Re: [Freesurfer] Optseq2 help needed

2020-02-24 Thread Douglas N. Greve
By default, optseq2 assumes that you want to perform an FIR analysis 
where you get an average for each post-stimulus time point so that you 
can create a waveform. This is in contrast to assuming the shape to the 
hemodyn respnse where you only estimate a single value (the amplitude). 
By default, the time between FIR waveform points is the TR, but you can 
perform sub-TR estimation by setting the dPSD to less than the TR. The 
problem is that every estimate you make reduces the efficienecy. So, 
assuming a shape is more efficient than an FIR because it only has one 
estimate. An FIR with dPDS=TR is more efficient than dPSD=TR/2 because 
there are half as many estimates. Probably when you go to analyze the 
data you will use an assumed shape, and then you will get the efficiency 
back.


On 2/21/2020 9:43 AM, Gergely Darnai wrote:


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Dear Developers,

I am planning to run PVT (psychomotor vigilance task) in fMRI using 
event related design. This is an extremely simple reaction time task: 
participant has to respond to the appeared geometric shape as quickly 
as possible. The key feature of this paradigm is that we will have 
fluctuating and quite rapid event presentation times (ranging between 
300 and 500 msec). Another important information is that we will use 
FSL FEAT for the evaluation. We decided to use opseq2 to optimize the 
design with the following parameters:


optseq2 --ntp 150 --tr 2 --psdwin 0 20 --ev evt1 1 45 --nkeep 3 --o 
exp --nsearch 1 --tnullmin 3 --tnullmax 11 --repvar 10


Although with this design I get quite satisfying efficiency and VRF 
scores I do not understand that if I decrease dPSD why does it have 
significant negative effect on efficiency and VRF. Could you explain 
this? If I understand well, this is the only option to shift the onset 
of the event from the scanning points, and I would assume that if 
there is fluctuation in time between scanning points and stimuli 
presentation, it would help to "catch" the hemodynamic response easier 
(if the stimulus onset always goes together with the scans, we can 
always catch the same timepoints of the HRF). Did I misunderstand 
something? If I use FSL that is based on HRF estimation (and not on 
FIR), do these parameters (dPSD) and scores (efficiency & VRF) have 
meaning and function at all? My last question is related to event 
duration. Although I have fluctuating and short events, as you can see 
I chose 1 sec (because it has to be the integer multiple of the dPSD). 
Is it problematic?


Thank you for your suggestions,

Gergely

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Department of Behavioural Sciences
Medical School, University of Pécs
Phone: +36/72/536-256
Fax: +36/72/536-257
H-7624 Szigeti u. 12, Pécs, Hungary

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[Freesurfer] Optseq2 help needed

2020-02-21 Thread Gergely Darnai
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Dear Developers,

I am planning to run PVT (psychomotor vigilance task) in fMRI using event
related design. This is an extremely simple reaction time task: participant
has to respond to the appeared geometric shape as quickly as possible. The
key feature of this paradigm is that we will have fluctuating and quite
rapid event presentation times (ranging between 300 and 500 msec). Another
important information is that we will use FSL FEAT for the evaluation. We
decided to use opseq2 to optimize the design with the following parameters:

optseq2 --ntp 150 --tr 2 --psdwin 0 20 --ev evt1 1 45 --nkeep 3 --o exp
--nsearch 1 --tnullmin 3 --tnullmax 11 --repvar 10

Although with this design I get quite satisfying efficiency and VRF scores
I do not understand that if I decrease dPSD why does it have significant
negative effect on efficiency and VRF. Could you explain this? If I
understand well, this is the only option to shift the onset of the event
from the scanning points, and I would assume that if there is fluctuation
in time between scanning points and stimuli presentation, it would help to
"catch" the hemodynamic response easier (if the stimulus onset always goes
together with the scans, we can always catch the same timepoints of the
HRF). Did I misunderstand something? If I use FSL that is based on HRF
estimation (and not on FIR), do these parameters (dPSD) and scores
(efficiency & VRF) have meaning and function at all? My last question is
related to event duration. Although I have fluctuating and short events, as
you can see I chose 1 sec (because it has to be the integer multiple of the
dPSD). Is it problematic?

Thank you for your suggestions,

Gergely

-
Gergely Darnai PhD
Department of Behavioural Sciences
Medical School, University of Pécs
Phone: +36/72/536-256
Fax: +36/72/536-257
H-7624 Szigeti u. 12, Pécs, Hungary
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