIread.m
-
outtop = /usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy
Extension format = nii.gz
ERROR: cannot determine format of
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy/SUBJ01/bold/001/fmcsm5
ERROR: attempting to read
/usr/local/freesurfer/fsfast/MeytalRetinotopy/SUBJ01/bold/001/fmcsm5
--
ERROR: fast_selxavg3() failed\n
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all normalization: bias field output

2014-08-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Barbara
what exactly did you divide? If you look at the recon-all.log it will 
show the exact inputs and outputs of nu_correct.

cheers
Bruce


On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Barbara Kreilkamp wrote:

> Dear Christian,
>
> Thanks a bunch for this answer. I ran all the steps you mentioned
> (except for the one where I simply do uncorrected/corrected, as these
> images have different dimensions, it seems nu3 does more than just
> normalization of intensities, but also image cropping). Do you know
> anything about the image cropping?
>
> I ended up with the output nu1_mask and nu1_est and I think the last one
> is the bias field, at least it looks very much like one :). Am I right?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Barbara
>
>
> On 27/08/2014 22:53, Christian Thode Larsen wrote:
>> Hi Barbara,
>>
>> I'm not aware of any way that you can do it directly by passing
>> arguments to recon-all (some might correct me on that), but it is possible:
>>
>> 1) As N3 models the bias as a multiplicative effect uncorrected =
>> corrected * bias, the simplest way is to divide each voxel of the volume
>> before and after correction, in order to obtain a volume containing the
>> bias. Note that N3 (by default) works within a mask where low-intensity
>> voxels have been thresholded away. These voxels will contain garbage if
>> you divide all voxels in the volume.
>>
>> 2) Somewhat more complicated: you can specify the -keeptmp flag combined
>> with -tmp SOMEDIR/ (remember the trailing slash) to N3, in order to
>> preserve its working files. This requires you to modify the N3 binary
>> call in the mri_nu_correct.mni script. You also need to convert the mnc
>> files from the tmp dir, so that you can work with the volumes.
>>
>> 3) if you do 2), you also get hold of the low-intensity voxel mask that
>> N3 operates within. You can use this to constrain the division mentioned
>> in 1).
>>
>> Best,
>> Christian
>>
>> On 8/27/2014 11:18 PM, Barbara Kreilkamp wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to output the N3's (non-parametric normalization step)
>>> output?
>>> I am interested in the bias field that was computed to correct the image
>>> intensities.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your help,
>>> Barbara
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all normalization: bias field output

2014-08-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Barbara,

you should just be ble to divide the original image by the nu-corrected 
one to get the estimated bias field.

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Barbara Kreilkamp 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Is there a way to output the N3's (non-parametric normalization step)
> output?
> I am interested in the bias field that was computed to correct the image
> intensities.
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Barbara
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Re: [Freesurfer] questions about mri_make_bem_surfaces

2014-08-28 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Gamaliel

do you mean a skull model? If so, you might check out Matti Hamalainen's 
MNE package, which is built on top of FreeSurfer surfaces.


cheers
Bruce


On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, gamaliel huerta urrea 
wrote:



Hi 

I have questions about the use of the function: 

mri_make_bem_surfaces 

I need to create a surface from a set of MRIs in DICOM format. I would like
if someone could help me. The only reference I have of the function is: 

https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/mri_make_bem_surfaces

and does not say much about its use. 

Any help is welcome. 

My idea then is to generate a 3D head model fieldtrip toolbox of Matlab. 

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[Freesurfer] recon-all -openmp N question

2014-08-28 Thread Krieger, Donald N.
The documentation for the 5.2.0 release (2Mar2013) states that -openmp works 
for the CentOS 6 distribution only.
Is this still the case?
Or does it work for CentOS 7 ?   any other Linux version ?

Thanks,

Don

Don Krieger, Ph.D.
Department of Neurological Surgery
University of Pittsburgh
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all normalization: bias field output

2014-08-28 Thread Barbara Kreilkamp
Dear Christian,

Thanks a bunch for this answer. I ran all the steps you mentioned 
(except for the one where I simply do uncorrected/corrected, as these 
images have different dimensions, it seems nu3 does more than just 
normalization of intensities, but also image cropping). Do you know 
anything about the image cropping?

I ended up with the output nu1_mask and nu1_est and I think the last one 
is the bias field, at least it looks very much like one :). Am I right?

Thanks for your help,
Barbara


On 27/08/2014 22:53, Christian Thode Larsen wrote:
> Hi Barbara,
>
> I'm not aware of any way that you can do it directly by passing
> arguments to recon-all (some might correct me on that), but it is possible:
>
> 1) As N3 models the bias as a multiplicative effect uncorrected =
> corrected * bias, the simplest way is to divide each voxel of the volume
> before and after correction, in order to obtain a volume containing the
> bias. Note that N3 (by default) works within a mask where low-intensity
> voxels have been thresholded away. These voxels will contain garbage if
> you divide all voxels in the volume.
>
> 2) Somewhat more complicated: you can specify the -keeptmp flag combined
> with -tmp SOMEDIR/ (remember the trailing slash) to N3, in order to
> preserve its working files. This requires you to modify the N3 binary
> call in the mri_nu_correct.mni script. You also need to convert the mnc
> files from the tmp dir, so that you can work with the volumes.
>
> 3) if you do 2), you also get hold of the low-intensity voxel mask that
> N3 operates within. You can use this to constrain the division mentioned
> in 1).
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> On 8/27/2014 11:18 PM, Barbara Kreilkamp wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Is there a way to output the N3's (non-parametric normalization step)
>> output?
>> I am interested in the bias field that was computed to correct the image
>> intensities.
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>> Barbara
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[Freesurfer] Qdec question

2014-08-28 Thread Abrishamchi, Aurash David
Hello,

I still cannot solve this issue. All help will be appreciated.

I am running Qdec analysis on about 100 subjects and correcting with FDR. Once 
I do this I click the "find clusters and go to max" button and Qdec gives me a 
plot of all the data as well as taking me to the max vertex in the #1 cluster.

I want to extract the data from the table so that I can put it in excel and 
calculate some correlations however I cannot find a way to do so without 
hovering or clicking on each data point and manually entering the values into 
excel. As you can imagine this is very tedious when there are 100 subjects and 
12 regions that we are looking at.

Please let me know if there is an alternative way to export the data into excel 
or even to a word processing file so that the values can be copied and pasted 
into excel.

Best,
Aurash Abrishamchi
Research Co Op - NCRI - Massachusetts General Hospital
165 Cambridge Street, Suite 600
Boston, MA 02214
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Re: [Freesurfer] 3dvolreg.afni error during mc-sess

2014-08-28 Thread Milde, Christopher
Dear Doug,

Finally, I was able to solve the 3dvolreg.afni error problem. I installed the 
recent AFNI version for Linux and replaced the 3dvolreg file in Freesurfer/bin 
by the AFNI 3dvolreg.afni of the AFNI software package. After adding the Suffix 
.afni  (the AFNI-3dvolreg file doesn't end with .afni) the mc-sess runs well.

Best wishes,

Christopher

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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Gesendet: Freitag, 22. August 2014 18:42
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Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] 3dvolreg.afni error during mc-sess


Hmm, that means that 3dvolreg.afni that comes with FS does not run properly on 
your system. Do you already have a full version of AFNI installed on your 
system?
doug


On 08/22/2014 05:00 AM, Milde, Christopher wrote:
> Dear Freesurfer Experts,
>
> I'm struggling with running only motion correction.
> After running mktemplate-sess which ran well, the mc-sess terminates 
> with the following error.
>
> The terminal otput is attached:
>
> "3dvolreg.afni: symbol lookup error: 3dvolreg.afni: undefined symbol: 
> afni_ncerr
> ERROR: 3dvolreg.afni"
>
> Some important comments:
> 1.) 3dvolreg.afni is within the bin-folder of Freesurfer
> 2.) I use partial-field-of-view EPI
> 3.) I run mc-sess und dcm2nii formated DICOM-files (is it a 
> prerequisite to use unpacksdcmdir)?
>
> Thank you, for your support!!!
>
> Greets Christopher
>
> *TERMINAL OUTPUT:*
>
> mc-sess -s PM_00031 -d $FSF_DIR -per-run  -fstem -outfmt nii.gz
>
> [christopher@fu20a S1]$ mc-sess -s PM_00923 -d $FSF_DIR -per-run 
> -fstem 20 -outfmt nii.gz
> fmt: Undefinierte Variable.
> [christopher@fu20a S1]$ mc-sess -s PM_00923 -d $FSF_DIR -per-run 
> -fstem 20 Logfile is 
> /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects/S1/log/mc-PM_00923-bold.
> log
> ---
> /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects/S1/PM_00923
> RunList: 001 002 004
>   --- ** ---
>   --- Motion Correcting Run 001 ---
>   --- ** --- sess = PM_00923 Fr 
> 22. Aug 09:35:07 CEST 2014
> mc-afni2 --i 001/20.nii.gz --t 001/template.nii.gz --o 
> 001/fmcpr.nii.gz --mcdat 001/fmcpr.mcdat 
> /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects/S1/PM_00923/bold
> mri_info --nframes --o /tmp/mriinfo.19767 001/template.nii.gz log file 
> is 001/fmcpr.nii.gz.mclog mcdat file is 001/fmcpr.mcdat tmp dir is 
> 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767 #@#  
> /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects/S1/PM_00923/bold
> mri_convert 001/template.nii.gz 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/tempvol.nii.gz
> --nskip 0 --ndrop 0 -odt float
> mri_convert 001/template.nii.gz 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/tempvol.nii.gz
> --nskip 0 --ndrop 0 -odt float
> nskip = 0
> ndrop = 0
> $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $ 
> reading from 001/template.nii.gz...
> TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00 i_ras = (-1, 0, 0) j_ras 
> = (0, -0.218143, 0.975917) k_ras = (0, -0.975917, -0.218143) writing 
> to 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/tempvol.nii.gz...
> #@# 
> /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects/S1/PM_00923/bold
> mri_convert 001/20.nii.gz 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/invol.nii.gz -odt 
> float mri_convert 001/20.nii.gz 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/invol.nii.gz 
> -odt float
> $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $ 
> reading from 001/20.nii.gz...
> TR=2000.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00 i_ras = (-1, 0, 0) j_ras 
> = (0, -0.218143, 0.975917) k_ras = (0, -0.975917, -0.218143) writing 
> to 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/invol.nii.gz...
> #@# 
> /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects/S1/PM_00923/bold
> 3dvolreg.afni -verbose -dfile 001/fmcpr.mcdat -1Dmatrix_save 
> 001/fmcpr.mat -base 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/tempvol.nii.gz -prefix 
> 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/outvol.nii.gz 
> 001/tmp.mc-afni2.19767/invol.nii.gz
> 3dvolreg.afni: symbol lookup error: 3dvolreg.afni: undefined symbol: 
> afni_ncerr
> ERROR: 3dvolreg.afni
> Ungültiger leerer Befehl.
>
>
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] Manual editing compared to non-manual editing.

2014-08-28 Thread Melanie Ganz

Dear Kasper,

I am glad you enjoyed the course.

Mikael Agn, a former master student at NRU, did a small study in his 
master thesis 
(http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/pubdb/views/publication_details.php?id=6647) in 
section 5.3 where he investigated manual edits vs. no manual edits on 
the same sample.
I have repeated Mikael's analysis on more datasets at NRU from 3 
scanners and saw that the difference was scanner dependent - meaning for 
one scanner the surface errors were systematic in the same place due to 
poor image quality, whereas for others it wasn't.


If you'd like more details let em know,
cheers,
Melanie

On 28-08-2014 12:54, Kasper Jessen wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for a good freesurfer course in Copenhagen. After the course 
i have been wondering if there is available litterature regarding 
manuel editing versus non-manuel editing?


Has any studies investigated the outcome/results from manual editing 
versus non-manuel editing on the same sample of subjects?


Best regards,
Kasper Jessen


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[Freesurfer] Manual editing compared to non-manual editing.

2014-08-28 Thread Kasper Jessen
Hi,

Thank you for a good freesurfer course in Copenhagen. After the course i
have been wondering if there is available litterature regarding manuel
editing versus non-manuel editing?

Has any studies investigated the outcome/results from manual editing versus
non-manuel editing on the same sample of subjects?

Best regards,
Kasper Jessen
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[Freesurfer] Problems with mri_watershed: almost no skull stripping

2014-08-28 Thread Úrsula Pérez Ramírez
Hello,

 

I'm having troubles trying to obtain only
the brain in T1-weighted RM images that contain metastases. 

 

First of all I have converted the DICOM images to mgz
with "mri_convert /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/A0D0C0.dcm 
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/case1.mgz" . Then, I have employed 
"mri_watershed -atlas /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/case1.mgz
 /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/brainmaskcase1.mgz"
but as I see with freeview, I obtain the original images with a really bad or
any skull stripping. For example, in one case, the left part is removed a lot
and the right is intact. I have lowered the threshold but nothing changes. How
could I solve it?

 

I'm working in VirtualBox and I didn't find the
".license" file, so I haven't copied the three lines. Is it
necessary?

 

Thank you very
much

Regards,

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[Freesurfer] Difference between surfcluster and volcluster

2014-08-28 Thread Katharina Zech
Dear all,

I run the surfcluster analysis (mri_surfcluster). But the tutorial tells me
that there exists also mri_volcluster:

  Using the outputs from the estimation step and the simulations,
mri_surfcluster (or *mri_volcluster*) will create two outputs: the summary
file with a table of the clusters it found, and an output surface map of
the clusters wth the cluster-wise p-value. The sample mri_surfcluster
command is:

mri_surfcluster --src lh.gender_age.glmdir/age/sig.mgh \
  --csd lh.gender_age.glmdir/csd1-age.csd \
  --csd lh.gender_age.glmdir/csd2-age.csd \
  --sum lh.gender_age.glmdir/age/sig.cluster.sum \
  --ocp lh.gender_age.glmdir/age/sig.cluster.mgh


Could you please tell me the difference between surfcluster and volcluster?

 How do I have to change the preprocessing steps mris_preproc, smoothing
(surf2surf), mdi_glmfit and the simulation to get volcluster instead of
surfcluster?

Thanks in advance!

Katharina
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