Re: [Freesurfer] group by age-squared interaction on thickness

2016-09-15 Thread Douglas N Greve
I don't think you are modeling gender and scanner appropriately. It 
looks like you have them as continuous covariates? The right way is to 
create classes. In your case, you'd have 8 classes, Group1MaleScanner1, 
Group1FemaleScanner2, etc.


On 09/15/2016 10:48 AM, Eryilmaz, H. Hamdi wrote:
> Dear Doug/FreeSurfers,
>
> We are looking at effects of age-squared on cortical thickness in two 
> different groups.  We are interested in age-squared by group 
> interactions on cortical thickness across the surface.  Nuisance 
> covariates include age, sex, scanner, and total brain volume.
>
> The sig map for the interaction shows numerous highly significant 
> regions. When we extract cortical thickness from individual subjects 
> for these regions, and then plot the relationship between age-squared 
> and cortical thickness (after adjusting for the covariates) in group 1 
> versus group 2, the interaction is very clear.
>
> However, using linear regression in SPSS, we are not able to reproduce 
> these results.  I suspect we are not using the same model in SPSS that 
> FreeSurfer is using to do the interaction analysis.
>
> This is how our fsgd file looks like:
>
> GroupDescriptorFile 1
> Title GroupAgesqInteraction
> Class Group1
> Class Group2
> Variables Agesq Age Gender Scanner TBV
>
> Input3662291Group10.6070.654 -1.0611.0410.706
> Input3665043Group11.2941.237 -1.0611.041-0.747
> .
> .
>
> This is the contrast we used:
>
> [0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0]
>
> What would be the translation of this contrast to a linear model, 
> where we are interested in the age -squared by group interaction on 
> cortical thickness after controlling for the four nuisance covariates?
>
> Thanks very much!
>
> Hamdi and Josh
>
>
>
>
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[Freesurfer] group by age-squared interaction on thickness

2016-09-15 Thread Eryilmaz, H. Hamdi
Dear Doug/FreeSurfers,

We are looking at effects of age-squared on cortical thickness in two different 
groups.  We are interested in age-squared by group interactions on cortical 
thickness across the surface.  Nuisance covariates include age, sex, scanner, 
and total brain volume.

The sig map for the interaction shows numerous highly significant regions. When 
we extract cortical thickness from individual subjects for these regions, and 
then plot the relationship between age-squared and cortical thickness (after 
adjusting for the covariates) in group 1 versus group 2, the interaction is 
very clear.

However, using linear regression in SPSS, we are not able to reproduce these 
results.  I suspect we are not using the same model in SPSS that FreeSurfer is 
using to do the interaction analysis.

This is how our fsgd file looks like:

GroupDescriptorFile 1
Title GroupAgesqInteraction
Class Group1
Class Group2
Variables Agesq Age Gender Scanner TBV

Input3662291Group10.6070.654-1.0611.0410.706
Input3665043Group11.2941.237-1.0611.041-0.747
.
.

This is the contrast we used:

[0 0 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0]

What would be the translation of this contrast to a linear model, where we are 
interested in the age -squared by group interaction on cortical thickness after 
controlling for the four nuisance covariates?

Thanks very much!

Hamdi and Josh


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