[Freesurfer] subcortical segmentation only

2014-12-10 Thread Lukas . Scheef

Hi FS-folks!

I would like to perform a subcortical segmentation only and I am not sure
which preprocessing steps I would have to perform to achieve this goal.
So far I did always the full monty using reconall -all. Which reconall
stages are needed if only the subcortical segmentation is of interest?

Best wishes and many thanks for you help!

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[Freesurfer] use of high res T1 for subcortical segmentation

2014-12-10 Thread Lukas . Scheef

Hi folks!

Is there any way to convince FS to make use of a high spatial resolution
(better than 1 x 1 x 1 mm3) for subcortical segmentation?

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Re: [Freesurfer] use of high res T1 for subcortical segmentation

2014-12-10 Thread Remi Gau

  
  
Yup.
  
  http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/HiResRecon
  
  Depending how far you intend to push it, you might need a
  different version of the mri_tesselate function.
  
  Best
  
  Remi Gau
  

  On 10/12/14 08:44, lukas.sch...@ukb.uni-bonn.de wrote:


  Hi folks!

Is there any way to convince FS
  to make use of a high spatial resolution (better than 1 x 1 x
  1 mm3) for subcortical segmentation?

Best wishes,

Luke

  
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] use of high res T1 for subcortical segmentation

2014-12-10 Thread Lukas . Scheef

Dear Remi!

Thanks a lot for the fast response. Could comment further on your point
that I might need a different version of mri_tesselate ...
The spatial resolution I am talking about is 0.5x0.5x0.8 mm3.

Best wihes,

Luke

 Yup.

 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/HiResRecon

 Depending how far you intend to push it, you might need a different
 version of the mri_tesselate function.

 Best

 Remi Gau

 On 10/12/14 08:44, lukas.sch...@ukb.uni-bonn.de wrote:
 Hi folks!

 Is there any way to convince FS to make use of a high spatial
 resolution (better than 1 x 1 x 1 mm3) for subcortical segmentation?

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Re: [Freesurfer] Probabilities in the Brodmann area labels

2014-12-10 Thread pfannmoelj
It is in fsaverage.


On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:37:43 +0100
pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:

 Dear FreeSurfer Experts,
 
 I am puzzeled about the probabilities in the Brodmann area labels. If I take 
 the Brodmann areas 1, 2, 3a and 3b and add their probabilities at a certain 
 vertex a probability sum  1 should arise. This is due to the fact that 10 
 brains where analyzed in order to compute the probabilities and in each brain 
 only one Brodmann area was found at each location. In my current test I 
 recognized that values  1 occur as often as values  1. How is this possible?
 
 Respectfully pfannmoe
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Re: [Freesurfer] Getting voxel values from aseg.mgz

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Pradeep

you can use mri_extract_label to copy just the hippocampal labels out of 
the segmentation if that is what you mean. The values for left and right 
hippocampus (17 and 53) can be found in 
$FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

cheers
Bruce
On 
Wed, 10 Dec 2014, pradeep mahato wrote:

 After the recon-all process I want to access all the voxels in the left
 hippocampus ( any subcortical region ) .
 Please tell me is there any method to extract this voxel values from an
 segmented image.
 
 Thanking you
 
 Pradeep Kumar Mahato
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] subcortical segmentation only

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Luke

you can run -autorecon1 and -autorecon2 if all you care about is the aseg 
(although we have tools for editing the cortical aseg labels with the 
surfaces that you will not be able to use in this case)

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, 
lukas.sch...@ukb.uni-bonn.de wrote:

 
 Hi FS-folks!
 
 I would like to perform a subcortical segmentation only and I am not sure
 which preprocessing steps I would have to perform to achieve this goal.
 So far I did always the full monty using reconall -all. Which reconall
 stages are needed if only the subcortical segmentation is of interest?
 
 Best wishes and many thanks for you help!
 
 Luke
 
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Probabilities in the Brodmann area labels

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
hmmm, is it on the boundaries of the labels? And only a bit 1? That can 
certainly happen due to resampling and small registration inaccuracies

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, 
pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:

 It is in fsaverage.


 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:37:43 +0100
 pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:

 Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

 I am puzzeled about the probabilities in the Brodmann area labels. If I take 
 the Brodmann areas 1, 2, 3a and 3b and add their probabilities at a certain 
 vertex a probability sum  1 should arise. This is due to the fact that 10 
 brains where analyzed in order to compute the probabilities and in each 
 brain only one Brodmann area was found at each location. In my current test 
 I recognized that values  1 occur as often as values  1. How is this 
 possible?

 Respectfully pfannmoe
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Re: [Freesurfer] use of high res T1 for subcortical segmentation

2014-12-10 Thread Remi Gau

  
  

  Hey,

Someone corrects me if I am wrong, but it seems that the number of vertices currently allowed with freesurfer cannot accomodate more than a certain number of vertices.
I suspect that the new version of Freesurfer should allow for more vertices.

On high res you might get such error message:
mri_tessellate: max vertices 100 exceeded
recon-all -s Subject_12 exited with ERRORS at Thu Apr 10 11:16:42 BST 2014

Seems the issue has been raised before in this thread: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer%40nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg31331.html

Zeke sent me a file of the new mri_tessellate: I can forward it to you if you want.

Best

  Remi Gau
  

  On 10/12/14 10:24, lukas.sch...@ukb.uni-bonn.de wrote:


  Dear Remi!

Thanks a lot for the fast
  response. Could comment further on your point that I might
  need a different version of mri_tesselate ...
The spatial resolution I am
  talking about is 0.5x0.5x0.8 mm3.

Best wihes,

Luke

 Yup.
 
   http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/HiResRecon
 
   Depending how far you intend to push it, you might need a
  different 
   version of the mri_tesselate function.
 
   Best
 
   Remi Gau
 
   On 10/12/14 08:44, lukas.sch...@ukb.uni-bonn.de wrote:
 Hi folks!
 
   Is there any way to convince FS to make use of a high
  spatial 
   resolution (better than 1 x 1 x 1 mm3) for subcortical
  segmentation?
 
   Best wishes,

  
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] use of high res T1 for subcortical segmentation

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Remi

yes, that's true. The limit is pretty arbitrary and supposed to be bigger 
than we would ever want, but if it is limiting we can bump it up
Bruce
On Wed, 10 
Dec 2014, Remi Gau wrote:

 
 Hey,
 
 Someone corrects me if I am wrong, but it seems that the number of vertices 
 currently allowed with freesurfer cannot accomodate more than a certain numb
 er of vertices.
 I suspect that the new version of Freesurfer should allow for more vertices.
 
 On high res you might get such error message:
 mri_tessellate: max vertices 100 exceeded
 recon-all -s Subject_12 exited with ERRORS at Thu Apr 10 11:16:42 BST 2014
 
 Seems the issue has been raised before in this thread: 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer%40nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg31331.html
 
 Zeke sent me a file of the new mri_tessellate: I can forward it to you if yo
 u want.
 
 Best
 Remi Gau
 
 On 10/12/14 10:24, lukas.sch...@ukb.uni-bonn.de wrote:

   Dear Remi!

   Thanks a lot for the fast response. Could comment further on
   your point that I might need a different version of
   mri_tesselate ...
   The spatial resolution I am talking about is 0.5x0.5x0.8 mm3.

   Best wihes,

   Luke

Yup.
   
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/HiResRecon
   
Depending how far you intend to push it, you might need a
   different
version of the mri_tesselate function.
   
Best
   
Remi Gau
   
On 10/12/14 08:44, lukas.sch...@ukb.uni-bonn.de wrote:
Hi folks!
   
Is there any way to convince FS to make use of a high spatial
resolution (better than 1 x 1 x 1 mm3) for subcortical
   segmentation?
   
Best wishes,
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

2014-12-10 Thread Xiaomin Yue
Hi Bruce,
the mris_thickness was looking for ?h.gray file to run correctly.  But no such 
file exists.  The freesurfer used is 5.3.  Any ideas?  The command line is: 
mris_thickness test_DB48 lh lh.thicknessThe error: reading gray matter surface 
/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray 
MRISread(/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray): could not open 
file.
Thanks,Xiaomin

From: yu...@hotmail.com
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:47:02 +







Thanks.  I will try mris_fill.

Xiaomin 
From: Bruce Fischl
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it creates a file in curvature format, yes. Did you try mris_fill for the 

wm.mgz? It won't be exactly the same as the one we would generate. You 

could use mris_fill to generate the interior of the ?h.white surface, 

then use the aseg to remove non-wm voxels I guess

On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, 

Xiaomin Yue wrote:



 Thanks very much.  Does this create curvature file?  Again, is it possible to 
 generate wm.mgz from those files?



 Thanks,

 Xiaomin





 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:



 I think just the ?h.white and ?h.pial



 cheers

 Bruce

 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:



 What I mean by inputs is the default files the mris_thickness will be

 looking for to run correctly

 Xiaomin

 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Xiaomin Yue yu...@hotmail.com wrote:



  Hi Bruce,



  Thanks for your response.  What's the inputs to the

  mris_thickness?  I need the wm.mgz to generate the ratio of gray

  vs. white matter.



  Xiaomin



  Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:55:21 -0500

  From: fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

  To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

 the thickness you can generate using mris_thikness. Why do you want to 
 generate a wm.mgz? I guess you could from the wmparc

 On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:

 Hi All,



 Cortical surface reconstructed using caret from a high resolution MRI data

 (0.25 mm) has been converted to freesurfer format, and viewed correctly

 using freeview.  My questions are whether it is possible to generate 1) a

 ?h.thickness from the ?h.pial and ?h.white; 2) wm.mgz file using ?h.pial a

 nd

 ?h.white



 Thanks very much for your inputs.

 Xiaomin





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Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl

it only looks for that if it can't find lh.pial. Does that exist?

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:


Hi Bruce,
the mris_thickness was looking for ?h.gray file to run correctly.  But no
such file exists.  The freesurfer used is 5.3.  Any ideas?  
The command line is: mris_thickness test_DB48 lh lh.thickness
The error: reading gray matter surface
/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray
               
 MRISread(/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray): could not
open file.

Thanks,
Xiaomin


From: yu...@hotmail.com
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:47:02 +

Thanks.  I will try mris_fill.

Xiaomin

From: Bruce Fischl
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎31‎ ‎PM
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it creates a file in curvature format, yes. Did you try mris_fill for the
wm.mgz? It won't be exactly the same as the one we would generate. You
could use mris_fill to generate the interior of the ?h.white surface,
then use the aseg to remove non-wm voxels I guess
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014,
Xiaomin Yue wrote:

 Thanks very much.  Does this create curvature file?  Again, is it possible
to generate wm.mgz from those files?

 Thanks,
 Xiaomin


 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
wrote:

 I think just the ?h.white and ?h.pial

 cheers
 Bruce
 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:

 What I mean by inputs is the default files the mris_thickness will be
 looking for to run correctly
 Xiaomin
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Xiaomin Yue yu...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi Bruce,

  Thanks for your response.  What's the inputs to the
  mris_thickness?  I need the wm.mgz to generate the ratio of gray
  vs. white matter.

  Xiaomin

  Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:55:21 -0500
  From: fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
 the thickness you can generate using mris_thikness. Why do you want to
generate a wm.mgz? I guess you could from the wmparc
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 Hi All,

 Cortical surface reconstructed using caret from a high resolution MRI
data
 (0.25 mm) has been converted to freesurfer format, and viewed correctly
 using freeview.  My questions are whether it is possible to generate 1)
a
 ?h.thickness from the ?h.pial and ?h.white; 2) wm.mgz file using
?h.pial a
 nd
 ?h.white

 Thanks very much for your inputs.
 Xiaomin


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Re: [Freesurfer] Probabilities in the Brodmann area labels

2014-12-10 Thread pfannmoelj
Dear Bruce,

if I take BA1, BA2, BA3a and BA3b and sum the probabilities at each vertex 
there are 17 % of the vertices which show probabilities  1. The largest 
probability is 1.7778. There is a histogramm of the values attached to this 
mail. Is there a possibility to correct those values?

Respectfully pfannmoe



On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:28:34 -0500 (EST)
Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 hmmm, is it on the boundaries of the labels? And only a bit 1? That can 
 certainly happen due to resampling and small registration inaccuracies
 
 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, 
 pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:
 
  It is in fsaverage.
 
 
  On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:37:43 +0100
  pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:
 
  Dear FreeSurfer Experts,
 
  I am puzzeled about the probabilities in the Brodmann area labels. If I 
  take the Brodmann areas 1, 2, 3a and 3b and add their probabilities at a 
  certain vertex a probability sum  1 should arise. This is due to the fact 
  that 10 brains where analyzed in order to compute the probabilities and in 
  each brain only one Brodmann area was found at each location. In my 
  current test I recognized that values  1 occur as often as values  1. 
  How is this possible?
 
  Respectfully pfannmoe
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Re: [Freesurfer] Probabilities in the Brodmann area labels

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi pfannmoe

that seems reasonable given small registration inaccuracies and 
resampling issues

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:

 Dear Bruce,

 if I take BA1, BA2, BA3a and BA3b and sum the probabilities at each vertex 
 there are 17 % of the vertices which show probabilities  1. The largest 
 probability is 1.7778. There is a histogramm of the values attached to this 
 mail. Is there a possibility to correct those values?

 Respectfully pfannmoe



 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:28:34 -0500 (EST)
 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 hmmm, is it on the boundaries of the labels? And only a bit 1? That can
 certainly happen due to resampling and small registration inaccuracies

 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014,
 pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:

 It is in fsaverage.


 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:37:43 +0100
 pfannmo...@uni-greifswald.de wrote:

 Dear FreeSurfer Experts,

 I am puzzeled about the probabilities in the Brodmann area labels. If I 
 take the Brodmann areas 1, 2, 3a and 3b and add their probabilities at a 
 certain vertex a probability sum  1 should arise. This is due to the fact 
 that 10 brains where analyzed in order to compute the probabilities and in 
 each brain only one Brodmann area was found at each location. In my 
 current test I recognized that values  1 occur as often as values  1. 
 How is this possible?

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Re: [Freesurfer] retinotopy analysis viewing problem in Freesurfer 5

2014-12-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

On 12/08/2014 09:19 PM, zhang mingxia wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 I followed this guide: 
 https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis. 
 I used tksurfer-sess to view. Does significant activation in the 
 visual cortex mean the map fromtksurfer-sess -a rtopy.self.?h -s 
 sessid? If so, yes.

 My question is (1) What do the maps from

 tksurfer-sess -a rtopy.self.?h -s sessid -- this shows you the 
 significance map (-log10(p)) with eccen and polar in different frames 
 in the tksurfer overaly.

 , tksurfer-sess -a rtopy.self.?h -s sessid -map angle This shows you 
 the angle with eccen and polar in different frames in the tksurfer overlay

 , tksurfer-sess -a rtopy.self.?h -s sessid -map angle.masked This 
 shows you the angle with eccen and polar in different frames in the 
 tksurfer overlay with the angle masked to only those voxels that are 
 significant (p.01).

 and tksurfer-sess -a rtopy.self.?h -s sessid -fieldsign represent? 
 This shows you the field sign map.


 (2)I expected to get a red, green and blue map, but none of them is. 
 The first three are heat (yellow and red) and the fourth is red-blue. 
 This is the first time for me to do retinotopic analysis. The data is 
 from an experienced group for doing retinotopic research. I analyzed 
 four runs with two for eccen and two for polar. Do other people also 
 get this kind of color by using the script in the website above?
tksurfer-sess will not generate a RGB colorwheel map. This functionality 
has been hard to continue to support. You can try rtview. You would use 
the RGB map to show the angle maps.

 (3)Which map is for delineating the boarder of visual area?
field sign

 (4)Again, I expect to get a red, green and blue map as this people 
 asked 
 :https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg21512.html. 
 How can I get a standard color?

 Thanks again!

 Mingxia

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 I'm not sure what you are asking for. Do you see significant
 activation
 in the visual cortex? What command are you running to view?


 On 12/08/2014 09:48 AM, zhang mingxia wrote:
  Dear freesurfer experts,
 
  I used Freesurfer 5 to do the retinotopic analysis followed by
 
 
 https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis.
  However, finally I didn't get a red, green and blue map as I
 expected.
 
  This is the first time for me to analyze retinotopic data. I
 have not
  quite understood what the raw angle map, the angle map masked by sig
  and field sign map meant. My purpose was to delineate the boarder of
  visual area. To my knowledge from previous study, I should get a
  colorful map. It seems I didn't get a right one (However, I exactly
  follow the guide and didn't get any error). Some other people seems
  having the same viewing problem: (He/She didn't have eccen data. I
  have both eccen and polar data. I also only got a heat map
 instead of
  a red, green and blue one)
 
 https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg21512.html
 
  (1)Is it due to the threshold? How can I get a red, green and
 blue map?
  (2) What does the three maps represent?
 
  Thanks a lot!
 
  Mingxia
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2014-12-10 Thread Douglas N Greve
No, not for surfaces.  Alphasim has to smooth the data which requires 
knowledge of the underlying geometry. Alphasim assumes a volume-based 
geometry and has no knowledge of surface-based geometry (unless it has 
been updated in the last 5 years). We have  the ability to do 
simulations like alphasim on surface-based geometry.
doug
On 12/08/2014 09:36 PM, Xinfa Shi wrote:
 Hello,everyone

 Your reply said I can't use alphasim with qdec.By the way ,Could I use 
 alphasim in other ways in FreeSurfer,for example command line ?

 Best regards.

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Re: [Freesurfer] multiple comparisons correction for individual hemispheres (native space)

2014-12-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

Are you using 1.3 or 1,3 ?

On 12/09/2014 03:10 AM, Milde, Christopher wrote:
 Dear Doug,

 I tried to run MCC with cluster-sess but unfortunately I got the same error 
 message like when I'm using mri_glmfit-sim.
 It does not recognize the thresh (cluster-forming thresh)

 Here is the terminal output:

 Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
 FREESURFER_HOME   /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer
 FSFAST_HOME   /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/fsfast
 FSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii.gz
 SUBJECTS_DIR  /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects
 MNI_DIR   /home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/mni
 FSL_DIR   /usr/local/fsl
 [christopher@fu20a S1]$ proj_dir=/home/christopher/Desktop/freesurfer/S1
 [christopher@fu20a S1]$ cd $proj_dir
 [christopher@fu20a S1]$
 [christopher@fu20a S1]$ cluster-sess -s PM_02540 -c stim_DL -analysis 
 DL.sm5.rh -thresh 1.3 -cwp .05 -sign pos
 ERROR: thresh = 1,3, must be 1.3, 2.0, 2.3, 3.0, 3.3, 4.0

 Sincerely yours,

 Christopher



 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
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 Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] multiple comparisons correction for individual 
 hemispheres (native space)


 Hi Christopher, sorry for the delay. I had a write a new program. You can 
 download it from here 
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/cluster-sess
 Let me know how it goes

 doug

 On 11/14/2014 06:05 AM, Milde, Christopher wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 I performed fMRI analysis using FSFast resulting in uncorrected significance 
 maps (fsig.nii.gz). For selxavg3-sess I did not use the -fwhm flag (I rerun 
 selxavg3-sess with -fwhm at moment).

 How can I use simulations for native space hemispheres?. I tried to adapt 
 mri_glmfit-sim but unfortunately it failed...

 Sincerely yours,

 Christopher

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Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

2014-12-10 Thread Xiaomin Yue
Yes, lh.pial exists

Xiaomin 

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
 it only looks for that if it can't find lh.pial. Does that exist?
 
 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 
 Hi Bruce,
 the mris_thickness was looking for ?h.gray file to run correctly.  But no
 such file exists.  The freesurfer used is 5.3.  Any ideas?  
 The command line is: mris_thickness test_DB48 lh lh.thickness
 The error: reading gray matter surface
 /misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray

  MRISread(/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray): could not
 open file.
 Thanks,
 Xiaomin
 
 From: yu...@hotmail.com
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:47:02 +
 Thanks.  I will try mris_fill.
 Xiaomin
 From: Bruce Fischl
 Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎31‎ ‎PM
 To: Freesurfer support list
 it creates a file in curvature format, yes. Did you try mris_fill for the
 wm.mgz? It won't be exactly the same as the one we would generate. You
 could use mris_fill to generate the interior of the ?h.white surface,
 then use the aseg to remove non-wm voxels I guess
 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014,
 Xiaomin Yue wrote:
  Thanks very much.  Does this create curvature file?  Again, is it possible
 to generate wm.mgz from those files?
 
  Thanks,
  Xiaomin
 
 
  On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
 
  I think just the ?h.white and ?h.pial
 
  cheers
  Bruce
  On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 
  What I mean by inputs is the default files the mris_thickness will be
  looking for to run correctly
  Xiaomin
  On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Xiaomin Yue yu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi Bruce,
 
   Thanks for your response.  What's the inputs to the
   mris_thickness?  I need the wm.mgz to generate the ratio of gray
   vs. white matter.
 
   Xiaomin
 
   Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:55:21 -0500
   From: fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
  the thickness you can generate using mris_thikness. Why do you want to
 generate a wm.mgz? I guess you could from the wmparc
  On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Cortical surface reconstructed using caret from a high resolution MRI
 data
  (0.25 mm) has been converted to freesurfer format, and viewed correctly
  using freeview.  My questions are whether it is possible to generate 1)
 a
  ?h.thickness from the ?h.pial and ?h.white; 2) wm.mgz file using
 ?h.pial a
  nd
  ?h.white
 
  Thanks very much for your inputs.
  Xiaomin
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

2014-12-10 Thread Xiaomin Yue
Yes, lh.pial exists

Xiaomin 

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
 it only looks for that if it can't find lh.pial. Does that exist?
 
 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 
 Hi Bruce,
 the mris_thickness was looking for ?h.gray file to run correctly.  But no
 such file exists.  The freesurfer used is 5.3.  Any ideas?  
 The command line is: mris_thickness test_DB48 lh lh.thickness
 The error: reading gray matter surface
 /misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray
 
 MRISread(/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray): could not
 open file.
 Thanks,
 Xiaomin
 
 From: yu...@hotmail.com
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:47:02 +
 Thanks.  I will try mris_fill.
 Xiaomin
 From: Bruce Fischl
 Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎31‎ ‎PM
 To: Freesurfer support list
 it creates a file in curvature format, yes. Did you try mris_fill for the
 wm.mgz? It won't be exactly the same as the one we would generate. You
 could use mris_fill to generate the interior of the ?h.white surface,
 then use the aseg to remove non-wm voxels I guess
 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014,
 Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 Thanks very much.  Does this create curvature file?  Again, is it possible
 to generate wm.mgz from those files?
 
 Thanks,
 Xiaomin
 
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
 
 I think just the ?h.white and ?h.pial
 
 cheers
 Bruce
 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 
 What I mean by inputs is the default files the mris_thickness will be
 looking for to run correctly
 Xiaomin
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Xiaomin Yue yu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bruce,
 
 Thanks for your response.  What's the inputs to the
 mris_thickness?  I need the wm.mgz to generate the ratio of gray
 vs. white matter.
 
 Xiaomin
 
 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:55:21 -0500
 From: fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
 the thickness you can generate using mris_thikness. Why do you want to
 generate a wm.mgz? I guess you could from the wmparc
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Cortical surface reconstructed using caret from a high resolution MRI
 data
 (0.25 mm) has been converted to freesurfer format, and viewed correctly
 using freeview.  My questions are whether it is possible to generate 1)
 a
 ?h.thickness from the ?h.pial and ?h.white; 2) wm.mgz file using
 ?h.pial a
 nd
 ?h.white
 
 Thanks very much for your inputs.
 Xiaomin
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
what version of FS do you have? You can try runing it with -pial pial but 
I wouldn't think that is needed. Is the lh.pial in 
/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/


and is it readable?

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:


Yes, lh.pial exists

Xiaomin


On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

it only looks for that if it can't find lh.pial. Does that exist?


On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:

Hi Bruce,
the mris_thickness was looking for ?h.gray file to run correctly.  But no
such file exists.  The freesurfer used is 5.3.  Any ideas?
The command line is: mris_thickness test_DB48 lh lh.thickness
The error: reading gray matter surface
/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray

 MRISread(/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray): could not
open file.
Thanks,
Xiaomin

From: yu...@hotmail.com
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:47:02 +
Thanks.  I will try mris_fill.
Xiaomin
From: Bruce Fischl
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎31‎ ‎PM
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it creates a file in curvature format, yes. Did you try mris_fill for the
wm.mgz? It won't be exactly the same as the one we would generate. You
could use mris_fill to generate the interior of the ?h.white surface,
then use the aseg to remove non-wm voxels I guess
On Tue, 9 Dec 2014,
Xiaomin Yue wrote:

Thanks very much.  Does this create curvature file?  Again, is it possible

to generate wm.mgz from those files?


Thanks,
Xiaomin



On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

wrote:


I think just the ?h.white and ?h.pial

cheers
Bruce

On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:

What I mean by inputs is the default files the mris_thickness will be
looking for to run correctly
Xiaomin
On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Xiaomin Yue yu...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Bruce,

 Thanks for your response.  What's the inputs to the
 mris_thickness?  I need the wm.mgz to generate the ratio of gray
 vs. white matter.

 Xiaomin

 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:55:21 -0500
 From: fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
the thickness you can generate using mris_thikness. Why do you want to

generate a wm.mgz? I guess you could from the wmparc

On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:

Hi All,

Cortical surface reconstructed using caret from a high resolution MRI

data

(0.25 mm) has been converted to freesurfer format, and viewed correctly
using freeview.  My questions are whether it is possible to generate 1)

a

?h.thickness from the ?h.pial and ?h.white; 2) wm.mgz file using

?h.pial a

nd

?h.white


Thanks very much for your inputs.

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Re: [Freesurfer] --reg in mri_vol2surf

2014-12-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

Converting that matrix will not be easy. If you want to try, look at our 
wiki page on coordinate systems and see how your coordinate systems 
match up. It won't be easy. Your bbregister command is not going to work 
for sure, you cannot use --init-header (which should only be used for 
two MRIs acquired in the same session). Try --init-fsl or --init-spm. 
Most PET tracers have an effective T2 weighting



On 12/08/2014 04:52 PM, Liang Wang wrote:
 Hi Bruce,
 Thanks a lot for the suggestions! Here are some followup questions.
 1) The functional volume was PET data and anatomical data have been 
 processed with Freesurfer. I run the bbregister as:
 bbregister --mov PET.nii --s subject_name --reg register.dat --t1 
 --init-header
 It does not register the PET to anatomical images well. Since PET 
 contrast does not like the typical t1/t2, I am not sure how to set the 
 --contrast argument (already tried to both t1 and t2). Also, as PET 
 and anatomical are both in native space, not sure how to set the --init-
 2) Actually, the PET image has been aligned with orig.mgz well (in the 
 native space) using a in-house method. The registration matrix likes 
 below:
   0.992629  0.109294  0.052358   10.4812
  -0.102034  0.986829 -0.125525   16.5118
  -0.065387  0.119257  0.990708  -23.4735
   0.00  0.00  0.001.
 I wonder if there is a way that can convert this matrix to a readable 
 format for mri_vol2surf.
 3) I tried to run mri_vol2surf (using a --regheader option as pet.nii 
 and orig.mgz already aligning well) as:
 mri_vol2surf --mov PET.nii --hemi lh --regheader subject_name --o 
 lh.pet.mgh. But the results does not look right.
 Any suggestions for these questions would be very appreciated!

 -Liang

 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Bruce Fischl 
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Liang

 try bbregister.

 cheers
 Bruce

 On Fri, 5 Dec 2014, Liang Wang wrote:

 Hi Experts,

 At subject level, I want to convert a functional volume (in a
 subject's
 native space) to this subject's native surface. The functional
 volume has
 been registered to this subject T1 images in native space. I know
 mri_vol2surf'  would do the job but unsure how to generate
 the registration
 matrix for --reg option. I appreciate any suggestions.

 Thanks
 -Liang


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[Freesurfer] [Fwd: Re: Modeling cortical thickness question]

2014-12-10 Thread Alexandra Tanner
Hi Doug,
Thanks for your response! Please see Josh's follow-up question below.
Thanks again for your help!

Best,
Alex

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Freesurfer] Modeling cortical thickness question]
From:Roffman, Joshua L.,M.D. jroff...@partners.org
Date:Wed, December 10, 2014 11:52 am
To:  Alexandra Tanner atan...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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Maybe...if we take this approach I guess we would want the cube root of
age, not age cubed? The relationship we are testing is whether y=x^3
(where x is age and y is cortical thickness). So if we took the cube root
of both sides, that might be closer to what we want?

(Alex: could you forward this to the list)

Thx
Josh

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Alexandra Tanner
atan...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 Hi Josh,
 Below is Doug's response...does this answer your question?

 Thanks,
 Alex

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Modeling cortical thickness question
 From:Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Date:Tue, December 9, 2014 4:48 pm
 To:  freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 --


 Do you mean a polynomial of age? If so, just add age age^2 and age^3 as
 variables in the FSGD file
 doug

 On 12/09/2014 02:04 PM, Alexandra Tanner wrote:
 Hello Freesurfers,

 Our group is wondering if any of you know whether it is possible to model
 cortical thickness as a third order polynomial? The specific question is:
 we are looking at whether there is a hyperbolic relationship between
 cortical thickness and date of birth among a cohort of individuals born
 over a 6 year period. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

 Thanks,
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[Freesurfer] QDEC cluster stats

2014-12-10 Thread Worker, Amanda
Hi All,


I am using QDEC to run a correlation analysis and I have a lot of large 
significant clusters that encompass various different cortical regions. I am 
hoping to extract mean thickness' from the significant clusters in order to 
create a plot to display the correlations. Can anyone tell me where to find or 
how to generate stats (e.g. mean thickness/SD) for each significant cluster? At 
the moment I am only able to visualise the regions or plot correlations for 
regional thickness' but this doesn't reflect the significant clusters. Do I 
need to draw an ROI around the cluster and generate the stats?


Best wishes,


Amanda
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Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

2014-12-10 Thread Xiaomin Yue
The problem was solved.  I typed the wrong name.  
mris_fill had generated wm.mgz correctly, with the problem that a significant 
portion of white matter was cutted off.  The problem I believe is that the 
resolution or the matrix size of wm.mgz is limited to 256 X 256 X 256, but the 
high resolution data has dimension larger than that.  Is it possible to have a 
wm.mgz larger than 256^3?  Or some kind of trick to make it happen?

Thanks,Xiaomin  
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:37:29 -0500
From: fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white

what version of FS do you have? You can try runing it with -pial pial but 
I wouldn't think that is needed. Is the lh.pial in 
/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/
 
and is it readable?
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 
 Yes, lh.pial exists

 Xiaomin

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 wrote:

 it only looks for that if it can't find lh.pial. Does that exist?

 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:

 Hi Bruce,
 the mris_thickness was looking for ?h.gray file to run correctly.  But no
 such file exists.  The freesurfer used is 5.3.  Any ideas?
 The command line is: mris_thickness test_DB48 lh lh.thickness
 The error: reading gray matter surface
 /misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray

  MRISread(/misc/data41/yuex/recon_test/test_DB48/surf/lh.gray): could not
 open file.
 Thanks,
 Xiaomin
 
 From: yu...@hotmail.com
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:47:02 +
 Thanks.  I will try mris_fill.
 Xiaomin
 From: Bruce Fischl
 Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 4:31 PM
 To: Freesurfer support list
 it creates a file in curvature format, yes. Did you try mris_fill for the
 wm.mgz? It won't be exactly the same as the one we would generate. You
 could use mris_fill to generate the interior of the ?h.white surface,
 then use the aseg to remove non-wm voxels I guess
 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014,
 Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 Thanks very much.  Does this create curvature file?  Again, is it possible
 to generate wm.mgz from those files?

 Thanks,
 Xiaomin


 On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:

 I think just the ?h.white and ?h.pial

 cheers
 Bruce
 On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:

 What I mean by inputs is the default files the mris_thickness will be
 looking for to run correctly
 Xiaomin
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Xiaomin Yue yu...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi Bruce,

  Thanks for your response.  What's the inputs to the
  mris_thickness?  I need the wm.mgz to generate the ratio of gray
  vs. white matter.

  Xiaomin

  Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:55:21 -0500
  From: fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] thickness from pial and white
 the thickness you can generate using mris_thikness. Why do you want to
 generate a wm.mgz? I guess you could from the wmparc
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, Xiaomin Yue wrote:
 Hi All,

 Cortical surface reconstructed using caret from a high resolution MRI
 data
 (0.25 mm) has been converted to freesurfer format, and viewed correctly
 using freeview.  My questions are whether it is possible to generate 1)
 a
 ?h.thickness from the ?h.pial and ?h.white; 2) wm.mgz file using
 ?h.pial a
 nd
 ?h.white

 Thanks very much for your inputs.
 Xiaomin


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[Freesurfer] GI and CT relationship

2014-12-10 Thread elisa veronese
Dear FreeSurfer users,

I have a question regarding the link between cortical thickness and
gyrification index: suppose I have a general decrease of cortical thickness
in a lobe of the brain.
Is it correct to suppose that consiquentely the gyrification index will
decrease in the sulci (because of the decreased curvature) and that it will
increase in the gyri (because of the increased curvature)?
So that probably I would not be able to measure any difference in the
gyrification index of that lobe?

Thank you.

Best,

elisa
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[Freesurfer] coordinates in label-file?

2014-12-10 Thread Philipp Otmar Heinrich Heimbeck
Hello all!

I saved clusters as labelfiles with mri_surfcluster (fMRI-Data,  
surface = self). The labels seem to hold the following data in each row:
Vertex-No., x-, y-, z-coordinates of some kind (not so sure about  
that), and a t-value.

The Label-Vertex-No. and t-value match the output (VtxMax and Max) in  
the sumfile of mri_surfcluster, while the coordinates don't match  
those in the sumfile. They seem to be neither in Talairach nor in MNI  
space, at least I don't get matching coordinates with the transforms  
described here: http://imaging.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/imaging/MniTalairach
I hope you could shed some light on whether these columns really hold  
some kind of coordinates, and if you know of a way to transform them  
into Talairach space!

Best regards,

Philipp


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Re: [Freesurfer] [Fwd: Re: Modeling cortical thickness question]

2014-12-10 Thread Chris Watson

No, just include age^3, if the mean function is

E(thickness | X) = B_0 + B_1 * age^3

It's similar to taking the logarithm of one of your predictors. Just 
remember that the units for the parameter estimate will be different 
than if you were just including age.


On 12/10/2014 12:12 PM, Alexandra Tanner wrote:

Hi Doug,
Thanks for your response! Please see Josh's follow-up question below.
Thanks again for your help!

Best,
Alex

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Freesurfer] Modeling cortical thickness question]
From:Roffman, Joshua L.,M.D. jroff...@partners.org
Date:Wed, December 10, 2014 11:52 am
To:  Alexandra Tanner atan...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
--

Maybe...if we take this approach I guess we would want the cube root of
age, not age cubed? The relationship we are testing is whether y=x^3
(where x is age and y is cortical thickness). So if we took the cube root
of both sides, that might be closer to what we want?

(Alex: could you forward this to the list)

Thx
Josh

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Alexandra Tanner

atan...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

Hi Josh,
Below is Doug's response...does this answer your question?

Thanks,
Alex

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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Modeling cortical thickness question
From:Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Date:Tue, December 9, 2014 4:48 pm
To:  freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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Do you mean a polynomial of age? If so, just add age age^2 and age^3 as
variables in the FSGD file
doug


On 12/09/2014 02:04 PM, Alexandra Tanner wrote:
Hello Freesurfers,

Our group is wondering if any of you know whether it is possible to model
cortical thickness as a third order polynomial? The specific question is:
we are looking at whether there is a hyperbolic relationship between
cortical thickness and date of birth among a cohort of individuals born
over a 6 year period. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: [Freesurfer] --reg in mri_vol2surf

2014-12-10 Thread Liang Wang
Thanks Doug! Will try the --init-fsl or --init-spm for bbregister.
-Liang

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 Converting that matrix will not be easy. If you want to try, look at our
 wiki page on coordinate systems and see how your coordinate systems
 match up. It won't be easy. Your bbregister command is not going to work
 for sure, you cannot use --init-header (which should only be used for
 two MRIs acquired in the same session). Try --init-fsl or --init-spm.
 Most PET tracers have an effective T2 weighting



 On 12/08/2014 04:52 PM, Liang Wang wrote:
  Hi Bruce,
  Thanks a lot for the suggestions! Here are some followup questions.
  1) The functional volume was PET data and anatomical data have been
  processed with Freesurfer. I run the bbregister as:
  bbregister --mov PET.nii --s subject_name --reg register.dat --t1
  --init-header
  It does not register the PET to anatomical images well. Since PET
  contrast does not like the typical t1/t2, I am not sure how to set the
  --contrast argument (already tried to both t1 and t2). Also, as PET
  and anatomical are both in native space, not sure how to set the
 --init-
  2) Actually, the PET image has been aligned with orig.mgz well (in the
  native space) using a in-house method. The registration matrix likes
  below:
0.992629  0.109294  0.052358   10.4812
   -0.102034  0.986829 -0.125525   16.5118
   -0.065387  0.119257  0.990708  -23.4735
0.00  0.00  0.001.
  I wonder if there is a way that can convert this matrix to a readable
  format for mri_vol2surf.
  3) I tried to run mri_vol2surf (using a --regheader option as pet.nii
  and orig.mgz already aligning well) as:
  mri_vol2surf --mov PET.nii --hemi lh --regheader subject_name --o
  lh.pet.mgh. But the results does not look right.
  Any suggestions for these questions would be very appreciated!
 
  -Liang
 
  On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Bruce Fischl
  fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
  Hi Liang
 
  try bbregister.
 
  cheers
  Bruce
 
  On Fri, 5 Dec 2014, Liang Wang wrote:
 
  Hi Experts,
 
  At subject level, I want to convert a functional volume (in a
  subject's
  native space) to this subject's native surface. The functional
  volume has
  been registered to this subject T1 images in native space. I know
  mri_vol2surf'  would do the job but unsure how to generate
  the registration
  matrix for --reg option. I appreciate any suggestions.
 
  Thanks
  -Liang
 
 
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[Freesurfer] mris_calc or other calculators

2014-12-10 Thread Liang Wang
Hi experts,

I have cortical thickness on fsaverage surfaces
(?h.thickness_on_fsaverage.mgh) from a group of individuals. I'd like to
create a volume (.mgh) that represents group mean or sd or other
descriptive statistics. I know mris_calc can do similar job but wonder if
there is more straightforward way for this? Or I have to convert this (mgh)
to other format and then use image calculator (e.g., fslmath etc) to do
this?

Thanks
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_calc or other calculators

2014-12-10 Thread Douglas N Greve

You can use mri_concat, something like

mri_concat file1.mgh file2.mgh --mean --o mean.mgh



On 12/10/2014 04:00 PM, Liang Wang wrote:
 Hi experts,

 I have cortical thickness on fsaverage surfaces 
 (?h.thickness_on_fsaverage.mgh) from a group of individuals. I'd like 
 to create a volume (.mgh) that represents group mean or sd or other 
 descriptive statistics. I know mris_calc can do similar job but wonder 
 if there is more straightforward way for this? Or I have to convert 
 this (mgh) to other format and then use image calculator (e.g., 
 fslmath etc) to do this?

 Thanks
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_calc or other calculators

2014-12-10 Thread Liang Wang
Cool! Thanks Doug!

-Liang

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
wrote:


 You can use mri_concat, something like

 mri_concat file1.mgh file2.mgh --mean --o mean.mgh



 On 12/10/2014 04:00 PM, Liang Wang wrote:
  Hi experts,
 
  I have cortical thickness on fsaverage surfaces
  (?h.thickness_on_fsaverage.mgh) from a group of individuals. I'd like
  to create a volume (.mgh) that represents group mean or sd or other
  descriptive statistics. I know mris_calc can do similar job but wonder
  if there is more straightforward way for this? Or I have to convert
  this (mgh) to other format and then use image calculator (e.g.,
  fslmath etc) to do this?
 
  Thanks
  -Liang
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Question re. Tracula motion measures

2014-12-10 Thread Yuwen Hung
Hi,
I ran our pipeline script that contains DTI_prep and Tracula, and when I 
extracted the individual motion data, they are mostly zeros (see below)
Is this normal? If this is a problem, can anyone please let me know if there 
any way to fix this (e.g. re-run the motion script..)?
Your help would be greatly appreciated!

ps: I just need to examine the motions between 2 groups (below are all data 
from the 2 groups).

AvgTranslation AvgRotation PercentBadSlices AvgDropoutScore
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0.0419463 1.02647
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0.370763 1.23369
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0.414365 1.13071
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1

Thanks so much for helping!

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Re: [Freesurfer] Discrete video card: ATI/AMD success stories?

2014-12-10 Thread Z K
ATI/AMD cards with up to date drivers should be fine.

-Zeke

On 12/05/2014 10:00 PM, Chris McNorgan wrote:
 Hi Freesurfers,

 I am spec'ing a couple of Linux workstations to run Freesurfer, among
 other software. Complicating matters, our preferred vendor's
 configurations include ATI/AMD video cards, but the FSWiki recommends
 nVidia cards. I was wondering if I am likely to run into problems if I
 go with the standard configurations, or if I should press to get an
 nVidia card certified for the system.

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Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting hippocampus

2014-12-10 Thread Bruce Fischl
the ribbon.mgz isn't part of autorecon2 (or autorecon1) I don't think. 
What are you trying to run?

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, pradeep mahato wrote:


Hi Bruce,

After running autorecon1 and autorecon2, I am getting an error saying
ribbon.mgz file is missing.
Is it that autorecon2 the 23rd function didn't execute.
Attaching the recon log also.

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wrote:
  Hi Pradeep

  sorry, I meant autorecon1 and autorecon2 (but not autorecon3)

  cheers
  Bruce
  On Tue, 9 Dec
  2014, pradeep mahato wrote:

   Hi Bruce,
  
   I am using Intel Core 2 Quad core processor 2.2 GHz with 4 GB
  ram.
   The version i am using is
  freesurfer-i686-redhat-linux-gnu-stable5-20130513
   Using autorecon2 process , I got error saying nu.mgz file is
  missing. Error
   : mghRead(/home/nsb/oasis/OAS2_RAW_PART1/OAS1_2/mri/nu.mgz,
  -1): could not
   open file
   Should I include nuintensitycor.
  
   Thanks
  
   Pradeep
  
   On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Bruce Fischl
  fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
   wrote:
         Hi Pradeep
  
         you could only run recon-all -autorecon2 instead of -all
  which
         should
         save you some time. 30 hours is pretty long though. What
         hardware are you
         using? If you have a modern Linux box with say 4-8 cores
  it
         should take
         less than 10. Or with 2 cores and 4G of ram you could
  run 2
         recons at the
         same time. What version of FS are you using? The newer
  ones use
         openmp,
         although only the dev version has a bunch of things that
  take
         advantage of
         it. If you want to use more than one core try using
  -openmmp 4
         (to use 4
         cores).
  
         cheers
         Bruce
  
  
         On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, pradeep mahato wrote:
  
          Hello,
         
          I need to extract Hippocampus from brain mri image.
  The
         recon-all process
          takes more than 30 hours to reconstruct from an single
  image.
         I am having an
          dataset of 200 subjects, it is not feasible to run the
  recon
         process for all
          individual brain mri images.
          Is there any method to possibly get the hippocampus
  segmented
         and get the
          statistical values faster and efficient way.
         
          Thanking You
         
          Pradeep Kumar Mahato
         
         
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Re: [Freesurfer] Extracting hippocampus

2014-12-10 Thread pradeep mahato
I am running the recon method for oasis
recon-all -autorecon1 -autorecon2 -i ./OAS2_0001_MR1/RAW/mpr-1.nifti.img -i
./OAS2_0001_MR1/RAW/mpr-2.nifti.img -i ./OAS2_0001_MR1/RAW/mpr-3.nifti.img
-s OAS12_1

The program exited saying ribbon.mgz file is missing. Thus I am unable to
get aseg.stats data.
Pls help

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wrote:

 the ribbon.mgz isn't part of autorecon2 (or autorecon1) I don't think.
 What are you trying to run?

 On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, pradeep mahato wrote:

  Hi Bruce,

 After running autorecon1 and autorecon2, I am getting an error saying
 ribbon.mgz file is missing.
 Is it that autorecon2 the 23rd function didn't execute.
 Attaching the recon log also.

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:
   Hi Pradeep

   sorry, I meant autorecon1 and autorecon2 (but not autorecon3)

   cheers
   Bruce
   On Tue, 9 Dec
   2014, pradeep mahato wrote:

Hi Bruce,
   
I am using Intel Core 2 Quad core processor 2.2 GHz with 4 GB
   ram.
The version i am using is
   freesurfer-i686-redhat-linux-gnu-stable5-20130513
Using autorecon2 process , I got error saying nu.mgz file is
   missing. Error
: mghRead(/home/nsb/oasis/OAS2_RAW_PART1/OAS1_2/mri/nu.mgz,
   -1): could not
open file
Should I include nuintensitycor.
   
Thanks
   
Pradeep
   
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Bruce Fischl
   fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
wrote:
  Hi Pradeep
   
  you could only run recon-all -autorecon2 instead of -all
   which
  should
  save you some time. 30 hours is pretty long though. What
  hardware are you
  using? If you have a modern Linux box with say 4-8 cores
   it
  should take
  less than 10. Or with 2 cores and 4G of ram you could
   run 2
  recons at the
  same time. What version of FS are you using? The newer
   ones use
  openmp,
  although only the dev version has a bunch of things that
   take
  advantage of
  it. If you want to use more than one core try using
   -openmmp 4
  (to use 4
  cores).
   
  cheers
  Bruce
   
   
  On Mon, 8 Dec 2014, pradeep mahato wrote:
   
   Hello,
  
   I need to extract Hippocampus from brain mri image.
   The
  recon-all process
   takes more than 30 hours to reconstruct from an single
   image.
  I am having an
   dataset of 200 subjects, it is not feasible to run the
   recon
  process for all
   individual brain mri images.
   Is there any method to possibly get the hippocampus
   segmented
  and get the
   statistical values faster and efficient way.
  
   Thanking You
  
   Pradeep Kumar Mahato
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] Getting voxel values from aseg.mgz

2014-12-10 Thread pradeep mahato
There is no documentation or example for mri_extract_label.
What should be the syntax for it. What kernel and xform file should be used.

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wrote:

 Hi Pradeep

 you can use mri_extract_label to copy just the hippocampal labels out of
 the segmentation if that is what you mean. The values for left and right
 hippocampus (17 and 53) can be found in
 $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

 cheers
 Bruce
 On
 Wed, 10 Dec 2014, pradeep mahato wrote:

  After the recon-all process I want to access all the voxels in the left
  hippocampus ( any subcortical region ) .
  Please tell me is there any method to extract this voxel values from an
  segmented image.
 
  Thanking you
 
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