Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
See https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/CoordinateSystems On 4/28/2021 5:18 PM, Fischl, Bruce wrote: Yes, there is some documentation of how to do this on our website. I defer to Doug on the particulars Bruce *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly *Sent:* Wednesday, April 28, 2021 4:30 PM *To:* Freesurfer support list *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis *External Email - Use Caution * Hi Bruce, Thanks a lot for this. What is the difference between RAS and surface RAS? Do I need to convert the surface RAS into RAS to be dealing in the volume space? Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 15:44, Fischl, Bruce <mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: All the surface vertices are just listed in order. The patch keep track of which vertex it corresponds to (so you can just use pial_surface[patch.vno] or something). The coordinates are documented on our website and are “surface ras”. Cheers Bruce *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:02 AM *To:* Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis *External Email - Use Caution * Hi Bruce, Yes I read in the patch the way that you're suggesting and I can access the vino for the flat map. But how do i know the vertex number of each vertex in the pial surface? Are they in order ? Also, what coordinate system is the pial surface in when its read into FreeSurfer? Is it RAS or surface RAS? Kind Regards, Ornaith On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 20:02, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: How do you read it in? If you are using the read_patch.m that we distribute it should be stored in patch.vno if you do: >> patch = read_patch(path_file_name) *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:29 PM *To:* Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis *External Email - Use Caution * Hi Bruce, Thanks so much for your quick reply, I really appreciate your help on this. I don't understand how to recover the vertex index. In Freeview I can see the vertex index number. When I load in the data to MATLAB as discussed - the only thing that I have access to are the coordinates of the vertices - not the vertex index. How can I recover the vertex indices as well? Thanks again. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 19:31, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: Hi Ornaith The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in the flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the location of that vertex on any other surface (of the same hemisphere/subject) Cheers Bruce *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM *To:* Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis *External Email - Use Caution * Hello FreeSurfer developers, Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. Thanks a lot for your help. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: *External Email - Use Caution * Hello Freesurfer developers, I am
Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
Yes, there is some documentation of how to do this on our website. I defer to Doug on the particulars Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 4:30 PM To: Freesurfer support list Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Thanks a lot for this. What is the difference between RAS and surface RAS? Do I need to convert the surface RAS into RAS to be dealing in the volume space? Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 15:44, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: All the surface vertices are just listed in order. The patch keep track of which vertex it corresponds to (so you can just use pial_surface[patch.vno] or something). The coordinates are documented on our website and are “surface ras”. Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:02 AM To: Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Yes I read in the patch the way that you're suggesting and I can access the vino for the flat map. But how do i know the vertex number of each vertex in the pial surface? Are they in order ? Also, what coordinate system is the pial surface in when its read into FreeSurfer? Is it RAS or surface RAS? Kind Regards, Ornaith On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 20:02, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: How do you read it in? If you are using the read_patch.m that we distribute it should be stored in patch.vno if you do: >> patch = read_patch(path_file_name) From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:29 PM To: Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Thanks so much for your quick reply, I really appreciate your help on this. I don't understand how to recover the vertex index. In Freeview I can see the vertex index number. When I load in the data to MATLAB as discussed - the only thing that I have access to are the coordinates of the vertices - not the vertex index. How can I recover the vertex indices as well? Thanks again. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 19:31, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: Hi Ornaith The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in the flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the location of that vertex on any other surface (of the same hemisphere/subject) Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM To: Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hello FreeSurfer developers, Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. Thanks a lot for your help. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer developers, I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines lhsphere = fs_read_surf('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D'); 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex
Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Thanks a lot for this. What is the difference between RAS and surface RAS? Do I need to convert the surface RAS into RAS to be dealing in the volume space? Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 15:44, Fischl, Bruce wrote: > All the surface vertices are just listed in order. The patch keep track of > which vertex it corresponds to (so you can just use pial_surface[patch.vno] > or something). > > > > The coordinates are documented on our website and are “surface ras”. > > > > Cheers > > Bruce > > > > *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu < > freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:02 AM > *To:* Freesurfer support list > *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis > > > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Yes I read in the patch the way that you're suggesting and I can access > the vino for the flat map. But how do i know the vertex number of each > vertex in the pial surface? Are they in order ? > > > > Also, what coordinate system is the pial surface in when its read into > FreeSurfer? Is it RAS or surface RAS? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Ornaith > > > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 20:02, Fischl, Bruce > wrote: > > How do you read it in? If you are using the read_patch.m that we > distribute it should be stored in patch.vno if you do: > > > > >> patch = read_patch(path_file_name) > > > > > > *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu < > freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:29 PM > *To:* Freesurfer support list > *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis > > > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Thanks so much for your quick reply, I really appreciate your help on > this. > > > > I don't understand how to recover the vertex index. > > > > In Freeview I can see the vertex index number. When I load in the data to > MATLAB as discussed - the only thing that I have access to are the > coordinates of the vertices - not the vertex index. How can I recover the > vertex indices as well? > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Ornaith > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 19:31, Fischl, Bruce > wrote: > > Hi Ornaith > > > > The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in > the flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the > location of that vertex on any other surface (of the same > hemisphere/subject) > > > > Cheers > > Bruce > > > > *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu < > freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM > *To:* Freesurfer support list > *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis > > > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hello FreeSurfer developers, > > > > Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you > suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function > (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between > the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface > corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. > > > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Ornaith > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve > wrote: > > > > On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hello Freesurfer developers, > > > > I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. > > > > My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying > on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. > > > > I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. > > > > I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the > lines > > lhsphere = fs_read_surf( > '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); > > lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch( > '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D' > ); > > > > 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on > the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this?
Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
All the surface vertices are just listed in order. The patch keep track of which vertex it corresponds to (so you can just use pial_surface[patch.vno] or something). The coordinates are documented on our website and are “surface ras”. Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:02 AM To: Freesurfer support list Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Yes I read in the patch the way that you're suggesting and I can access the vino for the flat map. But how do i know the vertex number of each vertex in the pial surface? Are they in order ? Also, what coordinate system is the pial surface in when its read into FreeSurfer? Is it RAS or surface RAS? Kind Regards, Ornaith On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 20:02, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: How do you read it in? If you are using the read_patch.m that we distribute it should be stored in patch.vno if you do: >> patch = read_patch(path_file_name) From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:29 PM To: Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Thanks so much for your quick reply, I really appreciate your help on this. I don't understand how to recover the vertex index. In Freeview I can see the vertex index number. When I load in the data to MATLAB as discussed - the only thing that I have access to are the coordinates of the vertices - not the vertex index. How can I recover the vertex indices as well? Thanks again. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 19:31, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: Hi Ornaith The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in the flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the location of that vertex on any other surface (of the same hemisphere/subject) Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM To: Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hello FreeSurfer developers, Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. Thanks a lot for your help. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer developers, I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines lhsphere = fs_read_surf('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D'); 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and the vertex faces. The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into an mgz file using mri_surf2surf, eg mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz --s yoursubject You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz'); 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface images through Matlab? What would be the best way to show the surface with the electrons overlaid on it? I know there are ways, but I don't know their details The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined below: 1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551 2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Yes I read in the patch the way that you're suggesting and I can access the vino for the flat map. But how do i know the vertex number of each vertex in the pial surface? Are they in order ? Also, what coordinate system is the pial surface in when its read into FreeSurfer? Is it RAS or surface RAS? Kind Regards, Ornaith On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 20:02, Fischl, Bruce wrote: > How do you read it in? If you are using the read_patch.m that we > distribute it should be stored in patch.vno if you do: > > > > >> patch = read_patch(path_file_name) > > > > > > *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu < > freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:29 PM > *To:* Freesurfer support list > *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis > > > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Thanks so much for your quick reply, I really appreciate your help on > this. > > > > I don't understand how to recover the vertex index. > > > > In Freeview I can see the vertex index number. When I load in the data to > MATLAB as discussed - the only thing that I have access to are the > coordinates of the vertices - not the vertex index. How can I recover the > vertex indices as well? > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Ornaith > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 19:31, Fischl, Bruce > wrote: > > Hi Ornaith > > > > The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in > the flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the > location of that vertex on any other surface (of the same > hemisphere/subject) > > > > Cheers > > Bruce > > > > *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu < > freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> *On Behalf Of *Ornaith O Reilly > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM > *To:* Freesurfer support list > *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis > > > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hello FreeSurfer developers, > > > > Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you > suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function > (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between > the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface > corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. > > > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Ornaith > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve > wrote: > > > > On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: > > *External Email - Use Caution* > > Hello Freesurfer developers, > > > > I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. > > > > My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying > on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. > > > > I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. > > > > I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the > lines > > lhsphere = fs_read_surf( > '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); > > lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch( > '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D' > ); > > > > 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on > the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that > the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image > to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? > At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and > the vertex faces. > > The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into > an mgz file using mri_surf2surf, eg > mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz --s > yoursubject > You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading > whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz'); > > > > 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface > images through Matlab? What would be the best way to show the surface with > the electrons overlaid on it? > > I know there are ways, but I don't know their details > > > > The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using i
Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
How do you read it in? If you are using the read_patch.m that we distribute it should be stored in patch.vno if you do: >> patch = read_patch(path_file_name) From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:29 PM To: Freesurfer support list Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce, Thanks so much for your quick reply, I really appreciate your help on this. I don't understand how to recover the vertex index. In Freeview I can see the vertex index number. When I load in the data to MATLAB as discussed - the only thing that I have access to are the coordinates of the vertices - not the vertex index. How can I recover the vertex indices as well? Thanks again. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 19:31, Fischl, Bruce mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: Hi Ornaith The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in the flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the location of that vertex on any other surface (of the same hemisphere/subject) Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM To: Freesurfer support list mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hello FreeSurfer developers, Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. Thanks a lot for your help. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer developers, I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines lhsphere = fs_read_surf('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D'); 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and the vertex faces. The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into an mgz file using mri_surf2surf, eg mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz --s yoursubject You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz'); 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface images through Matlab? What would be the best way to show the surface with the electrons overlaid on it? I know there are ways, but I don't know their details The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined below: 1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551 2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024) I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck. Thanks in advance for any help. Kind Regards, Ornaith O'Reilly ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to be https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ogp5ZeoS72_H9fgRPteNOma_J9hPaTfdzd6HC3IGubCY3vT-6900ngXdEssiUKOEN83iJbaRuxNMiShdLlOKXEsjibjQ3746iu4iSesiMAO7FM0u9JNkAiZ3RbN0TT8aAzo0QUe3wE1wLOfCaW_LV58ZUFvu4Jp8VcRYtLlFq2jaZ4IhvfVwk9EAHZ2f2uNFvgXVQwrjI8lddgCE_MHRU2_3rGmlnYXAhqWlm22ouXXjaE7nx7oKhyinkx8WQ1Qz1t7wnWmQku8NFdH3eu0s6Q/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer> ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com"
Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
Hi Ornaith The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in the flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the location of that vertex on any other surface (of the same hemisphere/subject) Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM To: Freesurfer support list Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis External Email - Use Caution Hello FreeSurfer developers, Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. Thanks a lot for your help. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer developers, I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines lhsphere = fs_read_surf('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D'); 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and the vertex faces. The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into an mgz file using mri_surf2surf, eg mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz --s yoursubject You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz'); 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface images through Matlab? What would be the best way to show the surface with the electrons overlaid on it? I know there are ways, but I don't know their details The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined below: 1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551 2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024) I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck. Thanks in advance for any help. Kind Regards, Ornaith O'Reilly ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to be https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ogp5ZeoS72_H9fgRPteNOma_J9hPaTfdzd6HC3IGubCY3vT-6900ngXdEssiUKOEN83iJbaRuxNMiShdLlOKXEsjibjQ3746iu4iSesiMAO7FM0u9JNkAiZ3RbN0TT8aAzo0QUe3wE1wLOfCaW_LV58ZUFvu4Jp8VcRYtLlFq2jaZ4IhvfVwk9EAHZ2f2uNFvgXVQwrjI8lddgCE_MHRU2_3rGmlnYXAhqWlm22ouXXjaE7nx7oKhyinkx8WQ1Qz1t7wnWmQku8NFdH3eu0s6Q/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer> ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to be https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ogp5ZeoS72_H9fgRPteNOma_J9hPaTfdzd6HC3IGubCY3vT-6900ngXdEssiUKOEN83iJbaRuxNMiShdLlOKXEsjibjQ3746iu4iSesiMAO7FM0u9JNkAiZ3RbN0TT8aAzo0QUe3wE1wLOfCaW_LV58ZUFvu4Jp8VcRYtLlFq2jaZ4IhvfVwk9EAHZ2f2uNFvgXVQwrjI8lddgCE_MHRU2_3rGmlnYXAhqWlm22ouXXjaE7nx7oKhyinkx8WQ1Qz1t7wnWmQku8NFdH3eu0s6Q/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer> ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
External Email - Use Caution Hello FreeSurfer developers, Thanks a lot for your help. I have initialised the pialxyz the way you suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function (screenshots attached). I still don't understand how to convert between the two. For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds to what (x,y) point on the flatmap. Thanks a lot for your help. Kind Regards, Ornaith On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve wrote: > > > On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: > > External Email - Use Caution > Hello Freesurfer developers, > > I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. > > My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying > on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. > > I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. > > I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the > lines > > lhsphere = fs_read_surf( > '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); > lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch( > '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D' > ); > > 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on > the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that > the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image > to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? > At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and > the vertex faces. > > The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into > an mgz file using mri_surf2surf, eg > mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz --s > yoursubject > You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading > whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz'); > > > 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface > images through Matlab? What would be the best way to show the surface with > the electrons overlaid on it? > > I know there are ways, but I don't know their details > > > The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined > below: > 1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551 > 2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024) > > I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Kind Regards, > Ornaith O'Reilly > > ___ > Freesurfer mailing > listfreesur...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer > > > ___ > Freesurfer mailing list > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ogp5ZeoS72_H9fgRPteNOma_J9hPaTfdzd6HC3IGubCY3vT-6900ngXdEssiUKOEN83iJbaRuxNMiShdLlOKXEsjibjQ3746iu4iSesiMAO7FM0u9JNkAiZ3RbN0TT8aAzo0QUe3wE1wLOfCaW_LV58ZUFvu4Jp8VcRYtLlFq2jaZ4IhvfVwk9EAHZ2f2uNFvgXVQwrjI8lddgCE_MHRU2_3rGmlnYXAhqWlm22ouXXjaE7nx7oKhyinkx8WQ1Qz1t7wnWmQku8NFdH3eu0s6Q/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
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On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote: External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer developers, I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines lhsphere = fs_read_surf('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D'); 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and the vertex faces. The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into an mgz file using mri_surf2surf, eg mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz --s yoursubject You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz'); 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface images through Matlab? What would be the best way to show the surface with the electrons overlaid on it? I know there are ways, but I don't know their details The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined below: 1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551 2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024) I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck. Thanks in advance for any help. Kind Regards, Ornaith O'Reilly ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
[Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis
External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer developers, I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me. My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map. I've run recon-all and created the flatmap. I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines lhsphere = fs_read_surf( '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere'); lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch( '/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D' ); 1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this? I understand that the vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these surfaces. I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ? At the moment I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and the vertex faces. 2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface images through Matlab? What would be the best way to show the surface with the electrons overlaid on it? The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined below: 1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551 2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024) I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck. Thanks in advance for any help. Kind Regards, Ornaith O'Reilly ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer