[Freesurfer] glmfit error on v5.1

2013-12-02 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
Dear Freesurfer experts,Sorry for the inconvenience but I posted  this message last week, but I did not receive any answer. I really need to keep  going on with my analyses.I have runned the following command line:mri_glmfit   --surf PLI_MCI_sample7_avg lh --C  /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/contrast_withinE4_neg.mat   --fsgd  /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_fsgd.txt   dods --label  /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/label/lh.cortex.label   --y  /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/lh.thickness_s12mm.mgh   --no-prune --glmdir  /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/resultsthickness_cortex_s12mm_BiomrkrsWithin/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_contrast_withinE4_neg/which is always prompts the following error:ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno = 1.75146e+07Possible problem with experimental designI'm sending attached the fsgd.txt and contras.mat files used in case you need themDoes anyone knows what's wrong with my design?Many thanks in advanced,Gabriel.


contrast_withinE4_neg.mat
Description: Binary data
GroupDescriptorFile 1
Title PVEc-PET_with_MRI in sig_clusters of MC_3000
Class E4female
Class E4male
Class noE4female
Class noE4male
variables zAge zAPOB zlh.cortex_AVGthickness 
Input mci_01_year1 noE4male -0.025380 -0.495746 -0.569553 
Input mci_02_year1 noE4male 0.416237 -0.163064 -1.388804 
Input mci_04_year1 noE4female -0.466997 -1.018533 1.324541 
Input mci_10_year1 noE4male -0.319792 -1.351215 0.286936 
Input mci_11_year1 noE4female 0.563442 -0.400694 -0.384206 
Input mci_14_year1 noE4male -0.466997 -0.281879 0.611082 
Input mci_15_year1 noE4female 1.152265 -0.567035 0.446893 
Input mci_16_year1 noE4male 0.857854 0.549827 -1.563149 
Input mci_20_year1 noE4male -0.614203 -1.066059 -0.254717 
Input mci_23_year1 noE4male 1.299471 -0.780902 -0.043134 
Input mci_25_year1 noE4male -0.761409 -0.899718 0.469744 
Input mci_33_year1 noE4male -0.908614 0.858747 0.584846 
Input mci_36_year1 noE4male -0.025380 2.260766 -0.997798 
Input mci_38_year1 noE4male -2.822288 2.759790 1.354163 
Input mci_39_year1 noE4male -1.350231 2.569685 0.621238 
Input mci_06_year1 E4female -0.172586 -0.234353 -0.633028 
Input mci_07_year1 E4male -1.350231 -0.139301 -0.126075 
Input mci_08_year1 E4female -0.025380 0.383486 -1.171297 
Input mci_09_year1 E4female 0.857854 -0.234353 -0.370665 
Input mci_13_year1 E4male 0.121825 -0.495746 0.904760 
Input mci_17_year1 E4male -0.466997 -0.044248 -0.776059 
Input mci_18_year1 E4female 1.005059 -0.163064 -0.820915 
Input mci_19_year1 E4male 1.152265 0.074567 -2.081952 
Input mci_21_year1 E4female 0.121825 -0.091774 1.423562 
Input mci_27_year1 E4female -1.350231 -0.543272 2.172568 
Input mci_29_year1 E4male 1.888294 0.240908 0.683020 
Input mci_35_year1 E4male 0.710648 -0.567035 1.014783 
Input mci_41_year1 E4female 0.269031 0.169619 -0.510310 
Input mci_42_year1 E4male 0.710648 -0.329405 -0.206476 
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Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit error on v5.1

2013-12-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
Can you send the matrix that it creates?

On 12/02/2013 06:09 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 Sorry for the inconvenience but I posted this message last week, but I 
 did not receive any answer. I really need to keep going on with my 
 analyses.


 I have runned the following command line:
 mri_glmfit --surf PLI_MCI_sample7_avg lh --C 
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/contrast_withinE4_neg.mat
  
 --fsgd 
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_fsgd.txt
  
 dods --label 
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/label/lh.cortex.label 
 --y 
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/lh.thickness_s12mm.mgh
  
 --no-prune --glmdir 
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/resultsthickness_cortex_s12mm_BiomrkrsWithin/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_contrast_withinE4_neg/
  


 which is always prompts the following error:

 
 ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno = 1.75146e+07
 
 Possible problem with experimental design


 I'm sending attached the fsgd.txt and contras.mat files used in case 
 you need them


 Does anyone knows what's wrong with my design?


 Many thanks in advanced,
 Gabriel.


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Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit error on v5.1

2013-12-02 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
There you are!Hope it helps- Mensaje original -De: Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduFecha: Lunes, 2 de Diciembre de 2013, 5:09 pmAsunto: Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit error on v5.1A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Can you send the matrix that it creates?  On 12/02/2013 06:09 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:  Dear Freesurfer experts,   Sorry for the inconvenience but I posted this message last  week, but I   did not receive any answer. I really need to keep going on  with my   analyses.I have runned the following command line:  mri_glmfit --surf PLI_MCI_sample7_avg lh --C/root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/contrast_withinE4_neg.mat   --fsgd/root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_fsgd.txt   dods --label/root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/label/lh.cortex.label   --y/root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/lh.thickness_s12mm.mgh   --no-prune --glmdir/root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/resultsthickness_cortex_s12mm_BiomrkrsWithin/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_contrast_withinE4_neg/ which is always prompts the following error:     ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno =  1.75146e+07   Possible problem with experimental designI'm sending attached the fsgd.txt and contras.mat files used  in case   you need themDoes anyone knows what's wrong with my design?Many thanks in advanced,  Gabriel.___  Freesurfer mailing list  Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer  --  Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D. MGH-NMR Center gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Phone Number: 617-724-2358 Fax: 617-726-7422  Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting FileDrop: https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2 www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html Outgoing:  ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/ ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer   The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person  to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error  and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners  Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent  to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the  sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. font size="3"--br /PhD. student Gabriel González-Escamillabr /Laboratory of Functional Neurosciencebr /Department of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell Biologybr /University Pablo de Olavidebr /Ctra. de Utrera, Km.1br /41013 - Sevillebr /- Spain -br /br /Email: ggon...@upo.esbr /http://www.upo.es/neuroaging/es//font


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Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit error on v5.1

2013-12-02 Thread Douglas N Greve

The problem is in the noE4female group. You only have 3 subjects and the 
zAPOB and thickness are nearly equal and opposite in sign. The 
correlation between these two regressors exceeds .96. This is probably 
spurious, but it is killing the design matrix.
doug


On 12/02/2013 11:44 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
 There you are!

 Hope it helps

 - Mensaje original -
 De: Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Fecha: Lunes, 2 de Diciembre de 2013, 5:09 pm
 Asunto: Re: [Freesurfer] glmfit error on v5.1
 A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

  Can you send the matrix that it creates?
 
  On 12/02/2013 06:09 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
   Dear Freesurfer experts,
  
   Sorry for the inconvenience but I posted this message last
  week, but I
   did not receive any answer. I really need to keep going on
  with my
   analyses.
  
  
   I have runned the following command line:
   mri_glmfit --surf PLI_MCI_sample7_avg lh --C
  
  
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/contrast_withinE4_neg.mat
  

   --fsgd
  
  
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/glm_files/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_fsgd.txt
  

   dods --label
  
  
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/label/lh.cortex.label 

   --y
  
  
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/lh.thickness_s12mm.mgh
  

   --no-prune --glmdir
  
  
 /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/PLI_MCI_sample7_avg/stats_MRI_PET_Biomarkers/resultsthickness_cortex_s12mm_BiomrkrsWithin/lh.cortex_AVGthickness_APOB_contrast_withinE4_neg/
  

  
  
   which is always prompts the following error:
  
   
   ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno =
  1.75146e+07 
   Possible problem with experimental design
  
  
   I'm sending attached the fsgd.txt and contras.mat files used
  in case
   you need them
  
  
   Does anyone knows what's wrong with my design?
  
  
   Many thanks in advanced,
   Gabriel.
  
  
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 font size=3--br /PhD. student Gabriel 
 González-Escamillabr /Laboratory of Functional Neurosciencebr 
 /Department of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell Biologybr /University 
 Pablo de Olavidebr /Ctra. de Utrera, Km.1br /41013 - Sevillebr 
 /- Spain -br /br /Email: ggon...@upo.esbr 
 /http://www.upo.es/neuroaging/es//font

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